I do not need to cite any papers for a political and economical solution. Do you think political science is a real science or something?
the brunt of the matter is either make massive and costly changes all at once or implement changes over time when the impacts of global warming actually catch up to the scare predictions. And yes, those scare scenarios are predicted to happen far into the future. Far enough that in some predictions, it will be two or more generations away.
I used the phrasing almost all specifically because it may be possible to bypass the controls using UDP. However, this would require a lot if things to happen like the ISP only restricting tcp/ip and a proxy server on the isp's network within the same segnent as your ip block (udp is not routable without some help).
There are some tools on the internet that can explain it way better than i can snd help you achieve it but i used some of them a few years ago to bypass the login screens on some free wifi connections in the past when i wanted truly anonymous access.
They do not need statutory authority to turn your internet off. They can just cancel your contract and sever ties with you. In a lot of instances, this cann be done for any reason not barred by law.
The problem with this scheme is that in order for it to work, they have to keep your contract and deny your rights under it while demanding extra payment to a third party.
I see, you have no logic or facts capable of countering the post so you ignore it and try to attack the messenger. I am not surprised as this is what "scientific debate" devolves to when you attempt to for politics in it and the obvious economic realities fo not line up with your cherrished point of view. Most of us call it intelectual lazyness but i'm going to go a bit further qnd say you have a problem with intelectual honesty to. So please quit lieing to yourself.
They are going tp say they will sue them if they don't take steps to prevent you from pirating their material. That is what they did to get the 3 strikes process started.
So The ISP has a choice of caving to their demands and getting a kickback or fight a costly battle that they may or may not win.
Yes, it would work on almost all browsers and there likely would never be a patch that would get around it. Well not a legal one- you would basically have to hack the authentification system.
The browser is only in play in order to display messages with this. Access control is typically on the hardware level with the packets being redirected to control access. Of course if done by proxy, its a software/hardware combo but the router will not forward packets outside what they allow.
I see some consumer protection laws comming into play. Currently, if they shut you off, you do not continue to be charged. If they keep ylur account active but deny you the internet (which would be neccesary to display the messages) you aren't getting what you payed for. I'm also thinking some RICO statutes might be in play too if it can be determined they colluded in ordr to defraud the consumer.
It doesn't matter if anthropogenic CO2 causes warming or not (although there has yet to be any empiracle evidence of such). What matters is the costs with correcting it verses enduring it. So far, enduring it seems to be more cost effective than the plans to correct it that are being considered by governments. And most if them seem to have the end result of enduring us added costs.
Its more complicated than denialists which seems to be anyone who doesn't toe the line exactly how it is preached.
The federal prison budget is only about 6.5 billion a year. It is generally not considered a budget buster and is largely covered before deficit spending is considered. Taxes wouldn't go up a complete percent to cover that little amount.
Your argument is really about running a ballanced budget so citizens can understand the true cost of everything the government does. But picking the federal prison system out of the mix will not have any significant impact in the grand scheme of things
There are 0.5 pints in a cup. It's not a hard concept, primary school children in the US are expected to know this stuff. If' it is too difficult, I'm not sure what I can tell ya.
No one answered because you would normally convert down to the next logical unit. You don't say the field was one million six hundred thousand and three hundred centimeters long. You say it is sixteenthousand and three meters or sixteen point zero zero three kilometers. 16003 meters. Like wise, every eight ounces is a cup, two cups (16oz) is a pint, two pints (32oz) is a quart , and four quarts (128oz) is a gallon.
Rarely would you need to know how many ounces are in a gallon unless you are doing something that specifically deal with it and by then, you likely already know.
How about we print a bunch of money and give everyone a governmeny job. We can even have the government buy everything the private sector produces too.
Government essentially robs petter to pay paul. Yes, those payments may have a positive impact on the economy but not near as much as private enterprise or the people keeping and spending the money will. Even if they save it, it still goes into loan pools that helps others.
Anything over essential government services and it becomes highly inneficient fast.
I was kind of thinking about that same rabbit but going down a different hole.
If the same logic is applied to home building, you coukd say ghe home wasn't built by the builders but assembled too. Nature grows the lumber and a mill makes it useful. Companies make shingles and sinks and so on, all the builder does is install them or directs domeobe else to do it. Yet we say fhe home was built not assembled. The GP is limiting the definitiion of build way too much
The NSA never touched this though. You sem to be trying to say that since a drunken murderer buys jim beam that all whiskey jim beam produces is somehow now suspect. It juat aint so.
