You do realize that inphase actually has working prototypes. Turner is actually TESTING it allready.
Secondly, E-Ink is real. Sony has made a book like reader device with it. The reason you don't see it everywhere is because the creators (among Philips) doesn't think it's ready (speedwise they are improving still) but more importantly they don't wanna go all out until it has color. Nobody wants black and white screens anymore. Oh and yes, they are quite advanced with that aswell.
And Duke Nukem forever will arrive... some day : )
First off, let them rot in their own... yeah, well that and secondly, a third party is allready developing OpenDocument format as a plugin. (Was on shlashdot a little while ago)
If they are going to support it nativly people still won't have to switch : )
Gates is not a prior. It is far worse. Gates is like anubis was, half ascended, yet still among the living.
This origen nonsense has to be stopped or we all be doomed. The more little gamer minds (pun intended) they brainwash, the more powerfull they get. We must stop them now before it is to late. We need SG-1 to save our planet once more!
Actually, the default password used (for the root user) is random. Generated at each boot. So first thing you do is change the passwd. In CLI mode anyhow. (I guess you could always switch to an alternate TTY and change it in GUI mode)
As the graphical installer is still expermintal and just reached a v0.1 this can't even be concidered a bug, yet. Rather a missing feature. (Like first thing you ask the user is wether he wants to change the default livecd passwd or root passwd (which will be used later for the real root user).
or europe, because we have it here. Most places still have the last few yards all copper, but there are projects in various cities with fiber to your doorstep giving you 100mbit connections. ADSL 2 is allready promising 20 to 50mbit (allthough only in the first few hunderd feet of course, so it's not really anything special)
In this future, money would be in the replicator business. We'd go online to www.openrecipies.org, get the recipe for our favorite softdrink and try it.
Plenty of people who would experiment with new recipies as all it would take would be a couple of icon clicks and tada, instant new flavor.
And since everybody needs a replicator +supplies there's where the money's at.
Who do you think makes more money now, CD writer and CDR producers or MPAA & Co. (I know the MPAA makes millions more but it's the thought that counts here)
Well we al know that linux (or distro's) are more and more becoming click monkeyable.
And who can blame them. Setting up a descent linux server is nice, having it adminstrated is a nother. Linux admins are more expensive and hard to find. Especially the ones that actually know what they are doing.
Admins that know what they are doing however would edit a httpd.conf without a second thought.
What I'm seeing happening more and more is the click monkey's migrating from one click to the next click distro (counting windows as a click distro indeed).
Apache requires you to read the documentation and crack the httpd.conf with a text editor in order to change stuff. This ensures that you are at least one evolutionary level above blind, one-armed chimp, which is the only required level to use the mouse and click-click-click on the Internets MMC configurator for IIS. At a minimum, Apache web admins are *slightly* more talented than IIS admins
Um, bullshit.
I've been trying to teach myself more about Linux and Apache. And, honestly, I haven't a clue about half the stuff in the httpd.conf file.
Isn't that the entire point you are trying to BS? And you only proved his point. You read through it, and tried to somewhat understand what you wher e doing, that making you somewhat 'smarter' then your average click monkey. Wether it works right away is a entirely different story : ).
I still belive it's unfair to 'disable' the quickload feature. Why is it unfair you may ask? Simple. MS Office loads buncha crap into your memory too. (We've all seen it, a clean win install takes x seconds to boot, add office, it takes x+y. That after defragging!)
Especially in a school enviroment, where office is going to be started up repeatedly, use the quick load feature, that's what it is there for. They just don't cheat you if you don't want to use it, nor do they cheat you into hiding it.
For me, it bother me. At home I use 'Office' suites maybe once every month, so a 10 second startup time doesn't bother me there.
What a bunch of crap. I mean serieously. I don't care if you are an electrical engineer with 20+ years of pilots experience, or a super tester avionics tester at NASA, because obviously you don't know shit. (with 'you' I mean everybody that thinks it could interfere or the like).
Yes Wifi on airplanes is a reality allready, and experiments with bluetooth and GSM are on the way aswell. (Actually that article was 'pre' lufthansa's wireless service).
So seriously, lay of the crack, because obiviously it doens't do you any good.
