I didn't mean literally everything but we can certainly preserve quite a few working examples of everything. Especially something as world changing as computing.
For example, there should be a couple working GE mainframes capable of booting Multics once in a while.
The history and design notes can be easily preserved as well.
A couple German U-boats should be in seaworthy condition. And at least a few ME109's. Just because they lost doesn't mean we should erase them.
What we think is worthless or not worth it now will be highly sought after 20 years from now. It happens every time. Most people don't realize the importance of events or things they've built until much later down the line when the earlier history has already hit the dumpsters.
I disagree. A lot of focus is placed on games like Pac-Man (the programmer hated the game so he sabotaged it), but ignore the great ports like Asteroids, Missile Command, and Space Invaders that were BETTER than the original game.
Asteroids was a vector game originally and the 2600 and even the 800/5200 port was not near as good as the arcade and jerky in comparison. The vectrex vector game ports were almost identical to the arcade in smoothness and gameplay.
Missle Command graphics on the 2600 were awful and gameplay wasn't as good (1 silo vs 3, etc).
Space Invaders I'll give you.
Or Berzerk and Defender and Phoenix that were not identical but still fun. (And didn't require a small fortune in quarters.)
The Vectrex version of Berzerk was more complete (even with sampled sounds) on the Vectrex, higher resolution due to the vector display as well.
Considering that Atari was working with an ancient 70s console that had only 128 bytes of RAM, 2-4 KB of ROM, a 25x25 bitmapped playfield, and just two sprites, they did a decent job with their ports.
And there's my point, I never knocked the programmers, the 2600 was a piece of shit hardware platform that was inferior to most others even when it was new and really not very capable. The Vectrex was around during the same timeframe (maybe a year or two later) with a much better hardware architecture that was far easier to code for since you didn't have to chase a scanline to draw graphics, just plot lines.
The 5200 used a similar CPU as the 2600 but had the advantage of the POKEY and GTIA (basically a programmable GPU) coprocessors used in Atari's 8-bit computer line and was MUCH more powerful and easier to code for.
I also liked the multibutton 5200 controllers because the 1-button 2600 controller was inadequate for games like Star Raiders. The 5200 also supported standard analog joysticks with an adapter. The 2600 controllers were digital btw and therefore sucked. My Atari 800XL used the same style digital sticks.
So too did Imagic and Activision with their exclusives.
As for the 5200, it had a bastardized joystick that made the games near-impossible to play. Give me the old 1977 Atari VCS/2600 any day, because it may not look as pretty, but it has working controls.
Not really and 3rd party sticks were available or you could use a standard analog stick plus a keypad with an adapter. The 5200 version of missle command supported a trackball as well which was awesome. Nintendo 64 controllers sucked too but that didn't stop people from buying it.
I grew up with Atari.... my first computer was a straight 800 (moved to an 800XL then 130XE), my first GUI-based 16-bit machine was an Atari ST. First game systems were a 2600 (which didn't get played much cuz my 800 kicked its ass), a Vectrex which I played until it died and actually cried when it quit working when I was 16. I loved that thing. It was so unique and fun to play. I got a 5200 later which was cool but after I figured out that the games were direct ports of my 8-bit computer games I didn't play it all that long.
A 2600 is a good first game system for a 4 yr old since the games are so retardedly simple due to system limitations that even my dog could figure most of the games out quickly. As a game system for somebody who genuinely likes games and plays for extended periods, the 2600 got old real quick in a week or 2.
Exclusives that were very poor attempts at arcade ports with incredibly bad sound and graphics capabilities even for its day. The 2600 sucked ass. The 5200 wasn't bad as it was the same architecture used in the Atari 8-bit computers which had much better graphics hardware (a programmable GPU even, the Antic/GTIA).
The few arcade ports the vectrex got were WAY better than the 2600's arcade ports. Like Armor Attack, Space War, etc. Some even better than the original arcade games, i.e. Scramble and Berzerk.
