My first computer was TI94/A that came with 2KB of RAM which I expanded to 4KB through a giant brick that plugged into the back of it. Kaypro...also, my balls are bigger than yours.
Wouldn't it be easier to just setup quotas in Active Directory?
We're starting to move to VMware's Virtual Desktops which makes a lot of these obsolete
We have people spread all over the country working out of their homes where I spend hours each month cleaning up the latest Farmbook Toolbar or whatever fake virus scanner they've installed or etc, etc etc because they have to have Admin access. VD's take this away from them and make my life easier so go VD's!"
The new version of X-Plane that the ONE person has been developing looks like its going to take Flight Sims to a whole new level. I love MS Flight Simulator and am hoping Microsoft Flight will be as good as advertised but there is nothing, NOTHING that comes close to X-Plane and its community.
I think Slashdot should change its name to "We have no real knowledge of anything but Linux and patent wrongness and Microsoft is evil and maybe/maybe not Google is and and Apple was evil but we buy their stuff anyhow and our butts don't stink because we're better than everyone else and OMG some website said there's oil in the gulf and its BP's fault and we haveto believe everything we read because it causes scare tactics that allow our Liberal Overlords to stay in power and pay us for living in our parents basement...and the tinfoil we wear on our heads and pay for our ridiculous tenures where we stare down our noses at anyone who suggests that maybe just maybe there is something better than what our 60 year old Comp Sci teacher who hasn't left the campus grounds in 30 years thinks!"
No wonder Hemos and CmdrTaco left.
Slashdot....another great idea taken over by the liberal types...and they destroyed it.
I have a MythTV setup in my basement (I'm still wondering when I'm going actually sit down and watch 50+ hours of A-Team and Greatest American Hero) and I totally agree with you.
Get one of these, they have one for less than $50 bucks.
Use the money you saved on buying a new Windows computer and send it to the Mono project.
And to your "undermine it from within" comment, what the hell have you liberals been doing for the past 40 years? Undermine it from within, seriously you are a liar and stupid and that makes for a punch you in the face combination. Name one, one Liberal that did one significant thing that made America better! SS and Medicare don't count because jackass I'd have donated to a private fund anyhow and it would be run a hell of a lot better than what your liberal asses came up with. Go watch Brazil then come back here and tell me that's what you really want.
I've been a supporter since Slackware 0.98 and I agree. The whole point of Linux was choice. You could use whatever distro met your needs. Why is Ubuntu the be all end all distro?
"Because we have to beat Microsoft on the Desktop, duh!!!!"
I don't use Linux to be Microsoft at anything. I use the BEST tool for the JOB at hand. I don't look at Linux as a religion or a movement. Its a tool, just like Windows, just like OSX and all the others. If Linux is free why do the hard core zealots push it so hard to make money
I prefer Craftsmen for my hand tools, Dyson for my vacuum, Hoover for my carpet cleaner, Cub Cadet for my grass cutting, Pennington for my seed/fertilizer needs, Dawn soap packets for my dishwasher and Aveeno & Fructus for my body. I don't see anyone screaming Jihad on their forums.
You want to know why! Because they are marketed and reliable brands that people know and use. Microsoft, Apple, Sony, etc. guess what they have in common? Years and years of quality products with sales that allow them to market themselves. If Shuttleworth's pockets are so deep then why doesn't the average person know anything about Ubuntu?
If you bought a house without reading all the documents put in front of you then you're a fool.
I bought a house and at closing I had the realtor and finance guy sit and explain things to me very carefully because if they don't and I back out neither of them gets a commission.
It took about and hour and a half most of which was spent with me signing my name 12 different ways to decrease the possibility of fraud.
Slashdot, the only place where you get awarded for having no facts, no true wisdom and being "smarter" than everyone else.
Your insurance company doesn't sell flood insurance. The federal government sells flood insurance. Its called the NFIP - National Flood Insurance Program. They close it down and stop selling policies when they don't have enough funds to cover losses.
There are re-insurers that back it up.