P.S. Whoever felt offended by this post should have read/. in the first place : ).
Which can be great for coorperations who want to gradually move over. Say have photoshop while switching to the gimp. Have IE while switching to Mozilla. However it's not 'the easy' way, the 'works out of the box' way.
I belive the main two reason people use Windows are:
1) It came that way.
People buy or order a PC and what do they get, a PC with Windows Pre-installed. They don't know how to install anything else, they don't want to know how to install anything else. And I don't blame them. The majority of people shouldn't need to worry about that. That's what we have resellers for. They should offer PC's that are ready to be used out of the box.
2) Availability of Software.
Linux is a great OS. Software for this OS is somewhat laking behind. In coorperate enviroments, people need(ed!) Word. Thus they need windows. Also a lot of intranet pages need IE and thus again Windows is needed. Or what about Photoshop and etc etc. Then the homeuser needs/wants to be able to just click and run (pun intended) whatever they get their hands on. With or without spyware. (Actually, they wouln't need anything if the reseller has 'almost' everything they could ever need on there)
I read an article once, about Linux working for MS wasn't such a bad idea at all. Linux as the OS. Windows as the 'majorities' desktop. Kinda almost like what Apple is doing in a way. Apple's are great for the majority of people out there, that just want to 'use' their Computer.
Other then that the articel also attacks linux in general unrightfully. They claim that linux isn't ready for the desktop, that you don't have all the api's you might expect etc etc. This has nothing to do with linux. But with the distro's. They package the OS with Applications and create the whole enviroment. And I'm not saying they are doing a bad job at all. Comparing apples with apples. Not OS with the 'Windows enviroment'.
I think you are looking for something that uses e-ink. The only one that currently is out on the market is sony's E-book
I know Philips (One of the main minds behind it) isn't ready to mass produce because they want to increase the switching speed (from black to white and inbetween) aswell as adding color.
However I've seen them work, at let me tell you, it's sweet technology. It reads very comfterably.
they aren't so different, the two. The biggest part of the browser is, the rendering engine I would think. The rendering engine is also a big part of the mail client.
The way I see it, if you use both, install mozilla suite (without the chatclient etc etc). If you only need the mail client, or only need the browser, go with FF or TB. They do share quite a codebase. Now if FF and TB used the same dll's where possible, It would matter even less (afaik they don't just yet)
Anyway, from what I read a few months back, the suite will be FF + TB more or less. The mozilla org doesn't want to maintain two different projects if not needed.
As for stability, I use both browsers. One PC's i don't need mailclient, or webmail is enough, I use firefox. I use mozilla suite where I use both the mail and browser (90% simultaniously go check your mem useage suite vs FF+TB now!). And with 1.7.3 I can't say I have had a crash in ages. Then again, I haven't had one with FireFox as of yet either:) but must say I don't use it all that much.
So as final words, use FF if you only need the browser, use TB if you only need the mail, use Mozilla if you want both. As for appearances, plenty of themes for all 3. Even the same look and feel is possible for both, so that shouldn't be a reason.
P.S. I think gentoo users : ) will really enjoy a cleanly built suite without all those bloaty chatclients n such.
Well I've read people worrying about breakability and such with hailstorms. I suppose if you have a clear roof you allready have some kind of special glass?
Anyway, I was thinkin more the lines of having double glass, you know the isolation glass we use in europe. Two layers of glass with a vacuum in between. I suppose you want that anyway to keep the heat/cold out/in (depending where you live) So why not making your double glass with solar capabilites only on the inside. The outer layer could be that strong reinforced glass we all love, where the inner, thinner glass would be your solar glass.
Secondly, normal solar panels work even when there's no sun (cloudy day etc) So having all 4 sides coverd would always generate power, maybe less then the fully exposed one, but yet some.
Concidering that VMWare is a few hundrerd and Office with Visio, I would say a native Linux app could save you on some VMWare costs, and a free app. even more?
Besides, if you are using Linux and all, it would be easyer and nice to have a good native app, a lot of overhead and so, then again, nobody cares about efficiency and such anymore, we'll just get a new CPU + ram right?
