I agree about the D point, and that is the case mainly with bigger corporations... Well no, it s dependent on the usage isn't it? Average users was interoperability about average things (mail, media), advanced users want connectivity with other more sophisticated things (vpns file transfers, this and that). The statement about the free market is a bit harsh, that's true, but that's the reality considering MS. Somethimes they'll made a brilliant piece of software (VS) and you have to admire them, sometimes they'll just play unfair (changing protocols, patenting stupid things) and you have to wonder why in the world. But they are big company so that comes probably by default.
Same thing happened to me, and the bonus was that I couldn't download adaware from internet becase one of the spyware's was redirecting all requests. I asked the girl how was she downloading things from internet and she told me "I use the OTHER internet", after a while I grasped it and she was using Explorer to access web pages, which seems to be less malware-obeyable. Non the less, I couldn't download adaware with explorer too, so I ended up using FTP from the command line and directly connecting to the server. That solved it. But what a time waste!
Rediff.com will also start freeing up over 15 million email addresses that have not been in use over the years, giving new users a better chance of finding an email id of their choice
So.. 15,000,000 X 1 GB =...
What will happen after two years when those inboxes start filling up to the top?
I've heard rants like this so many times.
The main point is thought, that, Windows software was better for the average user, and to some extent it's still. So stop complaining about customer lock in and what not, it's there yes, but it's just one of those small annoyning things. Linux is getting better, the average users are switching away (and that's gaining momentum).
It's same as cell phones, if I know that there a companies A, B, C I'll at least ask about them. If company A says B and C are worse, well... if I don't have time to go and see more, I'll trust them (just a consumers behavious), but if I stumble on B and C and see their good sides, I'll choose no matter lock-in and else. What's needed is more demos, more videoclips about Ximian dekstop, Kde, Open office, all those small things we like about linux and are getting better each day. I don't know if there is such a thing, but it seems waaaay better for me to spend time on creating materials to present linux to the world than ranting about unfarir microsoft practices. It's a free market, grow up.
I had once to repair a user PC (average Joe's) with about 1447 installed whatnot... (according to adaware) It was taking the darn thing 35 minutes just to boot up and was veryyyy slow when operating. And she was having quite a powerfull machine too..
His solution is way over the top but... The software used is very simple at the moment, nothing more than an rc script that plays random tracks from the mp3 archive stored in the ~80G/export/mp3 filesystem. That filesystem is constructed by concatenating a bunch of 9G SCSI disks (the root filesystem is mirrored across a similar set of disks)
It it possible to use just a regular 100-200GB x few disks with this box? I mean, as soon as you have a fridge in your car for the purpose of listening music (comapred to portable mp3 player), you might as well go megalomaniac and stash it with 1TB hard drive space.
Oh yes, on related notes, can he wash his picnic dishes in it? Does it keep beer cold? It looks like a funny kitchen appliance.
You are right about the sound as a source of direction. Long time ago, even in evolutionary terms, humans (or whatever they were at the time) lived mostly at night for many million years and they got quite decent hearing. What happened after all big predators died, and our species started going out at daytime again, is that the sound was encompased with *more* visual data. So first you hear the thing and then you see it. Sometimes the brain can play tricks on you substituting the images when there isn't any (just sound). That's how all those people are claiming they've *seen* something that wasn't there, freaks:)
Second thoughts, it will be quite interesting to see how the safe/spamfree discussion groups will evolve, what will be on them, and what will kids do in a porn/spam/media free environment. Will they considering it boring/interesting/personal/safe?
Is there a chance of having some kind of summary of it?
I don't quite think it will fly.
I has bbs at the time, when internet was quite expensive back home, and it was doing ok mainly because lack of option.
Today, www is hugee, you don't have to restrict to a single area, you aren't limited to, with things like slashdot, disney, news, streaming and p2p, you have highly specialized and good services for free *discreet cough* .
On the other hand, if it's strictly intranet, restricting outside access AT ALL, it might turn out as an interesting experiment. Do tell us how it will grow (if it grows at all).
So,,, what we'll have is small stations trying to emit on a same fq as the big guys (radio squatting) just to find themselves once morning surronded by big power transmitters from every side owned by those companies?
no good, all those frequencies will interfere with each other beyond recognition. then, you'll have all sort of bribe/force from stations trying to convince everyone to let them their own fq with a semilegal means
FRANCIS:
Yeah. I think Judith's point of view is very valid, Reg, provided the Movement never forgets that it is the inalienable right of every man--
STAN:
Or woman.
