Can't I just read the whole goddamn article? Put ads in both columns on either side all the way down, I don't care. That would be better then reading what amounts to four paragraphs with two screenshots and an ad to justify creating another page.
Do you really thing we all have ADD? I'm not going to click through 10 pages when it could be one page. Even magazines and newspaper articles give you something to bite on before they say continues on Page ***. Christ, I know you web people want to make money off of ads, but please knock it off with this crap.
RedHat - oops, they're a pay company now Slackware Gentoo Mandrake Unbuntu and all Unbuntu like forks KDE Gnome KDE and Gnome forks Gentoo And don't forget *BSD
Eat me, Microsoft is not Bill Gates anymore. You all lost that whipping boy years ago. They only reason you're all pissed is that you had the chance to take huge market shares in 2000-2002. But you know what happened, the same thing that always happens with open source. You all spent 5 years bitching about the right way to do things and NOTHING GOT DONE. KDE is still KDE of five years ago, as is Gnome. Gentoo died, Loki gave up, RedHat got smart, Linus silently exited to stage left as did that silly company he went to work for, Cedega keeps promising but in the end keeps sucking and is hanging on by its fingernails, projects, distributions and goals keep forking, and you know what....
I got older, I got tired of trying to figure out what in the hell I was supposed to install to get the job done. That guy above that was giving Sharepoint crap by saying "Apache+Sendmail+Mailman+I don't freaking care." Maybe in your world you have time to figure this all out. I don't. Unfortunately, a lot of us don't live in the world of academia or research groups. We work in jobs where bosses say get this done by this date. Its not an arbitrary date, its real.
1995-2000 was an incredible time for enterprise level open source, then we started to get the corporate, "We promise, promise, promise." We promise OpenOffice will be an easy transition (hahaha), we promise that your Grandmother will have no problem switching (hahaha), we promise your employees won't complain about NEW stuff."
You know what, MS SQL Server works, Windows 2003 Server works, Sharepoint works, Exchange works, Symantec Corporate Virus Scanner works, the Windows based program that controls my buildings security system works (8 years straight without a problem), Windows XP (eat me bashers) works. I have an employee overnight me an XP based laptop that needs to be rebuilt...I get it at 10:30am and am done and sending it back out the door at 3:00pm.
To quote myself, most of open sources problem was with Bill Gates, not Microsoft.
Its Duke, its rich kids, its rich kids who buy toys. The iPhone and its wireless capability was announced a long time ago.
Maybe, just maybe you would thought a little bit ahead and realized that a whole bunch of students and faculty would be coming back to campus with one? Then you could have, I don't know, prepared for it? You're Duke. You have the head of the Comp. Sci. department (who, I'm sure has a contact at Apple) get you non-competitive specs on the wireless capabilities.
You prepare for said capabilities or ban the phone from campus.
Expect the best but always plan for the worst. But then I forgot, you college admins have your little fiefdoms that nobody is allowed to intrude on.
I am IT manager, I am so going to base what OS I choose on an article that without the side ads would have equaled a total of a quarter of a page in a real magazine! Wait, I meant a quarter of an eighth of a column. So much for actual content today.
"Slashdot, we made our money so who really gives a shit what ends up on the front page."
Internet Blogs/Reviews/Tech sites are like the sports channels and radio stations of the '90's. Whoever has the largest mouth, wins.
How about you get them to post here to back you up?
I've been hearing this since I started using Linux back when I fell in love with Slackware 0.92. That version number may not be right, but it was around 1993. Linux is niche and it will always be niche until it has better gaming support and normal everyday office support. I love Linux and Unix, don't get me wrong. But....
I keep hearing about these companies that are switching their desktop users over to Linux. You never hear the details though. There is a big difference between getting your desktop users to run a few Linux apps and switching every part of your IT to it. Its just not there.
I'm IT for insurance. There is absolutely NOTHING available other than Windows based or mainframe based that I can run reliably. Nothing, and I don't want to hear about "Its Web 2.0 dude, you can just build your own using Linux tools." because I don't want to build my own. I don't have time for that and I shouldn't have to.
I'm not crapping on Linux, for overall NETWORK administration and tools its great, but the system I use for insurance has been around for close to two decades. Its stable, trusted, and supported.
