>For practical purposes, what is the difference between this and actually blocking them?
In every way possible. They are publishing a list saying "We have some credible reporst that these domains are spamming." Mail administrators make the decision to actually block. If there is wrong here, then the mail admins shuold be asked why they are using a supposedly unrealible service. Not to mention there is no right to email delivery. This looks like another wacky case of internet law.
Its the managers and admins who actually pull the trigger. If they read 'speed up your system by doing format c:" somewhere on the internet, guess who's at fault here. Its not the internet prankster.
I love how the parent post is nothing but stuff 13 year olds would try in real life like snooping in on what the girls are saying and scamming dad for more allowance. What a perfect justification of the grandparent's criticism.
Sure, there can be many civil/tort cases from this. Its essentially public humiliation using private informtion from private people under false pretenses. Because this involves sex and bondage everyone is giggling but its the same as:
1. Starting a fake suicide help line and then airing the phone calls on your favorite morning zoo radio show, mocking the callers, and revealing their names and phone numbers.
2. Placing a personal ad for gays/lesbians then collecting their names, fidning where they work, and "outing" them to their boss, coworkers, and family.
I'd like to see a tort case ruin this guy so future "hilarious" jackasses think twice before revealing this kind of information. Arguably, if he went 10 seconds out of his way to not post the email addresses and fuzzy out the faces thus preserving some level of anonimity then he would be more or less safe. Like how Comedy Central can have puppets crank calling people, some of whom are answering classified ads for fake jobs.
>It's also only true because stupid users BREAK their PC's.
Starforce and other anti-pirating nonsense break my PCs. The PC gaming publishers need to lay off invading my machine with their unstable invasive software.
Its a meat market for the socially inept/anxious/whatever. I've only seen the things described in the article happen when a higher level male character gains interest in lower level female member. ALl thw downtime (waiting for raids, spawns, etc) allows for a lot of chat. So, this is just a case of humans doing what humans do best: mate.
>It used to be you could switch a hard drive running Windows 98, reload motherboard drivers, and you're running
I've done this a few times with no problems. Remove video, chipset, and sound drivers. Remove disk from computer. Put disk in new computer. Boot windows. Heck you could just remove the chipset driver if youre lazy.
Shitty 3D drivers and hardware is not MS's fault. I dont call Linus a bastard because tux racer doesnt work on my old HP box. In fact, MS has done a surprisingly decent job of helping push out stable drivers with their signed drivers program. Their NT based products are actually pretty nice. The Dos/Win95 stuff, not so much. Most crashes nowadays can be traced to poor drivers or failing hardware.
Of course this ignores drm, wga, licensing, costs, bundled apps, etc.
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It really was. Ive always was tempted to put him on the death pool list. Oh well, maybe Wernor Herzog will make an odd documentary about him like Grizzly Man. It would be fitting as Treadwell was just an Irwin impersonator.
I had a serious converstion about this guy to a female friend of mine after seeing grizzly man. Irwin puts himself at much more danger and it seems very irresponsible for him to do so considering he's a family man. He has a couple kids. Not to troll, but men like these really need to look at the long view of their activities. If youre high-rish you shouldnt start a family. Although im sure Irwin has made enough money to cover them, but they still wont have their real father.
That phrase is about valium abuse in the 60s, not antidepressants which take 4 weeks to begin working. Mental illness is a real illness and youre attitude certainly doesnt help. You have a friend who is sick and takes a drug to normalize his moods and you're mocking him? Calling him doped up? Gee, no wonder he's depressed. With friends like you who needs enemies?
As far as the 'kills creativity' argument goes. Who knows. I think its vastly overplayed. "Art" created by people who are depressed or manic tends to be shit anyway. The people with real talent will always shine through regardless of moods. Tons of creative people have been treated for some kind of mental illness and they remained producive afterwards.
If the normalization effect makes someone say "I'd rather do this now" then more power to them. Not to mention, depression kills, I'd rather have a living friend than a suicide victim songmaker.
>results in the infiltration of your company's office such that your Intranet data (e.g., customer personal info, credit cards, etc) can be leaked out.
Sure, I've heard stuff like:
"Yeah, the company isnt doing so well, our sales are down again."
"We're going to fire so-and-so for sexual harrasment."
