HOLY SHIT! I was just thinking about MASK the other day...couldn't remember the name of the show, but I do remember those toys were really shoddily made...would break in your hands...
Gee, if the licensing structure is in place to prevent people from "hiding virii", why hasn't it affected.JPG,.PNG,.HTML,.GODIHOPEYOUARETROLLINGBECAUSEYOUAREMAKINGNOSENSE, etc...
Seriously, though, the issue here is that UniSys bought this patent for the express purpose of making money off it, period. And now, with only three years left in this potential money-maker, they're trying to collect. That is their position: they want to make as much money off their investment as possible. Trying to paint some lame benevolent picture doesn't hide that fact.
"the original development of Windows was a joint collaboration before 'differences' made IBM pull out and start there own project (OS/2). "
Actually, IBM and MS were working on OS/2 and MS left after their falling out, taking their part of the code base with them to develop Windows. They basically used IBM, waited around until they had enough to go to market with, and split. If you read the forward in the manual (or maybe it was the box) of Windows v.1.0, it will say something to effect of "prepares you for the awesome power of OS/2!"
From what I remember (I've read several articles on the saga), OS/2 was just taking too damn long for MS. The extra time put in is evident: low overhead, clean, quick...if only people would support it. IBM, open-source it...please...
That said, it's time you got yourself a new sig. Thank you.
Just so you know, your sig is a waste of space. Telling people in your sig (or at least the last line of every message) the exact same thing in the exact same way everytime will belittle people's feeling and make them feel like you aren't giving them enough personal attention. How do we know that you aren't a person, but actually a bot configured to attack and respond to specific sigs? Besides, the repitition might lead people to believe that you're a (sakes-alive!) troll.
That said, it's time you got yourself a new sig. Thank you.
Absolutely, and it came with an actual copy of Fodor's guide to the world...not on CD-ROM or disk, but the actualy book. Yeah, I remember spending may a night trying to beat the bitch Carmen at her on game...I need to find that game again and play it in an Apple II emu...yes Carmen, I will finally have my revenege...MUUUWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
Absolutely! I keep telling my friends that ID4 is one of the biggest hollywood blunders ever to be snuck past the audience. The whole movie is wrought with trite crap like that. A virus written on a terestrial system and propogated through numerous unknown systems on the first try, indeed. What a piece of work...forget that. Man, I cheered the aliens on the entire movie...those characters were too stupid to live...
I agree completely. You do need to see both sides of the story for it to make sense, otherwise you're left with your initial assumption that Rob is a whiner.
Besides, walking out on movies is lame. Really, what the hell else is going in your life that's so importnant that you can't wait out the last hour of a flick that you spent $8 on? I mean, that's like leaving a concert because the opening band sucked. Have a little patience, pal. I saw High Fidelity last night; my theater was packed, no one left (not even to use the bathroom), and everyone seemed to leave very satisfied at the end. Sucks that you didn't let yourself see a good movie all the way through.
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I think what he's trying to say is that, by being so popular and oft forwarded, it acted as a virus in the sense that it ate bandwidth and cluttered servers with unnecessary data...
Okay, rock scared people in the fifties and many radio stations wouldn't play it...until it was commercially viable. Same with Jazz/Blues in early part of the twentieth century. Actually, you could also say the same about New Wave, Techno, Punk, Ska, Heavy Metal, Swing, Latin...just about every popular music form today went through a period where it was supported by a grass-roots movement until it became big enough for record companies to take interest in it.
Personal computing itself went through this in the mid-seventies (when computers were sold in kits and you sodered the damn things together). And many of today's popular operating system went through this as well (for example, I can remember a time when most companies looked upon Windows as a niche market and few wrote programs for it, prefering DOS instead...now, you're hard-pressed to find a anything in both DOS and Windows, including games).
I read the article and I'm still wondering what makes hip-hop and Linux especially unique in terms of comparisons...from my point of view, you could write this article about any type of music and OS...
From the alt.2600 FAQ (read carefully, gourmetbog...):
F-02. What does "2600" mean?
2600Hz was a tone that was used by early phone phreaks (or phreakers) in the 80's, and some currently. If the tone was sent down the line at the proper time, one could get away with all sorts of fun stuff.