I think that's where a lot of Linux zealots miss the boat. Yes, I'd love something in Linux, if its stable, trusted, and supported. Not something that is version 0.098h with a vBulletin forum that has people bitching about what font to use and I'm forking this code to my version and you suck for not agreeing with me. Give me this and I'd gladly switch. Until then I'll keep doing my one upgrade a year SUPPORTED by a team of individuals who created my software and were trained by Microsoft engineers on SQL/Windows Server and know how to make things work.
Trusted, good support is what is killing Linux on the desktop. That and D00DERZ i CANT p1ay "enter game name here".
RedHat tried the support angle, and found it was to hard to do with all the fragmenting in apps going on, dropped their free version to Fedora and kept a strictly controlled RedHat version. Loki tried it with games, got tired of the bitching and money flying out the window and folded up.
That's great! Now he can keep an eye on everybody. I see him as the boss in V for Vendetta, telling his computer how much he loves her.
20 years from now people will be going "Chavez who?" Is that the guy that thought he could be Hitler and Stalin rolled into one. Good thing the people of Venezuela smacked him down.
Why is this modded troll. We bought 12 of the 750mb drives for our sales agents that work out of their homes for backups. Not a single one lasted more than 8 months. It was actually easier and cheaper to just get them all broadband and have them email their backups to our file server.
Oh for the love of God, don't let Richard Hoagland get a hold of these. Have anybody seen some of the crazy stuff he's come up with on the new Mar's photos.
Maybe you've just had a bad experience with them once. We have two monster Dell servers and the only problem we ever had was a tape drive go out. The tech was here in 1.5 hours to swap it out. I love our Dell servers.
I agree. We have taken a bath on a Canon CLC. Years ago (7 I think) an ex-boss decided he wanted to do in-house publishing for clients. This was one of those bosses who doesn't care what things cost. He got us in a 5 year lease with a local vendor on a CLC550. Lease came up, he upgraded us to a 900 on an addtional 5 year lease. We are paying $695.27 (I just checked) a month for this thing and a HP workstation that runs the ripper. This does not include a maintenance contract. The vendor convinced my ex-boss we wouldn't need one. It costs us $150 an hour for a technician to come out.
I have no idea how much the machine costs, but in seven years we have put out roughly $60,000 on this printer (the clc 550 was even more). They've had to force employees to print to it now. Save the money. Go to Kinkos.
What kind of video card do you have? I had mouse problems too. Geforce 2 with a USB mouse. They did not like each other. Once I put a usb to ps/2 adapter it worked fine.
Will I be required to wear socks with my sandals like the guy who took the pictures? When I think of what a geek is, I will, from now on, think of that picture.
Fucking troll. The United States spends more on social programs then it does on military. Go look it up. Do some research before you open your mouth and shove your foot in it.
At least the content was a lot better. More community based, more personal. I had a Tandy Color Computer with a 300 baud push button modem. When you heard the tones you had to push this button and hang up the phone real quick. I think I can actually type faster than the time it took text to scroll. I've been seriously considering setting one up again here in st. louis, but just haven't gotten around to it.
When are you people going to realize that what you think is not what the majority of the average user thinks. For them this is good. If you don't like it, don't use it. At least they're trying to do something to fix windows. All everyone around here does is bitch about shit but nobody lifts a finger to do anything about it. I'm sorry to 0.5% of Slashdotters that to lift a finger.
Will somebody explain to me why Netscape 6 can render ESPN but mozilla can't do it correctly. If I scroll down to fast when I'm on slashdot the graphics get all screwy. It still doesn't render CNN correctly either.
I agree. I got so tired of the tediousnous of FF7 that I quit after about 4 hours and have never played it or another FF again. Go up the stairs go talk to somebody, go down the stairs, fight somebody, go back up the stairs, talk to somebody. On and on and on.
Can't I just read the whole goddamn article? Put ads in both columns on either side all the way down, I don't care. That would be better then reading what amounts to four paragraphs with two screenshots and an ad to justify creating another page.
Do you really thing we all have ADD? I'm not going to click through 10 pages when it could be one page. Even magazines and newspaper articles give you something to bite on before they say continues on Page ***. Christ, I know you web people want to make money off of ads, but please knock it off with this crap.
Hahahaha, ha!