Business blunders don't mean it was a bad system and the company didn't have awesome engineers. To regard an incredibly innovative entire platform created through blood, sweat and tears from the ground up as irrelevant because a few greedy execs f**ked up is retarded. Vectrex was leaps and bounds ahead of the competition as far as playability and tech went. Gimme a Vectrex over an Atari 2600 any day.
The system was great and lots of fun to play but expensive to produce among other things.
Atari is dead and has been a long time, someone bought the brand name. The Atari 800 and Atari ST's were incredibly innovative platforms that are long dead as well but still culturally relevant.
Not succeeding in a business sense doesn't mean your products are shit. Analyzing older systems to gain engineering insight and see how they solved strange issues is also fascinating.
And why the hell can't we preserve everything? We could if we cared too.
In fact, I think the NES was one of the most UNINTERESTING platforms simply because they were so common and not very innovative.
The Vectrex was my first game console as a kid.... I was born in '82.... There exists an emulator out there for OSX but it's pretty weak. MESS supports emulation of the Vectrex as well and sucks a lot less, includes overlay template support.
Your right though..... it's not the same.... vector screens very really bright and the lines had no jaggies. Animation was also very smooth as drawing vectors was a lot easier than dealing with a bitmapped display and could produce very detailed wireframe images for the time. Compare "Major Havoc" to "PacMan" to see what I mean. Vector displays were really neat.
Sorry, at least MAC PROS do. I miss the flexible and reasonably expandable macs. That's why my primary desktop mac is a hackintosh, so I can add things like cheap M-Audio multichannel audio cards and such where going firewire would be prohibitively expensive (and not any better) on my budget and cause me to have to repurchase a lot of perfectly good working gear. I carry around a base-model 09 Macbook these days too though. I don't think their hardware is crap or even majorly overpriced cept the Macbook pros and a couple imacs, they just don't make a machine for me anymore on the desktop. Mac Pros are overkill for most of what I do and iMacs lack the expandability and durability I need. I actually miss the low-end and midrange G4 towers.
Why would you buy a $2,000 workstation to play games?
I've never had problems playing most games on $50-$75 video cards anyway. You just want a large, loud and underutilized penis occupying your PCIe slot so you can brag to your friends. For folks like you which are kinda like those tard kids that throw a fart cannon on a Honda and call it a racecar, I recommend sticking to cheap ass off the shelf PC gear and buying a $350 video card.
The money in that machine isn't in the video card, it's everything else some piss-ant gamer like yourself will never take advantage of. There's a lot of us with real work to do for which this machine would be a godsend worth every penny.
Because some tard kid who runs a pirated copy of Photoshop once in a while and plays games can't see the value, it doesn't mean it won't sell to a vast niche (people with jobs who require lots of computing power). This is a computer, not an entertainment device.
That's as bad as the morons that claim OSX has no value over Windows. Anyone that says that usually uses computers for menial tasks like Word Processing and watching Youtube and no concept of what goes on under the hood.
Yes but if you cause disruptive sudden forks in projects, you slow their progress writing new code and they can't use the same name necessarily so brand recognition is gone.
It could also be disruptive in the sense that it will damage the reputation of open source.... "Do business with us, we're stable and we'll be here tomorrow. It's risky using free products developed as a hobby because those guys are an unorganized mess and in no position to provide effective support. Heck they may just decide to stop coding on a whim and leave you high and dry with no support OR EVEN AN UPGRADE PATH! Jeez.... just look what happened to Project $name"
Would not surprise me in the least from Oracle or MS.
IF and it is a mighty big one, your rendering program is written to take advantage of all those cores......
Show me a pro-grade rendering app that isn't SMP capable. SMP-capable macs have been around since at least the 100mhz PPC 603 days in mid 90's. I've seen plenty of SMP Socket 7 Pentium machines in my day as well. Even better, show me a pro-grade rendering app that someone who can afford to plop down $12k+ on a Mac Pro would consider running.....
Multiprocessor machines are NOT new by any means. Multi-core from a development standpoint ain't much different (if at all different) from targeting code for a multiprocessor machine and some multicore CPU's are little more than two single core CPU's sharing a socket and bus.
Most decent rendering software (at least pro versions) packages are capable of distributed rendering over a network as well as SMP.