And there is regulation, its called ISO and its not a government agency and a good example of how a non-government run standards organization can function.
It wasn't Sun either, why don't you just admit that the Open Source Community's attitude is what keeps "viable communities" for "insert FOSS project" from succeeding.
I've said this before but since the majority of the posters on Linux articles have either
1. Never worked in a large business 2. Worked in a large business but don't have any interest outside of the IT department 3. Are 13 years old
SOFTWARE IS CHEAP!!!!!!!!!!
Our Microsoft site licenses for Windows/Office/SQL plus (crappy) Symantec Endpoint Protection, (crappy) laptop encryption software, Adobe Acrobat Standard/Pro + Creative Suite, etc cost less annually than what we pay for:
Coffee MFP Maintenance Contracts Property Taxes "Fun Committee" "Safety Committee" Disposables (cups, plates, paper towels, soap) Should I continue?
Take a basic Business Finance 101 and find out just how little IT costs a company overall compared to everything else.
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. How are single digit commission rates going to entice your salespeople to sell?
We give for 40% and have gone as high as 80% for our top salespeople. We've been in business 25 years.
Seriously, what do they teach in college?
Microsoft (and the other companies bidding) didn't want Skype for their technology just like Fox didn't buy MySpace for their technology and the Huffington Post wasn't bought for their *technology*. Microsoft bought (and why Fox bought MySpace and etc etc etc) for the user base and the future revenue involved with said user base.
Seriously, you all need to get out of the server room, class room, mom's basement and pick up a Wall Street Journal or use rational thinking. Microsoft has shareholders as does Apple and Fox and Boeing and soon so will Facebook! These shareholders expect dividends for the money they invest. You know what happens when a company sits on its hands and does nothing and just fights among itself.....Linux happens!
I believe its more of a "Who Cares?" issue than anything else.
For a piece of software that has been around for 11.5 years and who's own website shows a 3% decrease in home usage in January 2010 (I guess given the fork turmoil ((that makes business run as fast as they can in the other direction)) they don't feel necessary to update their usage statistics) and the ">21 % in Poland,Czech Rep,Germany" that also hasn't been updated since January of 2010 PLUS there is a thing that isn't from some Slashdot clone or one of ComputerWorld or ZDNet's fanboy's or some random blogger with a sensationalist headline and no facts to back it up when it comes to LibreOffice.
LibreOffice's Market? It Sucks. Paper airplane designs? Icons to use? I mean 10th anniversary? Maybe for OpenOffice, not for LibreOffice.
As I've said before they combined total of all of our Microsoft site licenses and CAL's spread out over the life time of the software plus the Gold/G.I. Joe level of support I get from the vendor I purchase them from doesn't come close to equaling what we spend in one year on our lease+toilet paper+cups+coffee+employee reimbursements for travel expenses+continuing education that those employees went on to better themselves that we pay for+the special tape I buy to make sure the rugs at the entrance doors don't bunch up and someone trips+plates, bowls, plastic forks/spoons/knives+the safety committee budget,the fun committee budget,the alarm company monitoring charges plus the fee's we pay when someone forgets their code and sets the alarm off and police show up+overtime+a ton of things that a lot of you have no clue about! How is Linux or OpenOffice going to help me with any of that? Who am I going to call when someone has a question I can't answer? "Hello Document Foundation, my user.....".
I pay $600 for a name brand PC with Windows 7 Pro, Office 2010, and 3 years of 2/4 hour on-site service (2 for hardware, 4 for software) and before I ever even order them they send me one which I setup with our image then send back which they then load on all the other PC's, test them, and ship them over-night to me.
Oh yeah, I don't think any of that is going to FORK anytime soon.
So using your logic Chevy, Dodge, Mercury, Plymouth, Pontiac (Fiero owners REPRESENT!), Edsel, etc. never innovated and rode the coattails of Ford.