Back in school you had to do your exams in the first few years on paper. And almost every little mistake counted.
I for one say 80 chars a collumn is a good thing. 'Documents' have a limited size. (paper size) so why not code (etc). Just because we can type unlimited doesn't mean we should keep on going unlimitedly and let the client handle wrapping...
I like 80 collumns (and would happily use 132 if that would be the new 'standard') because it is an easyer read. on my (x) terms in my vi in everything. I hate vertical scrolling. (I don't particulary like the way vi wraps lines either)
Just keep it at some 'universal' standard. 80 might be outdated yes, but a standard should still be adheared to to make reading easy.
Funny that you mention KY, lubricant's seem to be big in the US, as it's obviously very much so required : )
And you don't want to teach him how to clean his penis... prude american lol! Again, you want some hill billy kid with bad teeth, a smelly ass and dirty stinky 'athlete's feet'
Babies don't use their penis? they don't pee? Heh.. ok so even if they don't 'use' it, that doesn't mean it's not sensitive to pain. Just because they can't tell you that your bloody insane to do that to them, that they can't tell you to not do it, and they can't tell you afterwards cos they have forgotten doesn't make it not hurt or maybe be bad psychological or something. Maybe that's why american's are thought to be so crazy;)
And how can you say sex isn't better? How could you possibly ever know if all you know is to be circumzised. Only people that can really talk about it is people that have had it done afterwards, and what I've heard from people uptil now was that their sex life got better because they could make love longer, as it was less sensitive. (I dunno if that's a good or a bad thing, I'm sure you can make it last longer without de-sensitizing it)
Reminds me about something I saw on Nip/Tuck... the kid wanted to circumzise himself because his girlfriend was 'affraid' of his uncircumsized penis... social pressure, because (in america) it's 'normal' to be cut. Turned out the chick was a lesbian, heh. He regretted it afterwards, I think.
I'll repeat myself,
Because also young boys need to be washed.
I never had any problem what so ever, my parents first helped me, and therefor tought me, to keep my foreskin clean. Just as they tought me to wash my hands after peeing, wash up for dinner, and to brush my teeth.
I won't go into all o fthe above and start some major discussion but two things you should think about:
1) In europe only people with religious 'issues' do this to their boys. Nobody else really gets circumisized. So think muslims and jews really.
Can't say about africa or asia though, But I doubt that asians do it. As it did originate as a religous thing to do. (i belive it is said to return something to god or some bs)
2) I bet you chop off your hands too, probably put some pipes up your ass and removed all your teeth aswell, cos you clean all those every day don't ya. Is it so strange to have to clean your penis as well or is it supposed to be self cleaning while the rest of your body "needs" cleaning. If so, then really don't wanna see your ass, pewww. Or worse, what about all those girls, explains why american girls are always so stinky. I thought it was cause they are so fat, but now I know, american's don't wash! [/sarcasm] Not cleaning causes infections, we know this from all parts of our bodies. The penis is still part of our body.
To somewhat re-topic this off-topic part, the whole circumsition thing in the US is caused by the puritianism you guys got going on over there. I understand however how you feel the need to defend yourself as it's something you have been brought up with. But the parent was right on all his points.
just cos nobody does it doesn't mean you don't have to.
If I write software, I adhere to all standards. I'm one of those -Wall -Werror -pendatic etc : )
you gotta start somewhere, sure they should be used... atleast we should try. lousy programmers who don't adhere to standard, hopefully get canned sooner or later?
does this matter? as people noted below, it's only a container. and a descent player will not determin it's content by the extension.
e.g. double clicking in windows should open winamp and play the thing for example. wether it's video or audio. or wmp if that rocks your boat.
i suppose you are somewhat limited to opening the ogg audio and ogg video seperatly with different apps... guess you can always rename them to ogv and oga if needed to have seperate applications to open them.
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You do realize that inphase actually has working prototypes. Turner is actually TESTING it allready.
... some day : )
Secondly, E-Ink is real. Sony has made a book like reader device with it. The reason you don't see it everywhere is because the creators (among Philips) doesn't think it's ready (speedwise they are improving still) but more importantly they don't wanna go all out until it has color. Nobody wants black and white screens anymore. Oh and yes, they are quite advanced with that aswell.