FRANCIS:
Or woman... to rid himself--
STAN:
Or herself.
FRANCIS:
Or herself.
REG:
Agreed.
FRANCIS:
Thank you, brother.
STAN:
Or sister.
FRANCIS:
Or sister. Where was I?
REG:
I think you'd finished.
FRANCIS:
Oh. Right.
It's not the bandwidth they are paying, its the salaries of those people + infrastructure +investments in new technology.
It just happens that the rate of bandwith / $ is way not equal to sms/$. SO you cannot just compare them, they are different earning sources. But you are right, once you have the infrastructure set up right (which they had) the actuall cost of the sms transfer is 0.
Both you and the other post have valid points. It might be that the crossplatform-ness will prevail platform targeted nice-featred forks, I don't know. But I can definitely see System.Java taking shots at Sun's Java. They were burned once, true, but there always is another thing to try.
The Java community is split over whether open-sourcing Java is beneficial.
I will probably be marked troll on this one, but I have to ask:
How in the world can you be split over something like that?
I mean, people will basiclly poke at the code and report you bugs.
Other developers will request tons of features that they will point how easy are to be done.
Everyone will be happy.
It's not as if they are charging people for using the pure java language right now.
However, others, including Sun, believe the main hurdle and concern is the future of the Java brand and compatibility.
So, they are planning to be constantly changing the language then? What are they smoking?
We haven't worked out how to open-source Java -- but at some point it will happen," Srinivas said. However, he noted "it might be today, tomorrow or two years down the road".
Well, you start with a 19$.com name,
200+$/month for the hosting plan, and about scores of thousands $ for a 2 pages legal agreement. It shouldn't be that hard....
The thing I'm finding particulary funny lately, is that the spam folks are altering words to pass through spam filters, and the words don't even look recognisable. hw in th3 wrld would U byy 4rom some0ne 1ll1terate?
To quote their tech support: "Well sure, but all the bug fixes are available for 800$US." We paid because they claimed fixes and the main bugs we found still weren't fixed.
If GM was designing cars as software...:)))
I agree, but that standpoint does not changes the annoying fact that you have to deal with bugs in the software as a desktop user, not to mention as a developer. For example, I had a chance to work on a Delphi project. Pure nightmare, the API provided by borland are sometimes buggy as hell, up to the extend that functions for operating on string variables sometimes work sometimes don't. (We never figured out what triggered that.) There are memory leaks everywhere too. Switching from version 6 to version 7 showed that borland did invested in the fancier icons on the menus, but noone of the critical things we had problems with was corrected although we reported them several times. So.. sometimes, we want the programs to work and work GOOD. Especially if they are used heavily by someone (us). Because, if it'a a desktop market and if i doesn't work, you can switch the damn fancy thing. But if it's your company's compiler, you are rather stuch with it for a while.
I heard of this also, apparently it was the main thing when one friend of mine was designing bridges and doing feasibility testing. I don't know if they are still doing it nowdays. And, she told me that they don't put the average expected weight overhead, but they do severe overloading. She said that it's quite scary to see the bridge actually shifting in the air above you and waving left and right:))
It's quite simple actually:
today you have to develop things fast
faster development = more bugs
beta version= decreased liability (because of the bugs) while still collecting profits/'name-building'/etc
For example Google API is in a 'forewer beta', they state: "The Google Web APIs service is currently in beta form
and has not been fully tested or debugged. Accordingly, Google disclaims any responsibility for any harm
resulting from your use of Google Web APIs. "
Imagine if a bridge building company would say something like this.
It's plain scary. I mean, get some IT marketing guy and he'll find a way how 'the drivers should do the initial bridge testing'.
What's scary is that even the free projects lately are starting be quite-Beta-excusable for the bugs. Which is bad, since, as we all know, there
isn't any valid excuse for having bugs:) (in the software I mean:) )
Now, the thing to do is to patent this Beta concept for selling out half baked potatos for the full price,
if you live in Europe that is.
Imagine what kind of a strategy game this makes possible. As a long time SCBW player I sometimes hate all that scrolling arround. Now, if someone would take let say, 10 or those tables, big number of smaller robots, and devise some nifty control interface where two teams can duke it out while overseeing the whole table, THAT would be REALLY RELLY nice. Oh yeah, and if someone decides to do this, I want paid trip there and a few days of unlimited playtime:)
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I agree about the D point, and that is the case mainly with bigger corporations... Well no, it s dependent on the usage isn't it? Average users was interoperability about average things (mail, media), advanced users want connectivity with other more sophisticated things (vpns file transfers, this and that). The statement about the free market is a bit harsh, that's true, but that's the reality considering MS. Somethimes they'll made a brilliant piece of software (VS) and you have to admire them, sometimes they'll just play unfair (changing protocols, patenting stupid things) and you have to wonder why in the world. But they are big company so that comes probably by default.
