I'm not sure that I'd agree completely with that. You'll always find a discriminating group of people who want to read the book before or even after seeing the movie. While a good number of children probably read very little, I know the school systems will continue to push reading for pleasure to students. My two children have standing assignments to read for at least 15 minutes a day and to document the completion of the book. We even allow our kids to read before going to sleep (thus pushing their real bedtime back to 10 - 10:30 PM some nights). Maybe my kids are odd, but I have to imagine that a lot of parents encourage their children to read, but the media focuses on the ones who aren't reading.
I have my inlaws running Netscape rather than IE for a similar situation where they're IE wasn't properly handling JavaScript. Apparently a patch for IE fixes a known JavaScript issue, but the patch requires IE SP1. Unfortunately the installer can't detect that IE 6.0 SP 1 is indeed installed and fails. Being their only system support person, I had them download Netscape and all is well.
They enjoy using Netscape now(probably would have enjoyed any other browser just as well if I had pointed them that way). The only reason they hadn't switched before is the fact that they just didn't know they had other options. They are among the majority of the population in that they have a PC, but really know very little about it.
But at least you get to see the correct information with non-IE browsers. The issue isn't really with Joe-User, but more with the IE code. Sure, the file could affect the OS, but that's a whole other issue of poor system architecture that won't change to protect early defense arguments about the integration of explorer.
Other posters have already pointed out that they've sent very obvious emails stating that an attachment is a virus and users are still dumb enough to just click on it. For those users, they get what they deserve (of course those who are IT pros will get the call to help them out...picturing my mother-in-law).
so just switching browsers really won't save you
Only if you don't read, and then it's the users fault. My big concern would be for the users who checked the little box to set a default action for a file type (they won't get the prompt).
Microsoft's market share guarantees that a disproportionate amount of viruses and worms will target their OS
Given that statement, wouldn't their market share provide them with greater income to develop better products? I can fully understand the 9x releases not being secure as they were just starting their market dominance. As they've moved to 2000/XP with the lip service of saying they are security minded, I would expect their products to be much more secure (not entirely secure as I understand no application will be totally without fault). The real problem is that we are seeing simple errors that a good code review or software tools would catch.
You must wake up to the fact that Linux is no longer a basement application. It's being looked at by many corporations thanks to the support of many people and corporations.
bud. I love microsoft so there is no need for me to try to switch to one of your geeky expiriments.
Over time, you'll go the way of the dinosaur if you can't evolve to consider all possible IT solutions. Linux is here to stay. Will it wipe out MS, maybe someday, but I see a relatively long period of mixed computing environments where the skill demand will be for people with a variety of skills. Just think about all the mainframe administrators who refused to see the future.
There are a lot of reasons that this wouldn't work, but the first that comes to my mind is this...
I have a monitoring application that checks the status of all the systems on my network. The application detects a failure of a server and sends an automated email to: my work email; my pager, my home email. Who sends the email? While the obvious answer would be to store my ID with the monitoring application, a normal person would probably be very protective of that ID and not allow it to be stored (and possibly stolen).
Another use, what about forums such as this where an automatic message is sent out when a user responds to your post (in your case, you hide behind anonymous coward, but a typical user wouldn't)? Who's ID would be used to comply with traceable ID's?
Would the next step be to impliment corporate ID's then? If so, what would stop any company, including spammers, from abusing their ID?
Well transactions at the counter would be one application, but I'm thinking that this could also lead to monitoring shoppers behaviors. Imagine that you load items A, B, C, and D. The sensors could monitor the order you purchased items, the proximity of the cart in the store (leading to analysis of what kept you at that position...did you stop and look at item E), and ultimately the assignment of your personal information at time of checkout. Analyzing the data, I should be able to figure out what items possibly caught your attention and your path through the store. If I'm marketing a particular item to someone who buys the items you have, I'll likely position them in your path, hoping to influence your next purchase.