And Duke Nukem forever will arrive
Ya know, TeamSpeak et al uses speex. It's not that unheard of.
However does your support it? Probably not.
So to get back to the original poster, speex would be great, but not a lot of people would be able to use it.
MP3 would be best for everybody to listen too, but ogg would still be best bw/quality wise.
You could as mentioned before offer 2/3 (speex and mp3) and also put a download of the speex codec for .
Do NOT sign that.
... yeah, well that and secondly, a third party is allready developing OpenDocument format as a plugin. (Was on shlashdot a little while ago)
First off, let them rot in their own
If they are going to support it nativly people still won't have to switch : )
I personally prefer gvim over vim : )
NVU btw isn't that bad either however if you MUST have a wysiwyg editor.
Gates is not a prior. It is far worse. Gates is like anubis was, half ascended, yet still among the living.
This origen nonsense has to be stopped or we all be doomed. The more little gamer minds (pun intended) they brainwash, the more powerfull they get. We must stop them now before it is to late. We need SG-1 to save our planet once more!
Actually, the default password used (for the root user) is random. Generated at each boot. So first thing you do is change the passwd. In CLI mode anyhow. (I guess you could always switch to an alternate TTY and change it in GUI mode)
As the graphical installer is still expermintal and just reached a v0.1 this can't even be concidered a bug, yet. Rather a missing feature. (Like first thing you ask the user is wether he wants to change the default livecd passwd or root passwd (which will be used later for the real root user).
or europe, because we have it here. Most places still have the last few yards all copper, but there are projects in various cities with fiber to your doorstep giving you 100mbit connections. ADSL 2 is allready promising 20 to 50mbit (allthough only in the first few hunderd feet of course, so it's not really anything special)
You all are looking at this from the wrong angle.
In this future, money would be in the replicator business. We'd go online to www.openrecipies.org, get the recipe for our favorite softdrink and try it.
Plenty of people who would experiment with new recipies as all it would take would be a couple of icon clicks and tada, instant new flavor.
And since everybody needs a replicator +supplies there's where the money's at.
Who do you think makes more money now, CD writer and CDR producers or MPAA & Co. (I know the MPAA makes millions more but it's the thought that counts here)
Well we al know that linux (or distro's) are more and more becoming click monkeyable.
And who can blame them. Setting up a descent linux server is nice, having it adminstrated is a nother. Linux admins are more expensive and hard to find. Especially the ones that actually know what they are doing.
Admins that know what they are doing however would edit a httpd.conf without a second thought.
What I'm seeing happening more and more is the click monkey's migrating from one click to the next click distro (counting windows as a click distro indeed).
Apache requires you to read the documentation and crack the httpd.conf with a text editor in order to change stuff. This ensures that you are at least one evolutionary level above blind, one-armed chimp, which is the only required level to use the mouse and click-click-click on the Internets MMC configurator for IIS. At a minimum, Apache web admins are *slightly* more talented than IIS admins
Um, bullshit.
I've been trying to teach myself more about Linux and Apache. And, honestly, I haven't a clue about half the stuff in the httpd.conf file.
Isn't that the entire point you are trying to BS? And you only proved his point. You read through it, and tried to somewhat understand what you wher e doing, that making you somewhat 'smarter' then your average click monkey. Wether it works right away is a entirely different story : ).
I still belive it's unfair to 'disable' the quickload feature.
Why is it unfair you may ask? Simple. MS Office loads buncha crap into your memory too. (We've all seen it, a clean win install takes x seconds to boot, add office, it takes x+y. That after defragging!)
Especially in a school enviroment, where office is going to be started up repeatedly, use the quick load feature, that's what it is there for. They just don't cheat you if you don't want to use it, nor do they cheat you into hiding it.
For me, it bother me. At home I use 'Office' suites maybe once every month, so a 10 second startup time doesn't bother me there.
What a bunch of crap. I mean serieously. I don't care if you are an electrical engineer with 20+ years of pilots experience, or a super tester avionics tester at NASA, because obviously you don't know shit. (with 'you' I mean everybody that thinks it could interfere or the like).
