I really don't know how one company's "good" name can dissuade those with decision making power (read: IT departments) to not choose a more secure solution for their firms/comapnies/clients. I mean, it's kind of important.
Maybe this is the software equivalent of "it's not what you know, it's who you know."
(Btw, you really can't compare Communicator's mail program to Outlook in terms of features and functionality, unless you meant Outlook Express.)
I've been a die-hard nintendo fan for a long time. I'm sorry, but the company that gave me the Mario series, and the Zelda series will always have my loyalty. However, it looks like I'm being childish in not buying a PS2, because the good games count is going up.
If supporting both platforms makes me a turncoat, well so be it.
The whole napster thing was one small part of the already huge music industry. When you compare the number of people that used napster to the number of mindless drones watching MTV, and buying whatever Carson Daily tells them to, you'll realize that the industry is not going to be noticably hurt. (And even if they are hurt by napster users not buying anything anymore, they would claim otherwise, so they could get support for the "napster hurt our business, and sales increased now that it is dead" argument).
stating that Linux is still not as user friendly as other OSes
Dude, give me a break. Compare Compiling and installing nvidia drivers by hand, to sticking in a CDROM and pointing and clicking. Compare using
xvidtune to stretch your X viewable area to the extents of your monitor, to right clicking on the desktop and pointing and clicking. Compare using apt or rpm (and dont quote me frontends to those, because frontend's SUCK) to sticking in a CD and pointing and clicking.
"But you have to reboot for all of those!" I hear you say. Is it easier for Joe Idiot to reboot, or to remember to su every time he needs to do one of the above?
A lot of day-to-day operations/commands have to be performed in an MS-way, and I can't customize. Now ask yourself how many of those "day-to-day" commands are A) caused by using linux or B) not of any interest to Joe AOL. All of them.
My point is that the target audience for linux is not the desktop user, it's the power user who wants to hack everything he sees. To me, attempting to jam "user friendliness" into an OS that has never meant or required user friendliness is like jamming a square piece into a round hole.
(And I have one of those rainbirds too. I think they fucked up that thing's design bad. They attemped to make it for every body to use, but they failed. Bad design doesn't prove your point about user-friendliness though.)
"If it works so well why the hell are you not off doing that?"
Reminds me of the guy (urban legend?) who took out a newspaper ad saying "Send me $1, and I'll tell you how to make millions." To every $1 donater, he sent a letter saying "Do what I did: take out a newspaper ad, "
2500 Euro? For some guy's spare time project?Cripes.
Hold it right there. If everyone here is always praising free software, then you can't turn around and claim that Adobe shouldn't treat this particular project with the same amount of seriousness as it would any other (commercial) competitor. You don't know if KIllustrator is tomorrow's wonder-project, that everyone knows about (e.g. Linux kernel). If you can sing the praises of free software 24-hours a day, then Adobe has every right to treat this as a threat, and better to take care of it now then later.
If this is how companies are going to try to kill free software, we need to establish a pool of good software names that no one has trademark claims to and nail them down.
You think?
People should stop ripping off names (and consequently, attempts at name-recognition) and do exactly what you suggest.
(And imagine if Adobe tried to rippoff the name of a free-software project. Wouldn't all of/. be up in arms with pitch forks and torches?)
Killustrator is not a competing product to Adobe Illustrator (I assume that's what you meant.) It can't be - the two products do not even run under the same operating system.
I agree totally. In fact, Linux and Windows are not competitors either, they run on different operating systems.
How about a couple days ago, a bug that crept in to pam-modules (or something similar) that killed all logins, or 'su' requests, that I only saw after an 'upgrade'? I was lucky I already had a root rxvt running, so I could upgrade the broken package! The screwedness rating would have been pretty high, if I didn't...
It seems to me that companies with centralized control mechanisms are much much better suited to responding to industry threats. Meanwhile, all the "open-source movement" does is look up "interesting reads" on slashdot. What's the damn point? Who's going to counter any move by a single company with a single focus? Even if an alternative strategy comes up to attack the various upcoming microsoft initiatives, there's bound to be endless complaining, and back-and-forth. "Well, it uses a BSD license" or "Well, it's GNOME and I like KDE" or "Well, it would be better done in X fashion" ad nauseum.
Blah. I just have to get this off my chest, I guess, but I think there's a lot more pointless hot air in the "open-source movement" floating around in discussions and debates, while companies worried about bottom lines are getting shit done, like, now. In my mind, it's been proven that companies with some financial interest in their product put in more effort and produce high quality, useable (read: not fucking beta!) stuff.