Stop playing with trueSpace and Google SketchUp..... poisoning your minds.....
It's simply impossible for anyone outside of the government to second guess what must be kept secret, and what must not.
And self defense is for police and soldiers.... If you've got nothing to hide you have nothing to fear..... Free speech doesn't mean we can't retaliate against you for promoting unpopular opinions or jail you to keep from expressing those opinions..... do I need to go on?
Julian Assange is not in a position to make these judgments. He simply does not have the complete picture. All leaking bits and pieces can do is create a less than complete picture. He is not doing U.S. citizens a service.
And having NO picture except the official propaganda is the better alternative to an "incomplete" picture?
Conversely, if we cannot trust our government to make this decision, we need to do something about our government.
Exactly but be careful how you word that statement speaking it publicly. You're bordering on a 1-20 year prison sentence under both US Title 18 and likely a various state laws.
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SC has a similar law that is actually more vague and requires subversives register with the state or face 10 years. By registration you run afoul of the Federal Law.
The framework of our demise is already in place folks, they are just taking their time tightening the noose. If they enforced everything on the books in full force right now, I guarantee armed conflict would be likely.
A wife with limited earning potential due to lack of work experience with 2 small children. The daycare costs alone would eat most of a sub-$13/hr salary.
See previous response. If you can't afford to care for your child, you shouldn't have one. That doesn't mean you have to be rich, it just means you have to be able to take care of them based on your personal minimal living requirements.
I'd agree except 7 years ago, $35,000/yr was enough for a small family to live pretty reasonably. Now it gets you a single-wide trailer (assuming your credit isn't fucked up), ramen noodles and keeps a beat up car running. Salaries haven't increased with the cost of living.
I 100% agree, which is why I don't mind my tax dollars going to help people who legitimately can't afford health insurance for whatever reason.
The problem is that the poor get free care and the rich (most people in SC consider $50,000/yr+ pretty rich) can afford it. The people getting screwed are the lower middle class who make $350/month too much for Medicaid and have a worse quality of life than the "poor" who drive to DSS in a Cadillac Escalade while their 10 kids in designer clothes bounce out to go get more food stamps.
Our state also passed legislation giving hospitals a direct line to your bank account if you can't pay. They seize your tax returns and can seize property and assets as well simply because you got sick and lost your job and insurance. Lindsay Graham could use an asskicking. Maybe a couple feather pillows and a certain thick black substance kept at a nice warm temperature.
Meanwhile Cletus who just got out of jail has really nice teeth on his way to rob the gas station.
My problem isn't the poor getting care, it's everybody BUT folks in MY INCOME BRACKET that get care on my dime while I'm told to go to the ER and let them seize my stuff or curl up and die because I'm not poor enough to get Medicaid/Indigent care and not rich enough to afford real insurance. That is incredibly fucked up and unbalanced.
At least I could afford the lame ass dental plan that doesn't cover much I guess.
Now throw a wife and a kid or 2 in the mix. Still think you could afford insurance? And don't throw that lame ass "only rich people that can afford good insurance" should be allowed to have kids bullshit out there. The world needs ditchdiggers too and those ditchdiggers deserve to be as healthy as any one of us. They work their ass off too.
I still play Star Raiders pretty often with my son. I have an Atari 800 emulator on my Macbook and a USB joystick. This hooked up to my CRT HDTV looks really nice. I hadn't seen it on a real TV in a long time. Now I'm real tempted to get an 800XL off of ebay and stick an IDE cart in it.
Just because I'm conservative doesn't make me a republicant. I believe in being conservative AND free from govt tyranny or the shackles of religion. So I call myself a libertarian.
You can get a standard ID at any DMV and register to vote. In fact, you don't even need a DMV ID to register to vote but a voter registration card is accepted as one form of proof of residence in many states.
What I'm saying is the state's already have ID's. The states are sovereign entities and have it covered. The Federal Govt was just supposed to provide some oversight to make sure states don't stamp on people's rights, provide a military and regulate interstate commerce.
