Could be the real reason for those privacy concerns, and more power to them.
Yeah, maybe. But they give a pseudo-scientific reason for the ban:
The ordinance also mentions "significant health questions" raised about "increased electromagnetic frequently radiation (EMF) emitted by the wireless technology in SmartMeters."
Us 'mericans is gettin dummer by the minute. Why don't they just say that if GOD wanted your power measured, he would have created the meters with smarts already. It makes about as much sense.
Um, okay.In-Q-Tel:In 1999 we chartered... In-Q-Tel.... While we pay the bills, In-Q-Tel is independent of CIA. - George Tenet. I don't know about you, but if someone is paying all of my bills it'd be hard for me to claim independence.
Reply to: Mission to Colonize Mars Greatest Adventure? No, It would be a HUGE Waste of Earthly Resources. The Yield would be Nil.(Period)
Isn't that really the problem with anything we do as humans? In reality everything we do is a meaningless waste of resources. Everything, if you look out far enough, yields nil (well, except if we create strong AI). We just hate to admit it to ourselves.
I disagree with you about it being the greatest adventure though! It'd be the greatest thing I've ever seen!
...it'll be the corporations that name everything...
This just makes me so fucking sad. Everything in our future will be advertising. Imagine the golden arches painted on the surface of the moon, or a big Nike swoosh. I think for the most part that the future is going to be awesome, but this is the part that I don't look forward to. Libraries where advertisments line the walls. Public school buses painted not the friendly yellow that I grew up with, but with crazy in your face colors and giant logos. I guess I'm getting old.
No, a news organization can't have a view point and still be a news organization.
So, you are saying that there are no news organizations, and never have been any.
Original quote in context: No, a news organization can't have a view point and still be a news organization. Well, not quite, a news organization can't set out to have one and still be a news organization.
I see FOXNEWS has taught you well, young Dimedici.
...I have some awesome arguments about this with other right-wingers...
Some of them can't seem to evaluate the situation for themselves so they just go with whatever their media talking head tells them.
None of them can explain how the Internet is supposed to work, nor how companies are screwing it up, nor what net neutrality means...
...none of my liberal friends can think for themselves on several liberal bandwaggon [sic] issues either.
Sounds like you pick your friends based on their knowledge and IQ: if it's less/lower than yours they're coo. Either that or your view of yourself is over-inflated.
Isn't it inconsistent to deny this freedom to the companies that sell us these devices?
FUCK corporations! I repeat: fuck corporations! They are NOT persons. They have no right to free speech. When corporations become as big and powerful influence in our lives as the government - even more than the government - they need laws that prevent them from restricting OUR speech, and laws that prevent them from unreasonable search and seizure of US! FUCK corporations!
Well, go on then, if it's that fucking simple and obvious. Put those silly old philosophers in their place, what do they know?
There is no need, for Feynman already has!
"My son is taking a course in philosophy, and last night we were looking at something by Spinoza and there was the most childish reasoning! There were all these attributes, and Substances, and all this meaningless chewing around, and we started to laugh. Now how could we do that? Here's this great Dutch philosopher, and we're laughing at him. It's because there's no excuse for it! In the same period there was Newton, there was Harvey studying the circulation of the blood, there were people with methods of analysis by which progress was being made! You can take every one of Spinoza's propositions, and take the contrary propositions, and look at the world and you can't tell which is right." -
Richard P. Feynman, The Pleasure of Finding Things Out
I totally agree with parent. And I believe that this will be comparing apple to oranges, because for humans, memory is being tested, whereas for computers, parsing algorithms and expression tree implementations are being tested.
And of course, if the computer beats the humans it won't be *true* artificial intelligence because this is just something that computers do better than humans. We've always known this right?
The more that computers do that we used to define as artificial intelligence, the narrower the definition of artificial intelligence becomes. Pretty soon the definition of artificial intelligence will be carrying on a conversation about the latest General Unification Theory in three languages simultaneously while juggling twelve oranges and bouncing on a pogo stick.