/. in the first place : ).
More informed slashdot readers should remember these articles.
Yes Wifi on airplanes is a reality allready, and experiments with bluetooth and GSM are on the way aswell. (Actually that article was 'pre' lufthansa's wireless service).
So seriously, lay of the crack, because obiviously it doens't do you any good.
P.S. Whoever felt offended by this post should have read
Which can be great for coorperations who want to gradually move over. Say have photoshop while switching to the gimp. Have IE while switching to Mozilla. However it's not 'the easy' way, the 'works out of the box' way.
I belive the main two reason people use Windows are:
1) It came that way.
People buy or order a PC and what do they get, a PC with Windows Pre-installed. They don't know how to install anything else, they don't want to know how to install anything else. And I don't blame them. The majority of people shouldn't need to worry about that. That's what we have resellers for. They should offer PC's that are ready to be used out of the box.
2) Availability of Software.
Linux is a great OS. Software for this OS is somewhat laking behind.
In coorperate enviroments, people need(ed!) Word. Thus they need windows. Also a lot of intranet pages need IE and thus again Windows is needed. Or what about Photoshop and etc etc.
Then the homeuser needs/wants to be able to just click and run (pun intended) whatever they get their hands on. With or without spyware. (Actually, they wouln't need anything if the reseller has 'almost' everything they could ever need on there)
I read an article once, about Linux working for MS wasn't such a bad idea at all. Linux as the OS. Windows as the 'majorities' desktop. Kinda almost like what Apple is doing in a way. Apple's are great for the majority of people out there, that just want to 'use' their Computer.
Other then that the articel also attacks linux in general unrightfully. They claim that linux isn't ready for the desktop, that you don't have all the api's you might expect etc etc. This has nothing to do with linux. But with the distro's. They package the OS with Applications and create the whole enviroment. And I'm not saying they are doing a bad job at all. Comparing apples with apples. Not OS with the 'Windows enviroment'.
I think you are looking for something that uses e-ink. The only one that currently is out on the market is sony's E-book
I know Philips (One of the main minds behind it) isn't ready to mass produce because they want to increase the switching speed (from black to white and inbetween) aswell as adding color.
However I've seen them work, at let me tell you, it's sweet technology. It reads very comfterably.
they aren't so different, the two. The biggest part of the browser is, the rendering engine I would think. The rendering engine is also a big part of the mail client.
:) but must say I don't use it all that much.
The way I see it, if you use both, install mozilla suite (without the chatclient etc etc). If you only need the mail client, or only need the browser, go with FF or TB. They do share quite a codebase.
Now if FF and TB used the same dll's where possible, It would matter even less (afaik they don't just yet)
Anyway, from what I read a few months back, the suite will be FF + TB more or less. The mozilla org doesn't want to maintain two different projects if not needed.
As for stability, I use both browsers. One PC's i don't need mailclient, or webmail is enough, I use firefox. I use mozilla suite where I use both the mail and browser (90% simultaniously go check your mem useage suite vs FF+TB now!). And with 1.7.3 I can't say I have had a crash in ages. Then again, I haven't had one with FireFox as of yet either
So as final words, use FF if you only need the browser, use TB if you only need the mail, use Mozilla if you want both. As for appearances, plenty of themes for all 3. Even the same look and feel is possible for both, so that shouldn't be a reason.
P.S. I think gentoo users : ) will really enjoy a cleanly built suite without all those bloaty chatclients n such.
pointers? POINTERS? don't get those poor kids started with pointers. They are too young!!
Well I've read people worrying about breakability and such with hailstorms. I suppose if you have a clear roof you allready have some kind of special glass?
Anyway, I was thinkin more the lines of having double glass, you know the isolation glass we use in europe. Two layers of glass with a vacuum in between. I suppose you want that anyway to keep the heat/cold out/in (depending where you live) So why not making your double glass with solar capabilites only on the inside. The outer layer could be that strong reinforced glass we all love, where the inner, thinner glass would be your solar glass.
Secondly, normal solar panels work even when there's no sun (cloudy day etc)
So having all 4 sides coverd would always generate power, maybe less then the fully exposed one, but yet some.