The error message that the Napster server gives you is: "::: server / You must upgrade your client at http://www.napster.com::: error / You must upgrade your client at http://www.napster.com"
Actually, this is not true. I just tried it, and the actual error message is:
::: server / Why are you still using this service? Napster officially sucks.
Since works created using the free edition of Qt themselves have to be free, this makes sense: no one will be making money off of their works. I just hope this is not a sign of trouble at trolltech. They put out a great product that gets a lot less respect than it deserves; I hope they make some money off of it.
You mean to tell me that someone on this damn site thinks for themselves, instead of spitting out the same open-everything, anti-corporatism, "fuck steve case" bull shit? I'm amazed and surprised.
GAIM is not similar to AIM? Get a fucking clue people.
On one side, you have high priced lawyers. And on the other, since you don't want to "fork any of your money to lawyers" you represent yourselft. (And you would be working normally instead of sitting in court for 3 weeks, right? Wouldn't that cost you?) They're going to have at least some well-formed arguemnt, they're going to quote some previous cases, and you're going to quote "fuck you guys!"
You're going to lose. The court is going to force you to change the damn name.
Have I ever been to court? Only the court of common sense.
I don't remember where I was when Quake was released, but I do remember what it felt like the first time I saw OpenGL quake! DAMN!! It was on a Monster card, created by 3dfx [sniffle], with 8 Megs of ram, if I'm not mistaken. Talk about a renaissance!
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This is like the second time I've ever laughed out loud at a slashdot post.
The problem is, I think, that you can only copy/paste text in between applications under X. There's no concept of different mime-type copying, such as img/* or ole/table. Am I right in assuming this? ---
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I really don't know how one company's "good" name can dissuade those with decision making power (read: IT departments) to not choose a more secure solution for their firms/comapnies/clients. I mean, it's kind of important.
Maybe this is the software equivalent of "it's not what you know, it's who you know."
(Btw, you really can't compare Communicator's mail program to Outlook in terms of features and functionality, unless you meant Outlook Express.)
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You're the guy they made this for!
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I've been a die-hard nintendo fan for a long time. I'm sorry, but the company that gave me the Mario series, and the Zelda series will always have my loyalty. However, it looks like I'm being childish in not buying a PS2, because the good games count is going up.
If supporting both platforms makes me a turncoat, well so be it.
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Will someone please point me to the line I have to add to my source.list?
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he drank battery
WTF is battery?
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Maybe so, but in microsoft's case, "profit warning" means "we'll make 4 billion instead of 5."
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I stopped buying new CDs when Napster went away
The whole napster thing was one small part of the already huge music industry. When you compare the number of people that used napster to the number of mindless drones watching MTV, and buying whatever Carson Daily tells them to, you'll realize that the industry is not going to be noticably hurt. (And even if they are hurt by napster users not buying anything anymore, they would claim otherwise, so they could get support for the "napster hurt our business, and sales increased now that it is dead" argument).
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stating that Linux is still not as user friendly as other OSes
Dude, give me a break. Compare Compiling and installing nvidia drivers by hand, to sticking in a CDROM and pointing and clicking. Compare using
xvidtune to stretch your X viewable area to the extents of your monitor, to right clicking on the desktop and pointing and clicking. Compare using apt or rpm (and dont quote me frontends to those, because frontend's SUCK) to sticking in a CD and pointing and clicking.
"But you have to reboot for all of those!" I hear you say. Is it easier for Joe Idiot to reboot, or to remember to su every time he needs to do one of the above?
A lot of day-to-day operations/commands have to be performed in an MS-way, and I can't customize.
Now ask yourself how many of those "day-to-day" commands are A) caused by using linux or B) not of any interest to Joe AOL. All of them.
My point is that the target audience for linux is not the desktop user, it's the power user who wants to hack everything he sees. To me, attempting to jam "user friendliness" into an OS that has never meant or required user friendliness is like jamming a square piece into a round hole.
(And I have one of those rainbirds too. I think they fucked up that thing's design bad. They attemped to make it for every body to use, but they failed. Bad design doesn't prove your point about user-friendliness though.)
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Personally, I think girl/girl scenes are a little boring. I mean, what's the punch line, what's the climax, what's the ending, what's the point?
I can't sit through a "Where the boys arent" for the life of me...
(I'm not afraid to admit either, no Anonymous posting for me!)