Or did you go to public school? If so I could see why a state-run (but heavily federally subsidized) institution would want you to believe that the Feds are supreme beings. In fact their power was intentionally limited heavily in the early days for a F**KING REASON. Unfortunately they didn't quite realize that secret societies/political parties with massive wealth would always end up picking the candidates and not "the people" and the roaches came crawling in and infested every level of government down to your local post office. Welcome to USA, Inc.
I'm not for a pure democracy but I am for a lean mean efficient constitutional republic where squander and waste of tax dollars by or under the direction of elected officials is punishable in criminal court along with severe criminal penalties for attempting to sidestep the spirit of the constitution and step on the rights of citizens (or any man for that matter).
In this country it's not supposed to be "ruler" and "subject". We are supposed to direct, own and control THEM. The politicians are supposed to be puppets of the people, not sitting on the board of some megacorp and rubber stamping anything they want while trying to castrate the American people at the same time so they can't do anything about it.
I don't know about you all but I'm pretty fed up and starting to hit my wits end with this crap.
We're going to have to learn how to manage this because for the most part, the parents aren't going to do it. This is especially true when the parent is a 15 year old girl that saw the father once or twice and managed to get pregnant.
It's not our place to manage it. Period. If society wants to be in the crapper, it's not the job of the government to decide what is moral and right. We own THEM not the other way around.
And by the way, I was a teenage parent at 15. My oldest daughter was born a couple months after my 15th birthday. I dropped out immediately, got an A+ cert and a job as a PC tech/embedded hardware tech and within a year and a half I was in the IT Dept as a Jr. Admin.
Just because you're young doesn't make you clueless and just because you have a lapse in judgement doesn't make you a useless moron for life unless you LET it happen.
I'm a damn good parent and I've had to fight for everything I have twice as hard as anyone else and still generally got treated worse than everyone else. I was walked on and taken advantage of quite a bit just because the company knew they had me by the balls and getting another tech job would be difficult.
I don't care how bad things get, government intervention in every aspect of daily life is not the answer. It's just a road to tyranny, stress and poor quality of life.
I absolutely DARE some school official to try this with my kids. I don't play the stupid game where they think they have even an ounce of authority over what my child does after stepping off the bus. In fact, if they punished my son for anything he did at home, I'll buy him ice cream for every day he's suspended and encourage him to make noise about it and resist in a smug, non-violent way as well as writing every official, politician and journalist I can find in a 100 mile radius. And then, I'll just be getting started. I'm not afraid of DSS either. I even *gasp* spank my kids.
The problem is sticking up for yourself and actually exercising your rights gets you branded as a radical, a criminal or a terrorist. This needs to end. I'm willing to live a harder life to live it with my liberty, pride and self-respect intact and I have. I've lost jobs, promotions, etc solely on sticking to values and principals and refusing to do the wrong thing. It's cost me.....dearly in some cases but at least I can honestly say that I'm free. There used to be a lot of people like this.
The school's job is to pour a bit of knowledge in his head. Teaching morality and values is the parent's job. They need to stay the hell off of my turf and stop overstepping their bounds. Period. What my son's personality is like, his habits, etc is none of their business outside that building.
The feds beat them to it a long time ago..... but they will probably just throw you in prison for 20 years. Amazing that I can be jailed for this longer than I can be jailed for attempted murder. Just for ADVOCATING revolution. This is disgusting. I feel a storm brewing.
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Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof— Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
The 4th amendment does not apply. As with every other country, the US considers domestic law to only apply when you are inside the country. If you have not yet cleared customs, you are technically not in the country. Therefore, you do not benefit from the protections of domestic law. This may seem like quibbling, but it is how every country controls its borders.
Does this mean that someone could shoot customs agents before they clear customs and not be prosecuted for murder since they are not subject to domestic law and its protections? They can't have their cake and eat it too. Either we all have rights or no one has rights. That includes THEIR rights.
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I didn't mean literally everything but we can certainly preserve quite a few working examples of everything. Especially something as world changing as computing.
For example, there should be a couple working GE mainframes capable of booting Multics once in a while.
The history and design notes can be easily preserved as well.
