The GPL doesn't need to be declared an enforcable license
My bad, What I meant to say was the the terms of the GPL is upheld in court,
I agree with you and like your analogy about Network chip, as network chip mstters to some as they provide additional functionality and reliability but for most it's a moot point.
Wouldn't we just be better off with all these companies putting this money into Linux instead of lawsuits?
Over and above the fact that this is not an option it wouldn't be.
It's the same argument as stating we do not need advertising, packaging, etc.
Linux is moving from being a Solution to a Product. A product that needs to compete with other Products in the market place. This means that all the intangibles starts to be very important wether you like it or not.
FUD is a legitimate marketing tool used by alternative products and your Product needs to be able to withstand the critisism.
That is why we need this lawsuit, need for GPL to be declared a legal enforcable license, and for SCO to be silences (or better killed)
(it's more likely that he told SCO that they didn't have a prayer, and they ignored him).
He is on contingency so he must have bought into the program.
Quote:
SCO warned in a filing that its legal costs could be expensive, but the company revealed Wednesday that it doesn't have to bear the brunt of much of its legal costs. To pursue its case against IBM, SCO hired high-profile attorney David Boies--famed for his antitrust victory over Microsoft as well as his loss in the vote-counting controversy representing Al Gore in the 2000 presidential election.
SCO's legal costs are being paid under a contingency arrangement, McBride said. In such cases, lawyers typically are paid not by the hour but with a percentage of whatever money they can win for their clients in the case.
Underlying your post is the idea that if the GPL or parts of it is held to be uninforceable then it's a Free for all of some kind.
This is not the case. The copyright will revert back to the original holders that then can decide what to do. Most likely the GPL will be amended taking into account the Legal ruling (after appeals etc) and the original copyright holdes can then choose to release under new-GPL
Second, the people contacting Attorney General should be the folks that has supplied code to the 2.4 or earlier Kernel.
4. You may not copy, modify, sublicense, or distribute the Program except as expressly provided under this License. Any attempt otherwise to copy, modify, sublicense or distribute the Program is void, and will automatically terminate your rights under this License. However, parties who have received copies, or rights, from you under this License will not have their licenses terminated so long as such parties remain in full compliance.
Maybe we could get a lawyer to make a Template / model on what to file.
My suggestion would be to buy a boxed RH distribution and use that to force SCO to reveal code or get a "clean bill of health" from a US court, even a small court carries weight since it will be the first "ruling" on this issue.
Let's say 500 different claims get's filed SCO is pretty much unable to respond.
Since Sun is covered according to SCO/ Sun why license from Sun and recomplie the kernel for your servers from the Sun source if your PHB is worried about SCO's FUD?
You might even make a case for OpenOffice/ StarOffice internally while you are at it.
Even better let me suggest that anyone that still uses Unixware (The three of you know who you are) put payment to SCO in escrow pending outcome of IBM suit.
There is equally good chance that GPL code found it's way into Unixware that the reverse.
We as a group can do nothing better to kill off SCO that to choke their cashflow.
until we have viable replacements to programs in the user space, a part of any Linux adoption policy will always be hostage to Microsoft and its tactics
I think you are only partly right. Users of any application have different needs, from very rudementary capabilities to the most esoteric. Disney falls in the latter category.
By using Wine etc. anyone can use Linux on the desktop regardless of where on this curve they find themselves.
The Linux native application programs can gracefully improve and anyone can make the switch when the OSS version meets their needs.
It uses very simple math to explain the various heuristics that can be used in Math solutions. The book is right up there for Math what Feynman's lecture is for Physics.
40 Years later is it still required reading for first year MIT students.
Just because Christoph worked for Caldera doesn't mean any work he did on the kernel for adding JFS was supported by Caldera
Keep in mind that the SCO suit against IBM is based on Trade-Secrets. SCO has a duty to protect it and once out it is, in the eyes of the court, no longer considered a trade-secret.
They may then have a case against the Christoph but the suit as it stands today is pretty much shot.
Not really, the issue is removal of MS' ability to control and co-opt standards. Getting Joe Simian is just a mean to that objective, maybe the only way to ever achive that end.
If other avenues opens. Example Federal edict to use Open Standards most Linux users couldn't give a rat's ass about Joe.
Caveat is delta cost to Government of MS Tax as it is a cost to everyone.
Excellent point, I made the same when I signed the MoveOn
partition asking Congress to look into this.
If you remember MoveON started as a movement with the purpose of lobbying for maybe there is more important things in this world tha a Presidential Blowjob.
They recently held the first Internet Prmary that gave Dean the top spot. Now this.
