What the hell is floss? Neither in the main blurb nor in the article about it does it specify what floss is. And because they named it with a completely generic word, my google search gave hundreds of dentistry-related sites.
Lame.
Your arguments aren't bad, because it's true that people will always want more, but at a certain point capacity will be a non-issue. You don't compress text files, do you, or HTML? Of course not. Capacity is huge by comparison. In the near future with MRAM or polymer it will be huge compared to current video standards.
In addition, I expect there will be at least factor you aren't considering that determines how things will go.
Namely, as with audio there will always be purists who demand perfection. In the future, with lossless compression and large capacity fast media, a Huffyav-like compression will be able to please the purists and perhaps a more educated public as well.
For this moment though, we are stuck with Divx, and that's not bad (after three passes).
I agree. In Germany this is an established practice and it works well for cheap items. They call it putting out the "Sperrmuell". When I lived there I got several decent chairs that way.
I've seen it a hundred times, people never want to give freebies to the poor in America. This is worse on the West Coast but it's generally true. They will give things away to schools, to nonprofits, to immigrants even, but native-born poor people are often cut out of the loop. I say, put an ad in the paper that says "free computers to any individuals who need them".
One day you'll look back on this and wonder why you ever wasted your time worrying about compression. When ten movies fit on one disk/whatever without compression, giving crystal-clear video, no one will think "yes, let's compress that!".
Bandwidth: the CPU, memory and video can already handle the bandwidth of uncompressed video. The trick will be getting the new storage system to provide it fast enough. If IBM's new technology can't do it, another one called MRAM will be able to.
But let us suppose that we were to accept a small amount of lossless compression, like Huffyav. That would ease the immediate burden substantially for the near term. But I don't think compression will ultimately be necessary.
An hour of uncompressed video takes up about 70 gb
Let me see. 720x480x2 (16 bit color) = 691200 = 675kB per frame. 24 frames per second for a Hollywood movie = 15.82 MB per second. Times 3600 for an hour is 55.62 GB without sound.
Therefore, a two-hour movie is 111.2 GB without sound. If we kind on sound and compress that, for the joy of having perfect DVD-level video, I'm not far from my original estimation.
If you get greedy and desire 24-bit color, that will cost more, 166 GB per two hours.
I've read twice now in the media that the bandwidth of the fiber-optic systems now in place is only about 5% in use. Despite that, not all connections are fiber-optic yet. For the internet I admit, divx will be the answer for the time being.
Actually I am a programmer. I remember when people said 56k modems would overload the CPU. Heck I remember when 2400 baud modems actually did overwhelm CPUs. The fact is, CPUs can already handle the bandwidth of uncompressed video and future CPUs will barely blink at video, just as today audio hardly affects CPU load. So do some research before you pretend you know, sonny.
The problem is that anyone can create bogus emails, thereby masking their own identity. Well surely there is a technical solution to this, such as abandoning the current mail protocols to prevent people from submitting emails with fake identifying info, or from submitting emails from bogus IPs. But where is there any progress along these lines?
KDE has its origins in paywareland and is therefore tainted. I do recall it had a tendency to exhibit a Windows-like temptation to bomb completely when just one KDE program bomb.
Gnome is C-based and last I checked, not the friendliest system to write code for. Have things changed? It is up to par yet? I doubt it.
My question is, what would be wrong with just going with Motif, since it is now free and it has been tested for years. It is reliable and easy to program for. Why reinvent the wheel?
I suggest every American write to their congressional representative (I did) and complain that outsourcing has resulted in our tax and medical records going overseas. There is ample proof to support this claim, so let's act now to combat is nasty example of globalization.
Sometimes people just do stuff because they already have the hardware, they know it well, and it gives them a buzz.
That's quite true, I've thought about numerous "useless" projects myself, like screwing around with my old 386 laptop.
My point however was, ultimately things are leading to convergence of portable devices. We can wait for industry to do it, or we can "have fun" beating them to it.
Of course they would promote a product that makes money for people, instead of a genuinely useful product that makes money for no one, like a good ripping utility. For the Rest of Us, who will never make fortunes like Jobs did, ripping is the Killer App.
I simply cannot imagine devoting any of my personal time to developing an open source CPU core. OpenRISC is clearly a project for unimaginitive people with too much time to spare.
IMO, there is no heaven or hell. Paradise is what you make for yourself here on Earth. If that process involves pain (stress), then it is a good kind if and only if it is an essential experience for you, true to your deepest self.
Now, Apple pretends to offer a kind of paradise for users, a simpler, glossier interface, nicer manuals, but really it is just lining its corporate pockets.
Paradise is something you make yourself... you don't buy it, you don't find it in a church.
Why should I have to enslave myself to Apple and its Barfintosh ethos (which is expressed: money money money...for us), when I can more easily plunk down a lot less money for any of the new hard drive based MP3 players which come with no strings attached?
You make a foolish claim when you say that I "chose" capitalism. I did not. Nor did I choose its ugly side. You might as well tell someone suffering from pneumonia that they chose it. And capitalism in its American form, which so many other countries think is so perfect that they fill out business schools with their foreign students, is indeed like a disease. Corporations of all nationalities infect our democracy like some fungal rot and have taken over its thinking capacity to serve itself. And most likely they infect your system too.
But does Andresson have anything useful to say about the thousands left unemployed by the dot-bomb debacle, or the devastating effect it had on silly-con valley? And do his well-respected insights acknowledge the sad fact that American computer companies gladly replaced American tech workers with foreignors in order to save literally only a few thousand dollars on taxes? Does he have anything to say about the evils of corporate greed or the neglect of human need that have long characterized the American economy?