And Yahoo and Google DIDN'T ride the coattails of AltaVista
And JC Penny, Dillards and Macy's DIDN'T ride the coattails of Sears
And Apple DIDN'T ride the coattails of Xerox
And Linux DIDN'T ride the coattails of AT&T and Minix
And the web DIDN'T come from HyperCard which DIDN'T come from Gopher
And no offense, Apple built some of the crappiest crap ever...Newton, IIgs, Mac +.
As did IBM...PC jr anyone?
To say that Apple went it alone is a pile of crap. Who lent them the money to get their butt back in gear after Scully was gone and Job's came back? Who gave them the killer apps they needed to survive and of those two companies which one did Apple stab in the back when their iGadgets became popular? And who did Apple turn to when they realized that their stupid RISC PowerPC experiment was a waste of millions of dollars.....the same companies that everyone else uses. When was the last time you saw an Apple printer? What do you think Apple (like Microsoft, IBM, Oracle, Ford, General Foods, etc) does with all that capital they have? Sure they invest in R&D but they also pay people to go find things they want that other people have already created and they BUY them!
And IBM already had a market, MS-DOS that would run on different hardware configurations (unlike...hmm...APPLE) allowed the growth of the computer industry. They bought the OS fair and square and negotiated a stellar contract with IBM from a business perspective. And what happened, Tandy, Micro"fill in the blank", heck even Epson was making computer because they were cheap. For someone who has such a low UID you are either extremely biased or stupid. Do you not remember going to Walgreens or CVS in the 80's and picking up a Computer Shopper that topped out at a whopping 500+ pages and drooling at all the choices you had? In the meantime whenever someone tried to put out an Apple clone Job's sued the pants off of them.
Slashdot is the MSNBC of the IT World and is only surpassed by ComputerWorld when it comes to real and perceived reality.
That sounds like something that a "never left academia" professor spouted in class and you bought into it because he has big beard and programmed by moving wires from terminal to terminal, in the snow, uphill both ways.
If you want to eat and buy non-DRM media and toilet paper and toothpaste then you program what you get paid for. If you want to "not touch closed-source libraries" and not use "undocumented file formats (p.s. you're retarded) such as DOCX and XLSX and PDF and TXT (you're retarded)" and not eat and have to use your hand to wipe your butt, your nose and scrub your teeth, by all means continue Oh Free Software Commando.
Me I like having options and choices and toothpaste and gasoline for my world killing Explorer that I have because I use it as it was designed (F150 with an enclosed bed) and wiping my butt with mothertrucking QUINTIPLET PLY TOILET PAPER and brushing my teeth with an incredibile SonicCare (bet that person didn't care if the libraries were open or closed) and sneezing snot into a nice soft kleenex and you're retarded!
http://www.google.com/trends?q=linux+desktop&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all - Change seems to be not uphill, in the snow.
Hi Firefox dev!
When will it take less than 3 minutes for Firefox to actually load and render a website?
Seriously, my computer boots faster than the time it takes Firefox to freaking open.
We had their 0x32 hybrid switch. Bought it back in 1994 and it was the perfect phone system for small to medium sized companies. **266344. I smile every time I walk into a place and see the phones cause I know that code.
We donated it to a church/school in 2000 and other than the HD dying in the voice mail unit, it is still chugging along today. Funny thing is we paid $197,000 for it in 1994. When the HD died in 2007 I was able to buy a release 4 (with OS/2!) voice mail for $259.
Its a shame, they had some really, really nice phone systems.
We just spent $100,000+ on a new management system for our company. One of the reasons was integration with Office. Drag and drop an email and it automatically attaches it to the customer including any attachments in the email. Does this system do that?
The tools available to integrate Office apps into third party software are the real reason Office is the "800 pound gorilla in the room" and will continue to be.
Slashdot Mirror
My first computer was TI94/A that came with 2KB of RAM which I expanded to 4KB through a giant brick that plugged into the back of it. Kaypro...also, my balls are bigger than yours.
Yeah, like Zuckerberg and the OP actually have friends!
Wouldn't it be easier to just setup quotas in Active Directory?
