Here's a thought I had -- is it possible that you do a lot of stuff, fail to defeat evil, evil comes to power, then you have to take it down? I ask this because it's not really so different from what happens in OoT.
Though I love Nintendo to death, I can't help but be wary of their move. Sure, the console will support traditional games, but the GameCube supports online games and look where that lead it.
The difference is that the Revolution will probably fully support traditional games out-of-the-box. (I think I saw something from Iwata or Miyamoto saying that the nunchaku attachment would be included, and probably a traditional shell as well.) That's hugely important. Things that don't come with the system never succeed. AFAIK, the closest thing to a succesful peripheral was actually the N64 RAM expansion pak.
In the end, it seems quite clear: Halo fans will buy a 360, Japan and FF fans (and there are a LOT of those) will buy a PS3, and devote Nintendo fans (and maybe some newcomers) will buy the Revolution. It's like clockwork, people.
I think it has to happen more than once to be 'like clockwork.'
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All the bnetd people wanted was an alternative to/battle.net/ when it was always laggy *and* have the same match-making services.
Blizzard took action against bnetd once it began to be used for Warcraft III -- a game that uses bNet for matchmaking only. The lagginess of the servers doesn't affect the speed of the actual games, because it isn't involved in the actual games.
Plus, you really have no idea what the point of Blizzard's CD-keys are. They're not meant to prevent people from installing and playing single player. People will always manage to do that anyway. They're meant to prevent people from playing multiplayer without purchasing the games.
a more mobile generation/society where a typical 16th birthday gift for kids is at least a used car.
Anecdotal experience indeed!
I'm 20, and live in an upper-middle class suburban area near Albany. I don't know a SINGLE person that got a car for their birthday. Actually, I don't know anybody who was just given a car for any occasion. I know people whose parents HELPED them buy cars, certainly, but I think in each case the parents made the kids pay at least half. Up-front, usually.
Why? They even dirtied up the shots a little extra to get the look they wanted. What's the benefit to tech that provides a more perfect picture, when you want a less perfect picture?
And this older generation, they did everything themselves, from scratch! They started out by learning how to mine and refine metals, to create copper wire. Then they discovered electricity. They invented the resistor and the capacitor. They learned how to machine parts....
Standing on the shoulders of those who came before is the definition of progress. So, please, unless you make your own wiring and screws and capacitors and what have you, shut up and stop whining.
I am not a businessman or an economist or whatever.
Gamecube is profitable? Thought Nintendo was posting some bad numbers last I heard.
Well, I suppose so. They're making LESS profit than they have been. Still a profit, just like every quarter save one in...I don't know, a long, long time.
It seems to my casually-viewing eyes that this is a natural time for overall numbers to slip, even to dip into the red. It's the end of a generation. Console sales are way down. Costs relating to development are probably soaring. Really, I'm a bit surprised that they're turning a profit at all, even with GBA and DS providing a counter to all the spending that must be going on.
Well, this is a game console. It's incredibly unlike a boat or a car or even a keyboard (as used for typing). Those are all things you want to be efficient. This is something you want to be fun. You want to create a good (and, possibly, unique) experience.
The goal is just entirely different. You can't even compare it to some practical device.
Think about it like the viewport in an RTS game. At least, I think it could work very well that way. There are other possibilities, but that seems most intuitive.
Well, according to all the interviews I've seen, the next Zelda game looks darker because it has darker, more adult themes. So it seems Nintendo is already taking some steps in the mature (not blood 'n guts, but mature) direction.
As for net gaming, I know that at E3 Iwata said he's doing all he can to make sure there's a net-enabled version of SSB out at the Rev's launch. That's a very good sign, if you ask me.
I'm mostly worried about how much third parties will embrace this thing. I know a lot of my favorite people have been saying good things, and even EA is, which is a good sign. But who knows?
I really have to laugh at any and all 'outcry.' People like it. What's so wrong with that?
Besides, isn't the fact that you don't always have control over what people do with your software one of the double-edged blades central to open-source software? If you don't want people messing with your programs, then don't open them up.
Well, I think the sensors just pinpoint the object in 3D space, and the controller keeps track of its own orientation. One of the things mentioned in the article is that for one of the demos, if the controller was aimed off the screen, there would be an arrow showing where it was pointing. So, if it does indeed work as everything I see indicates it does, there's truly nothing keeping you from swinging it around just like in the videos.
And I really don't think they'd be showing video of things so far from what's actually possible. This is Nintendo. Not Sony.
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Well, as the most compatibility-problem-laden verson of the PS2, it's doing a hell of a lot better than any XBox 360, isn't it?
Here's a thought I had -- is it possible that you do a lot of stuff, fail to defeat evil, evil comes to power, then you have to take it down? I ask this because it's not really so different from what happens in OoT.
Fun Fact: It's more trivial for me to download a game and copy a crack (or bypass the protection) than it is for me to go to the store and buy it.
What was Rare's last good game?
Though I love Nintendo to death, I can't help but be wary of their move. Sure, the console will support traditional games, but the GameCube supports online games and look where that lead it.