I've also heard of many social engineering attacks at places I've worked. You can still "leak data" with your mouth. Its easy if you try.
Also, its highly disingenious to pull the security card during a filtering argument. Its not that difficult to secure windows boxen. I dont think there are any popular exploits that work on systems when users are set to user not admin. Blocking content and saying, "Look we're secure" is a fireable offense imho for someone in security. A semi-motivated attacker will just call and say he's someone else and your web-filtered staff will happily hand out passwords and documents. No myspace involved.
>Why do people expect to be given free internet access at work?
They also *gasp* make personal phone calls sometime. Sometimes to the babysitter or their spouse! We must implement a whitelist for the phone immediatly.
Seriously, work is a compromise. You want humans to work for you, then be prepared to meet them halfway on their social needs. Or watch yourself get a reputation for being an arrogant boss and a 'fascist company.' Talent will never come knocking at your door and you'll be stuck with people who love or can tolerate harsh policies. People who dont use the web as the resource that it is, people afraid to make a personal call, and people who end up in a stokholm-symdrome-like way defending these silly policies. Not to mention how competitive is a company with these draconian policies? In my experience its crappy little small business with paranoid micro-managing bosses who demand hardcode filtering.
Also, professional work is rarely sitting at a machine and putting in x amount of work like a typical blue collar job. Its collaberation and social skills. Its finding out new things. That means you need tools to communicate. That means there will be slow periods and downtimes. That means using the internet with as little restriction as possible.
Also, there's a real difference between a technological and social problem. If someone slacks on their job because of the internet (or any reason) it becomes obvious after a while. If this happens its not because you lack a decent filtering system its because you lack a good employee.
Lastly, if security is such a concern, I believe very few, if any, popular windows exploits work when the user doesnt have admin access. A simple security change like this, which is something that hsould have been done long ago, makes the web very safe. Blaming poor security practices on the web is just being silly.
Released Movie Name 1st Weekend US Gross Worldwide Gross Budget 4/11/1997Anaconda $16,620,887 $65,598,907 - - 8/27/2004 Anacondas: The Hunt for the Blood Orchid $12,812,287 $31,526,393 $47,026,393 $25,000,000 Totals $97,125,300 $112,625,300 $25,000,000 Averages $48,562,650 $56,312,650 $25,000,000
>This movie debut - 10 years ago = Complete and utter bust.
Naww. There was considerable non-blog based hype. The wacky trailers, word of mouth, etc. I think this movie would have done just as well without the so called internet hype. There's a great deal of over-estimation of the number and influence levels of 'internet people.' Seriously. If all the net-based hype refelected reality then:
Bill Gates would be serving his fourth year in prison. John Kerry would be president. Richard Stallman would be on television. Churches would fold up because of lack of interest. Anime would be everywhere. Star Trek would have its own cable channel. Or two.
etc. The net isn't reality. Now Hollywood knows this.
>free energy would collapse some economies, invigorate others, bring about new business opportunities, advance the living conditions of people stuck in third world countries
Not really. Unless it could compete on price with gas, oil, or nuclear power then it will just be a curiousity. We already have various "free-ish" energy sources out there like wind and water. The problem is that they cost too much and don't produce enough power, thus tradtional power-generation wins out. These methods have specialized applications, but unless these things can seriously compete on price then they won't change the world at all.
Also, its worth noting that a great deal of poverty in the third-world is not a technological problem but a social one. Its not tech holding them back its their corrupt and incompetent warlords running the show. Money better invested in local hostpital, clean wells, etc then in getting 220v AC to everyone out there. Political incentives (slave labor, international aid monies) to keep people poor. etc. etc.
This is a leak photo. Its acutally not black, its a black and white photo because all the testing units are a different color so MS can track people who break NDAs. The headphones are still attached and their magenetic, so theyre sticking together in the photo. The final product will most likely be different.
>There's nothing hip or cool aboug having some music device from a giant corporation.
Because Apple is just a humble ma and pa shop down the road...
>it says WalMart-chic all over it.
Well, it should say "cheaper than an ipod" and "works with windows media player." It will also probably say "discounted when bundled with a new dell." You'd be surprised at the number of people whose first priority isnt "looking cool."
Frankly, the more competition the better in the mp3 player market, even if it is Redmond.