Concidering that VMWare is a few hundrerd and Office with Visio, I would say a native Linux app could save you on some VMWare costs, and a free app. even more?
Besides, if you are using Linux and all, it would be easyer and nice to have a good native app, a lot of overhead and so, then again, nobody cares about efficiency and such anymore, we'll just get a new CPU + ram right?
Back in school you had to do your exams in the first few years on paper. And almost every little mistake counted.
...
I for one say 80 chars a collumn is a good thing. 'Documents' have a limited size. (paper size) so why not code (etc). Just because we can type unlimited doesn't mean we should keep on going unlimitedly and let the client handle wrapping
I like 80 collumns (and would happily use 132 if that would be the new 'standard') because it is an easyer read. on my (x) terms in my vi in everything. I hate vertical scrolling. (I don't particulary like the way vi wraps lines either)
Just keep it at some 'universal' standard. 80 might be outdated yes, but a standard should still be adheared to to make reading easy.
Funny that you mention KY, lubricant's seem to be big in the US, as it's obviously very much so required : )
... prude american lol! Again, you want some hill billy kid with bad teeth, a smelly ass and dirty stinky 'athlete's feet'
.. ok so even if they don't 'use' it, that doesn't mean it's not sensitive to pain. Just because they can't tell you that your bloody insane to do that to them, that they can't tell you to not do it, and they can't tell you afterwards cos they have forgotten doesn't make it not hurt or maybe be bad psychological or something. Maybe that's why american's are thought to be so crazy ;)
... the kid wanted to circumzise himself because his girlfriend was 'affraid' of his uncircumsized penis ... social pressure, because (in america) it's 'normal' to be cut. Turned out the chick was a lesbian, heh. He regretted it afterwards, I think.
And you don't want to teach him how to clean his penis
Babies don't use their penis? they don't pee? Heh
And how can you say sex isn't better? How could you possibly ever know if all you know is to be circumzised. Only people that can really talk about it is people that have had it done afterwards, and what I've heard from people uptil now was that their sex life got better because they could make love longer, as it was less sensitive. (I dunno if that's a good or a bad thing, I'm sure you can make it last longer without de-sensitizing it)
Reminds me about something I saw on Nip/Tuck
I'll repeat myself, Because also young boys need to be washed. I never had any problem what so ever, my parents first helped me, and therefor tought me, to keep my foreskin clean. Just as they tought me to wash my hands after peeing, wash up for dinner, and to brush my teeth.
I won't go into all o fthe above and start some major discussion but two things you should think about:
1) In europe only people with religious 'issues' do this to their boys. Nobody else really gets circumisized. So think muslims and jews really.
Can't say about africa or asia though, But I doubt that asians do it. As it did originate as a religous thing to do. (i belive it is said to return something to god or some bs)
2) I bet you chop off your hands too, probably put some pipes up your ass and removed all your teeth aswell, cos you clean all those every day don't ya. Is it so strange to have to clean your penis as well or is it supposed to be self cleaning while the rest of your body "needs" cleaning. If so, then really don't wanna see your ass, pewww. Or worse, what about all those girls, explains why american girls are always so stinky. I thought it was cause they are so fat, but now I know, american's don't wash! [/sarcasm]
Not cleaning causes infections, we know this from all parts of our bodies. The penis is still part of our body.
To somewhat re-topic this off-topic part, the whole circumsition thing in the US is caused by the puritianism you guys got going on over there. I understand however how you feel the need to defend yourself as it's something you have been brought up with. But the parent was right on all his points.
just cos nobody does it doesn't mean you don't have to.
... atleast we should try. lousy programmers who don't adhere to standard, hopefully get canned sooner or later?
If I write software, I adhere to all standards. I'm one of those -Wall -Werror -pendatic etc : )
you gotta start somewhere, sure they should be used
does this matter? as people noted below, it's only a container. and a descent player will not determin it's content by the extension.
... guess you can always rename them to ogv and oga if needed to have seperate applications to open them.
e.g. double clicking in windows should open winamp and play the thing for example. wether it's video or audio. or wmp if that rocks your boat.
i suppose you are somewhat limited to opening the ogg audio and ogg video seperatly with different apps