The difference is that the Revolution will probably fully support traditional games out-of-the-box. (I think I saw something from Iwata or Miyamoto saying that the nunchaku attachment would be included, and probably a traditional shell as well.) That's hugely important. Things that don't come with the system never succeed. AFAIK, the closest thing to a succesful peripheral was actually the N64 RAM expansion pak.
In the end, it seems quite clear: Halo fans will buy a 360, Japan and FF fans (and there are a LOT of those) will buy a PS3, and devote Nintendo fans (and maybe some newcomers) will buy the Revolution. It's like clockwork, people.
I think it has to happen more than once to be 'like clockwork.'
Though you may be right.
http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/toys/60b6/
Ruffle the insurgents' hair! For great justice!
All the bnetd people wanted was an alternative to /battle.net/ when it was always laggy *and* have the same match-making services.
Blizzard took action against bnetd once it began to be used for Warcraft III -- a game that uses bNet for matchmaking only. The lagginess of the servers doesn't affect the speed of the actual games, because it isn't involved in the actual games.
Plus, you really have no idea what the point of Blizzard's CD-keys are. They're not meant to prevent people from installing and playing single player. People will always manage to do that anyway. They're meant to prevent people from playing multiplayer without purchasing the games.
a more mobile generation/society where a typical 16th birthday gift for kids is at least a used car.
Anecdotal experience indeed!
I'm 20, and live in an upper-middle class suburban area near Albany. I don't know a SINGLE person that got a car for their birthday. Actually, I don't know anybody who was just given a car for any occasion. I know people whose parents HELPED them buy cars, certainly, but I think in each case the parents made the kids pay at least half. Up-front, usually.
Why? They even dirtied up the shots a little extra to get the look they wanted. What's the benefit to tech that provides a more perfect picture, when you want a less perfect picture?
Um, if it's always a fad, then it isn't a fad.
And this older generation, they did everything themselves, from scratch! They started out by learning how to mine and refine metals, to create copper wire. Then they discovered electricity. They invented the resistor and the capacitor. They learned how to machine parts....
Standing on the shoulders of those who came before is the definition of progress. So, please, unless you make your own wiring and screws and capacitors and what have you, shut up and stop whining.
I am not a businessman or an economist or whatever.
Gamecube is profitable? Thought Nintendo was posting some bad numbers last I heard.
Well, I suppose so. They're making LESS profit than they have been. Still a profit, just like every quarter save one in...I don't know, a long, long time.
It seems to my casually-viewing eyes that this is a natural time for overall numbers to slip, even to dip into the red. It's the end of a generation. Console sales are way down. Costs relating to development are probably soaring. Really, I'm a bit surprised that they're turning a profit at all, even with GBA and DS providing a counter to all the spending that must be going on.
Well, this is a game console. It's incredibly unlike a boat or a car or even a keyboard (as used for typing). Those are all things you want to be efficient. This is something you want to be fun. You want to create a good (and, possibly, unique) experience.
The goal is just entirely different. You can't even compare it to some practical device.
I know I saw the word 'definitely' in an IGN article. Don't know where THEY got it, but that's what it said.
You know where you are, right? I don't think you need to tell everybody what Alpha Centauri is. We all know.
I suspect it would generally be similar to how you can use your mouse to shift the viewport in RTS games.
If they can come up with something better, though, I'll take it.
It's pretty certain that all three of those games will be available for the Revolution.
Think about it like the viewport in an RTS game. At least, I think it could work very well that way. There are other possibilities, but that seems most intuitive.
Well, according to all the interviews I've seen, the next Zelda game looks darker because it has darker, more adult themes. So it seems Nintendo is already taking some steps in the mature (not blood 'n guts, but mature) direction.
As for net gaming, I know that at E3 Iwata said he's doing all he can to make sure there's a net-enabled version of SSB out at the Rev's launch. That's a very good sign, if you ask me.
I'm mostly worried about how much third parties will embrace this thing. I know a lot of my favorite people have been saying good things, and even EA is, which is a good sign. But who knows?
I'm sorry that you missed the joke.
Yes, there was one.
I really have to laugh at any and all 'outcry.' People like it. What's so wrong with that?
Besides, isn't the fact that you don't always have control over what people do with your software one of the double-edged blades central to open-source software? If you don't want people messing with your programs, then don't open them up.
I noticed it. However, being a normal, healthy human being, I instantly recognized that it was supposed to be a dentistry simulation.
Don't expect to see Madden for the Revolution.
Next you'll tell me not to expect a heavy boot planted right into my balls.
Well, I think the sensors just pinpoint the object in 3D space, and the controller keeps track of its own orientation. One of the things mentioned in the article is that for one of the demos, if the controller was aimed off the screen, there would be an arrow showing where it was pointing. So, if it does indeed work as everything I see indicates it does, there's truly nothing keeping you from swinging it around just like in the videos.
And I really don't think they'd be showing video of things so far from what's actually possible. This is Nintendo. Not Sony.
...who's editing that site?
For the love of the sweet sweet Jebus, I hope nobody is.