I dream of the day when users in mass numbers start sueing companies over things that are insiduously(spelling?) installed upon their computer. I paid for this storage space, cpu cycles, RAM, electricity, etc... small claims court, baby! burden of proof is on whose shoulders in such a case? plaintiff or defendant?
racist of who? the submitter for calling it "the land of the rising sun"? or racist of japan for not selling it abroad? either case, I think it's just you. However, I am not Japanese, so I can't really decide.
"provincial" might be a better term if the last is what you meant.
Then, VeriSign will ignore it and feel a subconscious need to start spewing about the "Communist" "11 September 2001" "Terrorists" who patch Bind. At which point they will automatically lose the argument and relinquish all rights to managing the root DNS.
We sure as hell don't need the digital equivalent of 9/11 to convince us we need to have a better digital infrastructure.
The first time he mentioned "9/11" I thought he was trying to use unsubstantiated fear. This above quote is the second time, and now blatantly obvious. There is no equivalent of a "9/11" in digital terms. Bits are not living things. Humans are.
Take the Internet if you want. Educational institutes would probably just build something better for their personal use, all over again. This guy is one petty jackass.
Did you see his attempt at a smile in that picture? It looks like something Mr. Burns would do on the Simpsons... A painfull attempt at a smile for the first time in 70 years.
How would gamers like this? gamers typically want superfast access to data on the disc, and don't care how the data relates to other data that might be on the disc, no? the only thing maybe good i can see about this is that of cached queries, but would that help any? enlighten me.
well thats part of the problem. they never identify who this "Marin" is before calling the lawyer an ambulance chaser. he could have offered a link or background info properly explaining the parties involved.
Does anyone have any backgroundinfo on this case? The statement linked to in this slashdot article doesn't give any good details. What I can gather is the spammers tried sueing this guy for "interrupting and blocking the Internet traffic of lawful businesses and individuals", "damages from blocking", and "Libel". It does not however say any of the things this person did to cause the spammers to sue.
This "press release" also seems very poorly written and not very professional. "Nor indeed will any spammers try suing us again after the very public fiasco Marin's junior ambulance-chaser endured..." So he's calling his lawyer who saved his ass an "ambulance chaser". jeebus. this guy is probably in ass in real life.
Obviously. But since when has the prevailing opinion of a majority been shown to be in the best interest of everyone? Just because you might want to optimize for the most common scenario (http) doesn't mean you can break other, typical but not most common, scenarios.
"what's so bad about the actual domain registrar doing it?"
Again, another person who hasn't read a thing about how networks work. It is this "regular joe end user" type of opinion that Verisign had quoted when trying to say that their actions were justified. Like everyone else who has even the slightest clue about the Internets network infrastructure, I'll say that the Internet does not equal the WWW. There is more to the Internet than just browsing the web.
If Verisign wanted to do what IE did, they could have released a "plugin" for IE, or any other browser, that offered their "service" on a software level, where such functionality belongs.
Stop perpetuating this "It's allright for me, why can't everyone else deal with it" attitude.
Ok, so patents are retroactive to the date filed. So that leaves 10 years (patents are active for 17 years, right? i forget..) for MS to enforce this patent which isn't very broad in scope. Make one minor chage, one different claim, to what they are doing and you have a new "patentable technology" or a way to circumvent their patent.
Sorry you have it wrong. I am willing to bet that in the end, customers will still be paying their $XX.xx per month ($49.95 for cellphone in my case, after i'm raped with hidden fees) instead of Really Really Cheap Prices for long distance and local calls.
Consumers won't reap the benefits of reduced costs, the companies will. And telcos will leverage their branding to take customers from what would be the competition. That, or telcos will be your ISP, charging for VoIP+wireless. I, for one, would welcome our "free" market competition... but i doubt it will happen to the extent that we wish.
Someone mentioned that cigarettes and alcohol are also legitimate but illegal to minors, therefor regulated by government. However, those are things that you must leave the house to purchase. if you are a parent of a child, the means to receive pr0n is right in your home and you have all the means to restrain its distribution to your children.
let's not make another law that unnecesarily impedes others without thinking about it, read US PATRIOT Act.
Why didn't they just call it "AOL.Lite" or something lame. Using the same name for different "applications" in the same industry is just awefull. They already had the AOL name recognition, they should have stuck with it.
The big question is, What will happen to Netscape the browser? Imminant death? A renaming to something which loses name recognition and the remaining 1% share of market share?
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I dream of the day when users in mass numbers start sueing companies over things that are insiduously(spelling?) installed upon their computer. I paid for this storage space, cpu cycles, RAM, electricity, etc... small claims court, baby! burden of proof is on whose shoulders in such a case? plaintiff or defendant?
Lego robots control my house, you insenstive clod!
In related news, SoBig is now touting itself as the worlds most widely used email program.
racist of who? the submitter for calling it "the land of the rising sun"? or racist of japan for not selling it abroad? either case, I think it's just you. However, I am not Japanese, so I can't really decide.
"provincial" might be a better term if the last is what you meant.