We're starting to move to VMware's Virtual Desktops which makes a lot of these obsolete
We have people spread all over the country working out of their homes where I spend hours each month cleaning up the latest Farmbook Toolbar or whatever fake virus scanner they've installed or etc, etc etc because they have to have Admin access. VD's take this away from them and make my life easier so go VD's!"
The new version of X-Plane that the ONE person has been developing looks like its going to take Flight Sims to a whole new level. I love MS Flight Simulator and am hoping Microsoft Flight will be as good as advertised but there is nothing, NOTHING that comes close to X-Plane and its community.
I think Slashdot should change its name to "We have no real knowledge of anything but Linux and patent wrongness and Microsoft is evil and maybe/maybe not Google is and and Apple was evil but we buy their stuff anyhow and our butts don't stink because we're better than everyone else and OMG some website said there's oil in the gulf and its BP's fault and we haveto believe everything we read because it causes scare tactics that allow our Liberal Overlords to stay in power and pay us for living in our parents basement...and the tinfoil we wear on our heads and pay for our ridiculous tenures where we stare down our noses at anyone who suggests that maybe just maybe there is something better than what our 60 year old Comp Sci teacher who hasn't left the campus grounds in 30 years thinks!" No wonder Hemos and CmdrTaco left. Slashdot....another great idea taken over by the liberal types...and they destroyed it.
I have a MythTV setup in my basement (I'm still wondering when I'm going actually sit down and watch 50+ hours of A-Team and Greatest American Hero) and I totally agree with you.
Get one of these, they have one for less than $50 bucks.
Use the money you saved on buying a new Windows computer and send it to the Mono project.
And both our points proven in 3...2...1...
If the public doesn't care?
You lie, there is no such thing as a Lutheran liberal.
Also, did you go to one of the many hundreds of Lutheran schools in Texas?
And to your "undermine it from within" comment, what the hell have you liberals been doing for the past 40 years? Undermine it from within, seriously you are a liar and stupid and that makes for a punch you in the face combination. Name one, one Liberal that did one significant thing that made America better! SS and Medicare don't count because jackass I'd have donated to a private fund anyhow and it would be run a hell of a lot better than what your liberal asses came up with. Go watch Brazil then come back here and tell me that's what you really want.
Liberal Lutherans, hahahahhahaha!!!!
I've been a supporter since Slackware 0.98 and I agree. The whole point of Linux was choice. You could use whatever distro met your needs. Why is Ubuntu the be all end all distro?
"Because we have to beat Microsoft on the Desktop, duh!!!!"
I don't use Linux to be Microsoft at anything. I use the BEST tool for the JOB at hand. I don't look at Linux as a religion or a movement. Its a tool, just like Windows, just like OSX and all the others. If Linux is free why do the hard core zealots push it so hard to make money
I prefer Craftsmen for my hand tools, Dyson for my vacuum, Hoover for my carpet cleaner, Cub Cadet for my grass cutting, Pennington for my seed/fertilizer needs, Dawn soap packets for my dishwasher and Aveeno & Fructus for my body. I don't see anyone screaming Jihad on their forums.
You want to know why! Because they are marketed and reliable brands that people know and use. Microsoft, Apple, Sony, etc. guess what they have in common? Years and years of quality products with sales that allow them to market themselves. If Shuttleworth's pockets are so deep then why doesn't the average person know anything about Ubuntu?
If you bought a house without reading all the documents put in front of you then you're a fool.
I bought a house and at closing I had the realtor and finance guy sit and explain things to me very carefully because if they don't and I back out neither of them gets a commission.
It took about and hour and a half most of which was spent with me signing my name 12 different ways to decrease the possibility of fraud.
Slashdot, the only place where you get awarded for having no facts, no true wisdom and being "smarter" than everyone else.
Your insurance company doesn't sell flood insurance. The federal government sells flood insurance. Its called the NFIP - National Flood Insurance Program. They close it down and stop selling policies when they don't have enough funds to cover losses.
There are re-insurers that back it up.