A couple German U-boats should be in seaworthy condition. And at least a few ME109's. Just because they lost doesn't mean we should erase them.
What we think is worthless or not worth it now will be highly sought after 20 years from now. It happens every time. Most people don't realize the importance of events or things they've built until much later down the line when the earlier history has already hit the dumpsters.
I disagree. A lot of focus is placed on games like Pac-Man (the programmer hated the game so he sabotaged it), but ignore the great ports like Asteroids, Missile Command, and Space Invaders that were BETTER than the original game.
Asteroids was a vector game originally and the 2600 and even the 800/5200 port was not near as good as the arcade and jerky in comparison. The vectrex vector game ports were almost identical to the arcade in smoothness and gameplay.
Missle Command graphics on the 2600 were awful and gameplay wasn't as good (1 silo vs 3, etc).
Space Invaders I'll give you.
Or Berzerk and Defender and Phoenix that were not identical but still fun. (And didn't require a small fortune in quarters.)
The Vectrex version of Berzerk was more complete (even with sampled sounds) on the Vectrex, higher resolution due to the vector display as well.
Considering that Atari was working with an ancient 70s console that had only 128 bytes of RAM, 2-4 KB of ROM, a 25x25 bitmapped playfield, and just two sprites, they did a decent job with their ports.
And there's my point, I never knocked the programmers, the 2600 was a piece of shit hardware platform that was inferior to most others even when it was new and really not very capable. The Vectrex was around during the same timeframe (maybe a year or two later) with a much better hardware architecture that was far easier to code for since you didn't have to chase a scanline to draw graphics, just plot lines.
The 5200 used a similar CPU as the 2600 but had the advantage of the POKEY and GTIA (basically a programmable GPU) coprocessors used in Atari's 8-bit computer line and was MUCH more powerful and easier to code for.
I also liked the multibutton 5200 controllers because the 1-button 2600 controller was inadequate for games like Star Raiders. The 5200 also supported standard analog joysticks with an adapter. The 2600 controllers were digital btw and therefore sucked. My Atari 800XL used the same style digital sticks.
So too did Imagic and Activision with their exclusives.
As for the 5200, it had a bastardized joystick that made the games near-impossible to play. Give me the old 1977 Atari VCS/2600 any day, because it may not look as pretty, but it has working controls.
Not really and 3rd party sticks were available or you could use a standard analog stick plus a keypad with an adapter. The 5200 version of missle command supported a trackball as well which was awesome. Nintendo 64 controllers sucked too but that didn't stop people from buying it.
I grew up with Atari.... my first computer was a straight 800 (moved to an 800XL then 130XE), my first GUI-based 16-bit machine was an Atari ST. First game systems were a 2600 (which didn't get played much cuz my 800 kicked its ass), a Vectrex which I played until it died and actually cried when it quit working when I was 16. I loved that thing. It was so unique and fun to play. I got a 5200 later which was cool but after I figured out that the games were direct ports of my 8-bit computer games I didn't play it all that long.
A 2600 is a good first game system for a 4 yr old since the games are so retardedly simple due to system limitations that even my dog could figure most of the games out quickly. As a game system for somebody who genuinely likes games and plays for extended periods, the 2600 got old real quick in a week or 2.
Exclusives that were very poor attempts at arcade ports with incredibly bad sound and graphics capabilities even for its day. The 2600 sucked ass. The 5200 wasn't bad as it was the same architecture used in the Atari 8-bit computers which had much better graphics hardware (a programmable GPU even, the Antic/GTIA).
The few arcade ports the vectrex got were WAY better than the 2600's arcade ports. Like Armor Attack, Space War, etc. Some even better than the original arcade games, i.e. Scramble and Berzerk.
Business blunders don't mean it was a bad system and the company didn't have awesome engineers. To regard an incredibly innovative entire platform created through blood, sweat and tears from the ground up as irrelevant because a few greedy execs f**ked up is retarded. Vectrex was leaps and bounds ahead of the competition as far as playability and tech went. Gimme a Vectrex over an Atari 2600 any day.
The system was great and lots of fun to play but expensive to produce among other things.
