I just checked that my Moz takes 43Meg of Ram. Now check price of 1Gig PC3200 stick on Pricewatch ($117) and you will realize that for a delta of $5 you can keep it memory permanently.
I think this puts the Memory discussion in perspective. If you really need small footprint for real systems concerns. There is plenty of specialized browsers out there. Opera embedded being one of them.
Regardless of how assinine this is just disable the Referer in Mozilla and the problem is solved.
Type about:config in as url and filter using the word Refere. Once you see the Referer entry change the 2 to a 0.
Problem solved. It is problably a good idea to have this set to 0 i.e. no info given to site as a general privacy precaution. Why would you want to tell anyone that you just came from BigJugs.com?
MS may worry about linux in server space, but could care less on desktops.
Do yourselves a favor and read Clayton Christensen book about Disruptive Technologies.
Your comment,if true, is precisely the pitfall he points out in the Innovators Dilemma.
MS might be many things but the people running it are not stupid and I will venture they are deeply concerned about Linux on Desktop.
I just finished Fareed Zakaria's book Future of Freedom and he makes a point why it is that Programs never dies.
The reason is the Cost / Benefit of the two groups involved.
The benefactors of the program stands to gain a huge amount per member and as such is very motivated to Lobby and exercise Democratic rights for keeping the program.
The group paying (General Public) is large and the impact on each member is VERY small so they have little incentive to stop it through democtatic pressure. Result: No program ever dies.
The book is highly recommended.
Synopsis:
Democracy is not inherently good, Zakaria (From Wealth to Power) tells us in his thought-provoking and timely second book. It works in some situations and not others, and needs strong limits to function properly. The editor of Newsweek International and former managing editor of Foreign Affairs takes us on a tour of democracy's deficiencies, beginning with the reminder that in 1933 Germans elected the Nazis. While most Western governments are both democratic and liberal-i.e., characterized by the rule of law, a separation of powers, and the protection of basic rights-the two don't necessarily go hand in hand. Zakaria praises countries like Singapore, Chile and Mexico for liberalizing their economies first and then their political systems, and compares them to other Third World countries "that proclaimed themselves democracies immediately after their independence, while they were poor and unstable, [but] became dictatorships within a decade." But Zakaria contends that something has also gone wrong with democracy in America, which has descended into "a simple-minded populism that values popularity and openness." The solution, Zakaria says, is more appointed bodies, like the World Trade Organization and the U.S. Supreme Court, which are effective precisely because they are insulated from political pressures. Zakaria provides a much-needed intellectual framework for many current foreign policy dilemmas, arguing that the United States should support a liberalizing dictator like Pakistan's Pervez Musharraf, be wary of an elected "thug" like Venezuela's Hugo Chavez and take care to remake Afghanistan and Iraq into societies that are not merely democratic but free.
Isn't that possibility one of the biggest hopes for such software?
Absolutely and I agree with your position. My comment was more aimed at the original poster equating HP's contribution to IBM's.
My initial thinking was that IBM supports a much broader spectrum of current viable architectures and have contributed more general purpose SW, but on reflection I think your point is better.
Powerful Self-interest is probably one of the most efficient vehicles there is.
I hope Intel doesn't invent a PR system that deliberately uses bigger PR numbers than AMDs.
Come on, what do you think Intel will do. Deliberately make the number smaller?
They have no choice but to stay close to AMD or to chose a "scale" that is non confusable with AMD.
I think it is unlikely they will go 10x or so higher as a Pentium 50000 sounds silly and might even get them sued by some assinine lawyer representing class of Grandmothers that feel they were mislead.
They can't go lower. One or two digits will be confused with the Pentium Number itself. Pentium 7 - 11.
The hundreds series has already been taken by AMD. 140 / 240 etc. So my guess is they will adopt the AMD type numbering.
They copied the AMD64 aclling it IA32e, so why not tak the AMD numbering while they are at it.
If they do this they will force IBM to supply their own IBM-Linux (Or buy Novell) that will be covered by the Gadzillion Cross-licensing deals they have plus anyone that attacks will be counter sued for Patent infringement by IBM.
