Right. Lets kill the civilians because they like it when civilians die and we hate it... that doesn't make much sense. A moral code only works if you always follow it, and it saddens my to see how quickly America drops theirs.
As for the terrorists being considered martyrs by their people, well as far as I'm concerned, we will obliterate the very people that would consider these terrorists martyrs
Yes... lets kill those damn civillians. That'll teach them never to mess with the United "We are Freedom" States of America. Let's take away their choice to have beliefs, because their beliefs are WRONG! Hell, why don't we just run jumbo jets into their embassies... or would that bear too striking a resemblance to the attack itself?
If you want to kill civillians then you are no better then the terrorists... so does that mean we should kill you too?
How amazingly unhuman of you sir! Jon may have very well lost one of his dearest friends and may even be in a state of shock, and here you are flaming him. You, sir, are the disgusting one.
Jon I am sorry for your potential loss, and my thoughts go out to you.
Don't be too quick to crucify the governments actions. Just because Elz may have had some good policies, doesn't mean this change will be bad. Especially if it speeds up the assigning of domains. Face it, we can't really regulate who gets a domain anymore... besides, do we really want to? That would seem rather elitist of us...
Also, it is quite possible that this company will do good for the.au domain, so lets not judge until we see some results... then we can raise hell... I promise;)
Odd I'm using RC1 of XP combined with XOSL (eXtended operating system loader) and have encountered no problems with XP. ------------------------------------
It should be mentioned that Outlook XP will complete block.BAT and other 'dangerous' extensions, While this is annoying, it does protect the user. In other words, if people had Outlook XP the virus wouldn't be spreading (not that I'm plugging XP here). ------------------------------------
Really, I found that the miniseries was quite understandable. It had a clear plot, the actors were alright and the special effects were done quite amazingly for a TV miniseries. Also, I dont understand how that could possibly have been told in two hours. For the record, I haven't read the book. ------------------------------------
I mean really... It's not like software can be innovative or original! I mean, hell, next they'll be handing out patents for drugs and teaching mechanisma! I mean how dumb is that, It's not like it actually took some one considerable time and money to develop a product! ------------------------------------
No worries, I didn't think you were flaming. And you are probably right, the GPL is one of the (if not the) best open source liscences around, especially for its enforcement clause. It is a shame that it hasn't been tested in court, and, due to the nature of Closed Source Apps, it is very difficult to tell if any use Open code. ------------------------------------
Wow. Thank you. You make my point. No one forces the GPL down peoples throat but you seem very much in favour of it working that way! Yes the GPL is good, not because it is the GPL, but because of what it stands for. Still, at what point does a derrivitive work become an original? ------------------------------------
Yes, but not everyone is as nice as us. Hell, one could extend that analogy and say not all work should be paid for because some work benefits society... Better yet, shall we have forced volunteer hours for all adults? ------------------------------------
Ahh but you miss my point. I do not flame you or your views. I merely state that there is ample reason why to someone the GPL is unsuitable and a propreitary liscence is. The same way that there are valid reasons for music and books not to be distributed as "open source" ------------------------------------
But, what if you want something to be free for non-corporate users and you want said users to be able to modify your source for their own personal use. You do not, however want corporate companies to use it without cost. You also wish to reserve the right to repackage/extend the source at a later date into a proprietary product.
Is this not reason to not use the GPL? ------------------------------------
Even Canada is far better than the U.S. The first network (atleast in North America) to air the word Fuck, was the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, a government funded station. Another example. CTV, another national network, has aired uncut episodes of the Soprano as well as female nudity. Also, last night I tuned into VTV (vancouver television) to see the uncut showing of Nell. The point? America is pretty bad when it comes to censorship, especially since not all shows are treated equally ------------------------------------
The strength of GPL is that you cannot do it without getting yourself into a trouble. If you are making a product you will have competitors and they will find out and sue you.
GPL doesn't restrict the use - only the distribution. It is only restrictive when the restriction can actually be enforced
Very good, you can't pirate GPL'd code without getting into legal trouble (that is, once you're found out...). Now then, Napster is different how? Oh yeah, RIAA isn't going after individual users... that's pretty nice of them considering the large scale infringement that's occuring. Would the GPL be so forgiving?
Also, would you support the RIAA if they went after individuals? Would you support RMS if he went after a GPL violator? The point is, regardless of how the RIAA works, you have to fight them fairly if you want to win. Tech users don't make up the majority of the world... people who follow laws do. ------------------------------------
That's all right, we all have bad days;). Yeah, there are a few updates out there, atleast they are easy to apply (that said, i here getting RedHat updated is hell.... but then again updating Debian is easy). And yeah it can misbehave at times. That said, I'm having a hell of a time have the Debian installler to even recognize one of three network cards i've tried using (and i know i've used one before to install). Ah well, such is life. ------------------------------------
Actually yes, Win2k does have an adequate core dump. I knew the crash's were caused by bad drivers both from the blue screen message (I can't remmeber it, it was so long ago) as well as the fact the updating the drivers solved all my problems.
You are right, however, that many competitors have been squashed, but, unfortunately, that's bussiness.