So, yeah, censorship is bad in any form and I think the Chinese government is terrible in doing this but they do run things their own special way over there and censorship has always been the norm.
Gee, nobody's really said it to me in such a sexy way before. I guess it's okay as long as they have their "own special way." It is *special* after all.
Such stupid actions will only serve to discredit Wikileaks further.
Undoing some moderation here but I must say: BULLSHIT! The only reason the government and these companies are going after Wikileaks is because Wikileaks has dirt on them, and Wikileaks has credibility. Your statement notwithstanding.
It's about the past and from where I stand today nothing from any of the actions they have taken has changed my life in any way.
Don't fool yourself. The US is supposed to be THE paragon of freedom of speech. If this is the ideal (I'm not saying that it is), how are those other governments going to react in light of the fact that they don't purport to hold freedom of speech in such high regard?
Besides, I think that you just contradicted yourself:
I'd really like to comment on this but I afraid of the consequences.
Method for dissipation of influenza symptoms through prolong dietary restriction versus current methods of hypercaloric intake treatment of cold virus carriers.
CONCRETE:
Composite construction material composed of cement (commonly Portland cement) and other cementitious materials such as fly ash and slag cement, aggregate (generally a coarse aggregate made of gravels or crushed rocks such as limestone, or granite, plus a fine aggregate such as sand), water, and chemical admixtures.
Could be the real reason for those privacy concerns, and more power to them.
Yeah, maybe. But they give a pseudo-scientific reason for the ban:
The ordinance also mentions "significant health questions" raised about "increased electromagnetic frequently radiation (EMF) emitted by the wireless technology in SmartMeters."
Us 'mericans is gettin dummer by the minute. Why don't they just say that if GOD wanted your power measured, he would have created the meters with smarts already. It makes about as much sense.
Um, okay. In-Q-Tel:In 1999 we chartered ... In-Q-Tel. ... While we pay the bills, In-Q-Tel is independent of CIA. - George Tenet. I don't know about you, but if someone is paying all of my bills it'd be hard for me to claim independence.
Most congress-critters are fine, upstanding people; their biggest problem is putting up with the American people
I didn't know that members of Congress surfed slashdot!
Joke for ya: if the opposite of pro is con, then the opposite of progress is...
Reply to: Mission to Colonize Mars Greatest Adventure? No, It would be a HUGE Waste of Earthly Resources. The Yield would be Nil.(Period)
Isn't that really the problem with anything we do as humans? In reality everything we do is a meaningless waste of resources. Everything, if you look out far enough, yields nil (well, except if we create strong AI). We just hate to admit it to ourselves.
I disagree with you about it being the greatest adventure though! It'd be the greatest thing I've ever seen!
...it'll be the corporations that name everything...
This just makes me so fucking sad. Everything in our future will be advertising. Imagine the golden arches painted on the surface of the moon, or a big Nike swoosh. I think for the most part that the future is going to be awesome, but this is the part that I don't look forward to. Libraries where advertisments line the walls. Public school buses painted not the friendly yellow that I grew up with, but with crazy in your face colors and giant logos. I guess I'm getting old.
No, a news organization can't have a view point and still be a news organization.
So, you are saying that there are no news organizations, and never have been any.
Original quote in context: No, a news organization can't have a view point and still be a news organization. Well, not quite, a news organization can't set out to have one and still be a news organization.
I see FOXNEWS has taught you well, young Dimedici.
...I have some awesome arguments about this with other right-wingers...
Some of them can't seem to evaluate the situation for themselves so they just go with whatever their media talking head tells them.
None of them can explain how the Internet is supposed to work, nor how companies are screwing it up, nor what net neutrality means...
...none of my liberal friends can think for themselves on several liberal bandwaggon [sic] issues either.
Sounds like you pick your friends based on their knowledge and IQ: if it's less/lower than yours they're coo. Either that or your view of yourself is over-inflated.
Isn't it inconsistent to deny this freedom to the companies that sell us these devices?
