No, social security numbers are a license to exist. That along with yoru state ID and birth certificate. You're not getting too far in society without these. Lets not pretend that this is a new idea. If anything its a consolidation of the stuff that's already out there.
Also, my passport is my right to exist in other countries.
Yeah, its not like these "totalitarian governments" already have me:
1. Registering for the draft at voting age. 2. Getting a drivers license (barring that a state ID) 3. Registering my car and license. 4. Maintain a passport if I want to travel. 5. Maintain a social security number. 6. File state and federal taxes. 7. Maintain a FOID card. etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc
I like the national ID because it arguable can fold services 1, 2, 4, and 7 into one stupid card and cut the bureaucracy. Instead the states are busy protecting the jobs of their inane traffic/records bureaucracy and are afraid of the cost of modernization. Sadly, the 'state's rights' conservative crowd will cheer these bureaucracies on pretending they are protecting us from the next hitler or somesuch.
>My Wacom tablet does it but my hand has to be pretty close to it to feel anything
I dont think the tablets create anything yuo can actually feel. Hell, the tablets are passive, the actual power is in the pen with the battery. Chalk this up to being psychosomatic. I used to believe I could feel wifi signals if they were too close to my head. Doing a blind test proved I was wrong.
Maybe things are different nowadays with the battery free pen. Still, thats really a small amount of energy.
Congress is a product of the people. People in general need to curb the bullshit, that includes things such as assuming its okay to download music in lieu of buying a CD and saying stuff such as 'imaginary property rights.' One group of morons is feeding the other. If people actually believed in free culture they would only consume free items. RIAA artists want you to pay them. Posting keys isnt some glamorous civil-rights disobedience its saying "Dude, now I can totally download more hollywood crap now and act righteous!"
The those of us outside this system of big-budget movies and music and those who steal it and the lawmakers trying to figure it out, its either funny or pathetic depending on our moods.
The gaim/pidgin developers have stated that they refuse to use any encryption that is vulnerable to man-in-middle attacks and encryption that cannot verify the identity of the remote user. So in other words, until there is a worldwide standard for public key cryptography they wont do it at all, which is one of the many reasons to avoid this project.
Because slashdot likes to think its always 'sticking to the man' The man in this case is ebay. how rebellious to advocate online censorship!!
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Probably never. This a place that still publishes any anti-MS rumor. Slashdot is so agenda driven its chased off some sober minds and most of the people who are left approve the agenda.
>They may not be collaborating with Microsoft on this issue, but this is not going to prevent Microsoft from porting Windows to the XO and trying to sell it (or give it away) to the governments that will purchase the laptops.
So? What ever happened to freedom to innovate and freedom to tinker? Oh right, that doesnt apply when you use MS (or whoever is the bad guy nowadays) software. Maybe it should only run signed code to keep the boogeyman away. Is the DIY/tinker ethic just for FOSS now? How much of the special kool-aid do I have to drink to agree with you?
Seriously, its a shame that people are willing to throw out their own ethics (not to mention make decisions for others) because of the MS-hate which now more or less defines the entire FOSS culture.
Not to mention the 'herd effect.' If only the wealthy can afford proper heathcare, then the poor who cannot will just infect them with whatever is going around. Their chances of catching this go up and up as the poor pass it among themselves then finally to them. No man is an island.
Its a revolution because by 'download video' they mean you pay 19.99 shipping for them to send you a MemoryStick 256meg that will only work on a VAIO. You will then have to export the video file and the sound file to a CD and a minidisc. The video is in a non-standard mp4 format that only your Playstation 3 can play and the sound is an ATRAC format that requires a Genuine Sony Minidisc player. When the video starts on the PS3, quickly press the play button on your minidisc player and get ready for some proprietary fun. Take that youtube!
>when you can buy a cheaper, more reliable computer?
A couple reasons:
1. You have incredibly simplistic needs (a browser and a basic office suite), most companies need a lot more.
2. Legacy apps. Inertia. Exchange,etc.
3. The money is there/has been earmarked.
4. Boss ignorance and fear of change.
5. Support contracts. Not to mention the lack of a 'standard' linux distro.
6. Retraining of developers, IT, etc.
7. Retraining of users.
8. Compatibiliy with proprietary file formats from external clients/partners.
9. pDA/blackberry support.
etc etc
Look, its great that a simple business like yours doesnt need the pricey wintel stuff, but its a little foolish to assume that if it works for you it should work for everyone.
