I would bet that quite a few/.'s careers started tinkering with these machines. Only used floppies or a tape drive. If you absolutely mad, you could score a 5 Meg hard disk.
Heck, I was power mad when I got my 16K cart.
Need I go on?
Now, there a better things to give a 3 world country than relatively cheap PCs. Clean water, food, and a solid education (and not one run by a charity with an agenda, either...) But, hey, Bill is just plain wrong.
Until Spore is released, give Primordial Life a spin: http://www.io.com/~spofford/
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I love this argument, because it's sooo liberal.
In short it's "Don't worry about consequences, we'll figure out how to fix them."
Now, don't dismiss it out of hand. The author is right - over time, people have solved some rough problems. The danger is getting fooled into it... for instance:
Don't worry about smoking, we'll figure out how to cure cancer. I'm absolutely certain that someone will figure out how to cure cancer. I'm also absolutely sure that cure (for lung cancer) isn't going to be in the next year.
So, let's take things a little more conservatively, and not spend our money before we have it. A little risk is worth a little reward - playing Russian Roulette is a dumb thing to do.
> Where are these "Christian" extremists exactly, > and whose embassies are they burning?
Eric Robert Rudolph? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Robert_Rudolph
Thing is, Christians have a lot to loose if they behave violently. A houses, food, families, cars, dvd's, friends. In short, Comfort. Now, if you start to see more discomfort, well now, I predict their will be a bunch more Christian acts of violence. Nothing keeps a society stable than a nice warm pillow and a full stomach.
Happened before (Crusades... others...) and it will most likely happen again.
Oh, and the comforting thought: considering there are a fair number of Christians with Guns, it'll be pretty darn bloody when it happens.
Don't get me wrong, Christianity is a wonderful thing! We would all do a little better to practice some of his better teachings! It's what happens when people get pushed to the limit that bad things happen, and it's all to easy to justify violence in the name of the Prince of Peace (or in anything else, for that matter.)
> Can you imagine what happens when this thing crashes? That is going to be one long restore...
Or when a power failure (or a cat) goobers your file system and it has to fsck. Journaling will make life a little better, except that occasionally journing FSes like to FSCK just for the heck of it.
Looks like Bush and Co. are going to cut government programs. You know, to keep costs down. Sorry, we can't keep giving you guys free groceries, we have a war to fight. Don't ever forget, these guys HATE social programs (well, those that aren't run buy a bunch of stary-eyed Bible thumpers who believe that the world is flat... but I digress...) So this war gives the ultra-neo-cons the reason to rape social and and other programs. Most people will say "well, as long as I'm kept safer, that's fine with me."
In the great state of Minnesota, the state has already closed a bunch of libraries. That's how insane this is going to get.
Now, don't forget, there is quite a surplus of $$$ going to your kind oil companies and the military industrial complex. It works for the owners, while we renters are paying for them.
Of course, when the Iraq thing (and Iran - looks like we're going to go after that...) settles down, there won't be social programs, and most people will have exactly the same lives previous citizens had during the happy go lucky days of lumber barons and the company store.
And what's funny - most of the neo-cons are running around with "Vote Freedom First" bumper stickers. Freedom for who?
Wow, now I understand how Plain Clothed Christians feel - you mention the Bible on/., and people call you a fanatic.
Interesting, that.
Luckily, you all missed my point: There are people who tithe 10%. Poor people. I'm talking about people living on a fixed income, trying to figure out if they should eat or buy medication. Now, they give 10%, which could very well kill them.
They are making a sacrifice. For charity.
Bill Gates could give away 90% of his wealth, and he would still be very wealthy.
In short, Grandma can give $100 and be donating a hell of a lot more than Bill Gates.
(As to the %10 thing - came up in my Presbyterian Church every pledge drive. That's the only time the minister became a fundamentalist. Frankly, I like the Unitarian way: it takes X to run the church, give what you can.)
> Why is this even news? Military propoganda is as old as military history.
Call me naive, but I really wish we could be judged by our merits, not by what some marketing flunky turned super spook decides to spew.
That's what I thought the US was supposed to be about - lead by example. Live a good life and be rewards. Others will want to do the same as they see you live peacefully and happily.
Moreover, I believe that I've read that's what we're supposed to do: reward good behavior rather than "punish" the bad via an OT.
Hmmm, perhaps another scheme that could be used are "OT" moderators - rather than get points to do anything with, they get points to mark comments OT. The meta moderation system could easily be used to keep these folks in check.
"And moderators, use those offtopic mods to steer the discussion towards the subject of the article, not the flavor of the month conspiracy theory about story selection."
Perhaps making the OT points seperate from the the total point pool? 5 Points, including OT, plus two OT freebies?