FUCK corporations! I repeat: fuck corporations! They are NOT persons. They have no right to free speech. When corporations become as big and powerful influence in our lives as the government - even more than the government - they need laws that prevent them from restricting OUR speech, and laws that prevent them from unreasonable search and seizure of US! FUCK corporations!
What leads you to that conclusion? There is nothing useful about the DMCA.
Favorite $MEGACORP wins case. Must be justified. Case closed.
Well, go on then, if it's that fucking simple and obvious. Put those silly old philosophers in their place, what do they know?
There is no need, for Feynman already has!
"My son is taking a course in philosophy, and last night we were looking at something by Spinoza and there was the most childish reasoning! There were all these attributes, and Substances, and all this meaningless chewing around, and we started to laugh. Now how could we do that? Here's this great Dutch philosopher, and we're laughing at him. It's because there's no excuse for it! In the same period there was Newton, there was Harvey studying the circulation of the blood, there were people with methods of analysis by which progress was being made! You can take every one of Spinoza's propositions, and take the contrary propositions, and look at the world and you can't tell which is right."
- Richard P. Feynman, The Pleasure of Finding Things Out
ChromeOS: because saying WeKnowEveryThingYouAreDoingOS is just a little too cumbersome.
Remember 2006? We were ALL Time's Person of the Year.
2011 person of the year: Life, the Universe, and Everything.
I totally agree with parent. And I believe that this will be comparing apple to oranges, because for humans, memory is being tested, whereas for computers, parsing algorithms and expression tree implementations are being tested.
And of course, if the computer beats the humans it won't be *true* artificial intelligence because this is just something that computers do better than humans. We've always known this right?
The more that computers do that we used to define as artificial intelligence, the narrower the definition of artificial intelligence becomes. Pretty soon the definition of artificial intelligence will be carrying on a conversation about the latest General Unification Theory in three languages simultaneously while juggling twelve oranges and bouncing on a pogo stick.
So, yeah, censorship is bad in any form and I think the Chinese government is terrible in doing this but they do run things their own special way over there and censorship has always been the norm.
Gee, nobody's really said it to me in such a sexy way before. I guess it's okay as long as they have their "own special way." It is *special* after all.
China Blocks News Websites In Protest of Nobel
Why is the Man alway trying to hold China down?! Give them a break. They're just exercising their right to free speech. Oh wait...
Your comment made an article that was on the front page of the New York Times: Hackers Attack Those Seen as WikiLeaks Enemies
This, from the United States Ministry of Truth. We need to rename our country Oceania. Russia will be Eurasia, and Afghanistan will be Eastasia.
Such stupid actions will only serve to discredit Wikileaks further.
Undoing some moderation here but I must say: BULLSHIT! The only reason the government and these companies are going after Wikileaks is because Wikileaks has dirt on them, and Wikileaks has credibility. Your statement notwithstanding.
Perhaps Apple banned it because the photos are so horribly shooped
Shooped: pictures that have been pooped out by Photoshop.
The terrorists have won.
Drugs drugs everywhere a drug
mucking up the profits breaking my business plan
Do this, don't do that, can't you control the drugs?
For a great explanation of the idea behind WikiLeaks, please see this.
It's about the past and from where I stand today nothing from any of the actions they have taken has changed my life in any way.
Don't fool yourself. The US is supposed to be THE paragon of freedom of speech. If this is the ideal (I'm not saying that it is), how are those other governments going to react in light of the fact that they don't purport to hold freedom of speech in such high regard?
Besides, I think that you just contradicted yourself:
I'd really like to comment on this but I afraid of the consequences.
The first real infowar has started. Who knew that it'd be governments vs. the people?
ABSTRACT:
Method for dissipation of influenza symptoms through prolong dietary restriction versus current methods of hypercaloric intake treatment of cold virus carriers.
CONCRETE:
Composite construction material composed of cement (commonly Portland cement) and other cementitious materials such as fly ash and slag cement, aggregate (generally a coarse aggregate made of gravels or crushed rocks such as limestone, or granite, plus a fine aggregate such as sand), water, and chemical admixtures.