>Why wouldn't they want to embrace safety technology like this?
Same reasons as usual. Price and false-positives. If this is the same tech I saw a few months ago then it needs to be replaced everytime it goes off. So if someone is careless or if the machine does a false-positive then that machine will be offline until the safety part is replaced. Not to mention that part costs money.
I'd also be concerned about people in a hurry just "shoving a penny in the circuit breaker" to reach some deadline and never replacing the safety component. In the end I think these companies are going to ask themselves if this costs more than what worker's comp currently costs. A bit heartless but the guy who holds this patent isn't going to license it for free either. I'd love to see a world where everyone wasn't out on the make to become a billionare when it comes to safety. On the plus side the government is stepping in to mandate these systems and the saw companies dont have to use Gass's system, but I wonder if he (hes a patent attorney) will sue anyone with a similiar system.
It disguises itself as numberedlinks. If that guy does get a bad rep it'll be because of lazy people like you who cannot be bothered to read an article on mozdev before starting a witch burning.
Because slashdot is further degenerating into a kiddie site, at least more than usual with these silly taunts. Proper backups? Granted you can lose data during a power loss but power loss does not equal data center destruction. Oh well, Im going to check out whats being posted at digg.
How about some -real- stories? The "power is out" story is as old and fake as "cd-rom, you mean my cup-holder?" The real story here is that so many support people simply wear their job as some kind of badge of honor. This teenage mentality of "im smarter than you" is kinda depressing. When I did support I realized I probably had the worst job out of everyone in the company and wished I picked a different major/concentration/opportunity. Not exactly the smartest move. Oh well, maybe I'll hear about the lady who used her mouse as a foot-pedal too.
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>For practical purposes, what is the difference between this and actually blocking them?
In every way possible. They are publishing a list saying "We have some credible reporst that these domains are spamming." Mail administrators make the decision to actually block. If there is wrong here, then the mail admins shuold be asked why they are using a supposedly unrealible service. Not to mention there is no right to email delivery. This looks like another wacky case of internet law.
Its the managers and admins who actually pull the trigger. If they read 'speed up your system by doing format c:" somewhere on the internet, guess who's at fault here. Its not the internet prankster.
>I think OS X will end up with the reputation of being the faster of the two.
Maybe, but in TFA they're running XPSP2.
Power spike conspiracy? Umm yeah. Here's what the XP BSOD looks like. Its real. Sheez, I never thought I would have to defend the BSOD on slashdot.
I love how the parent post is nothing but stuff 13 year olds would try in real life like snooping in on what the girls are saying and scamming dad for more allowance. What a perfect justification of the grandparent's criticism.
Sure, there can be many civil/tort cases from this. Its essentially public humiliation using private informtion from private people under false pretenses. Because this involves sex and bondage everyone is giggling but its the same as:
1. Starting a fake suicide help line and then airing the phone calls on your favorite morning zoo radio show, mocking the callers, and revealing their names and phone numbers.
2. Placing a personal ad for gays/lesbians then collecting their names, fidning where they work, and "outing" them to their boss, coworkers, and family.
I'd like to see a tort case ruin this guy so future "hilarious" jackasses think twice before revealing this kind of information. Arguably, if he went 10 seconds out of his way to not post the email addresses and fuzzy out the faces thus preserving some level of anonimity then he would be more or less safe. Like how Comedy Central can have puppets crank calling people, some of whom are answering classified ads for fake jobs.
>It's also only true because stupid users BREAK their PC's.
Starforce and other anti-pirating nonsense break my PCs. The PC gaming publishers need to lay off invading my machine with their unstable invasive software.
Its a meat market for the socially inept/anxious/whatever. I've only seen the things described in the article happen when a higher level male character gains interest in lower level female member. ALl thw downtime (waiting for raids, spawns, etc) allows for a lot of chat. So, this is just a case of humans doing what humans do best: mate.
>Instead of just adding more radio's, transmitters and receivers, when will we actually start seeing real innovation?
Err, MIMO isnt just adding more radios. Its pretty damn clever. Youre still only using one channel. Unlike 108mps channel-boding stuff.
>It used to be you could switch a hard drive running Windows 98, reload motherboard drivers, and you're running
I've done this a few times with no problems. Remove video, chipset, and sound drivers. Remove disk from computer. Put disk in new computer. Boot windows. Heck you could just remove the chipset driver if youre lazy.