BS? No. Hyperbole? Yes. My point is that all these add-ons are not needed and are huge barriers to entry for people who want everyday email encryption. A simple s/mime cert is easy to get and very easy to use with thunderbird. s/mime is supported by many mail clients. The assumption that you need to walk down the gpg + enigmail path just for encrypted email is not correct and is overkill.
Your friends probably dont need military grade public key cryptography along with a confusing install. Enigmail is pretty much the GUI for gpgp for thunderbird. Most users wont get past the point of "where do I click to make this email magically unreadedable to George bush!?!?" Its probably a lot easier to use the buit-in s/mime support in thunderbird than to add more confusing crypto products.
Oh course, considering the number of people who have shifted to webmail, its going to be interesting to see if any of these big webmail providers begin to support crytopgrahy. Are people going to trust google, yahoo, or hotmail with their private key? Do they even know what this means?
Sadly, the encrypt email revolution never happened (poor phil zimmerman) and thanks to webmail and an apathetic public it probably never will.
Tux is actually a very positive symbol. Its just a happy looking penguin.
Funny how all these lists mention clippy, but never the gnu goat-thing. It even has a smart-ass smirk on its face like it just finished 'flaming a noob' in a newsgroup.
The wikipedia is absolutely not your friend. The last issue of 2600 had the best technical analysis of the 'great firewall' I've read. The wiki article is pretty slim on information and facts. It reads like a general 'how things can be blocked' article.
Yep unfortunately the boingboingers and others who see a government conspiracy around every turn are going to spin this into "OMG they are censoring our tubes" instead of allowing this to open the debate on the usefulness on proprietary block lists and keyword blocking. Which is a shame.
MS could take your advice and keep building on XP, but they would charge, just like APple charges for the next "version" of their OS. Essentially, SP2 should have cost 150 dollars, but it was free. I seriously doubt windows users want MS to act like Apple.
A clean-ish break from XP is actually a good idea, but the implementation didnt go off so great. I wouldnt be surprised if by the time Vista hits SP1 it will have some love come its way, the same way XP did, which from what I remember on these boards was "just a new 2000 skin, dont buy it" "ripoff" "conspiracy to blah blah" "raw ports will destroy the net" "home version wont join a domain, run!!" "system restore didnt work in ME so it wont work in XP" "WMP and DRM!" etc.
>Why should he suffer an inconvenience to suit their schedule?
Welcome to the real world! When you get sued or sue someone (or arrested, or goto court, etc), you'll find out that "DUde, oMG I have class that day" excuse doesn't fly.
The features you are asking for are for an outlook clone. TB is at best a mail.app and outlook express clone. The devs dont seem to be interested in making it as feature rich at outlook and I wouldnt hold my breath.
A willing group that wants this should fork it and integrate evolution's webdav connector, integrate a calendar, and update the newsreader to this century and if done well will marginlize TB the way FF did to the Mozilla suite. I'd donate time and money to this project.
This is a pain, and I think stems from the ideological notion behind the software. But I dont think using the date stamp to display messages is part of any "standard" I know of. So in the real world, when I get spam or mail from people with misconfigured smtp servers (or possibly client machines) and the date field is 1998 or something, then I need to root through my email with the mouse scroll wheel to find this one piece of unread mail because it wont appear at the top. Its just stupid. I understand that the TB maintainers see themselves as Netscape Mail part II, but Netscape has got a lot of things wrong. Maintaining that tradition isnt the wisest move.
Well, the gun-nuts here quickly seized the issue and even before the bodies are warm, are screaming "GUNS R GOOD MMMKAY?" all over this thread. Disgraceful.
>This pretty much means you're a squatter looking to capitalize on ad impressions. If you're a legitimate business
Who says DNS registrars care about promiting legitimate business or stopping ad click farms? Its pretty much their bread and butter right now. If there's a problem here, then it can be solved by regulating these registrars. Now, considering these registrars are usually ad impression squatters and domain typo resellers themselves, well, dont hold your breath expecting them to regulate themselves.
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>National IDs are basically a license to exist.
No, social security numbers are a license to exist. That along with yoru state ID and birth certificate. You're not getting too far in society without these. Lets not pretend that this is a new idea. If anything its a consolidation of the stuff that's already out there.
Also, my passport is my right to exist in other countries.