BTW, have you used 2k? ------------------------------------
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Right. Lets kill the civilians because they like it when civilians die and we hate it... that doesn't make much sense. A moral code only works if you always follow it, and it saddens my to see how quickly America drops theirs.
As for the terrorists being considered martyrs by their people, well as far as I'm concerned, we will obliterate the very people that would consider these terrorists martyrs
Yes... lets kill those damn civillians. That'll teach them never to mess with the United "We are Freedom" States of America. Let's take away their choice to have beliefs, because their beliefs are WRONG! Hell, why don't we just run jumbo jets into their embassies... or would that bear too striking a resemblance to the attack itself?
If you want to kill civillians then you are no better then the terrorists... so does that mean we should kill you too?
How amazingly unhuman of you sir! Jon may have very well lost one of his dearest friends and may even be in a state of shock, and here you are flaming him. You, sir, are the disgusting one.
Jon I am sorry for your potential loss, and my thoughts go out to you.
No, no... we need it to replicate Tea... Earl Grey... Hot.
Just think... there'd still be an opt out option, but damn if you don't have to overcome a one hell of a repulsion to click it.
Don't be too quick to crucify the governments actions. Just because Elz may have had some good policies, doesn't mean this change will be bad. Especially if it speeds up the assigning of domains. Face it, we can't really regulate who gets a domain anymore... besides, do we really want to? That would seem rather elitist of us...
.au domain, so lets not judge until we see some results... then we can raise hell... I promise ;)
Also, it is quite possible that this company will do good for the
Well put. What I've been wondering is whether this astroturfing constitutes fraud...
Odd I'm using RC1 of XP combined with XOSL (eXtended operating system loader) and have encountered no problems with XP.
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It should be mentioned that Outlook XP will complete block .BAT and other 'dangerous' extensions, While this is annoying, it does protect the user. In other words, if people had Outlook XP the virus wouldn't be spreading (not that I'm plugging XP here).
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Really, I found that the miniseries was quite understandable. It had a clear plot, the actors were alright and the special effects were done quite amazingly for a TV miniseries. Also, I dont understand how that could possibly have been told in two hours. For the record, I haven't read the book.
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Of course you'll still need a CD key to initially install... then you'll need to activate...
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I mean really... It's not like software can be innovative or original! I mean, hell, next they'll be handing out patents for drugs and teaching mechanisma! I mean how dumb is that, It's not like it actually took some one considerable time and money to develop a product!
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except that final fantasy denotes a temination while neverending denotes continuation...- ---
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that's dumb ;)
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No worries, I didn't think you were flaming. And you are probably right, the GPL is one of the (if not the) best open source liscences around, especially for its enforcement clause. It is a shame that it hasn't been tested in court, and, due to the nature of Closed Source Apps, it is very difficult to tell if any use Open code.
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ie: Is windows2000 a derivitive of DOS?
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Wow. Thank you. You make my point. No one forces the GPL down peoples throat but you seem very much in favour of it working that way! Yes the GPL is good, not because it is the GPL, but because of what it stands for. Still, at what point does a derrivitive work become an original?
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Yes, but not everyone is as nice as us. Hell, one could extend that analogy and say not all work should be paid for because some work benefits society... Better yet, shall we have forced volunteer hours for all adults?
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Ahh but you miss my point. I do not flame you or your views. I merely state that there is ample reason why to someone the GPL is unsuitable and a propreitary liscence is. The same way that there are valid reasons for music and books not to be distributed as "open source"
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But, what if you want something to be free for non-corporate users and you want said users to be able to modify your source for their own personal use. You do not, however want corporate companies to use it without cost. You also wish to reserve the right to repackage/extend the source at a later date into a proprietary product.
Is this not reason to not use the GPL?
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Of course, The site is still perfectly functional....- --
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Even Canada is far better than the U.S. The first network (atleast in North America) to air the word Fuck, was the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, a government funded station. Another example. CTV, another national network, has aired uncut episodes of the Soprano as well as female nudity. Also, last night I tuned into VTV (vancouver television) to see the uncut showing of Nell. The point? America is pretty bad when it comes to censorship, especially since not all shows are treated equally
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Very good, you can't pirate GPL'd code without getting into legal trouble (that is, once you're found out...). Now then, Napster is different how? Oh yeah, RIAA isn't going after individual users... that's pretty nice of them considering the large scale infringement that's occuring. Would the GPL be so forgiving?
Also, would you support the RIAA if they went after individuals? Would you support RMS if he went after a GPL violator? The point is, regardless of how the RIAA works, you have to fight them fairly if you want to win. Tech users don't make up the majority of the world... people who follow laws do.
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That's all right, we all have bad days ;). Yeah, there are a few updates out there, atleast they are easy to apply (that said, i here getting RedHat updated is hell.... but then again updating Debian is easy). And yeah it can misbehave at times. That said, I'm having a hell of a time have the Debian installler to even recognize one of three network cards i've tried using (and i know i've used one before to install). Ah well, such is life.
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Actually yes, Win2k does have an adequate core dump. I knew the crash's were caused by bad drivers both from the blue screen message (I can't remmeber it, it was so long ago) as well as the fact the updating the drivers solved all my problems.
You are right, however, that many competitors have been squashed, but, unfortunately, that's bussiness.
BTW, have you used 2k?
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