>rd party apps is exactly what an OS should do
Shitty 3D drivers and hardware is not MS's fault. I dont call Linus a bastard because tux racer doesnt work on my old HP box. In fact, MS has done a surprisingly decent job of helping push out stable drivers with their signed drivers program. Their NT based products are actually pretty nice. The Dos/Win95 stuff, not so much. Most crashes nowadays can be traced to poor drivers or failing hardware.
Of course this ignores drm, wga, licensing, costs, bundled apps, etc.
It really was. Ive always was tempted to put him on the death pool list. Oh well, maybe Wernor Herzog will make an odd documentary about him like Grizzly Man. It would be fitting as Treadwell was just an Irwin impersonator.
I had a serious converstion about this guy to a female friend of mine after seeing grizzly man. Irwin puts himself at much more danger and it seems very irresponsible for him to do so considering he's a family man. He has a couple kids. Not to troll, but men like these really need to look at the long view of their activities. If youre high-rish you shouldnt start a family. Although im sure Irwin has made enough money to cover them, but they still wont have their real father.
>I, for one, welcome our new [jaw-propelled] insect overlords!
Damn cartoon cliches! Don't make me clamp you!
>mommy's little helpers
That phrase is about valium abuse in the 60s, not antidepressants which take 4 weeks to begin working. Mental illness is a real illness and youre attitude certainly doesnt help. You have a friend who is sick and takes a drug to normalize his moods and you're mocking him? Calling him doped up? Gee, no wonder he's depressed. With friends like you who needs enemies?
As far as the 'kills creativity' argument goes. Who knows. I think its vastly overplayed. "Art" created by people who are depressed or manic tends to be shit anyway. The people with real talent will always shine through regardless of moods. Tons of creative people have been treated for some kind of mental illness and they remained producive afterwards.
If the normalization effect makes someone say "I'd rather do this now" then more power to them. Not to mention, depression kills, I'd rather have a living friend than a suicide victim songmaker.
>results in the infiltration of your company's office such that your Intranet data (e.g., customer personal info, credit cards, etc) can be leaked out.
Sure, I've heard stuff like:
"Yeah, the company isnt doing so well, our sales are down again."
"We're going to fire so-and-so for sexual harrasment."
I've also heard of many social engineering attacks at places I've worked. You can still "leak data" with your mouth. Its easy if you try.
Also, its highly disingenious to pull the security card during a filtering argument. Its not that difficult to secure windows boxen. I dont think there are any popular exploits that work on systems when users are set to user not admin. Blocking content and saying, "Look we're secure" is a fireable offense imho for someone in security. A semi-motivated attacker will just call and say he's someone else and your web-filtered staff will happily hand out passwords and documents. No myspace involved.
>Why do people expect to be given free internet access at work?
They also *gasp* make personal phone calls sometime. Sometimes to the babysitter or their spouse! We must implement a whitelist for the phone immediatly.
Seriously, work is a compromise. You want humans to work for you, then be prepared to meet them halfway on their social needs. Or watch yourself get a reputation for being an arrogant boss and a 'fascist company.' Talent will never come knocking at your door and you'll be stuck with people who love or can tolerate harsh policies. People who dont use the web as the resource that it is, people afraid to make a personal call, and people who end up in a stokholm-symdrome-like way defending these silly policies. Not to mention how competitive is a company with these draconian policies? In my experience its crappy little small business with paranoid micro-managing bosses who demand hardcode filtering.
Also, professional work is rarely sitting at a machine and putting in x amount of work like a typical blue collar job. Its collaberation and social skills. Its finding out new things. That means you need tools to communicate. That means there will be slow periods and downtimes. That means using the internet with as little restriction as possible.
Also, there's a real difference between a technological and social problem. If someone slacks on their job because of the internet (or any reason) it becomes obvious after a while. If this happens its not because you lack a decent filtering system its because you lack a good employee.