Yeah, its not like these "totalitarian governments" already have me:
1. Registering for the draft at voting age.
2. Getting a drivers license (barring that a state ID)
3. Registering my car and license.
4. Maintain a passport if I want to travel.
5. Maintain a social security number.
6. File state and federal taxes.
7. Maintain a FOID card.
etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc
I like the national ID because it arguable can fold services 1, 2, 4, and 7 into one stupid card and cut the bureaucracy. Instead the states are busy protecting the jobs of their inane traffic/records bureaucracy and are afraid of the cost of modernization. Sadly, the 'state's rights' conservative crowd will cheer these bureaucracies on pretending they are protecting us from the next hitler or somesuch.
>My Wacom tablet does it but my hand has to be pretty close to it to feel anything
I dont think the tablets create anything yuo can actually feel. Hell, the tablets are passive, the actual power is in the pen with the battery. Chalk this up to being psychosomatic. I used to believe I could feel wifi signals if they were too close to my head. Doing a blind test proved I was wrong.
Maybe things are different nowadays with the battery free pen. Still, thats really a small amount of energy.
>Vista home allows you to backup for a restore you have to upgrade to ultimate
Well, that's just a lie. The normal backup works fine. If you want the shadow copy service (VSS) then pay for it.
The rest of your post is subjective semi-mindless bitching, but as long as its anti-MS I'm sure you'll get +5 informative or insightful.
>To curb the bullshit.
Congress is a product of the people. People in general need to curb the bullshit, that includes things such as assuming its okay to download music in lieu of buying a CD and saying stuff such as 'imaginary property rights.' One group of morons is feeding the other. If people actually believed in free culture they would only consume free items. RIAA artists want you to pay them. Posting keys isnt some glamorous civil-rights disobedience its saying "Dude, now I can totally download more hollywood crap now and act righteous!"
The those of us outside this system of big-budget movies and music and those who steal it and the lawmakers trying to figure it out, its either funny or pathetic depending on our moods.
>like encryption and VoIP support.
The gaim/pidgin developers have stated that they refuse to use any encryption that is vulnerable to man-in-middle attacks and encryption that cannot verify the identity of the remote user. So in other words, until there is a worldwide standard for public key cryptography they wont do it at all, which is one of the many reasons to avoid this project.
Because slashdot likes to think its always 'sticking to the man' The man in this case is ebay. how rebellious to advocate online censorship!!
Probably never. This a place that still publishes any anti-MS rumor. Slashdot is so agenda driven its chased off some sober minds and most of the people who are left approve the agenda.
>They may not be collaborating with Microsoft on this issue, but this is not going to prevent Microsoft from porting Windows to the XO and trying to sell it (or give it away) to the governments that will purchase the laptops.
So? What ever happened to freedom to innovate and freedom to tinker? Oh right, that doesnt apply when you use MS (or whoever is the bad guy nowadays) software. Maybe it should only run signed code to keep the boogeyman away. Is the DIY/tinker ethic just for FOSS now? How much of the special kool-aid do I have to drink to agree with you?
Seriously, its a shame that people are willing to throw out their own ethics (not to mention make decisions for others) because of the MS-hate which now more or less defines the entire FOSS culture.
Not to mention the 'herd effect.' If only the wealthy can afford proper heathcare, then the poor who cannot will just infect them with whatever is going around. Their chances of catching this go up and up as the poor pass it among themselves then finally to them. No man is an island.
That's what Jimmy Carter is doing today! (well, the USS Jimmy Carter)
Its a revolution because by 'download video' they mean you pay 19.99 shipping for them to send you a MemoryStick 256meg that will only work on a VAIO. You will then have to export the video file and the sound file to a CD and a minidisc. The video is in a non-standard mp4 format that only your Playstation 3 can play and the sound is an ATRAC format that requires a Genuine Sony Minidisc player. When the video starts on the PS3, quickly press the play button on your minidisc player and get ready for some proprietary fun. Take that youtube!
Now thats revolutionary.
>when you can buy a cheaper, more reliable computer?
A couple reasons:
1. You have incredibly simplistic needs (a browser and a basic office suite), most companies need a lot more.
2. Legacy apps. Inertia. Exchange,etc.
3. The money is there/has been earmarked.
4. Boss ignorance and fear of change.
5. Support contracts. Not to mention the lack of a 'standard' linux distro.
6. Retraining of developers, IT, etc.
7. Retraining of users.
8. Compatibiliy with proprietary file formats from external clients/partners.
9. pDA/blackberry support.
etc etc
Look, its great that a simple business like yours doesnt need the pricey wintel stuff, but its a little foolish to assume that if it works for you it should work for everyone.
