I'm at work, and have Lotus notes, Visio, Word, and You tube (streaming some off road Jeep JK trail runs that I'd like to try (no Audio)) open on my first 2 screens, on my 3rd screen I'm using Logmein to access my home machine where I'm on Safari with 6 home page tabs open (including this one), this is all while I'm listening (again) to the Hobbit in an Audiobook on my iphone (in preparation for the movie) with my personal email open and connecting from my 5 email accounts....
According to this article I must be so depresed to be on the cusp of becoming a suiside Bomber and blowing up a small building...
In the past we used to think that we were totally safe because in the past most hackers were like Dogs and didn't "shite where they sleep". but now we are among the rest of you realizing that the new generation of hackers are a truely dogs, and eat their shite after they poop it......
It's something that EA is giving out 3-day passes to for beta testing. It consists of a 10GB download and contains quests.
Actually, not 10Gb, it's 30+Gb.
For those that don't know what it is, it's the New StarWars MMO comming out on December 20th (if you preorder you get early access, and it's estimated that there may be as many as 1 Million pre orders already). It's based 3000 years before the movies, 300 years after the original SW: Knights of the Old Republic game from Bioware.
And I'm in Full beta (not NDA breaking to say your in). and all I can say to the poster is. Pick a class and play. You'll find it's a joy to play, there is no feeling of "Grinding" like in most/all other MMOs. You'll find that your leveling without even realizing it, as the Story is everything. you'll find yourself pushing yourself forward to hear more of the story, beyond the push to get levels...
I just recieved a 10 day trial for the expansion, so I'll give it a try and see. I didn't hear that they wholy changed the old content other than removing the quests that could no longer be done and modifying the ones left to make them easier.
I agree, All the other articles (from non-fanboy sources even) have said that it does not feel grindish. Of course there are going to be some quests that will be a grind, but what MMO does not have them...
I played WoW solid for the past 6+ years (since Beta), Granted I did not buy the new expansion, but they may have changed things on the last 5 levels for leveling, but there is no way your telling me that If I went in and bought a copy and leveled a Wargen from level 1 that it would be 90% grindfest till level cap. I have an 80 of every class, with precata max levels in every crafting professions, and gear well into the Icecrown levels on all of them.
Fully Voiced comment: Yes I should have limited it to MMO. No other MMO in History is fully voiced.. Fallout(series)and DR2 are solo games.
EQ2 and LotRO, yes story lines, however, they are short and scattered through your questing. WoW even has class quests. However for TORO we are not talking about a tutorial, your entire storyline is different for each class, from begining to end. Yes there are shared quests, as there are planet quests, etc, but the story you get is different that the one a different class may have. though the quest end result may be shared.
Example, I'm on a class quest and talking to an NPC, I do all the interaction, the others get nothing. but if they are partied with they can help me torwards my goal, and if they also have something to do with the same I'll be helping them even if not on the same actuall quest.
I've been watching this game develop since the announce, and I'm looking forward to it. As far as this article author's opinion, thanks, but I'll make my own opinion. As for as the grind of "Running around killing a set number of 'Flesh Raiders' in a relatively quiet village doesn't seem particularly epic, but that's the route BioWare Austin seems to be taking with the opening areas for the Jedi" I'm sorry, the 20 other people that had access to the game did not percieve the questing in the same way. and for that matter, WoW and every other MMO is nothing but a grind fest from minute one, so your point is?
Bioware (and no I'm not a "fanboy") has been doing nothing but inovate with SWTORO. There to date has been no game or MMO that has gone the route of Fully voiced. There has been no MMO to date that has fully different storylines for each of it's character classes. Yes there will like EVERY OTHER MMO be a grind on some quests, but at least in TORO there is story behind the grind if this author bothered to read, Oops I mean Listen to the quest giver rather than escapeing through the audio...
Seems like the networks need to get off their arse and change away from the "neilsen ratings" because they apparently SUCK. Clearly all the Grandmothers that are their source base watch nothning but Dancing with Idiots and Crap Scene Ingestion...
They are either a wholy owned subsidiary of Micro$oft... They want to be a wholy owned subsidiary of Micro$oft... They are owned by a a wholy owned subsidiary of Micro$oft... Or lastly they want to be owned a wholy owned subsidiary of Micro$oft...
Basically I consider the whole thing a bunch of FUD...
They are in League with the Oil Barron that is currently in the White house, and know that by selling it here the oil companies will probably hook up with the Government and put out Mob hits on them like they did with Kennedy...
Total windows sales has always been a very gray area. Micro$oft has always included ALL their OSs as a single unit of "Windows". So the 90%+ of the "Windows" market share out there includes the Server population (And likely the hand held os also).
If you really look at the numbers and look at the time that a particular purchase remains active it's clear that both Mac and Linux have had their market share vastly underrated. Most Windows PCs are no longer "usable" after about 2 years (a term based on the applications (in most cases Games) are working within functionality specifications). Matching that with Macs (and PCs using Linux) that typically stay "usable" for 4 years or more (I have a 13 year old mac 6100 working as a file server) and at the very least the Active computers out there have a much more equal footing between Mac Linux and Micro$oft...