While this may not be in the initial test, I'm sure someone has already started laying out the plans for implimenting this. It may not be the worst thing to happen (people already do the strategic placement of items...milk located in the back corner of the grocery store, usually with the path along the "snack" isle), but it should get everyone thinking about how easily people could influence our purchasing patterns.
I thought Wal-Mart's desire was to have the tags on individual items in the future, but due to cost and vendor push back, they settled on tags at the pallet level.
As for the registers, that's a separate issue. The OS driving the register may crash and I think the original poster was worried about attacks via virus's passed due to OS flaws and the systems being networked.
Having spent most of my time in the UNIX world, I'm surprised that PC's haven't taken to using the HostID or like you said, the use of dongles.
On the topic of RFID, how long till the stores start tracking the movement paterns of items through the store. Wouldn't sensors be able to group items in the cart to predict shopping patterns which analyst could then use to drive advertising, product placement, etc...?
br
Jim
Personalizing the resume only works if they have the skills to back it up. I've seen some creative resumes and when it's all "fluff", they get pitched pretty fast (or passed around for office humor). Fortunately I've only had to review the resumes at three of my positions on an occasional basis.
The point mentioned by quite a few post about networking tends to be the best way, at least by my experience. I've jumped positions every 2-3 years and it's always been to an employer who has a former co-worker who actually contacts me (and convienently around the time I'm getting bored at the current position).
As for these are people reading these things and not a machine, this depends on the size of the company. In my case, working for one of the largest defense contractors in the US, resumes that can be easily cut/pasted into a resume template work best (particularly places that impliment a web based referal system).
As for other resume options, check with the head hunters. Worst that will happen is they give your resume a good rewrite for you . Best case, they actually find you a position. I still get emailed positions from my first head hunter and that was about 11 years ago and a different state.
Jim
I can remember messing with a Sun IPX box when our companies latest and greatest was the SunSPARC 20. I guess maybe being in my 30's and recalling back to this makes me a fairly old poster here.
The Sun Ultra10 with an A1000 was my first exposure to the Sun Ultra's. We actually replaced the functionality of a Sun 100E with a couple of huge array boxes (these things were about the size of a 280R, but only held about 30GB of disk space). The Ultra's, at the time, were a great way to obtain a cheap stable platform.
Although many people "trash" talk the Sun product line (and I'll definitely complain about price), the products are generally solid and perform quite well. My group often works with mixed platform environments, and we find that even though the cost for Sun's is higher than say a Dell PowerEdge. The return is much better for the Sun.
It's not the weather/birds that I'm worried about. How about just pulling the 15 mile long ethernet cable. That would bring it down pretty easily. OK, I know...bad joke.
Polygraphs have valid uses. Just ask anyone who's going through a background investigation starting with the EPSQ. I'm sure that some people have learned to "fool" the system, but a trained operator will detect most.
Many people mentioned HP, but I didn't see a link to this HP article.
I did a check on some of the printer drivers I have here and was unable to locate the URL embedded in any of the files. The drivers I have are a bit older (Lexmark and HP printers) and don't seem to support it, at least not with the URL in it.
Imagine the fun you could have adding these marks to documents that are typically scanned.
...pictures two students taking SAT's. First student goes to the restroom, second student adds circular marks to first students SAT paper.
Really though, the ability to create anti-copy documents would be kind of interesting. I wonder is someone like Reuters or Associated Press has considered using this to control distribution of their photos. They can give out a copy with the marks, but in order to use it, they need one without the marks.
If the Linux port really drives more appeal (not that I think it would for real world situations), I'll start recommending it for the desktops at my client sites. Guess the new concern will be keeping people at work from turning it back into a GameCube and playing games at work.
Employee: #playing Zelda#
Manager: Aren't you supposed to be working on that spreadsheet for me?
Employee: The system reverted back to the original use. I thought that locating the Ocarina of Time would lead me to the document.