And there is regulation, its called ISO and its not a government agency and a good example of how a non-government run standards organization can function.
When did Slashdot turn into the New York Times?
1999 huh?
It wasn't Sun either, why don't you just admit that the Open Source Community's attitude is what keeps "viable communities" for "insert FOSS project" from succeeding.
I've said this before but since the majority of the posters on Linux articles have either
1. Never worked in a large business
2. Worked in a large business but don't have any interest outside of the IT department
3. Are 13 years old
SOFTWARE IS CHEAP!!!!!!!!!!
Our Microsoft site licenses for Windows/Office/SQL plus (crappy) Symantec Endpoint Protection, (crappy) laptop encryption software, Adobe Acrobat Standard/Pro + Creative Suite, etc cost less annually than what we pay for:
Coffee
MFP Maintenance Contracts
Property Taxes
"Fun Committee"
"Safety Committee"
Disposables (cups, plates, paper towels, soap)
Should I continue?
Take a basic Business Finance 101 and find out just how little IT costs a company overall compared to everything else.
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. How are single digit commission rates going to entice your salespeople to sell? We give for 40% and have gone as high as 80% for our top salespeople. We've been in business 25 years. Seriously, what do they teach in college?
Microsoft (and the other companies bidding) didn't want Skype for their technology just like Fox didn't buy MySpace for their technology and the Huffington Post wasn't bought for their *technology*. Microsoft bought (and why Fox bought MySpace and etc etc etc) for the user base and the future revenue involved with said user base.
Seriously, you all need to get out of the server room, class room, mom's basement and pick up a Wall Street Journal or use rational thinking. Microsoft has shareholders as does Apple and Fox and Boeing and soon so will Facebook! These shareholders expect dividends for the money they invest. You know what happens when a company sits on its hands and does nothing and just fights among itself.....Linux happens!
I believe its more of a "Who Cares?" issue than anything else.
For a piece of software that has been around for 11.5 years and who's own website shows a 3% decrease in home usage in January 2010 (I guess given the fork turmoil ((that makes business run as fast as they can in the other direction)) they don't feel necessary to update their usage statistics) and the ">21 % in Poland,Czech Rep,Germany" that also hasn't been updated since January of 2010 PLUS there is a thing that isn't from some Slashdot clone or one of ComputerWorld or ZDNet's fanboy's or some random blogger with a sensationalist headline and no facts to back it up when it comes to LibreOffice.
LibreOffice's Market? It Sucks. Paper airplane designs? Icons to use? I mean 10th anniversary? Maybe for OpenOffice, not for LibreOffice.
As I've said before they combined total of all of our Microsoft site licenses and CAL's spread out over the life time of the software plus the Gold/G.I. Joe level of support I get from the vendor I purchase them from doesn't come close to equaling what we spend in one year on our lease+toilet paper+cups+coffee+employee reimbursements for travel expenses+continuing education that those employees went on to better themselves that we pay for+the special tape I buy to make sure the rugs at the entrance doors don't bunch up and someone trips+plates, bowls, plastic forks/spoons/knives+the safety committee budget,the fun committee budget,the alarm company monitoring charges plus the fee's we pay when someone forgets their code and sets the alarm off and police show up+overtime+a ton of things that a lot of you have no clue about! How is Linux or OpenOffice going to help me with any of that? Who am I going to call when someone has a question I can't answer? "Hello Document Foundation, my user.....".
I pay $600 for a name brand PC with Windows 7 Pro, Office 2010, and 3 years of 2/4 hour on-site service (2 for hardware, 4 for software) and before I ever even order them they send me one which I setup with our image then send back which they then load on all the other PC's, test them, and ship them over-night to me.
Oh yeah, I don't think any of that is going to FORK anytime soon.
So using your logic Chevy, Dodge, Mercury, Plymouth, Pontiac (Fiero owners REPRESENT!), Edsel, etc. never innovated and rode the coattails of Ford.
