Iran has no answer to stealth, and precision munitions...To use anti-aircraft weaponry it must be revealed with radar. Turning on radar during a US attack has been shown to be suicidal.
During the Serbian-Croatian conflict they spotted your much vaunted stealth bombers and incoming missiles by tracking the holes in the cellphone network coverage.
The US has been minesweeping the gulf for decades...Any navy commander worth spit would not underestimate his enemy...I like our chances.
I''m glad you like your chances, but you might make a better navy commander if you read TFA.
No, we are nation building there.
I believe the building part of that equation is a little behind schedule. The destruction went well, however.
Iran with a bomb is intolerable.
And where is your fire and gusto for North Korea? Oh yes, you can't attack them because they are already nuclear armed. And would cream the US up and down the peninsula if they tried. Also they have no oil. Well Iran will be nuclear armed one way or the other before too long, so you'd best suck it up, my friend, because the US is in no state to invade anyone right now or for the immediate future. You might take a look at the other postings in this thread for the reasons behind that, because I really can't be bothered to reiterate them for you here.
Yes, their development of the C4 vest and the IED are particularly impressive.
Not as impressive as the development of the Zulfiqar main battle tank or the Raad-2 self propelled artillery.
These items will make fine targets for US precision weapons as they did in Iraq.
Iraq had little to no anti aircraft weaponary, unlike Iran.
After about 2 weeks of bombing there would be no significant Iranian hardware on the Persion Gulf coast.
So you have figured out how to bomb mines then? Good work, I'd patent that and retire if I was you. Meantime, I'd take a look at one example of many. FTFA:
The Joint Chiefs of Staff has been warning about Iran's growing naval buildup in the Persian Gulf for over a decade, and in a draft presidential finding submitted to President Clinton in late February 1995, concluded that Iran already had the capability to close the Strait of Hormuz.
"I think it would be problematic for any navy to face a combination of mines, small boats, anti-ship cruise missiles, torpedoes, coastal artillery, and Silkworms," said retired Navy Commander Joseph Tenaglia, CEO of Tactical Defense Concepts, a maritime security company. "This is a credible threat."
Nonetheless there are interfering and should answer for it.
So the US isn't interfering with Iraq in any significant fashion...
Thoroughly working over its nuclear and military infrastructure is another matter.
It certainly is. That would be called "war".
Somehow I don't believe that the treatment of women in Iran is as rosey as you say
I didn't say they were treated rosily. However they are aware of the poor treatment and are protesting it loudly.
Seems to me the problem with the Iranian leadership is growing.
Judging from the rest of what you have to say about the situation, I'm not too concerned about how things seem to you.
All these powerful weapons you claim for Iran? Please. You make me roll my eyes and laugh.
I am simply reporting the facts. No amount of opinion will change those. And if a country is designing, testing, and mass producing its own modern fighter craft and main battle tanks, and exporting them, I think you need to reconsider laughing at their military prowess. No matter which way you slice it, they aren't a bunch of farmers with hand me down thirty year old Russian rifles like the Taliban, or half beaten blowhards like the Iraqis. And pretty soon, they are going to have thermonuclear weapons, and theres not a lot anyone can do about it. Laugh that off.
highly likely economic sanctions will be placed on Iran that *will* make it the equivalent of Iraq over the next 3 year
And what will happen when the Russians, Chinese, and quite possibly some EU states decide not to comply with sanctions? The Chinese at the very least must be getting nervous with all this US activity so close to their western borders, and where do you think the Iranians are getting nuclear technology? That would be Russia, for five points.
As for the Iranians falling all over themselves to be a guerilla force, I think that'ssilly
It makes perfect sense when you think about it. If the US really did commit to a major engagement with Iran, chances are good that Iran would lose after an extended conflict, albeit with tremendous cost to American forces. So the ancillary plan would be to make occupation untenable with trained guerilla forces, weapons caches, and cell-based networks, among other things. In fact, with a 7 million strong militia, the US might be forced to withdraw from both Iran and Iraq, in real terms. And once again, it is a fact.
we'll shape things so we'll force the middle class to take over
You're not seeing it. Thats the kind of thinking that led to 9-11, in very real and causual terms.