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"If it works so well why the hell are you not off doing that?"
Reminds me of the guy (urban legend?) who took out a newspaper ad saying "Send me $1, and I'll tell you how to make millions." To every $1 donater, he sent a letter saying "Do what I did: take out a newspaper ad, "
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2500 Euro? For some guy's spare time project?Cripes.
/. be up in arms with pitch forks and torches?)
Hold it right there. If everyone here is always praising free software, then you can't turn around and claim that Adobe shouldn't treat this particular project with the same amount of seriousness as it would any other (commercial) competitor. You don't know if KIllustrator is tomorrow's wonder-project, that everyone knows about (e.g. Linux kernel). If you can sing the praises of free software 24-hours a day, then Adobe has every right to treat this as a threat, and better to take care of it now then later.
If this is how companies are going to try to kill free software, we need to establish a pool of good software names that no one has trademark claims to and nail them down.
You think?
People should stop ripping off names (and consequently, attempts at name-recognition) and do exactly what you suggest.
(And imagine if Adobe tried to rippoff the name of a free-software project. Wouldn't all of
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Killustrator is not a competing product to Adobe Illustrator (I assume that's what you meant.) It can't be - the two products do not even run under the same operating system.
I agree totally. In fact, Linux and Windows are not competitors either, they run on different operating systems.
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How about a couple days ago, a bug that crept in to pam-modules (or something similar) that killed all logins, or 'su' requests, that I only saw after an 'upgrade'? I was lucky I already had a root rxvt running, so I could upgrade the broken package! The screwedness rating would have been pretty high, if I didn't...
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Seriously. Are the freaking buttons that far from the cursor? Are you that hard-pressed for saving .05 seconds for mouse-moving?
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What an excellent analogy, worthy of a contentless post. (no sarcasm either)
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It seems to me that companies with centralized control mechanisms are much much better suited to responding to industry threats. Meanwhile, all the "open-source movement" does is look up "interesting reads" on slashdot. What's the damn point? Who's going to counter any move by a single company with a single focus? Even if an alternative strategy comes up to attack the various upcoming microsoft initiatives, there's bound to be endless complaining, and back-and-forth. "Well, it uses a BSD license" or "Well, it's GNOME and I like KDE" or "Well, it would be better done in X fashion" ad nauseum.
Blah. I just have to get this off my chest, I guess, but I think there's a lot more pointless hot air in the "open-source movement" floating around in discussions and debates, while companies worried about bottom lines are getting shit done, like, now. In my mind, it's been proven that companies with some financial interest in their product put in more effort and produce high quality, useable (read: not fucking beta!) stuff.
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Even I agree that this is overrated.
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The error message that the Napster server gives you is: "::: server / You must upgrade your client at http://www.napster.com ::: error / You must upgrade your client at http://www.napster.com"
Actually, this is not true. I just tried it, and the actual error message is:
::: server / Why are you still using this service? Napster officially sucks.
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Since works created using the free edition of Qt themselves have to be free, this makes sense: no one will be making money off of their works. I just hope this is not a sign of trouble at trolltech. They put out a great product that gets a lot less respect than it deserves; I hope they make some money off of it.
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You mean to tell me that someone on this damn site thinks for themselves, instead of spitting out the same open-everything, anti-corporatism, "fuck steve case" bull shit? I'm amazed and surprised.
GAIM is not similar to AIM? Get a fucking clue people.
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On one side, you have high priced lawyers. And on the other, since you don't want to "fork any of your money to lawyers" you represent yourselft. (And you would be working normally instead of sitting in court for 3 weeks, right? Wouldn't that cost you?) They're going to have at least some well-formed arguemnt, they're going to quote some previous cases, and you're going to quote "fuck you guys!"
You're going to lose. The court is going to force you to change the damn name.
Have I ever been to court? Only the court of common sense.
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I don't remember where I was when Quake was released, but I do remember what it felt like the first time I saw OpenGL quake! DAMN!! It was on a Monster card, created by 3dfx [sniffle], with 8 Megs of ram, if I'm not mistaken. Talk about a renaissance!
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This is like the second time I've ever laughed out loud at a slashdot post.
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The problem is, I think, that you can only copy/paste text in between applications under X. There's no concept of different mime-type copying, such as img/* or ole/table. Am I right in assuming this?
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Nice! I'm saving that one. I was doing it with find and a script:
#!/bin/sh
cat $1 | sed "s/$2/$3/g" >> $1.1
mv -f "$1.1" $1
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