BS? No. Hyperbole? Yes. My point is that all these add-ons are not needed and are huge barriers to entry for people who want everyday email encryption. A simple s/mime cert is easy to get and very easy to use with thunderbird. s/mime is supported by many mail clients. The assumption that you need to walk down the gpg + enigmail path just for encrypted email is not correct and is overkill.
Your friends probably dont need military grade public key cryptography along with a confusing install. Enigmail is pretty much the GUI for gpgp for thunderbird. Most users wont get past the point of "where do I click to make this email magically unreadedable to George bush!?!?" Its probably a lot easier to use the buit-in s/mime support in thunderbird than to add more confusing crypto products.
Oh course, considering the number of people who have shifted to webmail, its going to be interesting to see if any of these big webmail providers begin to support crytopgrahy. Are people going to trust google, yahoo, or hotmail with their private key? Do they even know what this means?
Sadly, the encrypt email revolution never happened (poor phil zimmerman) and thanks to webmail and an apathetic public it probably never will.
Tux is actually a very positive symbol. Its just a happy looking penguin.
Funny how all these lists mention clippy, but never the gnu goat-thing. It even has a smart-ass smirk on its face like it just finished 'flaming a noob' in a newsgroup.
Wow those are great photos.
The wikipedia is absolutely not your friend. The last issue of 2600 had the best technical analysis of the 'great firewall' I've read. The wiki article is pretty slim on information and facts. It reads like a general 'how things can be blocked' article.
Yep unfortunately the boingboingers and others who see a government conspiracy around every turn are going to spin this into "OMG they are censoring our tubes" instead of allowing this to open the debate on the usefulness on proprietary block lists and keyword blocking. Which is a shame.
MS could take your advice and keep building on XP, but they would charge, just like APple charges for the next "version" of their OS. Essentially, SP2 should have cost 150 dollars, but it was free. I seriously doubt windows users want MS to act like Apple.
A clean-ish break from XP is actually a good idea, but the implementation didnt go off so great. I wouldnt be surprised if by the time Vista hits SP1 it will have some love come its way, the same way XP did, which from what I remember on these boards was "just a new 2000 skin, dont buy it" "ripoff" "conspiracy to blah blah" "raw ports will destroy the net" "home version wont join a domain, run!!" "system restore didnt work in ME so it wont work in XP" "WMP and DRM!" etc.
>Why should he suffer an inconvenience to suit their schedule?
Welcome to the real world! When you get sued or sue someone (or arrested, or goto court, etc), you'll find out that "DUde, oMG I have class that day" excuse doesn't fly.
The features you are asking for are for an outlook clone. TB is at best a mail.app and outlook express clone. The devs dont seem to be interested in making it as feature rich at outlook and I wouldnt hold my breath.
A willing group that wants this should fork it and integrate evolution's webdav connector, integrate a calendar, and update the newsreader to this century and if done well will marginlize TB the way FF did to the Mozilla suite. I'd donate time and money to this project.
This is a pain, and I think stems from the ideological notion behind the software. But I dont think using the date stamp to display messages is part of any "standard" I know of. So in the real world, when I get spam or mail from people with misconfigured smtp servers (or possibly client machines) and the date field is 1998 or something, then I need to root through my email with the mouse scroll wheel to find this one piece of unread mail because it wont appear at the top. Its just stupid. I understand that the TB maintainers see themselves as Netscape Mail part II, but Netscape has got a lot of things wrong. Maintaining that tradition isnt the wisest move.
> vs. "guns r bad mmmkay?"
Well, the gun-nuts here quickly seized the issue and even before the bodies are warm, are screaming "GUNS R GOOD MMMKAY?" all over this thread. Disgraceful.
>This pretty much means you're a squatter looking to capitalize on ad impressions. If you're a legitimate business
Who says DNS registrars care about promiting legitimate business or stopping ad click farms? Its pretty much their bread and butter right now. If there's a problem here, then it can be solved by regulating these registrars. Now, considering these registrars are usually ad impression squatters and domain typo resellers themselves, well, dont hold your breath expecting them to regulate themselves.