A note from Emmanuel Goldstein:
"The Atari 2600 has NOTHING to do with blue boxes or telephones or the 2600 hertz tone. The 2600 hertz tone was simply the first step towards exploring the network. If you were successful at getting a toll call to drop, then billing would stop at that point but there would be billing for the number already dialed up until the point of seizure. 800 numbers and long distance information were both free in the past and records of who called what were either non-existent or very obscure with regards to these numbers. This, naturally, made them more popular than numbers that showed up on a bill, even if it was only for a minute. Today, many 800 numbers go overseas, which provides a quick and free way into another country's phone system which may be more open for exploration."
Intel and AMD have been racing towards having the first chip out on copper...at last count, it looks like AMD is going to beat them to it. Is that what you're thinking of?
If their using Slash, which I suspect they are...they haven't indicated that they are on the page...in fact, they haven't indicated what the hell they're using period...odd...
Microsoft really doesnt know what its up against..
I hate Microsoft as much as the next mindless idiot here, but people have said the same thing when they went up against Wordperfect, Lotus 1-2-3, Netscape Navigator, Logitech Mice, Sun's Java, any number of server markets (not that they win all or even some of them, but the fact that they make a significant showing in new markets is something), Apple and IBM back in the 80's... The only people I've seen to put them in there place, besides AOL, is the DOJ...
Another thing needed, besides a support system, is just plain end user exposure to Linux. Users need to be taught the equivilent procedures to their daily activities that they do on other OSes...Linux is labeled as harder to learn alone because much of the nomenclature and procedures on it are foreign to newcomers whose only other experience is Windows (or even MacOS). Not to start a holy war, but what we need here is a) Linux in the education system (and not as geek toys, but as actual workstations for daily activites like word processing and email) and b) Linux preshipped on PCs. When that starts happening, Linux will be getting the exposure it needs to build a user base in the mainstream.
I went out on a search to find a left-handed mouse as soon as I read your plee, but could not find one. Strange, I know Logitech used to make one (and a good one, from what my left-handed users used to tell me). I did find plenty of unilateral mice, though, which should at least meet users half-way.
Even if I was left-handed, this wouldn't be much of an issure for me. I personal don't like the Intellimouse, or the Natural keyboard, or most any other MS Hardware...its a little overpriced in my opinion. Now the old IBM tactile keyboard...
With AMD hitting at its low end range of processors, and Crusoe bound to fight for its higher end range, Intel has to do much more than it is doing now to stay in contention in the chip market.
They should advertise it for its easy setup and ability to get online easily, not the color
Oh my god, they have. Don't you remember the plethora of ads that came out a year and a half ago for those things, with a PC at one table and an IMac at the other, timing to see who could get online faster? How about the home movie editting ads they have out currently? The color ad (showing something that sets an iMac apart from other computers) was only one of the many ads for the iMac. It was meant to be amusing, especially for someone who wasn't into hardcore computer use.
Hey Rob, how much is your kickback? An ad, really...calm down, niekze, its not that big of a deal...its an amusing little blurb on a stupid little website...you're obviously smart enough to construct an argument, so why don't you couple that with commen sense and ignore articles that you find so blatantly "commercial".
Self-righteous twit...take your self-important katz-esque preaching and go somewhere else...
I'm going to invite flame here, but I think OS/2 is still a viable OS. It doesn't have the support base of Windows or the serving muscle of the *n*xes, but it does make a pretty stable frontend with a number of development opportunities. It's still used in many banks and a has a small but fiercely loyal consumer following. I think IBM will take the time to build in support for Win9x apps...it would greatly increase their app base and extend OS/2's viablity as an OS.
I guess I wasn't that clear...I've been up for close to 40 hours now. I meant it would be an incredible assest to use Windows code as a reference...WINE is an emulation (duh...I'm tired), and has different needs than a native OS. I'm just hoping that if the developers of WINE can get their hands on the code, it will take some of the guess work out of how to structure WINE, making it more efficient and less crash-prone. Cutting and pasting the MS code, I agree, would be an incredibly dumb idea...I don't think they'd even attempt that.
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HOLY SHIT! I was just thinking about MASK the other day...couldn't remember the name of the show, but I do remember those toys were really shoddily made...would break in your hands...
Gee, if the licensing structure is in place to prevent people from "hiding virii", why hasn't it affected .JPG, .PNG, .HTML, .GODIHOPEYOUARETROLLINGBECAUSEYOUAREMAKINGNOSENSE, etc...