Same thing happened to me, and the bonus was that I couldn't download adaware from internet becase one of the spyware's was redirecting all requests. I asked the girl how was she downloading things from internet and she told me "I use the OTHER internet", after a while I grasped it and she was using Explorer to access web pages, which seems to be less malware-obeyable. Non the less, I couldn't download adaware with explorer too, so I ended up using FTP from the command line and directly connecting to the server. That solved it. But what a time waste!
Rediff.com will also start freeing up over 15 million email addresses that have not been in use over the years, giving new users a better chance of finding an email id of their choice
...
So.. 15,000,000 X 1 GB =
What will happen after two years when those inboxes start filling up to the top?
The chick with the 1337 computer... :)
I've heard rants like this so many times.
The main point is thought, that, Windows software was better for the average user, and to some extent it's still. So stop complaining about customer lock in and what not, it's there yes, but it's just one of those small annoyning things. Linux is getting better, the average users are switching away (and that's gaining momentum).
It's same as cell phones, if I know that there a companies A, B, C I'll at least ask about them. If company A says B and C are worse, well... if I don't have time to go and see more, I'll trust them (just a consumers behavious), but if I stumble on B and C and see their good sides, I'll choose no matter lock-in and else. What's needed is more demos, more videoclips about Ximian dekstop, Kde, Open office, all those small things we like about linux and are getting better each day. I don't know if there is such a thing, but it seems waaaay better for me to spend time on creating materials to present linux to the world than ranting about unfarir microsoft practices.
It's a free market, grow up.
I had once to repair a user PC (average Joe's) with about 1447 installed whatnot... (according to adaware) It was taking the darn thing 35 minutes just to boot up and was veryyyy slow when operating. And she was having quite a powerfull machine too..
I posted about 10th and there weren't any simmilar messages. Can someone explain to me WHY redundant?
His solution is way over the top but... /export/mp3 filesystem. That filesystem is constructed by concatenating a bunch of 9G SCSI disks (the root filesystem is mirrored across a similar set of disks)
The software used is very simple at the moment, nothing more than an rc script that plays random tracks from the mp3 archive stored in the ~80G
It it possible to use just a regular 100-200GB x few disks with this box? I mean, as soon as you have a fridge in your car for the purpose of listening music (comapred to portable mp3 player), you might as well go megalomaniac and stash it with 1TB hard drive space.
Oh yes, on related notes, can he wash his picnic dishes in it? Does it keep beer cold? It looks like a funny kitchen appliance.
You are right about the sound as a source of direction. Long time ago, even in evolutionary terms, humans (or whatever they were at the time) lived mostly at night for many million years and they got quite decent hearing. What happened after all big predators died, and our species started going out at daytime again, is that the sound was encompased with *more* visual data. So first you hear the thing and then you see it. Sometimes the brain can play tricks on you substituting the images when there isn't any (just sound). That's how all those people are claiming they've *seen* something that wasn't there, freaks :)
maybe, maybe not
Second thoughts, it will be quite interesting to see how the safe/spamfree discussion groups will evolve, what will be on them, and what will kids do in a porn/spam/media free environment. Will they considering it boring/interesting/personal/safe?
Is there a chance of having some kind of summary of it?
I don't quite think it will fly.
I has bbs at the time, when internet was quite expensive back home, and it was doing ok mainly because lack of option.
Today, www is hugee, you don't have to restrict to a single area, you aren't limited to, with things like slashdot, disney, news, streaming and p2p, you have highly specialized and good services for free *discreet cough* .
On the other hand, if it's strictly intranet, restricting outside access AT ALL, it might turn out as an interesting experiment. Do tell us how it will grow (if it grows at all).
So,,, what we'll have is small stations trying to emit on a same fq as the big guys (radio squatting) just to find themselves once morning surronded by big power transmitters from every side owned by those companies?
no good, all those frequencies will interfere with each other beyond recognition. then, you'll have all sort of bribe/force from stations trying to convince everyone to let them their own fq with a semilegal means
together for a big bisexual orgy
.
:)
OR heterosexual
FRANCIS:
Yeah. I think Judith's point of view is very valid, Reg, provided the Movement never forgets that it is the inalienable right of every man--
STAN:
Or woman.