Atari is dead and has been a long time, someone bought the brand name. The Atari 800 and Atari ST's were incredibly innovative platforms that are long dead as well but still culturally relevant.
Not succeeding in a business sense doesn't mean your products are shit. Analyzing older systems to gain engineering insight and see how they solved strange issues is also fascinating.
And why the hell can't we preserve everything? We could if we cared too.
In fact, I think the NES was one of the most UNINTERESTING platforms simply because they were so common and not very innovative.
The Vectrex was my first game console as a kid.... I was born in '82.... There exists an emulator out there for OSX but it's pretty weak. MESS supports emulation of the Vectrex as well and sucks a lot less, includes overlay template support.
Your right though..... it's not the same.... vector screens very really bright and the lines had no jaggies. Animation was also very smooth as drawing vectors was a lot easier than dealing with a bitmapped display and could produce very detailed wireframe images for the time. Compare "Major Havoc" to "PacMan" to see what I mean. Vector displays were really neat.
Besides, macs have PCIe slots too.....
Sorry, at least MAC PROS do. I miss the flexible and reasonably expandable macs. That's why my primary desktop mac is a hackintosh, so I can add things like cheap M-Audio multichannel audio cards and such where going firewire would be prohibitively expensive (and not any better) on my budget and cause me to have to repurchase a lot of perfectly good working gear. I carry around a base-model 09 Macbook these days too though. I don't think their hardware is crap or even majorly overpriced cept the Macbook pros and a couple imacs, they just don't make a machine for me anymore on the desktop. Mac Pros are overkill for most of what I do and iMacs lack the expandability and durability I need. I actually miss the low-end and midrange G4 towers.
Why would you buy a $2,000 workstation to play games?
I've never had problems playing most games on $50-$75 video cards anyway. You just want a large, loud and underutilized penis occupying your PCIe slot so you can brag to your friends. For folks like you which are kinda like those tard kids that throw a fart cannon on a Honda and call it a racecar, I recommend sticking to cheap ass off the shelf PC gear and buying a $350 video card.
The money in that machine isn't in the video card, it's everything else some piss-ant gamer like yourself will never take advantage of. There's a lot of us with real work to do for which this machine would be a godsend worth every penny.
Because some tard kid who runs a pirated copy of Photoshop once in a while and plays games can't see the value, it doesn't mean it won't sell to a vast niche (people with jobs who require lots of computing power). This is a computer, not an entertainment device.
That's as bad as the morons that claim OSX has no value over Windows. Anyone that says that usually uses computers for menial tasks like Word Processing and watching Youtube and no concept of what goes on under the hood.
Besides, macs have PCIe slots too.....
Yes but if you cause disruptive sudden forks in projects, you slow their progress writing new code and they can't use the same name necessarily so brand recognition is gone.
It could also be disruptive in the sense that it will damage the reputation of open source.... "Do business with us, we're stable and we'll be here tomorrow. It's risky using free products developed as a hobby because those guys are an unorganized mess and in no position to provide effective support. Heck they may just decide to stop coding on a whim and leave you high and dry with no support OR EVEN AN UPGRADE PATH! Jeez.... just look what happened to Project $name"
Would not surprise me in the least from Oracle or MS.
IF and it is a mighty big one, your rendering program is written to take advantage of all those cores......
Show me a pro-grade rendering app that isn't SMP capable. SMP-capable macs have been around since at least the 100mhz PPC 603 days in mid 90's. I've seen plenty of SMP Socket 7 Pentium machines in my day as well. Even better, show me a pro-grade rendering app that someone who can afford to plop down $12k+ on a Mac Pro would consider running.....
Multiprocessor machines are NOT new by any means. Multi-core from a development standpoint ain't much different (if at all different) from targeting code for a multiprocessor machine and some multicore CPU's are little more than two single core CPU's sharing a socket and bus.
Most decent rendering software (at least pro versions) packages are capable of distributed rendering over a network as well as SMP.
Stop playing with trueSpace and Google SketchUp..... poisoning your minds.....
It's simply impossible for anyone outside of the government to second guess what must be kept secret, and what must not.