So, what about the First Poster? Could he get nailed? Seems like his was not to share info, but rather to actually crash the system.
Don't remember if he was A/C, but it's a pretty trivial matter to get the record of who he is (if the Sysadm of where he is located is worth a grain of salt.)
Reasonable test plan (clear and reproducable,) but not much theory. (Why was he running the untar? Is there a special feature of a file system optimized for tar? Would have been nice to see what he was trying to measure.)
Also, it would have been nice to see a run of iozone against the competing filesystems. Iozone (or bonnie, for that matter) is a pretty standard benchmark, and should have been included.
Finally, these are basically synthetic tests - it would have been a little more useful to see something like database access tests. One thing that quite a few benchmarkers ignore is the impact of the unit under test on the overall system: that sort of thing is more readily discernable with a application test.
It's funny that your message was moderated as insightful. While I certainly agree with you - it seems/. is filled with spiteful 15 year olds (or 26 year olds posing at spiteful 15 year olds), if the moderators were on top of things, it really should have been moderated off topic. (And, of course, THIS reply.)
However, what the moderators seem to miss completely, is all the "Ooooh! Ooooh! I'm obsessive enough and anal enough to point out that a message is a dupe!" Not sure why - maybe it's some sort of wanting to praise the good, and not punish the bad. Dunno. But I do know that it ain't happening.
Regardless, here's an obligatory url that we might all want to re-read: http://shirky.com/writings/group_enemy.html
So, seeing that more and more trolls are taking up residence in/., who's going to build the next cool thing that the in-crowd can migrate to?
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> When will I see a constructive article comparing and > contrasting the two and inviting a civil conversation > and an acknowledgement that there are fans on both sides?
Logical and Civil discourse was disposed of when Donahue aired. This is the new century, where the validity of an idea is determined by the loudness of an applause.
"Next on a very special Oprah, Bill O'Reilly and Dr. Phil make out."
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And if Python developers could code, they would be using Java.
Troll status, here I come!
I would bet that quite a few /.'s careers started tinkering with these machines. Only used floppies or a tape drive. If you absolutely mad, you could score a 5 Meg hard disk.
Heck, I was power mad when I got my 16K cart.
Need I go on?
Now, there a better things to give a 3 world country than relatively cheap PCs. Clean water, food, and a solid education (and not one run by a charity with an agenda, either...) But, hey, Bill is just plain wrong.
Until Spore is released, give Primordial Life a spin: http://www.io.com/~spofford/
I love this argument, because it's sooo liberal.
In short it's "Don't worry about consequences, we'll figure out how to fix them."
Now, don't dismiss it out of hand. The author is right - over time, people have solved some rough problems. The danger is getting fooled into it... for instance:
Don't worry about smoking, we'll figure out how to cure cancer. I'm absolutely certain that someone will figure out how to cure cancer. I'm also absolutely sure that cure (for lung cancer) isn't going to be in the next year.
So, let's take things a little more conservatively, and not spend our money before we have it. A little risk is worth a little reward - playing Russian Roulette is a dumb thing to do.
Well, DO you support your local PBS station?
Of course, if you don't, I'm sure NBC/CBS/ABC/FOX/CBN will air 'em. And, luckily, they don't have comercials, either.
> Where are these "Christian" extremists exactly,
> and whose embassies are they burning?
Eric Robert Rudolph? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Robert_Rudolph
Thing is, Christians have a lot to loose if they behave violently. A houses, food, families, cars, dvd's, friends. In short, Comfort. Now, if you start to see more discomfort, well now, I predict their will be a bunch more Christian acts of violence. Nothing keeps a society stable than a nice warm pillow and a full stomach.
Happened before (Crusades... others...) and it will most likely happen again.
Oh, and the comforting thought: considering there are a fair number of Christians with Guns, it'll be pretty darn bloody when it happens.
Don't get me wrong, Christianity is a wonderful thing! We would all do a little better to practice some of his better teachings! It's what happens when people get pushed to the limit that bad things happen, and it's all to easy to justify violence in the name of the Prince of Peace (or in anything else, for that matter.)
> Can you imagine what happens when this thing crashes? That is going to be one long restore...
Or when a power failure (or a cat) goobers your file system and it has to fsck. Journaling will make life a little better, except that occasionally journing FSes like to FSCK just for the heck of it.
It gets better...
Looks like Bush and Co. are going to cut government programs. You know, to keep costs down. Sorry, we can't keep giving you guys free groceries, we have a war to fight. Don't ever forget, these guys HATE social programs (well, those that aren't run buy a bunch of stary-eyed Bible thumpers who believe that the world is flat... but I digress...) So this war gives the ultra-neo-cons the reason to rape social and and other programs. Most people will say "well, as long as I'm kept safer, that's fine with me."
