I understand that, but the parent was was asking "what did I steal or take away from you?" thats why I replied with things that were actually taken or consumed in some way.
That being said, breaking into a house, and connecting to somoenes unsecured wireless network are completly different thigns. If you do nothing to prevent people from connecting to your network, no MAC filtering, no encryption, nothing at all, people sitting in the park next door, accross the street, or walking by, should be able to reasonably expect that they are not goign against your wished by connecting to the internet through your network.
Saying otherwise would be like putting a bench in a public park so that you could use it when you go to that park, and then expecting that when you're not there, nobody else would sit on the bench. Its completly unreasonable. Hell, you could even just change SSID of the network to PRIVATE, or DO NOT CONNECT or somthign like that and then you could have some expectation that people would realize that the network is not set up for their use. But if you do nothing, leave the SSID at it default value (or change it to somthign with no hint that its intended to be private, and Jeff's Network or such doesnt count) then you should expect that people will use the internet through your connection.
If I lounge in your house or borrow your car while you are on vacation what did I steal or take away from you?
Lets see, you put wear on the car, used up gas, probabally messed up the couch cushions, and wore down the couch cushions slightly more. Compare that to wifi, um maybe the AP got 1/2 a degree hotter due to the extra use?
Yeah, when I originally posted I was thinking more along the lines of what Lord_Dweomer said he was doing the show for, a school project.
For a commercial venture, you would need a better way of tracking. You could never get 100% measurement, someone can always serve up your file elsewhere, but you could change the packeging a little bit. You could always require a password to open the rar file containing the video or somthign. Not that I like the idea, passwords always piss me off on torrents ive downloaded, but theoretically, you could just have a link to a website within the download. Make it so all the site contains is the password, a hit counter, and maybe a link to your forums or the rest of your site. Make sure the password is apparent right away though, what pisses me offf the most about passworded downlaods is that you usually have to navigate through a giant website, sign up for their forums, and jump through a few more hoops before you get anythign.
but who says that we need to profit from it? Some people like to write for fun, some people like to paint or sculp, some people just like to make movies. We can entertain and inform ourselves without lining someone elses pocket. It is a legal way to pass the time (not that too many corporations would be happy should free entertainment become mainstream).
"They worked on hybrid cars, and other things almost twenty years ago, and technology hasn't changed in any signifigant respect to make them much more viable now then they were back then."
I agree with you in that a contest in this area would likely bring forth lots of good new ideas. The unfortuante part (as I see it) that I dont think the industry would jump to take advantage of these ideas. The car companies could have been producing more efficient cars years ago, but the problem is, they dont want too. When you're an enormous industry making tons of money already, there is little if any incentive for change and innovation. The addage "dont fix it if it aint broke" seems to describe their point of view.
Unless you think a small corporation who makes this breakthrough could manage to get the capital and infrastructure to start producing them on mass, and at a viable price for consumers. In that case, go ahead and give them the money.
The best solution? Have two prizes. We need to promote research into things that will help us in the short and long term.
The problem is, taking your example of cars. If you design and build a new car with better fuel efficiency, no one will care. The big car companies are the only ones who can produce enough of these cars to make them economically feasable for the consumer, and they're already putting much more money into R&D than any small company who could actually use the $10 mil.
I say, keep the contest going evey year as it is, but introduce a new prize 5 years down the road or so with higher goals in mind (orbit if its at all feasable). That way you still get new players entering the game looking to get in on the first prize, and you can keep the established teams reaching further and further.
We dont just need one company who can go into orbit, we need lots of them. And untill investors see profits starting to roll in from the early runners, capital for new projects will be harder to come by.
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My physics knowledge is a bit rusty, but I think you can say that if your heating system is based on electricity then it will cost you nothing extra to run your PC.
It won't cost you nothing, but it will cost you less. Assuming of course that your furnace is a more efficient heater than your PC. Which makes sense, your furnace is designed for it. Fans and coolant systems on a PC are designed to dissapate heat, but some of that electrical energy is actually going into making your calcualtions, pumping sound through the speakers, and lighting up your display.
Also, it gets worse. Not only do you have to pay for the extra power used by your computer, but if you live somewhere hot, you'll have to pay for the extra air conditioning needed (after all, 200 watts of power used by your computer = 200 watts of heat generated.)