And self defense is for police and soldiers.... If you've got nothing to hide you have nothing to fear..... Free speech doesn't mean we can't retaliate against you for promoting unpopular opinions or jail you to keep from expressing those opinions..... do I need to go on?
Julian Assange is not in a position to make these judgments. He simply does not have the complete picture. All leaking bits and pieces can do is create a less than complete picture. He is not doing U.S. citizens a service.
And having NO picture except the official propaganda is the better alternative to an "incomplete" picture?
Conversely, if we cannot trust our government to make this decision, we need to do something about our government.
Exactly but be careful how you word that statement speaking it publicly. You're bordering on a 1-20 year prison sentence under both US Title 18 and likely a various state laws.
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SC has a similar law that is actually more vague and requires subversives register with the state or face 10 years. By registration you run afoul of the Federal Law.
The framework of our demise is already in place folks, they are just taking their time tightening the noose. If they enforced everything on the books in full force right now, I guarantee armed conflict would be likely.
A wife with limited earning potential due to lack of work experience with 2 small children. The daycare costs alone would eat most of a sub-$13/hr salary.
See previous response. If you can't afford to care for your child, you shouldn't have one. That doesn't mean you have to be rich, it just means you have to be able to take care of them based on your personal minimal living requirements.
I'd agree except 7 years ago, $35,000/yr was enough for a small family to live pretty reasonably. Now it gets you a single-wide trailer (assuming your credit isn't fucked up), ramen noodles and keeps a beat up car running. Salaries haven't increased with the cost of living.
I 100% agree, which is why I don't mind my tax dollars going to help people who legitimately can't afford health insurance for whatever reason.
The problem is that the poor get free care and the rich (most people in SC consider $50,000/yr+ pretty rich) can afford it. The people getting screwed are the lower middle class who make $350/month too much for Medicaid and have a worse quality of life than the "poor" who drive to DSS in a Cadillac Escalade while their 10 kids in designer clothes bounce out to go get more food stamps.
Our state also passed legislation giving hospitals a direct line to your bank account if you can't pay. They seize your tax returns and can seize property and assets as well simply because you got sick and lost your job and insurance. Lindsay Graham could use an asskicking. Maybe a couple feather pillows and a certain thick black substance kept at a nice warm temperature.
Meanwhile Cletus who just got out of jail has really nice teeth on his way to rob the gas station.
My problem isn't the poor getting care, it's everybody BUT folks in MY INCOME BRACKET that get care on my dime while I'm told to go to the ER and let them seize my stuff or curl up and die because I'm not poor enough to get Medicaid/Indigent care and not rich enough to afford real insurance. That is incredibly fucked up and unbalanced.
At least I could afford the lame ass dental plan that doesn't cover much I guess.
Now throw a wife and a kid or 2 in the mix. Still think you could afford insurance? And don't throw that lame ass "only rich people that can afford good insurance" should be allowed to have kids bullshit out there. The world needs ditchdiggers too and those ditchdiggers deserve to be as healthy as any one of us. They work their ass off too.
Stalin would have just loved that content-aware fill tool.....
I still play Star Raiders pretty often with my son. I have an Atari 800 emulator on my Macbook and a USB joystick. This hooked up to my CRT HDTV looks really nice. I hadn't seen it on a real TV in a long time. Now I'm real tempted to get an 800XL off of ebay and stick an IDE cart in it.
Tradewars 2002 was f**kin awesome too!
Just because I'm conservative doesn't make me a republicant. I believe in being conservative AND free from govt tyranny or the shackles of religion. So I call myself a libertarian.
You can get a standard ID at any DMV and register to vote. In fact, you don't even need a DMV ID to register to vote but a voter registration card is accepted as one form of proof of residence in many states.
What I'm saying is the state's already have ID's. The states are sovereign entities and have it covered. The Federal Govt was just supposed to provide some oversight to make sure states don't stamp on people's rights, provide a military and regulate interstate commerce.