Seriously, though, the issue here is that UniSys bought this patent for the express purpose of making money off it, period. And now, with only three years left in this potential money-maker, they're trying to collect. That is their position: they want to make as much money off their investment as possible. Trying to paint some lame benevolent picture doesn't hide that fact.
"the original development of Windows was a joint collaboration before 'differences' made IBM pull out and start there own project (OS/2). "
Actually, IBM and MS were working on OS/2 and MS left after their falling out, taking their part of the code base with them to develop Windows. They basically used IBM, waited around until they had enough to go to market with, and split. If you read the forward in the manual (or maybe it was the box) of Windows v.1.0, it will say something to effect of "prepares you for the awesome power of OS/2!"
From what I remember (I've read several articles on the saga), OS/2 was just taking too damn long for MS. The extra time put in is evident: low overhead, clean, quick...if only people would support it. IBM, open-source it...please...
That said, it's time you got yourself a new sig. Thank you.
Just so you know, your sig is a waste of space. Telling people in your sig (or at least the last line of every message) the exact same thing in the exact same way everytime will belittle people's feeling and make them feel like you aren't giving them enough personal attention. How do we know that you aren't a person, but actually a bot configured to attack and respond to specific sigs? Besides, the repitition might lead people to believe that you're a (sakes-alive!) troll.
That said, it's time you got yourself a new sig. Thank you.
Absolutely, and it came with an actual copy of Fodor's guide to the world...not on CD-ROM or disk, but the actualy book. Yeah, I remember spending may a night trying to beat the bitch Carmen at her on game...I need to find that game again and play it in an Apple II emu...yes Carmen, I will finally have my revenege...MUUUWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
erm...yes, anyway, it was a cool game...
...but my AP English teacher was a Sadochist. After writing essays about a text you could barely read, the AP test itself was a breeze...
Absolutely! I keep telling my friends that ID4 is one of the biggest hollywood blunders ever to be snuck past the audience. The whole movie is wrought with trite crap like that. A virus written on a terestrial system and propogated through numerous unknown systems on the first try, indeed. What a piece of work...forget that. Man, I cheered the aliens on the entire movie...those characters were too stupid to live...
Heh...that just made me laugh for the first time today...
Have any of you ever read the book "Beowulf"? In the original Old English? It's not as exciting as you think, really...
I agree completely. You do need to see both sides of the story for it to make sense, otherwise you're left with your initial assumption that Rob is a whiner.
Besides, walking out on movies is lame. Really, what the hell else is going in your life that's so importnant that you can't wait out the last hour of a flick that you spent $8 on? I mean, that's like leaving a concert because the opening band sucked. Have a little patience, pal. I saw High Fidelity last night; my theater was packed, no one left (not even to use the bathroom), and everyone seemed to leave very satisfied at the end. Sucks that you didn't let yourself see a good movie all the way through.
I think what he's trying to say is that, by being so popular and oft forwarded, it acted as a virus in the sense that it ate bandwidth and cluttered servers with unnecessary data...
Okay, rock scared people in the fifties and many radio stations wouldn't play it...until it was commercially viable. Same with Jazz/Blues in early part of the twentieth century. Actually, you could also say the same about New Wave, Techno, Punk, Ska, Heavy Metal, Swing, Latin...just about every popular music form today went through a period where it was supported by a grass-roots movement until it became big enough for record companies to take interest in it.
Personal computing itself went through this in the mid-seventies (when computers were sold in kits and you sodered the damn things together). And many of today's popular operating system went through this as well (for example, I can remember a time when most companies looked upon Windows as a niche market and few wrote programs for it, prefering DOS instead...now, you're hard-pressed to find a anything in both DOS and Windows, including games).
I read the article and I'm still wondering what makes hip-hop and Linux especially unique in terms of comparisons...from my point of view, you could write this article about any type of music and OS...
From the alt.2600 FAQ (read carefully, gourmetbog...):
F-02. What does "2600" mean?
2600Hz was a tone that was used by early phone phreaks (or
phreakers) in the 80's, and some currently. If the tone was sent down
the line at the proper time, one could get away with all sorts of fun
stuff.