It's just a misunderstanding between the kind, honest, hardworking, simple people of wherever, and the evil aggressiveness of America
I didn't say that the people of Iran were perfect, just that I found them to be interesting, intelligent, and well educated, and it would be damn shame to lose this fascinating and ancient culture in a squabble over diminishing and frankly ultimately redundant resources. That you choose to take the view that I am attacking American culture is your decision, not mine.
still appearing intellectually superior by blaming your own culture in a general sense.
Its not my culture.
Some of my best friends are black, too!
I can tell that by your.sig. Sarcastic to the point of shooting yourself in the foot?
But it may take sides with the population if it rebels.
However much internal strife there may be in Iran, I think you may rest assured that they are well and truly united against American interference in their government. The divide and conquer method that worked effectively in several countries would not be as effective in Iran, especially after Iraq. And I mentioned that they can turn up the heat on America just as much by arming extremist Islamic factions in Iraq with serious firepower, not just IEDs. And American forces are already stretched in Iraq as it is, so not only would they be facing a well organised military force, they would have to suppress a violent insurgency in an already conquered land, threatening supply lines and established bases.
Yes, you are correct; the point I was trying to make was that the language and culture are unique, and it would be a great loss to the world at large if this culture (although it is going through a rough patch right now) were to be destroyed.
If the US doesn't roll over the place in M1's, the Israeli's are going to nuke it into the stone age.
Just a few quick points to clarify some aspects of the Iranian situation for our American cousins. An invasion there would not be another Iraq. Iraq was a burned out shell of its former self, militarily, after years of sanctions and inspections. Iran is a whole other kettle of fish, and certainly no one is going to roll over with any time soon. Some facts, from all over:
Iran's army includes 350,000 regular soldiers (non-conscript) and 220,000 conscripts, and a 7 million-strong "Basiji" volunteer militia. Iran is sharpening its abilities to wage a guerrilla war. Over the last year, they've developed their tactics of 'asymmetrical' war, which would aim not at resisting a penetration of foreign forces, but to then use them on the ground to all kinds of harmful effect.
Iran designs and produces its brands of fighter and tank, among other things, some of which it exports to other countries. Initial developments in every field of military technology were carried out with the technical support of Russia, China, and North Korea to lay the foundations for future industries. Iranian reliance on these countries has rapidly decreased over the last decade in most sectors where Iran sought to gain total independence; however, in some sectors such as the Aerospace sector Iran is still greatly reliant on external help.
Iran has, at present, developed an uncanny ability to reverse engineer existing foreign hardware, improve it to its own requirements and then manufacture the finished product. They have currently a full spread of main battlefield systems, about 2,000 tanks, 300 combat aircraft, three submarines, hundreds of helicopters and at least a dozen Russian-made Scud missile launchers. Iran also has an undetermined number of Shahab missiles that have a range of more than 1,500 miles. Within minutes of any attack, Iran's air and sea forces could threaten oil shipments in the Persian Gulf as well as the Gulf of Oman. Iran controls the northern coast of the Strait of Hormuz, the narrow waterway through which oil tankers must navigate, and could sink ships, mine sea routes or bomb oil platforms.
Although the Bush administration charges that Tehran already has been interfering in Iraq, many Iranians brush off the low-level infiltration as minor compared to the damage it could cause by allowing Iraqi militiamen to take heavy weapons into Iran, by backing the most extreme Islamist groups instead of the moderates it now supports, or by dispatching operatives across the long, porous border between the two countries.
But don't worry, a war would be over by christmas, right? Thats why the American government was openly discussing a nuclear option recently, much to the horror of the rest of the world...