And this is just the Hardware, when we throw in the OS comparison, Mac and Linux get faster with each new version of the OS on the same hardware, Windows gets slower and requires you to change out your hardware much much more often.
Fighters now have "tanking" abilities that "force" the monster to attack them...What the hell is that about? Didn't everyone and their mother used to role play that? Instead of being a simple framework, D&D is more like a complete game.
Why should the monster do that? It should attack whoever it wants to attack. And the smarter it is the more intelligent its selection and tactics should be.
The whole MMO inspired 'all the monsters wail on the tank, while the rest of the group focuses on one target at a time and burns it down' is the most absurd thing going. I hear your pain, welcome the the World of Warcraft edition of D&D...
The Issue is not that they are $60, the issue is that WotC is spitting the Editions out way too fast. From 1st ed to 2nd ed was like 12 years, 2nd to 3rd was 11 years, (the time Wizards of the Coast Bought the franchise). they put out the 3.5 edition 3 years after the 3rd edition and now the 4th edition 4 years after.
More importantly this edition they are breaking up all the book into sub books. the players guide has one third of the races that the original had, and there will be 2 more players handbook supplements coming with the other races. So if you want to play a Gnome Illusionist you will have to wait till next year when the 3rd players hand book comes out (coming to a total of $60 just for the Players handbooks). It's my understanding that they are doing the same thing for the DMG and of course the monster Manual. Add in all the other supplements they will have to "re-write" to make it work in the new system and you can clearly see that WotC is only trying to change D&D so that they can put out new books to make money.
For myself and my friends, we converted over to Castles and Crusades (close to first edition with a lot of second edition mixed in). And we are running a campaign in Gary Gygax's Castle Zagyg (We are play testing his and Jeff Telanian's un- published content).
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LOL That's IT?
I'm at work, and have Lotus notes, Visio, Word, and You tube (streaming some off road Jeep JK trail runs that I'd like to try (no Audio)) open on my first 2 screens, on my 3rd screen I'm using Logmein to access my home machine where I'm on Safari with 6 home page tabs open (including this one), this is all while I'm listening (again) to the Hobbit in an Audiobook on my iphone (in preparation for the movie) with my personal email open and connecting from my 5 email accounts....
According to this article I must be so depresed to be on the cusp of becoming a suiside Bomber and blowing up a small building...
That Malcolm Gladwell is an idiot...
In the past we used to think that we were totally safe because in the past most hackers were like Dogs and didn't "shite where they sleep". but now we are among the rest of you realizing that the new generation of hackers are a truely dogs, and eat their shite after they poop it......
<quote><p>t's fucking Bioware dude, the game will be awesome,</p></quote>
<p>BioWare has never made an MMO.</p></quote>
Neither did Blizzard, before WoW...
It's something that EA is giving out 3-day passes to for beta testing. It consists of a 10GB download and contains quests.
Actually, not 10Gb, it's 30+Gb.
For those that don't know what it is, it's the New StarWars MMO comming out on December 20th (if you preorder you get early access, and it's estimated that there may be as many as 1 Million pre orders already). It's based 3000 years before the movies, 300 years after the original SW: Knights of the Old Republic game from Bioware.
And I'm in Full beta (not NDA breaking to say your in). and all I can say to the poster is. Pick a class and play. You'll find it's a joy to play, there is no feeling of "Grinding" like in most/all other MMOs. You'll find that your leveling without even realizing it, as the Story is everything. you'll find yourself pushing yourself forward to hear more of the story, beyond the push to get levels...
Oops leave it to me to take 20 minutes break and com back to finish my post, only to find that I've pulled a Micro$loth.
Too Late....
Leave it to Micro$loth to skimp on R&D and just put on the hitch and follow Apple and it's App Store(s) again...
Again a Coward. when you man up I'll respond to more than LOLZZZ!!! Your Sad...
I just recieved a 10 day trial for the expansion, so I'll give it a try and see. I didn't hear that they wholy changed the old content other than removing the quests that could no longer be done and modifying the ones left to make them easier.
Addressed Above. your talking about non MMO games.
I agree, All the other articles (from non-fanboy sources even) have said that it does not feel grindish. Of course there are going to be some quests that will be a grind, but what MMO does not have them...
And you sould like a troll that has said nothing in your post but to point out that your a troll...
At least if your going to comment and personally attack someone you know nothing about, have the balls to not post as an anonymous coward...
I played WoW solid for the past 6+ years (since Beta), Granted I did not buy the new expansion, but they may have changed things on the last 5 levels for leveling, but there is no way your telling me that If I went in and bought a copy and leveled a Wargen from level 1 that it would be 90% grindfest till level cap. I have an 80 of every class, with precata max levels in every crafting professions, and gear well into the Icecrown levels on all of them.