You've got a point there, but then again if you dont live somewhere hot it could have the complete opposite effect. (Well maybe thats an exageration). The heat put out by your computer is definatly not as efficient as your electric or gas heater, but then again it does heat the house. It might not save you money, but the amount of energy you need to pump in to the furnace would go down, and that should halp to balance out with the extra money you're paying to keep your computer running.
sounds like Contact (the book version not the movie) where the alien society was tring to decode a message encoded in the digits of pi in the same manor that the people on earth were decoding the message from within a tv broadcast
In the Foundation series, science and maths were used to predict and plan the development of societies, a device that Mark Brake, professor of science communication at the University of Glamorgan, thinks may be a touch heavy-handed: "We can't even predict a flood in Boscastle, let alone how a society behaves a thousand years in the future."
"I predict that people in the future wont be able to predict the future"
You might be a bit suprised. Yes we're out and about alot, but at least when I was living in residence, your computer becomes the be-all entertainment device. Playing music, watching movies and shows, even if you're not actually working at the computer. Its pretty convenient when the PCs 2 feet from your bed in a room small enough to be considered a walk in closet.
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I mean to add, theat therefor sports are not a subset of games, just two seporate, overlapping sets.
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But some sports are not games. track, canoeing/kayaking swimming. These things arnt games, but they are sports.
Maybe its just me, but I always thought school sales was refering too all the college and univeristy kids who need to buy a new computer to take with them when they go back to school in the fall.
Im thinking you're alot clser to the mark than the parent. Although to be truthfull, PSP isnt out yet, and the market for this device hasnt really been defined yet (for the media aspects anyway, im not sure if this windows thing will have console-esque gamers) so theres still alot of freedom there. Looks to me like the perfect type of thing to take on long bus/train/plane rides.
but why would you ignore them? brownie pints for being the original system the progeam was designed for dont mean shit. Its the final product. Does it run? Is it fast enought you use? Then who cares what is was originally written for.
That pretty effectively prohibits you from routing anything or connecting more than 1 computer to your network jack (which you couldn't do without a router anyway, since you have to register your MAC addy before you can use the network)
That said, most routers allow you to directly enter the MAC address you want the outside network to see. At least my linksys does. Plug in you computer once, find the MAC address, then type it into your router before hooking it into the network and you're set.
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Are you saying you cant read Slashdot in Firefox? Its all I ever use.
That being said, breaking into a house, and connecting to somoenes unsecured wireless network are completly different thigns. If you do nothing to prevent people from connecting to your network, no MAC filtering, no encryption, nothing at all, people sitting in the park next door, accross the street, or walking by, should be able to reasonably expect that they are not goign against your wished by connecting to the internet through your network.
Saying otherwise would be like putting a bench in a public park so that you could use it when you go to that park, and then expecting that when you're not there, nobody else would sit on the bench. Its completly unreasonable. Hell, you could even just change SSID of the network to PRIVATE, or DO NOT CONNECT or somthign like that and then you could have some expectation that people would realize that the network is not set up for their use. But if you do nothing, leave the SSID at it default value (or change it to somthign with no hint that its intended to be private, and Jeff's Network or such doesnt count) then you should expect that people will use the internet through your connection.
Lets see, you put wear on the car, used up gas, probabally messed up the couch cushions, and wore down the couch cushions slightly more. Compare that to wifi, um maybe the AP got 1/2 a degree hotter due to the extra use?
For a commercial venture, you would need a better way of tracking. You could never get 100% measurement, someone can always serve up your file elsewhere, but you could change the packeging a little bit. You could always require a password to open the rar file containing the video or somthign. Not that I like the idea, passwords always piss me off on torrents ive downloaded, but theoretically, you could just have a link to a website within the download. Make it so all the site contains is the password, a hit counter, and maybe a link to your forums or the rest of your site. Make sure the password is apparent right away though, what pisses me offf the most about passworded downlaods is that you usually have to navigate through a giant website, sign up for their forums, and jump through a few more hoops before you get anythign.
I know this is slashdot, and evrey scheme needs the required
Step 1: blah blah blah
Step 2: blah blah
Step 3: ?????