On a related note, I have a lot of friends inside Iran, both male and female, and I have been continually surprised at how open minded, educated and free-thinking they are, especially the women. I expected a downtrodden mentality at the very least, but these women engage me in intelligent debate, pulling no punches. Their culture is unique, with musical instruments I have never heard of anywhere else, and some wonderful music produced by these instruments. Its important also to remember, these are not arabs, these are Persians, they tend to get upset if you call them arabs. The food is remarkable, and the language is thousands of years old. Putting aside fox propaganda, and actually talking to Iranians, getting to know them, is an eye opening experience. Yes, they have many problems with the religious rulership of the country, but those problems are being resolved over time. As for their nuclear program, they simply see it as a response to American aggression. And they are right.
I managed to catch SpyBot, I think through Firefox, just by hitting a link on Digg.
Spybot is an adware removal tool, free, and a pretty damn good one too. I'm unsure how you managed to "catch" it, but I strongly suspect shilling for apple makes it relatively simple, since you obviously haven't the first clue what you are babbling about.
No, the application of weight/muscle mass/brute force is a relatively small part of a real experts fighting ability. I have some experience in Judo, and excess weight can be a serious disadvantage in that field. I don't know if you saw that video going around lately about the small Japanese woman in the elevator and the bag snatcher, but I noticed a lot of comments about it at the time, a great many of which were "fake" and "setup".
Not at all. If you look closely at her move, she gets under his centre of gravity and rolls him over her shoulder, much like he was falling off a barstool, and with approximately the same application of force. However, once he has started falling, she pushes him a bit faster, and slams him on his back. Now in Judo, you are taught a variety of breaks, that is when you hit the floor, you slam your hands to the floor just before you hit. This spreads the damage and makes sure you take a great deal less punishment from a move like this. The guy in the elevator doesn't break, and probably had his spine broken. Leverage means a lot more than weight. Judo has a lot of moves like that, which put the advantage on the smaller person, since they can get under the centre of gravity far more easily. Once there, its just a question of rolling the target one way or the other, and powering it a little bit. The weight of the body does its own damage.
You should look up that video if you get a chance, and remember, someone can take a few slaps or kicks fairly easily, but any form of throw is going to incapacitate the target semi permanently. No magic, no David Copperfield, just physics. Just because you don't understand it doesn't make it less real.
Sorry about that, but there it is. Lets take a look at this meandering, spittle-on-chin diatribe for a moment, shall we?
People seem to have wrong impression that they can influence something in "democratic" countries. It is illusion.
Whiskey tango foxtrot? What the hell are you gibbering about. Its only in democratic countries that people can change anything. You try living under a dictatorship for a few years, texas, and see how much change you manage to enact. I have personally been involved at a high level in reversing government decisions in my own country, being published and interviewed, ultimately costing said government millions to reverse policies, and a great deal of egg on their faces, and I'm no politician.
The only thing that can change situation is when people are ready to fight to death for what they believe in.
Yes the earth needs to be nourished from time to time with the blood of patriots. Nice poetry, so heres what we'll do. You leap up with your little gun and shoot someone, I'll wait in line with the rest of the voters.
European nobles had their pride and their kings were only first among equals.
So now monarchy is the root of democracy? Wow, someone should have told that to the French, right after they were told to eat cake. I seriously don't know how you mastered the written word.
As a result they are easily scared or manipulated by dictators or demagogues.
A bit like firebrands advocating bloodshed for their own ends, you mean?
Average American voter is dependent on too many things to be called a democratic constituent
Ah so democracy can work, now? You should get your story straight, son.
Real action always requires sacrifice.
It does not, however, involve murdering people. Whoever modded this up should not be allowed mod points again.
Australians, Canadians, British, Europeans, and Indians; don't think you're safe either. You all do trade with us and the groups who support this have interests in your countries as well, meaning you all will have similar laws in place soon as well
Some very good points here, but you should realise that trade is a matter of profit and negotiations. There is a certain amount of leeway on either side, but once restrictions become too onerous, the profit is no longer worth it. There is surprisingly little trade being done across the atlantic in any case. Amerikan hegemony is not as far reaching as some might think, or want.