Anyone with curiosity will enjoy efforts such as porting the GC to Linux. Not being a hardcore developer myself, I'll probably leave my GC alone, but enjoy reading about the conversion. At a minimum, this effort might draw the attentions of multimedia system developers in the sense that they'll see what the geek community is interested in as far as multimedia entertainment systems.
I'm in favor of fines for the spammers, but not nearly as much as I'm in favor of fining those who advertise via spam. If the laws were to target those who employ the spammers more heavily, wouldn't that be a more effective way to cut down the amount of spam?
I have to agree with you that prison is for hardcore criminals. If you hit someone in the wallet enough times (fines), they will hopefully get the idea (thinking of people with speeding tickets...after a couple of these, you'll slow down for a while). If not, then consider more extreme measures. In the case of spammers, how about a restrictive order prohibiting their use of computers/networks?
Jim
Have you actually sat down at a Sun Blade? For imagery/geospatial work, the Sun Blades easily out perform a MS Win32 PC configured similarly (sorry, I've not tried any of my applications on Linux as they aren't availble on that platform yet). I realize that a single workstation will not answer all problems, but a generic statement like workstations are hardly "cutting edge" is far from accurate.
Variety in the workstation market place will ultimately lead to better products for consumers and I'm all for that. Given that, does a Sun Blade make sense for all users? The simple answer is NO. Are they appropriate for those who have "REAL" high demands? YES.
The subject of other postings about Sun being dead are also without basis. The customers I support demand Sun hardware/OS about 70% of the time, with the remaining 30% still mostly other flavors of UNIX, and a "SMALL" percentage of that as MS Win32 products. The customers just don't trust MS Win32 systems yet and are unwilling to take on the high cost of administration (for the small percentage of MS Win32 systems we deliver, we almost always have to provide a SMS like solution to help manage the systems...just another added cost/complexity to keeping a MS Win32 environment).
I've managed a variety of UNIX flavors (Solaris/SunOS, DEC Ultrix, Alpha OSF, AIX, IRIX, RedHat), Novell, and MS Win32 (9x, NT, W2k, XP). All have their pros/cons, but Solaris appears to be the platform that gets the most vendor support. I don't think it's going away anytime real soon. That may change, especially as Linux matures and gains in real deployments. As odd as it sounds, I hope that none of the major OS/hardware vendors go under (although knocking MS down a notch or two wouldn't be bad). If we go to a mono-platform, the benefits of the current environment will be lost.
I seem to recall my father doing just about everything in one room, the bath room:
- Relieving himself (Check)
- Bathing (Check)
- Reading (Check)
- TV (Check...yeah, he really has a TV)
- Radio (Check)
- Phone - Cordless (Check)
- Sleeping (Check...yes, we've found him asleep in there)
If he knew how to operate a computer, I'm sure my siblings and I would have the perfect gift for him.
I always suspected that he spent all his time away from work in that room just to get away from the 4 kids, but he still does that, even though we've all moved out.
I disagree with what Nissan has done in this case. Prior to the site's "shutdown", the guy posted a pretty good argument stating his claim to the website as well as early communications with Nissan Motor Corporation. Basically the guy's last name is Nissan and he runs several businesses under that name. IMHO, he should have been able to continue using the site.
I do enjoy Nissan Motor products (have two of their cars at this time) and probably would not have bought anything from the Nissan Computer Store. This is a case of David and Goliath, and Goliath seems to have won. The results of this ruling do not seem fair to me (given that the computer guy had the initiative to register first). I've considered registering #mylastname#.com in the past, and I'd like to think that I have rights to #mylastname#.
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I'm not sure that I'd agree completely with that. You'll always find a discriminating group of people who want to read the book before or even after seeing the movie. While a good number of children probably read very little, I know the school systems will continue to push reading for pleasure to students. My two children have standing assignments to read for at least 15 minutes a day and to document the completion of the book. We even allow our kids to read before going to sleep (thus pushing their real bedtime back to 10 - 10:30 PM some nights). Maybe my kids are odd, but I have to imagine that a lot of parents encourage their children to read, but the media focuses on the ones who aren't reading.
