But that's just it, this 'terrible' OSX exploit isn't a remote root exploit. From what I understand, you must already have system level control of the DHCP server that machine is a client of, plus other requirements, before it even becomes a consideration. It's all speculation that it *could* happen, and that's enough reason for Apple to want to protect it. By the time MS gets around to a patch, IT staff all over the planet have worked 20 hour days to just stay functioning.
Now we're getting into 'what-if' territory, though. My question, and I'm not fully expecting an answer, is it really just a coincidence that the desktop OS with the largest market share also has the most *easily* exploitable vulnerabilities? 'What-if' Mac OS (9 & X) and Windows were swapped around. Wouldn't the ease of exploitation on the Windows platform still make it a prime target for those looking to do harm? Would Mac OS be plagued like our current Windows offering just because there were 10 million more users? I really don't think so, and that's because of the core of the system. How things work on the inside is much more to blame than being in focus due to your market share.
Car theives don't simply steal the most popular, best-selling vehicles on the market. Instead, they target the weakest link that is the most certain score. It's about ROI, I guess. I'm not going to spend my time boosting a single difficult car when I can pop 3 fairly easily.
Because a machine is a machine, despite what OS it runs, any machine could relay spam/DDoS a target host/spread a virus throughout the connected world...but why is Windows so *EASY* to do this on?
I agree, Apple does not have as large a slice of the OS pie as the entire IBM/PC clone busniess. And it's a shame that a superior piece of equipment isn't more widely used. But I feel the same about Ferrari...only difference is I'd hate to see the roads full of Ferraris each day. In contrast, Apple does have a larger 'workstation' market share than some of the big name PC clone makers.
Not a single OSX machine has ever ONCE been compromised to where it remotely granted complete system-level access or turned against a host to be used in a DDoS attack. The vulnerabilities found on the Windows platform are more frequent, more fatal, and much more easily exploited.
I think we're going to see a lot more sites like MyGlobalSound.com popping up on the web. What they're working for is a streamlined indie music exchange system, where 'new' artists can get their exposure without corporate backing. It is a great new promotions, sales, and resources platform for musicians. MP3.com once held a great position here, but has since been wiped, and this is the best replacement I've found. I think features like the War Room, My City, and Hit the Globe are way ahead of the curve.
That's great that they're paying attention to what IS getting shared and considering it a target market but...
P2P file sharing isn't necessarily a matter of people listening to what they would buy, but often stuff they WOULDN'T buy because they don't want to spend $18 on a CD and be disappointed by it's content. The fact that they downloaded it doesn't mean they inherently like it.
I agree that the user should only expect the manufacturer to support what they full well make claim to, and that any other mis/use cannot be supported.
While I do have a 3G 20GB model, I'm using it flawlessly with Mac and PC compatibility. Simply 'Restore' it first for PC (FAT32), then plug it into the Mac. Also, make sure to use 11 characters or less when naming the device, otherwise you'll get funky characters and no AppleScripts for iTunes will parse the directory structure, thus you will be unable to copy single tracks off the iPod.
Also, you can use Terminal to access your MP3s manually at/Volumes//iPod_Control/Music though they're not as well organized here as you'd think.
I don't see why someone with another MP3 player can't import their music with some other lame-o app, then import everything into iTunes. I'd rather take the time to make iTunes my music playing app than waste my time with an inferior product like MusicMatch or WMP. Do you spend more time synchronizing your music, or more time listening to it?
Been stuck in the stone-age with WinAmp2 and MusicMatch Jukebox. Come on guys, really, learn just a bit of user interface design skills! iTunes to the rescue!:D
...they're giving Apple 2 more years to further refine OSX and its features before they 'adapt' the features into Longhorn and package it as 'innovative'.
Don't pretend like we haven't seen this time and time again.
E-Scrap, Inc. has been at this for some time here in Miami. In fact, they just recently held an 'Electronics Recycling Awareness' event at the Museum. Similarly, they charge a fee for each 'donation', but in many cases it is tax-deductable.