Unfortunately, it was only voted down in two whoopping countries. It passed in almost all others.
What exactly is a whooping country? Anyway the way I read it in the papers at the time, these were the first countries where it was put up for referendum. After they failed to accept it, there was no point in continuing. It most certainly did not pass in all other countries.
I mean seriously, I constantly have customers coming in fretting about domain names. One chap sits at the visitor PC and spends hours (literally) trying different iterations of common words, and combinations. This is just silly. I tell them to relax, the name really isn't important. Content is king on the internet, the name doesn't matter a damn.
Lets take our favourite website, slashdot. What exactly does that have to do with technology or news? Nothing, and yet its one of the most successful sites out there. Google is a verb, for gods sake, and its domain name has exactly zero to do with searching. If these guys had their way, it would have been called simplysearch.com or something. One of our most successful websites LIreland the domain name doesn't mention anything to do with driving or driving schools.
This domain name hunting fad will be consigned to the murky annals of bankruptcy before too long, as more and more useful, content rich sites gain a reputation and a following. Meanwhile, trust me, the name doesn't matter a damn.
You know that just underlines the level of bullshit surrounding the web economy. Not that I'm particulariy defending slashdot here, but Nielsen will probably only track surveys for companies they got paid by, and Alexa represents people with spyware on their computers (an ever decreasing and very skewed metric). I wonder could someone set up a script that anyone with a DNS could install, to record hits for a site, or maybe higher level DNS only. Nyeh that would only be corrupted in any case. I'm not sure is there any real way to compare hits for sites in a realistic fashion...
Yes, and that is why the Philippines is now the 51st state, England rules Malaya, and Venezuela isn't currently arming up its soldiers to resist a US invasion. Shaddap. As the the GP AC, LOG IN AND KOLLECT YOUR KARMA. We need more intelligent, well thought out postings like that one.
Speaking of attracting undesireables, I appear to have picked up a stalker, nyahahah! Eh any ACs or GuloGulo (959533) that respond to this message, everyone remember the name, this one is truly half baked.
Yes, exactly, I have been saying this for a while. I'm proud that my ancestors were ratlike creatures. They survived and thrived, and pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps to produce a space age civilisation. They were the best, smartest and toughest ratlike creatures on earth!
Dearie dearie me, I'd read that olde booke of herbales again if I was you, anyone munching on sprig of hemlock will indeed feel nothing while you operate on them. Or ever again. We have to strip field of the stuff here to stop it killing the cows.
I wouldn't sweat it, the op and the AC are the same person. And if you look at his posting history, you will espy that he is probably just hitting puberty.;)
Actually the difference of opinions here is probably because he's in his early teens. You should take a look at his posting history. Either that or hes mildly deranged himself (should fit right in around here):p
Oh yeah this guy's great. I just got through spanking his juvenile ass in another discussion. You should take a look at his posting history. Nyeh I give him about four weeks.
Attaboy tiger, you go git em. I mean its one thing for me to predict your actions, something else for your to live up to them, after I tell you what you will do. Remarkable really. Heres a brief life history of you and slashdot. More poor posting just brimful of ad hominem goodness and half baked trolls, rewarded with repeated mod bombing as you received in the proceeding discussion, wrapping up with you dropping out of the site semi permanently until you grow pubic hair.
Aaaand because I know that preteens have a lot of time on their hands, I know you will merrily carry on your diatribes until the posting times out, (more predictions, see?) so I'm just going to leave it there. Feel free to natter on, it may speed the process of your voice breaking. Ah to be young again. lol.
Sigh.
Iran has no answer to stealth, and precision munitions...To use anti-aircraft weaponry it must be revealed with radar. Turning on radar during a US attack has been shown to be suicidal.