I have my inlaws running Netscape rather than IE for a similar situation where they're IE wasn't properly handling JavaScript. Apparently a patch for IE fixes a known JavaScript issue, but the patch requires IE SP1. Unfortunately the installer can't detect that IE 6.0 SP 1 is indeed installed and fails. Being their only system support person, I had them download Netscape and all is well.
They enjoy using Netscape now(probably would have enjoyed any other browser just as well if I had pointed them that way). The only reason they hadn't switched before is the fact that they just didn't know they had other options. They are among the majority of the population in that they have a PC, but really know very little about it.
But at least you get to see the correct information with non-IE browsers. The issue isn't really with Joe-User, but more with the IE code. Sure, the file could affect the OS, but that's a whole other issue of poor system architecture that won't change to protect early defense arguments about the integration of explorer.
Other posters have already pointed out that they've sent very obvious emails stating that an attachment is a virus and users are still dumb enough to just click on it. For those users, they get what they deserve (of course those who are IT pros will get the call to help them out...picturing my mother-in-law).
so just switching browsers really won't save you
Only if you don't read, and then it's the users fault. My big concern would be for the users who checked the little box to set a default action for a file type (they won't get the prompt).
Microsoft's market share guarantees that a disproportionate amount of viruses and worms will target their OS
Given that statement, wouldn't their market share provide them with greater income to develop better products? I can fully understand the 9x releases not being secure as they were just starting their market dominance. As they've moved to 2000/XP with the lip service of saying they are security minded, I would expect their products to be much more secure (not entirely secure as I understand no application will be totally without fault). The real problem is that we are seeing simple errors that a good code review or software tools would catch.
You must wake up to the fact that Linux is no longer a basement application. It's being looked at by many corporations thanks to the support of many people and corporations.
bud. I love microsoft so there is no need for me to try to switch to one of your geeky expiriments.
Over time, you'll go the way of the dinosaur if you can't evolve to consider all possible IT solutions. Linux is here to stay. Will it wipe out MS, maybe someday, but I see a relatively long period of mixed computing environments where the skill demand will be for people with a variety of skills. Just think about all the mainframe administrators who refused to see the future.
There are a lot of reasons that this wouldn't work, but the first that comes to my mind is this...
I have a monitoring application that checks the status of all the systems on my network. The application detects a failure of a server and sends an automated email to: my work email; my pager, my home email. Who sends the email? While the obvious answer would be to store my ID with the monitoring application, a normal person would probably be very protective of that ID and not allow it to be stored (and possibly stolen).
Another use, what about forums such as this where an automatic message is sent out when a user responds to your post (in your case, you hide behind anonymous coward, but a typical user wouldn't)? Who's ID would be used to comply with traceable ID's?
Would the next step be to impliment corporate ID's then? If so, what would stop any company, including spammers, from abusing their ID?
Jim
Well transactions at the counter would be one application, but I'm thinking that this could also lead to monitoring shoppers behaviors. Imagine that you load items A, B, C, and D. The sensors could monitor the order you purchased items, the proximity of the cart in the store (leading to analysis of what kept you at that position...did you stop and look at item E), and ultimately the assignment of your personal information at time of checkout. Analyzing the data, I should be able to figure out what items possibly caught your attention and your path through the store. If I'm marketing a particular item to someone who buys the items you have, I'll likely position them in your path, hoping to influence your next purchase.
While this may not be in the initial test, I'm sure someone has already started laying out the plans for implimenting this. It may not be the worst thing to happen (people already do the strategic placement of items...milk located in the back corner of the grocery store, usually with the path along the "snack" isle), but it should get everyone thinking about how easily people could influence our purchasing patterns.
Jim
Here's a link to backup your statement about Sun/IBM.