In the great state of Minnesota, the state has already closed a bunch of libraries. That's how insane this is going to get.
Now, don't forget, there is quite a surplus of $$$ going to your kind oil companies and the military industrial complex. It works for the owners, while we renters are paying for them.
Of course, when the Iraq thing (and Iran - looks like we're going to go after that...) settles down, there won't be social programs, and most people will have exactly the same lives previous citizens had during the happy go lucky days of lumber barons and the company store.
And what's funny - most of the neo-cons are running around with "Vote Freedom First" bumper stickers. Freedom for who?
Wow, now I understand how Plain Clothed Christians feel - you mention the Bible on /., and people call you a fanatic.
Interesting, that.
Luckily, you all missed my point: There are people who tithe 10%. Poor people. I'm talking about people living on a fixed income, trying to figure out if they should eat or buy medication. Now, they give 10%, which could very well kill them.
They are making a sacrifice. For charity.
Bill Gates could give away 90% of his wealth, and he would still be very wealthy.
In short, Grandma can give $100 and be donating a hell of a lot more than Bill Gates.
(As to the %10 thing - came up in my Presbyterian Church every pledge drive. That's the only time the minister became a fundamentalist. Frankly, I like the Unitarian way: it takes X to run the church, give what you can.)
Your rights: use 'em or loose 'em.
The Bible says that you must tithe 10%.
Has Bill given away 10%?
Same one on Wired: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.12/aqtest.htm l
> Why is this even news? Military propoganda is as old as military history.
Call me naive, but I really wish we could be judged by our merits, not by what some marketing flunky turned super spook decides to spew.
That's what I thought the US was supposed to be about - lead by example. Live a good life and be rewards. Others will want to do the same as they see you live peacefully and happily.
imagine a beowulf cluster of those...
Moreover, I believe that I've read that's what we're supposed to do: reward good behavior rather than "punish" the bad via an OT.
Hmmm, perhaps another scheme that could be used are "OT" moderators - rather than get points to do anything with, they get points to mark comments OT. The meta moderation system could easily be used to keep these folks in check.
Like your idea, though.
"And moderators, use those offtopic mods to steer the discussion towards the subject of the article, not the flavor of the month conspiracy theory about story selection."
Perhaps making the OT points seperate from the the total point pool? 5 Points, including OT, plus two OT freebies?
So, what about the First Poster? Could he get nailed? Seems like his was not to share info, but rather to actually crash the system.
Don't remember if he was A/C, but it's a pretty trivial matter to get the record of who he is (if the Sysadm of where he is located is worth a grain of salt.)
Reasonable test plan (clear and reproducable,) but not much theory. (Why was he running the untar? Is there a special feature of a file system optimized for tar? Would have been nice to see what he was trying to measure.)
Also, it would have been nice to see a run of iozone against the competing filesystems. Iozone (or bonnie, for that matter) is a pretty standard benchmark, and should have been included.
Finally, these are basically synthetic tests - it would have been a little more useful to see something like database access tests. One thing that quite a few benchmarkers ignore is the impact of the unit under test on the overall system: that sort of thing is more readily discernable with a application test.
"Forward" is Wisconsin's motto.
Now, if we can only get people to forget the feral cat thing...
It's funny that your message was moderated as insightful. While I certainly agree with you - it seems /. is filled with spiteful 15 year olds (or 26 year olds posing at spiteful 15 year olds), if the moderators were on top of things, it really should have been moderated off topic. (And, of course, THIS reply.)
/., who's going to build the next cool thing that the in-crowd can migrate to?
However, what the moderators seem to miss completely, is all the "Ooooh! Ooooh! I'm obsessive enough and anal enough to point out that a message is a dupe!" Not sure why - maybe it's some sort of wanting to praise the good, and not punish the bad. Dunno. But I do know that it ain't happening.
Regardless, here's an obligatory url that we might all want to re-read: http://shirky.com/writings/group_enemy.html
So, seeing that more and more trolls are taking up residence in
Bush, Hitler, and Jesus?
Reminds me of Sesame Street... "One of these things doesn't belong here..."
"Federal Judge Rules Against Intelligent Design"
:-D
Thank the Gods!
> When will I see a constructive article comparing and
> contrasting the two and inviting a civil conversation
> and an acknowledgement that there are fans on both sides?
Logical and Civil discourse was disposed of when Donahue aired. This is the new century, where the validity of an idea is determined by the loudness of an applause.
"Next on a very special Oprah, Bill O'Reilly and Dr. Phil make out."
> Christmas should be about having fun
/.! Tell Pat Robertson!
My God! The true meaning of x-mas, right here on
Me? I'd rather wait for VIM 9.