During the Serbian-Croatian conflict they spotted your much vaunted stealth bombers and incoming missiles by tracking the holes in the cellphone network coverage.
The US has been minesweeping the gulf for decades...Any navy commander worth spit would not underestimate his enemy...I like our chances.
I''m glad you like your chances, but you might make a better navy commander if you read TFA.
No, we are nation building there.
I believe the building part of that equation is a little behind schedule. The destruction went well, however.
Iran with a bomb is intolerable.
And where is your fire and gusto for North Korea? Oh yes, you can't attack them because they are already nuclear armed. And would cream the US up and down the peninsula if they tried. Also they have no oil. Well Iran will be nuclear armed one way or the other before too long, so you'd best suck it up, my friend, because the US is in no state to invade anyone right now or for the immediate future. You might take a look at the other postings in this thread for the reasons behind that, because I really can't be bothered to reiterate them for you here.
Thanks, I appreciate it. Looks like I may have ruffled some feathers. Ah well, they were half ruffled already from the sounds of things.
Yes, their development of the C4 vest and the IED are particularly impressive.
Not as impressive as the development of the Zulfiqar main battle tank or the Raad-2 self propelled artillery.
These items will make fine targets for US precision weapons as they did in Iraq.
Iraq had little to no anti aircraft weaponary, unlike Iran.
After about 2 weeks of bombing there would be no significant Iranian hardware on the Persion Gulf coast.
So you have figured out how to bomb mines then? Good work, I'd patent that and retire if I was you. Meantime, I'd take a look at one example of many. FTFA:
The Joint Chiefs of Staff has been warning about Iran's growing naval buildup in the Persian Gulf for over a decade, and in a draft presidential finding submitted to President Clinton in late February 1995, concluded that Iran already had the capability to close the Strait of Hormuz.
"I think it would be problematic for any navy to face a combination of mines, small boats, anti-ship cruise missiles, torpedoes, coastal artillery, and Silkworms," said retired Navy Commander Joseph Tenaglia, CEO of Tactical Defense Concepts, a maritime security company. "This is a credible threat."
Nonetheless there are interfering and should answer for it.
So the US isn't interfering with Iraq in any significant fashion...
Thoroughly working over its nuclear and military infrastructure is another matter.
It certainly is. That would be called "war".
Somehow I don't believe that the treatment of women in Iran is as rosey as you say
I didn't say they were treated rosily. However they are aware of the poor treatment and are protesting it loudly.
Seems to me the problem with the Iranian leadership is growing.
Judging from the rest of what you have to say about the situation, I'm not too concerned about how things seem to you.
All these powerful weapons you claim for Iran? Please. You make me roll my eyes and laugh.
I am simply reporting the facts. No amount of opinion will change those. And if a country is designing, testing, and mass producing its own modern fighter craft and main battle tanks, and exporting them, I think you need to reconsider laughing at their military prowess. No matter which way you slice it, they aren't a bunch of farmers with hand me down thirty year old Russian rifles like the Taliban, or half beaten blowhards like the Iraqis. And pretty soon, they are going to have thermonuclear weapons, and theres not a lot anyone can do about it. Laugh that off.
highly likely economic sanctions will be placed on Iran that *will* make it the equivalent of Iraq over the next 3 year
And what will happen when the Russians, Chinese, and quite possibly some EU states decide not to comply with sanctions? The Chinese at the very least must be getting nervous with all this US activity so close to their western borders, and where do you think the Iranians are getting nuclear technology? That would be Russia, for five points.
As for the Iranians falling all over themselves to be a guerilla force, I think that'ssilly
It makes perfect sense when you think about it. If the US really did commit to a major engagement with Iran, chances are good that Iran would lose after an extended conflict, albeit with tremendous cost to American forces. So the ancillary plan would be to make occupation untenable with trained guerilla forces, weapons caches, and cell-based networks, among other things. In fact, with a 7 million strong militia, the US might be forced to withdraw from both Iran and Iraq, in real terms. And once again, it is a fact.
we'll shape things so we'll force the middle class to take over
You're not seeing it. Thats the kind of thinking that led to 9-11, in very real and causual terms.