Sun/Wal-Mart RFID testing center
I thought Wal-Mart's desire was to have the tags on individual items in the future, but due to cost and vendor push back, they settled on tags at the pallet level.
Found this article that indicates that MS is certainly not the only player in the Wal-Mart RFID game. Sun Microsystems opens RFID Test Center to Help Suppliers Meet Requirements from Wal-Mart. According to this article, the testing is aimed at tags at the pallet, case, and item level.
As for the registers, that's a separate issue. The OS driving the register may crash and I think the original poster was worried about attacks via virus's passed due to OS flaws and the systems being networked.
Having spent most of my time in the UNIX world, I'm surprised that PC's haven't taken to using the HostID or like you said, the use of dongles.
On the topic of RFID, how long till the stores start tracking the movement paterns of items through the store. Wouldn't sensors be able to group items in the cart to predict shopping patterns which analyst could then use to drive advertising, product placement, etc...?
br Jim
Personalizing the resume only works if they have the skills to back it up. I've seen some creative resumes and when it's all "fluff", they get pitched pretty fast (or passed around for office humor). Fortunately I've only had to review the resumes at three of my positions on an occasional basis.
The point mentioned by quite a few post about networking tends to be the best way, at least by my experience. I've jumped positions every 2-3 years and it's always been to an employer who has a former co-worker who actually contacts me (and convienently around the time I'm getting bored at the current position).
As for these are people reading these things and not a machine, this depends on the size of the company. In my case, working for one of the largest defense contractors in the US, resumes that can be easily cut/pasted into a resume template work best (particularly places that impliment a web based referal system).
As for other resume options, check with the head hunters. Worst that will happen is they give your resume a good rewrite for you . Best case, they actually find you a position. I still get emailed positions from my first head hunter and that was about 11 years ago and a different state. Jim
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We didn't have nothing until we borrowed nothing from those who had nothing. Then we owed nothing.
I can remember messing with a Sun IPX box when our companies latest and greatest was the SunSPARC 20. I guess maybe being in my 30's and recalling back to this makes me a fairly old poster here.
The Sun Ultra10 with an A1000 was my first exposure to the Sun Ultra's. We actually replaced the functionality of a Sun 100E with a couple of huge array boxes (these things were about the size of a 280R, but only held about 30GB of disk space). The Ultra's, at the time, were a great way to obtain a cheap stable platform.
Although many people "trash" talk the Sun product line (and I'll definitely complain about price), the products are generally solid and perform quite well. My group often works with mixed platform environments, and we find that even though the cost for Sun's is higher than say a Dell PowerEdge. The return is much better for the Sun.
It's not the weather/birds that I'm worried about. How about just pulling the 15 mile long ethernet cable. That would bring it down pretty easily. OK, I know...bad joke.
Polygraphs have valid uses. Just ask anyone who's going through a background investigation starting with the EPSQ. I'm sure that some people have learned to "fool" the system, but a trained operator will detect most.
Many people mentioned HP, but I didn't see a link to this HP article.
I did a check on some of the printer drivers I have here and was unable to locate the URL embedded in any of the files. The drivers I have are a bit older (Lexmark and HP printers) and don't seem to support it, at least not with the URL in it.
Jim
Imagine the fun you could have adding these marks to documents that are typically scanned.
...pictures two students taking SAT's. First student goes to the restroom, second student adds circular marks to first students SAT paper.
Really though, the ability to create anti-copy documents would be kind of interesting. I wonder is someone like Reuters or Associated Press has considered using this to control distribution of their photos. They can give out a copy with the marks, but in order to use it, they need one without the marks.
Jim
If the Linux port really drives more appeal (not that I think it would for real world situations), I'll start recommending it for the desktops at my client sites. Guess the new concern will be keeping people at work from turning it back into a GameCube and playing games at work.
Employee: #playing Zelda#
Manager: Aren't you supposed to be working on that spreadsheet for me?