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What the hell is floss? Neither in the main blurb nor in the article about it does it specify what floss is. And because they named it with a completely generic word, my google search gave hundreds of dentistry-related sites. Lame.
You must keep the faith. Technology will adapt to suit your needs. Even your DSL.
Your arguments aren't bad, because it's true that people will always want more, but at a certain point capacity will be a non-issue. You don't compress text files, do you, or HTML? Of course not. Capacity is huge by comparison. In the near future with MRAM or polymer it will be huge compared to current video standards.
In addition, I expect there will be at least factor you aren't considering that determines how things will go.
Namely, as with audio there will always be purists who demand perfection. In the future, with lossless compression and large capacity fast media, a Huffyav-like compression will be able to please the purists and perhaps a more educated public as well.
For this moment though, we are stuck with Divx, and that's not bad (after three passes).
I agree. In Germany this is an established practice and it works well for cheap items. They call it putting out the "Sperrmuell". When I lived there I got several decent chairs that way.
I've seen it a hundred times, people never want to give freebies to the poor in America. This is worse on the West Coast but it's generally true. They will give things away to schools, to nonprofits, to immigrants even, but native-born poor people are often cut out of the loop. I say, put an ad in the paper that says "free computers to any individuals who need them".
Happy solstice and present-exchange day.
One day you'll look back on this and wonder why you ever wasted your time worrying about compression. When ten movies fit on one disk/whatever without compression, giving crystal-clear video, no one will think "yes, let's compress that!".
But let us suppose that we were to accept a small amount of lossless compression, like Huffyav. That would ease the immediate burden substantially for the near term. But I don't think compression will ultimately be necessary.
Let me see. 720x480x2 (16 bit color) = 691200 = 675kB per frame. 24 frames per second for a Hollywood movie = 15.82 MB per second. Times 3600 for an hour is 55.62 GB without sound.
Therefore, a two-hour movie is 111.2 GB without sound. If we kind on sound and compress that, for the joy of having perfect DVD-level video, I'm not far from my original estimation.
If you get greedy and desire 24-bit color, that will cost more, 166 GB per two hours.
I've read twice now in the media that the bandwidth of the fiber-optic systems now in place is only about 5% in use. Despite that, not all connections are fiber-optic yet. For the internet I admit, divx will be the answer for the time being.
Actually I am a programmer. I remember when people said 56k modems would overload the CPU. Heck I remember when 2400 baud modems actually did overwhelm CPUs. The fact is, CPUs can already handle the bandwidth of uncompressed video and future CPUs will barely blink at video, just as today audio hardly affects CPU load. So do some research before you pretend you know, sonny.
When we have media that hold 100+ gigs rather than a niggly 5-10 gigs at the same price, compression will serve no useful purpose.
The problem is that anyone can create bogus emails, thereby masking their own identity. Well surely there is a technical solution to this, such as abandoning the current mail protocols to prevent people from submitting emails with fake identifying info, or from submitting emails from bogus IPs. But where is there any progress along these lines?
Gnome is C-based and last I checked, not the friendliest system to write code for. Have things changed? It is up to par yet? I doubt it.
My question is, what would be wrong with just going with Motif, since it is now free and it has been tested for years. It is reliable and easy to program for. Why reinvent the wheel?
I suggest every American write to their congressional representative (I did) and complain that outsourcing has resulted in our tax and medical records going overseas. There is ample proof to support this claim, so let's act now to combat is nasty example of globalization.
That's quite true, I've thought about numerous "useless" projects myself, like screwing around with my old 386 laptop.
My point however was, ultimately things are leading to convergence of portable devices. We can wait for industry to do it, or we can "have fun" beating them to it.
What you people should be doing is hacking one of those DVD-based video players with the 10 inch screens, adding a USB port or something.
Future PDAs will be converged devices, with phones, cameras, and DVD....at least until MRAM arrives.
Of course they would promote a product that makes money for people, instead of a genuinely useful product that makes money for no one, like a good ripping utility. For the Rest of Us, who will never make fortunes like Jobs did, ripping is the Killer App.
There's nothing wrong with philosophical discussions, if that's what sig lines lead to.
I simply cannot imagine devoting any of my personal time to developing an open source CPU core. OpenRISC is clearly a project for unimaginitive people with too much time to spare.
He's not justifying himself. He's excusing himself, letting himself off the hook. Big difference.
IMO, there is no heaven or hell. Paradise is what you make for yourself here on Earth. If that process involves pain (stress), then it is a good kind if and only if it is an essential experience for you, true to your deepest self.
Now, Apple pretends to offer a kind of paradise for users, a simpler, glossier interface, nicer manuals, but really it is just lining its corporate pockets.
Paradise is something you make yourself... you don't buy it, you don't find it in a church.
Why should I have to enslave myself to Apple and its Barfintosh ethos (which is expressed: money money money...for us), when I can more easily plunk down a lot less money for any of the new hard drive based MP3 players which come with no strings attached?
You make a foolish claim when you say that I "chose" capitalism. I did not. Nor did I choose its ugly side. You might as well tell someone suffering from pneumonia that they chose it. And capitalism in its American form, which so many other countries think is so perfect that they fill out business schools with their foreign students, is indeed like a disease. Corporations of all nationalities infect our democracy like some fungal rot and have taken over its thinking capacity to serve itself. And most likely they infect your system too.
But does Andresson have anything useful to say about the thousands left unemployed by the dot-bomb debacle, or the devastating effect it had on silly-con valley? And do his well-respected insights acknowledge the sad fact that American computer companies gladly replaced American tech workers with foreignors in order to save literally only a few thousand dollars on taxes? Does he have anything to say about the evils of corporate greed or the neglect of human need that have long characterized the American economy?