And Yahoo and Google DIDN'T ride the coattails of AltaVista
And JC Penny, Dillards and Macy's DIDN'T ride the coattails of Sears
And Apple DIDN'T ride the coattails of Xerox
And Linux DIDN'T ride the coattails of AT&T and Minix
And the web DIDN'T come from HyperCard which DIDN'T come from Gopher
And no offense, Apple built some of the crappiest crap ever...Newton, IIgs, Mac +.
As did IBM...PC jr anyone?
To say that Apple went it alone is a pile of crap. Who lent them the money to get their butt back in gear after Scully was gone and Job's came back? Who gave them the killer apps they needed to survive and of those two companies which one did Apple stab in the back when their iGadgets became popular? And who did Apple turn to when they realized that their stupid RISC PowerPC experiment was a waste of millions of dollars.....the same companies that everyone else uses. When was the last time you saw an Apple printer? What do you think Apple (like Microsoft, IBM, Oracle, Ford, General Foods, etc) does with all that capital they have? Sure they invest in R&D but they also pay people to go find things they want that other people have already created and they BUY them!
And IBM already had a market, MS-DOS that would run on different hardware configurations (unlike...hmm...APPLE) allowed the growth of the computer industry. They bought the OS fair and square and negotiated a stellar contract with IBM from a business perspective. And what happened, Tandy, Micro"fill in the blank", heck even Epson was making computer because they were cheap. For someone who has such a low UID you are either extremely biased or stupid. Do you not remember going to Walgreens or CVS in the 80's and picking up a Computer Shopper that topped out at a whopping 500+ pages and drooling at all the choices you had? In the meantime whenever someone tried to put out an Apple clone Job's sued the pants off of them.
Slashdot is the MSNBC of the IT World and is only surpassed by ComputerWorld when it comes to real and perceived reality.
That sounds like something that a "never left academia" professor spouted in class and you bought into it because he has big beard and programmed by moving wires from terminal to terminal, in the snow, uphill both ways.
If you want to eat and buy non-DRM media and toilet paper and toothpaste then you program what you get paid for. If you want to "not touch closed-source libraries" and not use "undocumented file formats (p.s. you're retarded) such as DOCX and XLSX and PDF and TXT (you're retarded)" and not eat and have to use your hand to wipe your butt, your nose and scrub your teeth, by all means continue Oh Free Software Commando.
Me I like having options and choices and toothpaste and gasoline for my world killing Explorer that I have because I use it as it was designed (F150 with an enclosed bed) and wiping my butt with mothertrucking QUINTIPLET PLY TOILET PAPER and brushing my teeth with an incredibile SonicCare (bet that person didn't care if the libraries were open or closed) and sneezing snot into a nice soft kleenex and you're retarded!
http://www.google.com/trends?q=linux+desktop&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all - Change seems to be not uphill, in the snow.
You have an 8 year old laptop that supports 1920x1200 huh?
You have lost all credibility.
Hi Firefox dev! When will it take less than 3 minutes for Firefox to actually load and render a website? Seriously, my computer boots faster than the time it takes Firefox to freaking open.
At what point does the "win" happen?
We had their 0x32 hybrid switch. Bought it back in 1994 and it was the perfect phone system for small to medium sized companies. **266344. I smile every time I walk into a place and see the phones cause I know that code.
We donated it to a church/school in 2000 and other than the HD dying in the voice mail unit, it is still chugging along today. Funny thing is we paid $197,000 for it in 1994. When the HD died in 2007 I was able to buy a release 4 (with OS/2!) voice mail for $259.
Its a shame, they had some really, really nice phone systems.
I have a few questions and I'm going to use this link just because its as retarded as the premise of your post:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C6Zz7L74Fs
We just spent $100,000+ on a new management system for our company. One of the reasons was integration with Office. Drag and drop an email and it automatically attaches it to the customer including any attachments in the email. Does this system do that?
The tools available to integrate Office apps into third party software are the real reason Office is the "800 pound gorilla in the room" and will continue to be.
Of course not, its a magic pocket!
Didn't you watch the video?