Now this is just trolling.
.sig. Sarcastic to the point of shooting yourself in the foot?
It's just a misunderstanding between the kind, honest, hardworking, simple people of wherever, and the evil aggressiveness of America
I didn't say that the people of Iran were perfect, just that I found them to be interesting, intelligent, and well educated, and it would be damn shame to lose this fascinating and ancient culture in a squabble over diminishing and frankly ultimately redundant resources. That you choose to take the view that I am attacking American culture is your decision, not mine.
still appearing intellectually superior by blaming your own culture in a general sense.
Its not my culture.
Some of my best friends are black, too!
I can tell that by your
But it may take sides with the population if it rebels.
However much internal strife there may be in Iran, I think you may rest assured that they are well and truly united against American interference in their government. The divide and conquer method that worked effectively in several countries would not be as effective in Iran, especially after Iraq. And I mentioned that they can turn up the heat on America just as much by arming extremist Islamic factions in Iraq with serious firepower, not just IEDs. And American forces are already stretched in Iraq as it is, so not only would they be facing a well organised military force, they would have to suppress a violent insurgency in an already conquered land, threatening supply lines and established bases.
Yes, you are correct; the point I was trying to make was that the language and culture are unique, and it would be a great loss to the world at large if this culture (although it is going through a rough patch right now) were to be destroyed.
If the US doesn't roll over the place in M1's, the Israeli's are going to nuke it into the stone age.
Just a few quick points to clarify some aspects of the Iranian situation for our American cousins. An invasion there would not be another Iraq. Iraq was a burned out shell of its former self, militarily, after years of sanctions and inspections. Iran is a whole other kettle of fish, and certainly no one is going to roll over with any time soon. Some facts, from all over:
Iran's army includes 350,000 regular soldiers (non-conscript) and 220,000 conscripts, and a 7 million-strong "Basiji" volunteer militia. Iran is sharpening its abilities to wage a guerrilla war. Over the last year, they've developed their tactics of 'asymmetrical' war, which would aim not at resisting a penetration of foreign forces, but to then use them on the ground to all kinds of harmful effect.
Iran designs and produces its brands of fighter and tank, among other things, some of which it exports to other countries. Initial developments in every field of military technology were carried out with the technical support of Russia, China, and North Korea to lay the foundations for future industries. Iranian reliance on these countries has rapidly decreased over the last decade in most sectors where Iran sought to gain total independence; however, in some sectors such as the Aerospace sector Iran is still greatly reliant on external help.
Iran has, at present, developed an uncanny ability to reverse engineer existing foreign hardware, improve it to its own requirements and then manufacture the finished product. They have currently a full spread of main battlefield systems, about 2,000 tanks, 300 combat aircraft, three submarines, hundreds of helicopters and at least a dozen Russian-made Scud missile launchers. Iran also has an undetermined number of Shahab missiles that have a range of more than 1,500 miles. Within minutes of any attack, Iran's air and sea forces could threaten oil shipments in the Persian Gulf as well as the Gulf of Oman. Iran controls the northern coast of the Strait of Hormuz, the narrow waterway through which oil tankers must navigate, and could sink ships, mine sea routes or bomb oil platforms.
Although the Bush administration charges that Tehran already has been interfering in Iraq, many Iranians brush off the low-level infiltration as minor compared to the damage it could cause by allowing Iraqi militiamen to take heavy weapons into Iran, by backing the most extreme Islamist groups instead of the moderates it now supports, or by dispatching operatives across the long, porous border between the two countries.
But don't worry, a war would be over by christmas, right? Thats why the American government was openly discussing a nuclear option recently, much to the horror of the rest of the world...