FRANCIS:
Or woman... to rid himself--
STAN:
Or herself.
FRANCIS:
Or herself.
REG:
Agreed.
FRANCIS:
Thank you, brother.
STAN:
Or sister.
FRANCIS:
Or sister. Where was I?
REG:
I think you'd finished.
FRANCIS:
Oh. Right.
It's not the bandwidth they are paying, its the salaries of those people + infrastructure +investments in new technology.
It just happens that the rate of bandwith / $ is way not equal to sms/$. SO you cannot just compare them, they are different earning sources.
But you are right, once you have the infrastructure set up right (which they had) the actuall cost of the sms transfer is 0.
Both you and the other post have valid points. It might be that the crossplatform-ness will prevail platform targeted nice-featred forks, I don't know. But I can definitely see System.Java taking shots at Sun's Java. They were burned once, true, but there always is another thing to try.
The Java community is split over whether open-sourcing Java is beneficial.
.com name,
200+$ /month for the hosting plan, and about scores of thousands $ for a 2 pages legal agreement. It shouldn't be that hard....
I will probably be marked troll on this one, but I have to ask:
How in the world can you be split over something like that?
I mean, people will basiclly poke at the code and report you bugs.
Other developers will request tons of features that they will point how easy are to be done.
Everyone will be happy.
It's not as if they are charging people for using the pure java language right now.
However, others, including Sun, believe the main hurdle and concern is the future of the Java brand and compatibility.
So, they are planning to be constantly changing the language then? What are they smoking?
We haven't worked out how to open-source Java -- but at some point it will happen," Srinivas said. However, he noted "it might be today, tomorrow or two years down the road".
Well, you start with a 19$
The thing I'm finding particulary funny lately, is that the spam folks are altering words to pass through spam filters, and the words don't even look recognisable. hw in th3 wrld would U byy 4rom some0ne 1ll1terate?
Maybe they should send an email to everyone requesting those $$$ :)
To quote their tech support: "Well sure, but all the bug fixes are available for 800$US." We paid because they claimed fixes and the main bugs we found still weren't fixed. ... :)))
If GM was designing cars as software
I agree, but that standpoint does not changes the annoying fact that you have to deal with bugs in the software as a desktop user, not to mention as a developer. For example, I had a chance to work on a Delphi project. Pure nightmare, the API provided by borland are sometimes buggy as hell, up to the extend that functions for operating on string variables sometimes work sometimes don't. (We never figured out what triggered that.) There are memory leaks everywhere too. Switching from version 6 to version 7 showed that borland did invested in the fancier icons on the menus, but noone of the critical things we had problems with was corrected although we reported them several times. So.. sometimes, we want the programs to work and work GOOD. Especially if they are used heavily by someone (us). Because, if it'a a desktop market and if i doesn't work, you can switch the damn fancy thing. But if it's your company's compiler, you are rather stuch with it for a while.
I heard of this also, apparently it was the main thing when one friend of mine was designing bridges and doing feasibility testing. I don't know if they are still doing it nowdays. And, she told me that they don't put the average expected weight overhead, but they do severe overloading. She said that it's quite scary to see the bridge actually shifting in the air above you and waving left and right :))
It's quite simple actually:
:) (in the software I mean :) )
today you have to develop things fast
faster development = more bugs
beta version= decreased liability (because of the bugs) while still collecting profits/'name-building'/etc
For example Google API is in a 'forewer beta', they state: "The Google Web APIs service is currently in beta form and has not been fully tested or debugged. Accordingly, Google disclaims any responsibility for any harm resulting from your use of Google Web APIs. "
Imagine if a bridge building company would say something like this. It's plain scary. I mean, get some IT marketing guy and he'll find a way how 'the drivers should do the initial bridge testing'.
What's scary is that even the free projects lately are starting be quite-Beta-excusable for the bugs. Which is bad, since, as we all know, there isn't any valid excuse for having bugs
Now, the thing to do is to patent this Beta concept for selling out half baked potatos for the full price, if you live in Europe that is.
Imagine what kind of a strategy game this makes possible. As a long time SCBW player I sometimes hate all that scrolling arround. Now, if someone would take let say, 10 or those tables, big number of smaller robots, and devise some nifty control interface where two teams can duke it out while overseeing the whole table, THAT would be REALLY RELLY nice. Oh yeah, and if someone decides to do this, I want paid trip there and a few days of unlimited playtime :)