A note from Emmanuel Goldstein:
"The Atari 2600 has NOTHING to do with blue boxes or telephones or the
2600 hertz tone. The 2600 hertz tone was simply the first step towards
exploring the network. If you were successful at getting a toll call to
drop, then billing would stop at that point but there would be billing
for the number already dialed up until the point of seizure. 800
numbers and long distance information were both free in the past and
records of who called what were either non-existent or very obscure with
regards to these numbers. This, naturally, made them more popular than
numbers that showed up on a bill, even if it was only for a minute.
Today, many 800 numbers go overseas, which provides a quick and free way
into another country's phone system which may be more open for
exploration."
Intel and AMD have been racing towards having the first chip out on copper...at last count, it looks like AMD is going to beat them to it. Is that what you're thinking of?
If their using Slash, which I suspect they are...they haven't indicated that they are on the page...in fact, they haven't indicated what the hell they're using period...odd...
Microsoft really doesnt know what its up against..
I hate Microsoft as much as the next mindless idiot here, but people have said the same thing when they went up against Wordperfect, Lotus 1-2-3, Netscape Navigator, Logitech Mice, Sun's Java, any number of server markets (not that they win all or even some of them, but the fact that they make a significant showing in new markets is something), Apple and IBM back in the 80's... The only people I've seen to put them in there place, besides AOL, is the DOJ...
Another thing needed, besides a support system, is just plain end user exposure to Linux. Users need to be taught the equivilent procedures to their daily activities that they do on other OSes...Linux is labeled as harder to learn alone because much of the nomenclature and procedures on it are foreign to newcomers whose only other experience is Windows (or even MacOS). Not to start a holy war, but what we need here is a) Linux in the education system (and not as geek toys, but as actual workstations for daily activites like word processing and email) and b) Linux preshipped on PCs. When that starts happening, Linux will be getting the exposure it needs to build a user base in the mainstream.
Hey moderaters...how come my message on the same damn topic got marked down, and this guy gets a 2? Sigh...
I went out on a search to find a left-handed mouse as soon as I read your plee, but could not find one. Strange, I know Logitech used to make one (and a good one, from what my left-handed users used to tell me). I did find plenty of unilateral mice, though, which should at least meet users half-way.
Even if I was left-handed, this wouldn't be much of an issure for me. I personal don't like the Intellimouse, or the Natural keyboard, or most any other MS Hardware...its a little overpriced in my opinion. Now the old IBM tactile keyboard...
With AMD hitting at its low end range of processors, and Crusoe bound to fight for its higher end range, Intel has to do much more than it is doing now to stay in contention in the chip market.
You mean that the other way around, right?
They should advertise it for its easy setup and ability to get online easily, not the color
Oh my god, they have. Don't you remember the plethora of ads that came out a year and a half ago for those things, with a PC at one table and an IMac at the other, timing to see who could get online faster? How about the home movie editting ads they have out currently? The color ad (showing something that sets an iMac apart from other computers) was only one of the many ads for the iMac. It was meant to be amusing, especially for someone who wasn't into hardcore computer use.
You are the biggest whiner in the world. Grow up.
Hey Rob, how much is your kickback? An ad, really...calm down, niekze, its not that big of a deal...its an amusing little blurb on a stupid little website...you're obviously smart enough to construct an argument, so why don't you couple that with commen sense and ignore articles that you find so blatantly "commercial".
Self-righteous twit...take your self-important katz-esque preaching and go somewhere else...
Wow, now I feel like a real doosh...I'm going to bed...
I'm going to invite flame here, but I think OS/2 is still a viable OS. It doesn't have the support base of Windows or the serving muscle of the *n*xes, but it does make a pretty stable frontend with a number of development opportunities. It's still used in many banks and a has a small but fiercely loyal consumer following. I think IBM will take the time to build in support for Win9x apps...it would greatly increase their app base and extend OS/2's viablity as an OS.
I guess I wasn't that clear...I've been up for close to 40 hours now. I meant it would be an incredible assest to use Windows code as a reference...WINE is an emulation (duh...I'm tired), and has different needs than a native OS. I'm just hoping that if the developers of WINE can get their hands on the code, it will take some of the guess work out of how to structure WINE, making it more efficient and less crash-prone. Cutting and pasting the MS code, I agree, would be an incredibly dumb idea...I don't think they'd even attempt that.