The "Best" MS can do it nible around Linux as is the case with the Paul Allen funded SCO harrassment case.
IBM-Linux is a nightmare scenario for MS. The only reason IBM has not done this is that they development process of Linux is performing well and IBM do not want to face some of the Patent issues that may be lurking inside Linux. By Lurking I am not implying that Linux has stolen anything but maybe a lot of potential SCOs is watching.
IBM knows this and that's why they will make an example out of SCO. SCO will not only be leveled but the fields around it will be salted. Corporate Veil to Canopy will be ruled broken and they will be forced to admit guilt and settle or face extinction.
IBM has actively collected Patents for the better part of its life for a reason. This is it.
Head on over to TheLinuxshow tonight. Starting at 8 Central this issue will be covered in details plus a section on how to complain to the SEC about MS' involvement.
If you take the trouble on filing a formal complain to the SEC you could actualy make a difference.
Second the MS antitrust judge Kollar Kotelly needs to be informed as well. What MS is doing is directly against her ruling.
As you know IBM has issued subpoena to Canopy about their involvement in the SCO suit.
If Canaopy can just issued SCO licences or get them for free then it is one and the same company. This means that when SCO goes bankrupt they can go after Canopy for whatever damages IBM / RH or Novell get's awarded and that the bankrupt SCO can't pay.
So AutoZone broke the EUALA of UnixWare and put some binaray UnixWare.so files into some other OS (that happened to be Linux) without permission from SCO
I'm largely a counterpart to Mr. Greer from AutoZone.
In case you do not know who Mr Greer is, read his comment on Groklaw. Summery: He was the AutoZone transisition manager and states that SCO is full of crap
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FYI, If you want to hire someone etc. demand OOo or no job
One suggestion is to install POPFile and Quarantine every file with an attachment.
I think this puts the Memory discussion in perspective. If you really need small footprint for real systems concerns. There is plenty of specialized browsers out there. Opera embedded being one of them.
Type about:config in as url and filter using the word Refere. Once you see the Referer entry change the 2 to a 0.
Problem solved. It is problably a good idea to have this set to 0 i.e. no info given to site as a general privacy precaution. Why would you want to tell anyone that you just came from BigJugs.com?
Do yourselves a favor and read Clayton Christensen book about Disruptive Technologies. Your comment,if true, is precisely the pitfall he points out in the Innovators Dilemma.
MS might be many things but the people running it are not stupid and I will venture they are deeply concerned about Linux on Desktop.
If this goes through they should substitute Earth for America for the very apt EOL moniker
The reason is the Cost / Benefit of the two groups involved.
The benefactors of the program stands to gain a huge amount per member and as such is very motivated to Lobby and exercise Democratic rights for keeping the program.
The group paying (General Public) is large and the impact on each member is VERY small so they have little incentive to stop it through democtatic pressure. Result: No program ever dies.
The book is highly recommended.
Synopsis:
Democracy is not inherently good, Zakaria (From Wealth to Power) tells us in his thought-provoking and timely second book. It works in some situations and not others, and needs strong limits to function properly. The editor of Newsweek International and former managing editor of Foreign Affairs takes us on a tour of democracy's deficiencies, beginning with the reminder that in 1933 Germans elected the Nazis. While most Western governments are both democratic and liberal-i.e., characterized by the rule of law, a separation of powers, and the protection of basic rights-the two don't necessarily go hand in hand. Zakaria praises countries like Singapore, Chile and Mexico for liberalizing their economies first and then their political systems, and compares them to other Third World countries "that proclaimed themselves democracies immediately after their independence, while they were poor and unstable, [but] became dictatorships within a decade." But Zakaria contends that something has also gone wrong with democracy in America, which has descended into "a simple-minded populism that values popularity and openness." The solution, Zakaria says, is more appointed bodies, like the World Trade Organization and the U.S. Supreme Court, which are effective precisely because they are insulated from political pressures. Zakaria provides a much-needed intellectual framework for many current foreign policy dilemmas, arguing that the United States should support a liberalizing dictator like Pakistan's Pervez Musharraf, be wary of an elected "thug" like Venezuela's Hugo Chavez and take care to remake Afghanistan and Iraq into societies that are not merely democratic but free.