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My bad, What I meant to say was the the terms of the GPL is upheld in court,
I agree with you and like your analogy about Network chip, as network chip mstters to some as they provide additional functionality and reliability but for most it's a moot point.
Over and above the fact that this is not an option it wouldn't be.
It's the same argument as stating we do not need advertising, packaging, etc.
Linux is moving from being a Solution to a Product. A product that needs to compete with other Products in the market place. This means that all the intangibles starts to be very important wether you like it or not.
FUD is a legitimate marketing tool used by alternative products and your Product needs to be able to withstand the critisism.
That is why we need this lawsuit, need for GPL to be declared a legal enforcable license, and for SCO to be silences (or better killed)
He is on contingency so he must have bought into the program.
Quote:
SCO warned in a filing that its legal costs could be expensive, but the company revealed Wednesday that it doesn't have to bear the brunt of much of its legal costs. To pursue its case against IBM, SCO hired high-profile attorney David Boies--famed for his antitrust victory over Microsoft as well as his loss in the vote-counting controversy representing Al Gore in the 2000 presidential election.
SCO's legal costs are being paid under a contingency arrangement, McBride said. In such cases, lawyers typically are paid not by the hour but with a percentage of whatever money they can win for their clients in the case.
This is not the case. The copyright will revert back to the original holders that then can decide what to do. Most likely the GPL will be amended taking into account the Legal ruling (after appeals etc) and the original copyright holdes can then choose to release under new-GPL
Second, the people contacting Attorney General should be the folks that has supplied code to the 2.4 or earlier Kernel.
4. You may not copy, modify, sublicense, or distribute the Program except as expressly provided under this License. Any attempt otherwise to copy, modify, sublicense or distribute the Program is void, and will automatically terminate your rights under this License. However, parties who have received copies, or rights, from you under this License will not have their licenses terminated so long as such parties remain in full compliance.
Get it for $11 at Amazon and still avoid the sunshine
My suggestion would be to buy a boxed RH distribution and use that to force SCO to reveal code or get a "clean bill of health" from a US court, even a small court carries weight since it will be the first "ruling" on this issue.
Let's say 500 different claims get's filed SCO is pretty much unable to respond.
We get AllSorts of comments on slashdot,
Ellison No Longer board member of Apple.
It repeats the same unsubstantiated allegations made in Red Hat's filing earlier this week
How does one grow balls that size?
I liked Matthrew Broderick's IMSAI 8080 dial-up system in Wargames better.
Take a look at my ID number 7110 vs your uncool 303437.
Second look who filed the Initial SCO vs IBM post. Beat That, Sonny.
Boies might be disbarred in Florida, at least it's a start.
If you had RTFA you would ave known it is inside the Unixware OS that they are claiming Patent infringements. Nothing to do with GPL
Maybe MS is just facing up to the fact that CLI Rulez, :-)
His follow up to Satanic Verses was Buddha you fat fuck
Since Sun is covered according to SCO/ Sun why license from Sun and recomplie the kernel for your servers from the Sun source if your PHB is worried about SCO's FUD?
You might even make a case for OpenOffice/ StarOffice internally while you are at it.
There is equally good chance that GPL code found it's way into Unixware that the reverse.
We as a group can do nothing better to kill off SCO that to choke their cashflow.
I think you are only partly right. Users of any application have different needs, from very rudementary capabilities to the most esoteric. Disney falls in the latter category.
By using Wine etc. anyone can use Linux on the desktop regardless of where on this curve they find themselves.
The Linux native application programs can gracefully improve and anyone can make the switch when the OSS version meets their needs.
You will have a smooth crossover mechanism.
Look at his lecture Series, If he comes to your city it is well worth attending the lecture.
It uses very simple math to explain the various heuristics that can be used in Math solutions. The book is right up there for Math what Feynman's lecture is for Physics.
40 Years later is it still required reading for first year MIT students.
Keep in mind that the SCO suit against IBM is based on Trade-Secrets. SCO has a duty to protect it and once out it is, in the eyes of the court, no longer considered a trade-secret.
They may then have a case against the Christoph but the suit as it stands today is pretty much shot.
Not really, the issue is removal of MS' ability to control and co-opt standards. Getting Joe Simian is just a mean to that objective, maybe the only way to ever achive that end.
If other avenues opens. Example Federal edict to use Open Standards most Linux users couldn't give a rat's ass about Joe.
Caveat is delta cost to Government of MS Tax as it is a cost to everyone.
partition asking Congress to look into this.
If you remember MoveON started as a movement with the purpose of lobbying for maybe there is more important things in this world tha a Presidential Blowjob.
They recently held the first Internet Prmary that gave Dean the top spot. Now this.
It is becoming a major political force,