RedHat - oops, they're a pay company now
Slackware
Gentoo
Mandrake
Unbuntu and all Unbuntu like forks
KDE
Gnome
KDE and Gnome forks
Gentoo
And don't forget *BSD
Eat me, Microsoft is not Bill Gates anymore. You all lost that whipping boy years ago. They only reason you're all pissed is that you had the chance to take huge market shares in 2000-2002. But you know what happened, the same thing that always happens with open source. You all spent 5 years bitching about the right way to do things and NOTHING GOT DONE. KDE is still KDE of five years ago, as is Gnome. Gentoo died, Loki gave up, RedHat got smart, Linus silently exited to stage left as did that silly company he went to work for, Cedega keeps promising but in the end keeps sucking and is hanging on by its fingernails, projects, distributions and goals keep forking, and you know what....
I got older, I got tired of trying to figure out what in the hell I was supposed to install to get the job done. That guy above that was giving Sharepoint crap by saying "Apache+Sendmail+Mailman+I don't freaking care." Maybe in your world you have time to figure this all out. I don't. Unfortunately, a lot of us don't live in the world of academia or research groups. We work in jobs where bosses say get this done by this date. Its not an arbitrary date, its real.
1995-2000 was an incredible time for enterprise level open source, then we started to get the corporate, "We promise, promise, promise." We promise OpenOffice will be an easy transition (hahaha), we promise that your Grandmother will have no problem switching (hahaha), we promise your employees won't complain about NEW stuff."
You know what, MS SQL Server works, Windows 2003 Server works, Sharepoint works, Exchange works, Symantec Corporate Virus Scanner works, the Windows based program that controls my buildings security system works (8 years straight without a problem), Windows XP (eat me bashers) works. I have an employee overnight me an XP based laptop that needs to be rebuilt...I get it at 10:30am and am done and sending it back out the door at 3:00pm.
To quote myself, most of open sources problem was with Bill Gates, not Microsoft.
You want Open Source to succeed, do it better.
Its Duke, its rich kids, its rich kids who buy toys. The iPhone and its wireless capability was announced a long time ago.
Maybe, just maybe you would thought a little bit ahead and realized that a whole bunch of students and faculty would be coming back to campus with one? Then you could have, I don't know, prepared for it? You're Duke. You have the head of the Comp. Sci. department (who, I'm sure has a contact at Apple) get you non-competitive specs on the wireless capabilities.
You prepare for said capabilities or ban the phone from campus.
Expect the best but always plan for the worst. But then I forgot, you college admins have your little fiefdoms that nobody is allowed to intrude on.
Good Luck!
I am IT manager, I am so going to base what OS I choose on an article that without the side ads would have equaled a total of a quarter of a page in a real magazine! Wait, I meant a quarter of an eighth of a column. So much for actual content today.
"Slashdot, we made our money so who really gives a shit what ends up on the front page."
Internet Blogs/Reviews/Tech sites are like the sports channels and radio stations of the '90's. Whoever has the largest mouth, wins.
How about you get them to post here to back you up?
I've been hearing this since I started using Linux back when I fell in love with Slackware 0.92. That version number may not be right, but it was around 1993. Linux is niche and it will always be niche until it has better gaming support and normal everyday office support. I love Linux and Unix, don't get me wrong. But....
I keep hearing about these companies that are switching their desktop users over to Linux. You never hear the details though. There is a big difference between getting your desktop users to run a few Linux apps and switching every part of your IT to it. Its just not there.
I'm IT for insurance. There is absolutely NOTHING available other than Windows based or mainframe based that I can run reliably. Nothing, and I don't want to hear about "Its Web 2.0 dude, you can just build your own using Linux tools." because I don't want to build my own. I don't have time for that and I shouldn't have to.
I'm not crapping on Linux, for overall NETWORK administration and tools its great, but the system I use for insurance has been around for close to two decades. Its stable, trusted, and supported.
I think that's where a lot of Linux zealots miss the boat. Yes, I'd love something in Linux, if its stable, trusted, and supported. Not something that is version 0.098h with a vBulletin forum that has people bitching about what font to use and I'm forking this code to my version and you suck for not agreeing with me. Give me this and I'd gladly switch. Until then I'll keep doing my one upgrade a year SUPPORTED by a team of individuals who created my software and were trained by Microsoft engineers on SQL/Windows Server and know how to make things work.