Step 4: PROFIT!!!!!!!!!!!
but who says that we need to profit from it? Some people like to write for fun, some people like to paint or sculp, some people just like to make movies. We can entertain and inform ourselves without lining someone elses pocket. It is a legal way to pass the time (not that too many corporations would be happy should free entertainment become mainstream).
I agree with you in that a contest in this area would likely bring forth lots of good new ideas. The unfortuante part (as I see it) that I dont think the industry would jump to take advantage of these ideas. The car companies could have been producing more efficient cars years ago, but the problem is, they dont want too. When you're an enormous industry making tons of money already, there is little if any incentive for change and innovation. The addage "dont fix it if it aint broke" seems to describe their point of view.
Unless you think a small corporation who makes this breakthrough could manage to get the capital and infrastructure to start producing them on mass, and at a viable price for consumers. In that case, go ahead and give them the money.
The best solution? Have two prizes. We need to promote research into things that will help us in the short and long term.
at the end of the show post a link to a forum youve set up so people can comment on it?
doesnt seem to hard too me
I say, keep the contest going evey year as it is, but introduce a new prize 5 years down the road or so with higher goals in mind (orbit if its at all feasable). That way you still get new players entering the game looking to get in on the first prize, and you can keep the established teams reaching further and further.
We dont just need one company who can go into orbit, we need lots of them. And untill investors see profits starting to roll in from the early runners, capital for new projects will be harder to come by.
It won't cost you nothing, but it will cost you less. Assuming of course that your furnace is a more efficient heater than your PC. Which makes sense, your furnace is designed for it. Fans and coolant systems on a PC are designed to dissapate heat, but some of that electrical energy is actually going into making your calcualtions, pumping sound through the speakers, and lighting up your display.
Also, it gets worse. Not only do you have to pay for the extra power used by your computer, but if you live somewhere hot, you'll have to pay for the extra air conditioning needed (after all, 200 watts of power used by your computer = 200 watts of heat generated.)
You've got a point there, but then again if you dont live somewhere hot it could have the complete opposite effect. (Well maybe thats an exageration). The heat put out by your computer is definatly not as efficient as your electric or gas heater, but then again it does heat the house. It might not save you money, but the amount of energy you need to pump in to the furnace would go down, and that should halp to balance out with the extra money you're paying to keep your computer running.
yeah... i dont think YOU could actually do it at life+70, you'd be dead.
sounds like Contact (the book version not the movie) where the alien society was tring to decode a message encoded in the digits of pi in the same manor that the people on earth were decoding the message from within a tv broadcast
your point? early adapters means that they start using it first. someone has to be first
In the Foundation series, science and maths were used to predict and plan the development of societies, a device that Mark Brake, professor of science communication at the University of Glamorgan, thinks may be a touch heavy-handed: "We can't even predict a flood in Boscastle, let alone how a society behaves a thousand years in the future."
"I predict that people in the future wont be able to predict the future"
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You might be a bit suprised. Yes we're out and about alot, but at least when I was living in residence, your computer becomes the be-all entertainment device. Playing music, watching movies and shows, even if you're not actually working at the computer. Its pretty convenient when the PCs 2 feet from your bed in a room small enough to be considered a walk in closet.
I mean to add, theat therefor sports are not a subset of games, just two seporate, overlapping sets.
But some sports are not games. track, canoeing/kayaking swimming. These things arnt games, but they are sports.
I grabbed the rest of them from someone elses mirror so they should all be up there now.
I wonder how long it'll get to kill my host :)
I've never denied either. Neither do most people I know (although one of the two is rarely talked about).
Maybe its just me, but I always thought school sales was refering too all the college and univeristy kids who need to buy a new computer to take with them when they go back to school in the fall.
Im thinking you're alot clser to the mark than the parent. Although to be truthfull, PSP isnt out yet, and the market for this device hasnt really been defined yet (for the media aspects anyway, im not sure if this windows thing will have console-esque gamers) so theres still alot of freedom there. Looks to me like the perfect type of thing to take on long bus/train/plane rides.
but why would you ignore them? brownie pints for being the original system the progeam was designed for dont mean shit. Its the final product. Does it run? Is it fast enought you use? Then who cares what is was originally written for.
That said, most routers allow you to directly enter the MAC address you want the outside network to see. At least my linksys does. Plug in you computer once, find the MAC address, then type it into your router before hooking it into the network and you're set.