Lastly, if security is such a concern, I believe very few, if any, popular windows exploits work when the user doesnt have admin access. A simple security change like this, which is something that hsould have been done long ago, makes the web very safe. Blaming poor security practices on the web is just being silly.
http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/series/Anaconda. php
Released Movie Name 1st Weekend US Gross Worldwide Gross Budget
4/11/1997Anaconda $16,620,887 $65,598,907 - -
8/27/2004 Anacondas: The Hunt for the Blood Orchid $12,812,287 $31,526,393 $47,026,393 $25,000,000
Totals $97,125,300 $112,625,300 $25,000,000
Averages $48,562,650 $56,312,650 $25,000,000
>Just who in the hell does MS think they are?
Maybe they think you can simply click on the right radio button:
Control Panel>Automatic Updates> Click Download updates for me, but let me choose when to install them, and click OK.
>This movie debut - 10 years ago = Complete and utter bust.
Naww. There was considerable non-blog based hype. The wacky trailers, word of mouth, etc. I think this movie would have done just as well without the so called internet hype. There's a great deal of over-estimation of the number and influence levels of 'internet people.' Seriously. If all the net-based hype refelected reality then:
Bill Gates would be serving his fourth year in prison.
John Kerry would be president.
Richard Stallman would be on television.
Churches would fold up because of lack of interest.
Anime would be everywhere.
Star Trek would have its own cable channel. Or two.
etc. The net isn't reality. Now Hollywood knows this.
>free energy would collapse some economies, invigorate others, bring about new business opportunities, advance the living conditions of people stuck in third world countries
Not really. Unless it could compete on price with gas, oil, or nuclear power then it will just be a curiousity. We already have various "free-ish" energy sources out there like wind and water. The problem is that they cost too much and don't produce enough power, thus tradtional power-generation wins out. These methods have specialized applications, but unless these things can seriously compete on price then they won't change the world at all.
Also, its worth noting that a great deal of poverty in the third-world is not a technological problem but a social one. Its not tech holding them back its their corrupt and incompetent warlords running the show. Money better invested in local hostpital, clean wells, etc then in getting 220v AC to everyone out there. Political incentives (slave labor, international aid monies) to keep people poor. etc. etc.
This is a leak photo. Its acutally not black, its a black and white photo because all the testing units are a different color so MS can track people who break NDAs. The headphones are still attached and their magenetic, so theyre sticking together in the photo. The final product will most likely be different.
>There's nothing hip or cool aboug having some music device from a giant corporation.
Because Apple is just a humble ma and pa shop down the road...
>it says WalMart-chic all over it.
Well, it should say "cheaper than an ipod" and "works with windows media player." It will also probably say "discounted when bundled with a new dell." You'd be surprised at the number of people whose first priority isnt "looking cool."
Frankly, the more competition the better in the mp3 player market, even if it is Redmond.
>Why wouldn't they want to embrace safety technology like this?
Same reasons as usual. Price and false-positives. If this is the same tech I saw a few months ago then it needs to be replaced everytime it goes off. So if someone is careless or if the machine does a false-positive then that machine will be offline until the safety part is replaced. Not to mention that part costs money.
I'd also be concerned about people in a hurry just "shoving a penny in the circuit breaker" to reach some deadline and never replacing the safety component. In the end I think these companies are going to ask themselves if this costs more than what worker's comp currently costs. A bit heartless but the guy who holds this patent isn't going to license it for free either. I'd love to see a world where everyone wasn't out on the make to become a billionare when it comes to safety. On the plus side the government is stepping in to mandate these systems and the saw companies dont have to use Gass's system, but I wonder if he (hes a patent attorney) will sue anyone with a similiar system.
It disguises itself as numberedlinks. If that guy does get a bad rep it'll be because of lazy people like you who cannot be bothered to read an article on mozdev before starting a witch burning.
Because slashdot is further degenerating into a kiddie site, at least more than usual with these silly taunts. Proper backups? Granted you can lose data during a power loss but power loss does not equal data center destruction. Oh well, Im going to check out whats being posted at digg.
How about some -real- stories? The "power is out" story is as old and fake as "cd-rom, you mean my cup-holder?" The real story here is that so many support people simply wear their job as some kind of badge of honor. This teenage mentality of "im smarter than you" is kinda depressing. When I did support I realized I probably had the worst job out of everyone in the company and wished I picked a different major/concentration/opportunity. Not exactly the smartest move. Oh well, maybe I'll hear about the lady who used her mouse as a foot-pedal too.