On a related note, I have a lot of friends inside Iran, both male and female, and I have been continually surprised at how open minded, educated and free-thinking they are, especially the women. I expected a downtrodden mentality at the very least, but these women engage me in intelligent debate, pulling no punches. Their culture is unique, with musical instruments I have never heard of anywhere else, and some wonderful music produced by these instruments. Its important also to remember, these are not arabs, these are Persians, they tend to get upset if you call them arabs. The food is remarkable, and the language is thousands of years old. Putting aside fox propaganda, and actually talking to Iranians, getting to know them, is an eye opening experience. Yes, they have many problems with the religious rulership of the country, but those problems are being resolved over time. As for their nuclear program, they simply see it as a response to American aggression. And they are right.
I managed to catch SpyBot, I think through Firefox, just by hitting a link on Digg.
Spybot is an adware removal tool, free, and a pretty damn good one too. I'm unsure how you managed to "catch" it, but I strongly suspect shilling for apple makes it relatively simple, since you obviously haven't the first clue what you are babbling about.
No, the application of weight/muscle mass/brute force is a relatively small part of a real experts fighting ability. I have some experience in Judo, and excess weight can be a serious disadvantage in that field. I don't know if you saw that video going around lately about the small Japanese woman in the elevator and the bag snatcher, but I noticed a lot of comments about it at the time, a great many of which were "fake" and "setup".
Not at all. If you look closely at her move, she gets under his centre of gravity and rolls him over her shoulder, much like he was falling off a barstool, and with approximately the same application of force. However, once he has started falling, she pushes him a bit faster, and slams him on his back. Now in Judo, you are taught a variety of breaks, that is when you hit the floor, you slam your hands to the floor just before you hit. This spreads the damage and makes sure you take a great deal less punishment from a move like this. The guy in the elevator doesn't break, and probably had his spine broken. Leverage means a lot more than weight. Judo has a lot of moves like that, which put the advantage on the smaller person, since they can get under the centre of gravity far more easily. Once there, its just a question of rolling the target one way or the other, and powering it a little bit. The weight of the body does its own damage.
You should look up that video if you get a chance, and remember, someone can take a few slaps or kicks fairly easily, but any form of throw is going to incapacitate the target semi permanently. No magic, no David Copperfield, just physics. Just because you don't understand it doesn't make it less real.
Sorry about that, but there it is. Lets take a look at this meandering, spittle-on-chin diatribe for a moment, shall we?
People seem to have wrong impression that they can influence something in "democratic" countries. It is illusion.
Whiskey tango foxtrot? What the hell are you gibbering about. Its only in democratic countries that people can change anything. You try living under a dictatorship for a few years, texas, and see how much change you manage to enact. I have personally been involved at a high level in reversing government decisions in my own country, being published and interviewed, ultimately costing said government millions to reverse policies, and a great deal of egg on their faces, and I'm no politician.
The only thing that can change situation is when people are ready to fight to death for what they believe in.
Yes the earth needs to be nourished from time to time with the blood of patriots. Nice poetry, so heres what we'll do. You leap up with your little gun and shoot someone, I'll wait in line with the rest of the voters.
European nobles had their pride and their kings were only first among equals.
So now monarchy is the root of democracy? Wow, someone should have told that to the French, right after they were told to eat cake. I seriously don't know how you mastered the written word.
As a result they are easily scared or manipulated by dictators or demagogues.
A bit like firebrands advocating bloodshed for their own ends, you mean?
Average American voter is dependent on too many things to be called a democratic constituent
Ah so democracy can work, now? You should get your story straight, son.
Real action always requires sacrifice.
It does not, however, involve murdering people. Whoever modded this up should not be allowed mod points again.
Australians, Canadians, British, Europeans, and Indians; don't think you're safe either. You all do trade with us and the groups who support this have interests in your countries as well, meaning you all will have similar laws in place soon as well
Some very good points here, but you should realise that trade is a matter of profit and negotiations. There is a certain amount of leeway on either side, but once restrictions become too onerous, the profit is no longer worth it. There is surprisingly little trade being done across the atlantic in any case. Amerikan hegemony is not as far reaching as some might think, or want.