For $400 a pop you would have thought they could have done this themselves.
I agree and on reflections changed my mind. See my answer on this threat to a comment similar to yours.
Absolutely and I agree with your position. My comment was more aimed at the original poster equating HP's contribution to IBM's.
My initial thinking was that IBM supports a much broader spectrum of current viable architectures and have contributed more general purpose SW, but on reflection I think your point is better.
Powerful Self-interest is probably one of the most efficient vehicles there is.
It was kind of a knee-jerk reaction to balance out the political aspect.
There is ignorance and ignorance. Ignorance as in "I do not know" is OK, what galls me is the "I do not want to know" variety.
Peace!
As distinct from the Religious Right, The Christian Fundamentalist and their ilk?
HP were betting at least half the farm on Itanic, when they canned PA and Alpha and they are pretty much up the creek now.
Their Itanic Linux effort is fine but 100% self serving, prety much nothing they contribute has an impact on Linux at large.
Come on, what do you think Intel will do. Deliberately make the number smaller?
They have no choice but to stay close to AMD or to chose a "scale" that is non confusable with AMD.
I think it is unlikely they will go 10x or so higher as a Pentium 50000 sounds silly and might even get them sued by some assinine lawyer representing class of Grandmothers that feel they were mislead.
They can't go lower. One or two digits will be confused with the Pentium Number itself. Pentium 7 - 11.
The hundreds series has already been taken by AMD. 140 / 240 etc. So my guess is they will adopt the AMD type numbering.
They copied the AMD64 aclling it IA32e, so why not tak the AMD numbering while they are at it.
If they do this they will force IBM to supply their own IBM-Linux (Or buy Novell) that will be covered by the Gadzillion Cross-licensing deals they have plus anyone that attacks will be counter sued for Patent infringement by IBM.
The "Best" MS can do it nible around Linux as is the case with the Paul Allen funded SCO harrassment case.
IBM-Linux is a nightmare scenario for MS. The only reason IBM has not done this is that they development process of Linux is performing well and IBM do not want to face some of the Patent issues that may be lurking inside Linux. By Lurking I am not implying that Linux has stolen anything but maybe a lot of potential SCOs is watching.
IBM knows this and that's why they will make an example out of SCO. SCO will not only be leveled but the fields around it will be salted. Corporate Veil to Canopy will be ruled broken and they will be forced to admit guilt and settle or face extinction.
IBM has actively collected Patents for the better part of its life for a reason. This is it.
If you take the trouble on filing a formal complain to the SEC you could actualy make a difference.
Second the MS antitrust judge Kollar Kotelly needs to be informed as well. What MS is doing is directly against her ruling.
How can you fight Terrorism with Hubble? We are at war, Remember!!!
PS: The "war-time" president has been on vacation more than any other President since Eisenhower.
As you know IBM has issued subpoena to Canopy about their involvement in the SCO suit.
If Canaopy can just issued SCO licences or get them for free then it is one and the same company. This means that when SCO goes bankrupt they can go after Canopy for whatever damages IBM / RH or Novell get's awarded and that the bankrupt SCO can't pay.
You might get a kick out of reading Twenty five rules to suppress truth. The url was send to me and others from Jeff at TheLinuxshow today.
Brought to you by DAMM (Mothers Against Dyslexia)
You are right but this was scap specific to the AutoZone lawsuit. If you read the Groklaw comment (Currently being /.'ed) he states:
As to the claim that SCO's shared libraries were a necessary part of the port is false. No SCO libraries were involved in the porting activity.
Or SCO is lying.
Read the comment from the AutoZone program manager. His comment was posted on Feb 18'th i.e. before the lawsuit.
Excerpt
As to the claim that SCO's shared libraries were a necessary part of the port: false. No SCO libraries were involved in the porting activity.
In case you do not know who Mr Greer is, read his comment on Groklaw. Summery: He was the AutoZone transisition manager and states that SCO is full of crap
When they say All the do mean All. Hence the need for 10M stations.