...Apple adds a new feature to the OS, MS has to go back to the drawing board and figure a way to work it into their latest offering.
"Fast user switching? Damnit! Call in the coders." "Expose? Damnit! Call in the coders." "Quartz Extreme? Damnit! Call in the coders...and the pastel-loving artists!"
Many of the cars in the recent years dont even have axles, they have fully independent suspensions. Unlike your old Mopar and my T/A which have solid rear axles. For instance a Honda Civic would have 2 half-shafts...would it need 2 IDs? Or one ID duplicated on each? How about a Subaru WRX (4wd) - would it need 4 unique IDs? What about sequential number ordering? Who would delegate these IDs? The ID-IANA?
Wouldn't it just be easier for the population to use their right to bear arms and buy more guns? Thats one helluva theft deterrent if you ask me. One theif, one bullet...any questions?;)
Including rpmfind.net...search for a package and you get: This page is temporarily closed in protest against software patents. Websites may soon be closed down regularly due to software patents. Software patents can get you prosecuted for publishing texts you wrote yourself!
ahhh I need an rpm for gcc 3 to use glibc2.3 to use imagemagick!!
Oddly, that goes by the same name of a Spectrum Holobyte/Gordon Walton title, Orbiter. I used to play this for hours on my Mac Plus back in the 80s. In fact I'm sure I still have the install disks.
Sounds like DirecTV Broadband. Sometimes too good to be true is just that. They sure had the customer volume and the features, but at the price point they were offering they simply couldn't continue (or so they said). Wonder where all the extra cash flow goes now.
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Which is this, News for Nerds or Stuff that matters??
But that's just it, this 'terrible' OSX exploit isn't a remote root exploit. From what I understand, you must already have system level control of the DHCP server that machine is a client of, plus other requirements, before it even becomes a consideration. It's all speculation that it *could* happen, and that's enough reason for Apple to want to protect it. By the time MS gets around to a patch, IT staff all over the planet have worked 20 hour days to just stay functioning.
Now we're getting into 'what-if' territory, though. My question, and I'm not fully expecting an answer, is it really just a coincidence that the desktop OS with the largest market share also has the most *easily* exploitable vulnerabilities? 'What-if' Mac OS (9 & X) and Windows were swapped around. Wouldn't the ease of exploitation on the Windows platform still make it a prime target for those looking to do harm? Would Mac OS be plagued like our current Windows offering just because there were 10 million more users? I really don't think so, and that's because of the core of the system. How things work on the inside is much more to blame than being in focus due to your market share.
:)
Car theives don't simply steal the most popular, best-selling vehicles on the market. Instead, they target the weakest link that is the most certain score. It's about ROI, I guess. I'm not going to spend my time boosting a single difficult car when I can pop 3 fairly easily.
And no, I'm not a car theif hehehe
Thanks for the posts nberardi.
Because a machine is a machine, despite what OS it runs, any machine could relay spam/DDoS a target host/spread a virus throughout the connected world...but why is Windows so *EASY* to do this on?
I agree, Apple does not have as large a slice of the OS pie as the entire IBM/PC clone busniess. And it's a shame that a superior piece of equipment isn't more widely used. But I feel the same about Ferrari...only difference is I'd hate to see the roads full of Ferraris each day. In contrast, Apple does have a larger 'workstation' market share than some of the big name PC clone makers.
Not a single OSX machine has ever ONCE been compromised to where it remotely granted complete system-level access or turned against a host to be used in a DDoS attack. The vulnerabilities found on the Windows platform are more frequent, more fatal, and much more easily exploited.
I think we're going to see a lot more sites like MyGlobalSound.com popping up on the web. What they're working for is a streamlined indie music exchange system, where 'new' artists can get their exposure without corporate backing. It is a great new promotions, sales, and resources platform for musicians. MP3.com once held a great position here, but has since been wiped, and this is the best replacement I've found. I think features like the War Room, My City, and Hit the Globe are way ahead of the curve.
Anything can be compromised. We've seen it happen on paper already. How about worrying about electing better candidates in the first place.