Or did you go to public school? If so I could see why a state-run (but heavily federally subsidized) institution would want you to believe that the Feds are supreme beings. In fact their power was intentionally limited heavily in the early days for a F**KING REASON. Unfortunately they didn't quite realize that secret societies/political parties with massive wealth would always end up picking the candidates and not "the people" and the roaches came crawling in and infested every level of government down to your local post office. Welcome to USA, Inc.
I'm not for a pure democracy but I am for a lean mean efficient constitutional republic where squander and waste of tax dollars by or under the direction of elected officials is punishable in criminal court along with severe criminal penalties for attempting to sidestep the spirit of the constitution and step on the rights of citizens (or any man for that matter).
In this country it's not supposed to be "ruler" and "subject". We are supposed to direct, own and control THEM. The politicians are supposed to be puppets of the people, not sitting on the board of some megacorp and rubber stamping anything they want while trying to castrate the American people at the same time so they can't do anything about it.
I don't know about you all but I'm pretty fed up and starting to hit my wits end with this crap.
Windows CE has been available on ARM for over a decade.
Besides, I want an ARM netbook because it's NOT a PC and DOES NOT run Windows.
I'm not "prone" to violence but I'm certainly not above it when the situation calls for it.
We're going to have to learn how to manage this because for the most part, the parents aren't going to do it. This is especially true when the parent is a 15 year old girl that saw the father once or twice and managed to get pregnant.
It's not our place to manage it. Period. If society wants to be in the crapper, it's not the job of the government to decide what is moral and right. We own THEM not the other way around.
And by the way, I was a teenage parent at 15. My oldest daughter was born a couple months after my 15th birthday. I dropped out immediately, got an A+ cert and a job as a PC tech/embedded hardware tech and within a year and a half I was in the IT Dept as a Jr. Admin.
Just because you're young doesn't make you clueless and just because you have a lapse in judgement doesn't make you a useless moron for life unless you LET it happen.
I'm a damn good parent and I've had to fight for everything I have twice as hard as anyone else and still generally got treated worse than everyone else. I was walked on and taken advantage of quite a bit just because the company knew they had me by the balls and getting another tech job would be difficult.
I don't care how bad things get, government intervention in every aspect of daily life is not the answer. It's just a road to tyranny, stress and poor quality of life.
I absolutely DARE some school official to try this with my kids. I don't play the stupid game where they think they have even an ounce of authority over what my child does after stepping off the bus. In fact, if they punished my son for anything he did at home, I'll buy him ice cream for every day he's suspended and encourage him to make noise about it and resist in a smug, non-violent way as well as writing every official, politician and journalist I can find in a 100 mile radius. And then, I'll just be getting started. I'm not afraid of DSS either. I even *gasp* spank my kids.
The problem is sticking up for yourself and actually exercising your rights gets you branded as a radical, a criminal or a terrorist. This needs to end. I'm willing to live a harder life to live it with my liberty, pride and self-respect intact and I have. I've lost jobs, promotions, etc solely on sticking to values and principals and refusing to do the wrong thing. It's cost me.....dearly in some cases but at least I can honestly say that I'm free. There used to be a lot of people like this.
The school's job is to pour a bit of knowledge in his head. Teaching morality and values is the parent's job. They need to stay the hell off of my turf and stop overstepping their bounds. Period. What my son's personality is like, his habits, etc is none of their business outside that building.
The feds beat them to it a long time ago..... but they will probably just throw you in prison for 20 years. Amazing that I can be jailed for this longer than I can be jailed for attempted murder. Just for ADVOCATING revolution. This is disgusting. I feel a storm brewing.
TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 115 > 2385
2385. Advocating overthrow of Government
Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or
Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or
Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
The 4th amendment does not apply. As with every other country, the US considers domestic law to only apply when you are inside the country. If you have not yet cleared customs, you are technically not in the country. Therefore, you do not benefit from the protections of domestic law. This may seem like quibbling, but it is how every country controls its borders.
Does this mean that someone could shoot customs agents before they clear customs and not be prosecuted for murder since they are not subject to domestic law and its protections? They can't have their cake and eat it too. Either we all have rights or no one has rights. That includes THEIR rights.
So why do they want Netflix to die and PirateBay to have one more good reason to exist?