We used to tackle blue green algae with copper sulfate in the 400 acre pond where i grew up. We just put about 2 lbs in a burlap sack, tied a rope around it and trolled it around the algae areas once or twice a week for three to four weeks in a row durring the heat of summer. It took about 2-3 hours to hit the blooms
Do they not do this any more? Or is there something different about in your area that makes it impractical or inneffective or something?
No.. you are just as likely to overlook good research and settle for bad research when the source of funds is a primary role in how you accept it.
The research and or science will stand on its own merrits. Well, that is if science is the goal and not politics. In this case, a university of good repute just had its integrity challenged by nothing more than idiots on parade trying to turn something political. There is no justification for it. Just mentioning the funding sources is one thing, but they actually implied it meant something and that is wrong.
If the NSA or evil software writers association actually developed the software, then yes. But simply passing money to an otherwise reputated team makes no sense- closed or open.
I doubt they would bother. Stamps are not translucent and you need at least one of them to be if you ever hope to recombine them to see the message.
They would have probably been better of just having fhe letters printed in pairs and the end user just stack a few together in the right sequence. With this, you need to know what to look for, scan it into something with the ability to manipulate images to combine them and see the nessage.
Why in the hell would you need to look at something with a skeptical eye just because money came from a certain source? Is the reputation of carnegie mellon suspect or something? And if so, shouldn't that in and of itself be the reason of suspect?
The submiter is a shallow person suffering from guilt by association which is never a valid premise. I mean i know skin heads who donate to planned patrenthood specifically because they have all their abortion clinics in areas with high minority populations and keep the minority populations in check. Does that mean we have to look at them wiyh a skeptical eye too? Of course not- or at least npt because a source of their funding has issues most of us find repulsive.
The merrits of this will rest on its own. There is absolutely no reason to put the integrity of the development into question simply because the NSA gave funding.
Sigh.. you don't even need a credit card. A simple I want one sign me up and notify me when they are shipping thing is all that is needed at this stage if you are trying to guess the potential sales of them.
As for raising capitol for production, that might be a little easier if you can say "there are 10,000 potential buyers for the first release". They are taking donations for funding and if someone wants to donate money, fine. I don't but I am willing to purchase one if it is as good as it sounds and costs is reasonable.
But perhaps they struggle to find buyers is largely because there is no pre order option or let me know when it is availible option that I can find on their website. Maybe they could set up something like an if interested in owning one of these, keep me informed something or other. There is only a donate button and I don't wish to fund a project, I wish to purchase the results of it if the price is right- and we won't know that until it's shipping or ready to ship.
They shouldn't need to dig up the streets for DSL. Likely they have too many bridge taps in the circuit or something and don't want to install more lines but existing right of ways should cover expanding and delivery of copper lines for phone service so outside of a few permits, there shouldn't be much capable of stopping them from maintaining existing infrastructure.
It won't be long before they end up forcing an upgrade though. The FCC national broadband strategy is linked with the M2M technology strategy and is being touted as a means to an end for the smart grid and telephone service access also. So the city will either play ball and make the broadband available or the state and perhaps city will end up losing a bunch of funds which they likely will not want to happen.
Oh, the M2M or mobile to mobile is a means in which cell phones would pick a wifi signal and route phones calls via VoIP along the internet instead of the carrier networks via cell sites if one is available, If not, it would use the cell site and either do the old fashioned way or via VoIP depending on how new the site is. Most all cell phone providers are going to the VoIP as a means to deliver calls in the future as the back haul is cheaper to set up and maintain for cell expansion.
It's just a matter of time. Hopefully you won't be old and gray and more interested in keeping those damn kids off your lawn than using the internet by then.
lol.. No, they always had constitutional rights and the supreme court said congress cannot take them away. The court started affirming these rights as early as 1819 when all the founding fathers were still around and the constitution and the role of government was well understood.
Congress shall make no law means what it means. It does not mean congress can make a law in certain times or that congress can make a law if something is a certain way, it means congress can make no law prohibiting the freedom of speech. It is clear and always has been clear- even when you attempt to shoehorn it into something else.
What is the cost difference between the other storage and that. I mean if batteries or compressed air costs 10 cents per kilowatt and this costs 5 cents, the difference in efficiencies are completely negated.
This isn't just a physics question, it is an economics question too. From what I can tell, most other sources of energy that deals with "peak loads" is about as inefficient also. But if the process solves a problem with pollutants and/or satisfies public concern at about the same costs as fossil fuel generation, then it is economical to do so even with extra losses in efficiency.
The question I asked was not if it is efficient but if anyone has looked into it as a solution. If something else is better and more cost effective, then what and where is the information on it.