That's great that they're paying attention to what IS getting shared and considering it a target market but...
P2P file sharing isn't necessarily a matter of people listening to what they would buy, but often stuff they WOULDN'T buy because they don't want to spend $18 on a CD and be disappointed by it's content. The fact that they downloaded it doesn't mean they inherently like it.
I agree that the user should only expect the manufacturer to support what they full well make claim to, and that any other mis/use cannot be supported.
/Volumes//iPod_Control/Music though they're not as well organized here as you'd think.
While I do have a 3G 20GB model, I'm using it flawlessly with Mac and PC compatibility. Simply 'Restore' it first for PC (FAT32), then plug it into the Mac. Also, make sure to use 11 characters or less when naming the device, otherwise you'll get funky characters and no AppleScripts for iTunes will parse the directory structure, thus you will be unable to copy single tracks off the iPod.
Also, you can use Terminal to access your MP3s manually at
What about all that "Windows users expect choice" mumbo-jumbo? Way to throw a boomerrang, fellas!
I'm also a fan of the SharkyExtreme monthly Value and High-End gaming system guides. You get both ends of the spectrum every month.
I don't see why someone with another MP3 player can't import their music with some other lame-o app, then import everything into iTunes. I'd rather take the time to make iTunes my music playing app than waste my time with an inferior product like MusicMatch or WMP. Do you spend more time synchronizing your music, or more time listening to it?
Been stuck in the stone-age with WinAmp2 and MusicMatch Jukebox. Come on guys, really, learn just a bit of user interface design skills! iTunes to the rescue! :D
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...they're giving Apple 2 more years to further refine OSX and its features before they 'adapt' the features into Longhorn and package it as 'innovative'.
Don't pretend like we haven't seen this time and time again.
...this won't get hacked just like DTV, DishNet, 802.11, and everything else sent through the air!
E-Scrap, Inc. has been at this for some time here in Miami. In fact, they just recently held an 'Electronics Recycling Awareness' event at the Museum. Similarly, they charge a fee for each 'donation', but in many cases it is tax-deductable.
...Apple adds a new feature to the OS, MS has to go back to the drawing board and figure a way to work it into their latest offering.
:D
"Fast user switching? Damnit! Call in the coders."
"Expose? Damnit! Call in the coders."
"Quartz Extreme? Damnit! Call in the coders...and the pastel-loving artists!"
haha
Many of the cars in the recent years dont even have axles, they have fully independent suspensions. Unlike your old Mopar and my T/A which have solid rear axles. For instance a Honda Civic would have 2 half-shafts...would it need 2 IDs? Or one ID duplicated on each? How about a Subaru WRX (4wd) - would it need 4 unique IDs? What about sequential number ordering? Who would delegate these IDs? The ID-IANA?
;)
Wouldn't it just be easier for the population to use their right to bear arms and buy more guns? Thats one helluva theft deterrent if you ask me. One theif, one bullet...any questions?
Including rpmfind.net...search for a package and you get:
This page is temporarily closed in protest against software patents. Websites may soon be closed down regularly due to software patents. Software patents can get you prosecuted for publishing texts you wrote yourself! ahhh I need an rpm for gcc 3 to use glibc2.3 to use imagemagick!!
...first post.
;)
See, the benchmarks weren't faked all along
Afterall, he's twirling one of those long golf ball retreival sticks pretty handily (heh). Or maybe the return of Chi-Chi Rodriguez?
Oddly, that goes by the same name of a Spectrum Holobyte/Gordon Walton title, Orbiter. I used to play this for hours on my Mac Plus back in the 80s. In fact I'm sure I still have the install disks.
Sounds like DirecTV Broadband. Sometimes too good to be true is just that. They sure had the customer volume and the features, but at the price point they were offering they simply couldn't continue (or so they said). Wonder where all the extra cash flow goes now.
...the top 7 replies basically off-topic? The real informative stuff is half way down the list (sorted highest scores first).
Besides, if Mac OS is Garfield, then Windows is Odie.