Employee: The system reverted back to the original use. I thought that locating the Ocarina of Time would lead me to the document.
Anyone with curiosity will enjoy efforts such as porting the GC to Linux. Not being a hardcore developer myself, I'll probably leave my GC alone, but enjoy reading about the conversion. At a minimum, this effort might draw the attentions of multimedia system developers in the sense that they'll see what the geek community is interested in as far as multimedia entertainment systems.
Jim
I'm in favor of fines for the spammers, but not nearly as much as I'm in favor of fining those who advertise via spam. If the laws were to target those who employ the spammers more heavily, wouldn't that be a more effective way to cut down the amount of spam?
I have to agree with you that prison is for hardcore criminals. If you hit someone in the wallet enough times (fines), they will hopefully get the idea (thinking of people with speeding tickets...after a couple of these, you'll slow down for a while). If not, then consider more extreme measures. In the case of spammers, how about a restrictive order prohibiting their use of computers/networks? Jim
Have you actually sat down at a Sun Blade? For imagery/geospatial work, the Sun Blades easily out perform a MS Win32 PC configured similarly (sorry, I've not tried any of my applications on Linux as they aren't availble on that platform yet). I realize that a single workstation will not answer all problems, but a generic statement like workstations are hardly "cutting edge" is far from accurate.
Variety in the workstation market place will ultimately lead to better products for consumers and I'm all for that. Given that, does a Sun Blade make sense for all users? The simple answer is NO. Are they appropriate for those who have "REAL" high demands? YES.
The subject of other postings about Sun being dead are also without basis. The customers I support demand Sun hardware/OS about 70% of the time, with the remaining 30% still mostly other flavors of UNIX, and a "SMALL" percentage of that as MS Win32 products. The customers just don't trust MS Win32 systems yet and are unwilling to take on the high cost of administration (for the small percentage of MS Win32 systems we deliver, we almost always have to provide a SMS like solution to help manage the systems...just another added cost/complexity to keeping a MS Win32 environment).
I've managed a variety of UNIX flavors (Solaris/SunOS, DEC Ultrix, Alpha OSF, AIX, IRIX, RedHat), Novell, and MS Win32 (9x, NT, W2k, XP). All have their pros/cons, but Solaris appears to be the platform that gets the most vendor support. I don't think it's going away anytime real soon. That may change, especially as Linux matures and gains in real deployments. As odd as it sounds, I hope that none of the major OS/hardware vendors go under (although knocking MS down a notch or two wouldn't be bad). If we go to a mono-platform, the benefits of the current environment will be lost.
Jim
I seem to recall my father doing just about everything in one room, the bath room:
- Relieving himself (Check)
- Bathing (Check)
- Reading (Check)
- TV (Check...yeah, he really has a TV)
- Radio (Check)
- Phone - Cordless (Check)
- Sleeping (Check...yes, we've found him asleep in there)
If he knew how to operate a computer, I'm sure my siblings and I would have the perfect gift for him.
I always suspected that he spent all his time away from work in that room just to get away from the 4 kids, but he still does that, even though we've all moved out.
Patiently waiting the price drop,
Jim
Would AAA cover this?
New pickup lines:
Hey babe, nice RJ45
Check out my "RAM"
Let's interface
It's not the backup that causes the problem, it's the restore.
I disagree with what Nissan has done in this case. Prior to the site's "shutdown", the guy posted a pretty good argument stating his claim to the website as well as early communications with Nissan Motor Corporation. Basically the guy's last name is Nissan and he runs several businesses under that name. IMHO, he should have been able to continue using the site.
I do enjoy Nissan Motor products (have two of their cars at this time) and probably would not have bought anything from the Nissan Computer Store. This is a case of David and Goliath, and Goliath seems to have won. The results of this ruling do not seem fair to me (given that the computer guy had the initiative to register first). I've considered registering #mylastname#.com in the past, and I'd like to think that I have rights to #mylastname#.
Jim