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I do not need to cite any papers for a political and economical solution. Do you think political science is a real science or something?
the brunt of the matter is either make massive and costly changes all at once or implement changes over time when the impacts of global warming actually catch up to the scare predictions. And yes, those scare scenarios are predicted to happen far into the future. Far enough that in some predictions, it will be two or more generations away.
I used the phrasing almost all specifically because it may be possible to bypass the controls using UDP. However, this would require a lot if things to happen like the ISP only restricting tcp/ip and a proxy server on the isp's network within the same segnent as your ip block (udp is not routable without some help).
There are some tools on the internet that can explain it way better than i can snd help you achieve it but i used some of them a few years ago to bypass the login screens on some free wifi connections in the past when i wanted truly anonymous access.
They do not need statutory authority to turn your internet off. They can just cancel your contract and sever ties with you. In a lot of instances, this cann be done for any reason not barred by law.
The problem with this scheme is that in order for it to work, they have to keep your contract and deny your rights under it while demanding extra payment to a third party.
I see, you have no logic or facts capable of countering the post so you ignore it and try to attack the messenger. I am not surprised as this is what "scientific debate" devolves to when you attempt to for politics in it and the obvious economic realities fo not line up with your cherrished point of view. Most of us call it intelectual lazyness but i'm going to go a bit further qnd say you have a problem with intelectual honesty to. So please quit lieing to yourself.
They are going tp say they will sue them if they don't take steps to prevent you from pirating their material. That is what they did to get the 3 strikes process started.
So The ISP has a choice of caving to their demands and getting a kickback or fight a costly battle that they may or may not win.
Yes, it would work on almost all browsers and there likely would never be a patch that would get around it. Well not a legal one- you would basically have to hack the authentification system.
The browser is only in play in order to display messages with this. Access control is typically on the hardware level with the packets being redirected to control access. Of course if done by proxy, its a software/hardware combo but the router will not forward packets outside what they allow.
I see some consumer protection laws comming into play. Currently, if they shut you off, you do not continue to be charged. If they keep ylur account active but deny you the internet (which would be neccesary to display the messages) you aren't getting what you payed for. I'm also thinking some RICO statutes might be in play too if it can be determined they colluded in ordr to defraud the consumer.
It doesn't matter if anthropogenic CO2 causes warming or not (although there has yet to be any empiracle evidence of such). What matters is the costs with correcting it verses enduring it. So far, enduring it seems to be more cost effective than the plans to correct it that are being considered by governments. And most if them seem to have the end result of enduring us added costs.
Its more complicated than denialists which seems to be anyone who doesn't toe the line exactly how it is preached.
You forgot mounted on a drone that is really a remote controlled quad/octi copter.
I imagine some sieescan sonar would be called for too.
The federal prison budget is only about 6.5 billion a year. It is generally not considered a budget buster and is largely covered before deficit spending is considered. Taxes wouldn't go up a complete percent to cover that little amount.
Your argument is really about running a ballanced budget so citizens can understand the true cost of everything the government does. But picking the federal prison system out of the mix will not have any significant impact in the grand scheme of things
There are 0.5 pints in a cup. It's not a hard concept, primary school children in the US are expected to know this stuff. If' it is too difficult, I'm not sure what I can tell ya.
No one answered because you would normally convert down to the next logical unit. You don't say the field was one million six hundred thousand and three hundred centimeters long. You say it is sixteenthousand and three meters or sixteen point zero zero three kilometers. 16003 meters. Like wise, every eight ounces is a cup, two cups (16oz) is a pint, two pints (32oz) is a quart , and four quarts (128oz) is a gallon.
Rarely would you need to know how many ounces are in a gallon unless you are doing something that specifically deal with it and by then, you likely already know.
How about we print a bunch of money and give everyone a governmeny job. We can even have the government buy everything the private sector produces too.
Government essentially robs petter to pay paul. Yes, those payments may have a positive impact on the economy but not near as much as private enterprise or the people keeping and spending the money will. Even if they save it, it still goes into loan pools that helps others.
Anything over essential government services and it becomes highly inneficient fast.
I was kind of thinking about that same rabbit but going down a different hole.
If the same logic is applied to home building, you coukd say ghe home wasn't built by the builders but assembled too. Nature grows the lumber and a mill makes it useful. Companies make shingles and sinks and so on, all the builder does is install them or directs domeobe else to do it. Yet we say fhe home was built not assembled. The GP is limiting the definitiion of build way too much
The NSA never touched this though. You sem to be trying to say that since a drunken murderer buys jim beam that all whiskey jim beam produces is somehow now suspect. It juat aint so.