There are no plans to sell it yet outside of the land of the rising sun."
Good. I don't want my stereo, or anything else besides my computer, networked and DRM'd to death. I'm starting to not even want my computer networked.
Are they serious? LOL
I'm sorry, "LOL" has been copyrighted/trademarked/patented/ by AOL. Please edit your post to reflect this. I suggest "Are they srious? AOL"
Thankyou for your time.
moo.
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Make an RFC about it.
Then, VeriSign will ignore it and feel a subconscious need to start spewing about the "Communist" "11 September 2001" "Terrorists" who patch Bind. At which point they will automatically lose the argument and relinquish all rights to managing the root DNS.
I agree. Brew your own beer. Your allowed up to something like 300 gallons of home brew per year for consuming yourself and giving away to friends.
"Guess I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue"
Site Finder is completely compliant to standards that have been out and published by the IETF (Internet Engineering Task Force) for years.
...off to search for IETF Standards for domain name resolution.
Does anyone know what standards he's talking about?
We sure as hell don't need the digital equivalent of 9/11 to convince us we need to have a better digital infrastructure.
The first time he mentioned "9/11" I thought he was trying to use unsubstantiated fear. This above quote is the second time, and now blatantly obvious. There is no equivalent of a "9/11" in digital terms. Bits are not living things. Humans are.
Take the Internet if you want. Educational institutes would probably just build something better for their personal use, all over again. This guy is one petty jackass.
Did you see his attempt at a smile in that picture? It looks like something Mr. Burns would do on the Simpsons... A painfull attempt at a smile for the first time in 70 years.
How would gamers like this? gamers typically want superfast access to data on the disc, and don't care how the data relates to other data that might be on the disc, no? the only thing maybe good i can see about this is that of cached queries, but would that help any? enlighten me.
I assume MS will want this database to be a machine/group of machines under their control, someplace on their network, where they control "your" data.
well thats part of the problem. they never identify who this "Marin" is before calling the lawyer an ambulance chaser. he could have offered a link or background info properly explaining the parties involved.
Does anyone have any backgroundinfo on this case? The statement linked to in this slashdot article doesn't give any good details. What I can gather is the spammers tried sueing this guy for "interrupting and blocking the Internet
traffic of lawful businesses and individuals", "damages from blocking", and "Libel". It does not however say any of the things this person did to cause the spammers to sue.
This "press release" also seems very poorly written and not very professional. "Nor indeed will any spammers try suing us again after the very public fiasco Marin's junior ambulance-chaser endured..." So he's calling his lawyer who saved his ass an "ambulance chaser". jeebus. this guy is probably in ass in real life.
They are married.
(hey, if SCO can spread unsubstantiated rumors, so can I)
Obviously. But since when has the prevailing opinion of a majority been shown to be in the best interest of everyone? Just because you might want to optimize for the most common scenario (http) doesn't mean you can break other, typical but not most common, scenarios.
"what's so bad about the actual domain registrar doing it?"
Again, another person who hasn't read a thing about how networks work. It is this "regular joe end user" type of opinion that Verisign had quoted when trying to say that their actions were justified. Like everyone else who has even the slightest clue about the Internets network infrastructure, I'll say that the Internet does not equal the WWW. There is more to the Internet than just browsing the web.
If Verisign wanted to do what IE did, they could have released a "plugin" for IE, or any other browser, that offered their "service" on a software level, where such functionality belongs.
Stop perpetuating this "It's allright for me, why can't everyone else deal with it" attitude.
It's only confusing if you didn't read past the first handfull of words.
Ok, so patents are retroactive to the date filed. So that leaves 10 years (patents are active for 17 years, right? i forget..) for MS to enforce this patent which isn't very broad in scope. Make one minor chage, one different claim, to what they are doing and you have a new "patentable technology" or a way to circumvent their patent.
Just innovate beyond their innovation.
Sorry you have it wrong. I am willing to bet that in the end, customers will still be paying their $XX.xx per month ($49.95 for cellphone in my case, after i'm raped with hidden fees) instead of Really Really Cheap Prices for long distance and local calls.
Consumers won't reap the benefits of reduced costs, the companies will. And telcos will leverage their branding to take customers from what would be the competition. That, or telcos will be your ISP, charging for VoIP+wireless. I, for one, would welcome our "free" market competition... but i doubt it will happen to the extent that we wish.
Someone mentioned that cigarettes and alcohol are also legitimate but illegal to minors, therefor regulated by government. However, those are things that you must leave the house to purchase. if you are a parent of a child, the means to receive pr0n is right in your home and you have all the means to restrain its distribution to your children.
let's not make another law that unnecesarily impedes others without thinking about it, read US PATRIOT Act.
Why didn't they just call it "AOL.Lite" or something lame. Using the same name for different "applications" in the same industry is just awefull. They already had the AOL name recognition, they should have stuck with it.
The big question is, What will happen to Netscape the browser? Imminant death? A renaming to something which loses name recognition and the remaining 1% share of market share?
I use the command prompt, you insensitive clod.