Unfortunately, it was only voted down in two whoopping countries. It passed in almost all others.
What exactly is a whooping country? Anyway the way I read it in the papers at the time, these were the first countries where it was put up for referendum. After they failed to accept it, there was no point in continuing. It most certainly did not pass in all other countries.
Domain names are important because search engines seems to value the occurency of the searched word inside the domain quite high.
Yeah, but if you can't get it, don't sweat it.
I mean seriously, I constantly have customers coming in fretting about domain names. One chap sits at the visitor PC and spends hours (literally) trying different iterations of common words, and combinations. This is just silly. I tell them to relax, the name really isn't important. Content is king on the internet, the name doesn't matter a damn.
Lets take our favourite website, slashdot. What exactly does that have to do with technology or news? Nothing, and yet its one of the most successful sites out there. Google is a verb, for gods sake, and its domain name has exactly zero to do with searching. If these guys had their way, it would have been called simplysearch.com or something. One of our most successful websites LIreland the domain name doesn't mention anything to do with driving or driving schools.
This domain name hunting fad will be consigned to the murky annals of bankruptcy before too long, as more and more useful, content rich sites gain a reputation and a following. Meanwhile, trust me, the name doesn't matter a damn.
You know that just underlines the level of bullshit surrounding the web economy. Not that I'm particulariy defending slashdot here, but Nielsen will probably only track surveys for companies they got paid by, and Alexa represents people with spyware on their computers (an ever decreasing and very skewed metric). I wonder could someone set up a script that anyone with a DNS could install, to record hits for a site, or maybe higher level DNS only. Nyeh that would only be corrupted in any case. I'm not sure is there any real way to compare hits for sites in a realistic fashion...
Check his posting history. I reckon pre-pubescent or some sort of terminal shut-in. In either case, he won't last long. :D
Yes, and that is why the Philippines is now the 51st state, England rules Malaya, and Venezuela isn't currently arming up its soldiers to resist a US invasion. Shaddap. As the the GP AC, LOG IN AND KOLLECT YOUR KARMA. We need more intelligent, well thought out postings like that one.
Speaking of attracting undesireables, I appear to have picked up a stalker, nyahahah! Eh any ACs or GuloGulo (959533) that respond to this message, everyone remember the name, this one is truly half baked.
Yes, exactly, I have been saying this for a while. I'm proud that my ancestors were ratlike creatures. They survived and thrived, and pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps to produce a space age civilisation. They were the best, smartest and toughest ratlike creatures on earth!
hemlock
Dearie dearie me, I'd read that olde booke of herbales again if I was you, anyone munching on sprig of hemlock will indeed feel nothing while you operate on them. Or ever again. We have to strip field of the stuff here to stop it killing the cows.
I wouldn't sweat it, the op and the AC are the same person. And if you look at his posting history, you will espy that he is probably just hitting puberty. ;)
Actually the difference of opinions here is probably because he's in his early teens. You should take a look at his posting history. Either that or hes mildly deranged himself (should fit right in around here) :p
Oh yeah this guy's great. I just got through spanking his juvenile ass in another discussion. You should take a look at his posting history. Nyeh I give him about four weeks.
Attaboy tiger, you go git em. I mean its one thing for me to predict your actions, something else for your to live up to them, after I tell you what you will do. Remarkable really. Heres a brief life history of you and slashdot. More poor posting just brimful of ad hominem goodness and half baked trolls, rewarded with repeated mod bombing as you received in the proceeding discussion, wrapping up with you dropping out of the site semi permanently until you grow pubic hair.
Aaaand because I know that preteens have a lot of time on their hands, I know you will merrily carry on your diatribes until the posting times out, (more predictions, see?) so I'm just going to leave it there. Feel free to natter on, it may speed the process of your voice breaking. Ah to be young again. lol.