We used to tackle blue green algae with copper sulfate in the 400 acre pond where i grew up. We just put about 2 lbs in a burlap sack, tied a rope around it and trolled it around the algae areas once or twice a week for three to four weeks in a row durring the heat of summer. It took about 2-3 hours to hit the blooms
Do they not do this any more? Or is there something different about in your area that makes it impractical or inneffective or something?
No.. you are just as likely to overlook good research and settle for bad research when the source of funds is a primary role in how you accept it.
The research and or science will stand on its own merrits. Well, that is if science is the goal and not politics. In this case, a university of good repute just had its integrity challenged by nothing more than idiots on parade trying to turn something political. There is no justification for it. Just mentioning the funding sources is one thing, but they actually implied it meant something and that is wrong.
If the NSA or evil software writers association actually developed the software, then yes. But simply passing money to an otherwise reputated team makes no sense- closed or open.
I doubt they would bother. Stamps are not translucent and you need at least one of them to be if you ever hope to recombine them to see the message.
They would have probably been better of just having fhe letters printed in pairs and the end user just stack a few together in the right sequence. With this, you need to know what to look for, scan it into something with the ability to manipulate images to combine them and see the nessage.
Why in the hell would you need to look at something with a skeptical eye just because money came from a certain source? Is the reputation of carnegie mellon suspect or something? And if so, shouldn't that in and of itself be the reason of suspect?
The submiter is a shallow person suffering from guilt by association which is never a valid premise. I mean i know skin heads who donate to planned patrenthood specifically because they have all their abortion clinics in areas with high minority populations and keep the minority populations in check. Does that mean we have to look at them wiyh a skeptical eye too? Of course not- or at least npt because a source of their funding has issues most of us find repulsive.
The merrits of this will rest on its own. There is absolutely no reason to put the integrity of the development into question simply because the NSA gave funding.
Sigh.. you don't even need a credit card. A simple I want one sign me up and notify me when they are shipping thing is all that is needed at this stage if you are trying to guess the potential sales of them.
As for raising capitol for production, that might be a little easier if you can say "there are 10,000 potential buyers for the first release". They are taking donations for funding and if someone wants to donate money, fine. I don't but I am willing to purchase one if it is as good as it sounds and costs is reasonable.
Well, it could be done without processing any payment. They aren't selling them yet, just looking for potential buyers.
I want one...
But perhaps they struggle to find buyers is largely because there is no pre order option or let me know when it is availible option that I can find on their website. Maybe they could set up something like an if interested in owning one of these, keep me informed something or other. There is only a donate button and I don't wish to fund a project, I wish to purchase the results of it if the price is right- and we won't know that until it's shipping or ready to ship.
They shouldn't need to dig up the streets for DSL. Likely they have too many bridge taps in the circuit or something and don't want to install more lines but existing right of ways should cover expanding and delivery of copper lines for phone service so outside of a few permits, there shouldn't be much capable of stopping them from maintaining existing infrastructure.
It won't be long before they end up forcing an upgrade though. The FCC national broadband strategy is linked with the M2M technology strategy and is being touted as a means to an end for the smart grid and telephone service access also. So the city will either play ball and make the broadband available or the state and perhaps city will end up losing a bunch of funds which they likely will not want to happen.
Oh, the M2M or mobile to mobile is a means in which cell phones would pick a wifi signal and route phones calls via VoIP along the internet instead of the carrier networks via cell sites if one is available, If not, it would use the cell site and either do the old fashioned way or via VoIP depending on how new the site is. Most all cell phone providers are going to the VoIP as a means to deliver calls in the future as the back haul is cheaper to set up and maintain for cell expansion.
It's just a matter of time. Hopefully you won't be old and gray and more interested in keeping those damn kids off your lawn than using the internet by then.
lol.. No, they always had constitutional rights and the supreme court said congress cannot take them away. The court started affirming these rights as early as 1819 when all the founding fathers were still around and the constitution and the role of government was well understood.
Congress shall make no law means what it means. It does not mean congress can make a law in certain times or that congress can make a law if something is a certain way, it means congress can make no law prohibiting the freedom of speech. It is clear and always has been clear- even when you attempt to shoehorn it into something else.
What is the cost difference between the other storage and that. I mean if batteries or compressed air costs 10 cents per kilowatt and this costs 5 cents, the difference in efficiencies are completely negated.
This isn't just a physics question, it is an economics question too. From what I can tell, most other sources of energy that deals with "peak loads" is about as inefficient also. But if the process solves a problem with pollutants and/or satisfies public concern at about the same costs as fossil fuel generation, then it is economical to do so even with extra losses in efficiency.
The question I asked was not if it is efficient but if anyone has looked into it as a solution. If something else is better and more cost effective, then what and where is the information on it.