Trusted, good support is what is killing Linux on the desktop. That and D00DERZ i CANT p1ay "enter game name here".
RedHat tried the support angle, and found it was to hard to do with all the fragmenting in apps going on, dropped their free version to Fedora and kept a strictly controlled RedHat version. Loki tried it with games, got tired of the bitching and money flying out the window and folded up.
That's great! Now he can keep an eye on everybody. I see him as the boss in V for Vendetta, telling his computer how much he loves her.
20 years from now people will be going "Chavez who?" Is that the guy that thought he could be Hitler and Stalin rolled into one. Good thing the people of Venezuela smacked him down.
I didn't get mine, and I'm a paying customer. Was it just there or did she have to contact Yahoo?
Why is this modded troll. We bought 12 of the 750mb drives for our sales agents that work out of their homes for backups. Not a single one lasted more than 8 months. It was actually easier and cheaper to just get them all broadband and have them email their backups to our file server.
Oh for the love of God, don't let Richard Hoagland get a hold of these. Have anybody seen some of the crazy stuff he's come up with on the new Mar's photos.
Maybe you've just had a bad experience with them once. We have two monster Dell servers and the only problem we ever had was a tape drive go out. The tech was here in 1.5 hours to swap it out. I love our Dell servers.
Jon Katz is on Fresh Air on NPR right now.
Dude, just go to Jiffy Lube. They'll do all that for $25. And they usually have good, up-to-date magazines.
I agree. We have taken a bath on a Canon CLC. Years ago (7 I think) an ex-boss decided he wanted to do in-house publishing for clients. This was one of those bosses who doesn't care what things cost. He got us in a 5 year lease with a local vendor on a CLC550. Lease came up, he upgraded us to a 900 on an addtional 5 year lease. We are paying $695.27 (I just checked) a month for this thing and a HP workstation that runs the ripper. This does not include a maintenance contract. The vendor convinced my ex-boss we wouldn't need one. It costs us $150 an hour for a technician to come out.
I have no idea how much the machine costs, but in seven years we have put out roughly $60,000 on this printer (the clc 550 was even more). They've had to force employees to print to it now. Save the money. Go to Kinkos.
What kind of video card do you have? I had mouse problems too. Geforce 2 with a USB mouse. They did not like each other. Once I put a usb to ps/2 adapter it worked fine.
Will I be required to wear socks with my sandals like the guy who took the pictures? When I think of what a geek is, I will, from now on, think of that picture.
I mean this in the nicest possible way of course.
Michael was probably like 4 during the Reagan administration.
Fucking troll. The United States spends more on social programs then it does on military. Go look it up. Do some research before you open your mouth and shove your foot in it.
That was friggin' great. That guy's machine just shattered.
You have an article that has nothing to do with Windows/Linux and what do we get.
"It's great to see that this interactive project works; at least I don't have to boot into Windows to use Encarta anymore!"
The maturity on this website is incredible. By the way, what ever happened to Jon Katz?
At least the content was a lot better. More community based, more personal. I had a Tandy Color Computer with a 300 baud push button modem. When you heard the tones you had to push this button and hang up the phone real quick. I think I can actually type faster than the time it took text to scroll. I've been seriously considering setting one up again here in st. louis, but just haven't gotten around to it.
It is Capricorn One not red one. Maybe you're think of The Big Red One, the WW2 movie.
When are you people going to realize that what you think is not what the majority of the average user thinks. For them this is good. If you don't like it, don't use it. At least they're trying to do something to fix windows. All everyone around here does is bitch about shit but nobody lifts a finger to do anything about it. I'm sorry to 0.5% of Slashdotters that to lift a finger.
Will somebody explain to me why Netscape 6 can render ESPN but mozilla can't do it correctly. If I scroll down to fast when I'm on slashdot the graphics get all screwy. It still doesn't render CNN correctly either.
I agree. I got so tired of the tediousnous of FF7 that I quit after about 4 hours and have never played it or another FF again. Go up the stairs go talk to somebody, go down the stairs, fight somebody, go back up the stairs, talk to somebody. On and on and on.
I've still got the source code for softporn printed out on my bookshelf. Apple basic. Christ, that was a long time ago.