Fully Voiced comment: Yes I should have limited it to MMO. No other MMO in History is fully voiced.. Fallout(series)and DR2 are solo games.
EQ2 and LotRO, yes story lines, however, they are short and scattered through your questing. WoW even has class quests. However for TORO we are not talking about a tutorial, your entire storyline is different for each class, from begining to end. Yes there are shared quests, as there are planet quests, etc, but the story you get is different that the one a different class may have. though the quest end result may be shared.
Example, I'm on a class quest and talking to an NPC, I do all the interaction, the others get nothing. but if they are partied with they can help me torwards my goal, and if they also have something to do with the same I'll be helping them even if not on the same actuall quest.
I've been watching this game develop since the announce, and I'm looking forward to it. As far as this article author's opinion, thanks, but I'll make my own opinion. As for as the grind of "Running around killing a set number of 'Flesh Raiders' in a relatively quiet village doesn't seem particularly epic, but that's the route BioWare Austin seems to be taking with the opening areas for the Jedi" I'm sorry, the 20 other people that had access to the game did not percieve the questing in the same way. and for that matter, WoW and every other MMO is nothing but a grind fest from minute one, so your point is?
Bioware (and no I'm not a "fanboy") has been doing nothing but inovate with SWTORO. There to date has been no game or MMO that has gone the route of Fully voiced. There has been no MMO to date that has fully different storylines for each of it's character classes. Yes there will like EVERY OTHER MMO be a grind on some quests, but at least in TORO there is story behind the grind if this author bothered to read, Oops I mean Listen to the quest giver rather than escapeing through the audio...
WFT, I might as well just cancel TV :(
Seems like the networks need to get off their arse and change away from the "neilsen ratings" because they apparently SUCK. Clearly all the Grandmothers that are their source base watch nothning but Dancing with Idiots and Crap Scene Ingestion...
If they are allowed to patent that, I want to patent Breathing. I'll make Millions in Stupid lawsuits...
They are either a wholy owned subsidiary of Micro$oft...
They want to be a wholy owned subsidiary of Micro$oft...
They are owned by a a wholy owned subsidiary of Micro$oft...
Or lastly they want to be owned a wholy owned subsidiary of Micro$oft...
Basically I consider the whole thing a bunch of FUD...
The Diesel issue is not really where you can get it, but for how much. Currently here in Boston regular is $3.35 per gallon and diesel is $4.60.
They are in League with the Oil Barron that is currently in the White house, and know that by selling it here the oil companies will probably hook up with the Government and put out Mob hits on them like they did with Kennedy...
ROFLMAO
Total windows sales has always been a very gray area. Micro$oft has always included ALL their OSs as a single unit of "Windows". So the 90%+ of the "Windows" market share out there includes the Server population (And likely the hand held os also).
If you really look at the numbers and look at the time that a particular purchase remains active it's clear that both Mac and Linux have had their market share vastly underrated. Most Windows PCs are no longer "usable" after about 2 years (a term based on the applications (in most cases Games) are working within functionality specifications). Matching that with Macs (and PCs using Linux) that typically stay "usable" for 4 years or more (I have a 13 year old mac 6100 working as a file server) and at the very least the Active computers out there have a much more equal footing between Mac Linux and Micro$oft...
And this is just the Hardware, when we throw in the OS comparison, Mac and Linux get faster with each new version of the OS on the same hardware, Windows gets slower and requires you to change out your hardware much much more often.
Why should the monster do that? It should attack whoever it wants to attack. And the smarter it is the more intelligent its selection and tactics should be.
The whole MMO inspired 'all the monsters wail on the tank, while the rest of the group focuses on one target at a time and burns it down' is the most absurd thing going. I hear your pain, welcome the the World of Warcraft edition of D&D...
1st level mages casting every round of combat...
Welcome to the World of Warcraft edition of D&D
The Issue is not that they are $60, the issue is that WotC is spitting the Editions out way too fast. From 1st ed to 2nd ed was like 12 years, 2nd to 3rd was 11 years, (the time Wizards of the Coast Bought the franchise). they put out the 3.5 edition 3 years after the 3rd edition and now the 4th edition 4 years after. More importantly this edition they are breaking up all the book into sub books. the players guide has one third of the races that the original had, and there will be 2 more players handbook supplements coming with the other races. So if you want to play a Gnome Illusionist you will have to wait till next year when the 3rd players hand book comes out (coming to a total of $60 just for the Players handbooks). It's my understanding that they are doing the same thing for the DMG and of course the monster Manual. Add in all the other supplements they will have to "re-write" to make it work in the new system and you can clearly see that WotC is only trying to change D&D so that they can put out new books to make money. For myself and my friends, we converted over to Castles and Crusades (close to first edition with a lot of second edition mixed in). And we are running a campaign in Gary Gygax's Castle Zagyg (We are play testing his and Jeff Telanian's un- published content).