While I agree that helping to improve the economies of poorer nations may reduce terrorism, I feel that game design and programming are considered good jobs that many American programmers would be more than willing to do.
And, while writing the graphics engine would be hard work, it's far from being dirty work that needs to be sent elsewhere. If companies wanted to find American programmers they could do it very easily.
Try this one, its $50 (might be cheaper elsewhere) and has a touch-pad. Granted its PS/2. Other than that, it should work fine. Unless, you really have to have the Thinkpad style pointing device.
I would like to see such a comparison. Its hard to get an even comparison with hardware running different OS's. Although I've got a feeling that the G5 would do ok but wouldn't end up on top.
I'm not trolling but...
Maximum PC magazine had a review/benchmark in their Jan '04 edition. Featuring an AMD 64 FX-51, P4-EE and a Dual, 2 Ghz G5. (unfortunately the article isn't available online)
To summarize, the G5 finished last overall. The tests even included Photoshop (with filters provided by the folks at Mac Addict), Indesign and QuickTime. Maybe it was that even though the programs use where the similar, they were more optimized for x86 than Mac or didn't take advantage of multi-threading. I don't see how that if Dual CPU system with a faster SATA HD (the other two were running parallel ATA) couldn't beat a single CPU AMD or Pentium system, that it could be superior in more even comparison. (Same number of CPU's, same HD, same amount of RAM, etc) Then again we'll never know until we try.
I'm not surprised at all by the Apple Users' responses you got.
Mac's fans claim to be free thinkers (as opposed to the rest of use non-Apple drones) yet, they seem incapable of tolerating any dissenting opinions.
Its video games. Everytime I watch a video game match I loose interest, after 4 seconds, when I deside that it would be more fun to go play on-line. Lets face it, video games are not a spectator sport. Especially when you can control the camera, which would at least give you some degree of intereaction. Don't get me wrong I'd love to be able to play FPS's in a pro league but until they make it enjoyable to watch (on TV, with more corporate sponsors other than tech like Intel) it's not catch to non-gamers. Also, I liked the video.
Well, I got modded as troll. No doubt by some apple happy moderator, yet the parent got interesting for saying the same thing as 100 other posts. Yep, the G5 was on the Fortune site next to the worlds coolest shredder.
Do you mean that anybody can buy one from Apple.com or an Apple Store for $1700? You can get a computer at WalMart
for about $900, that will meet the needs of most users. And WalMarts are much more common than Apple Stores
Or, by accessible do you mean more user friendly? That's a matter of personal perspective. I've know poeple who've tried a OS X and hated it. Same with Windows, Linux and *BSD. Most people prefer to stick with what they know.
they ARE trying to take away our Macs!
Unless you're using your personal Mac at work then its not your Mac, it belongs to the company you work for. If they're paying you then you should use whatever they provide. If it is your Mac you're using at work then your IT is wrong for allowing machines beyond their control access to their networks. The most cost effective solution is a completely homogeneous network comprised of identical machines and software. If the IT Dept is doing its job the users should be unaware of any patching (which can be minimized and automated by utilizing the Admin tools that come with W2k or XP Pro). Obviously it's not cost effective to try and cater to every user's personal preferences. Not only would IT have to deal with cost by new Macs and Office for Mac but they'd have a whole new set security issues to deal with. Which translates to higher costs though increased training and staffing. And, on a side note. Slashdot Accounts are Free and Fun. Or, if you've already have one, Log-on.
Great, 6 months ago I got Solaris 9 for $20, under the Student/x86/1 CPU license. Can I have my $20 back? NO! Oh well. I guess thats just less beer money. Then again, for $20 it was a damn good OS. Ran a server on it, for my Unix class.
It seems like you've got a persecution complex. I see things more as Mac being ignored by most PC people until a Mac user brings up the subject. Maybe that's worse than constant berration. Really who's more likely to start-up on the Mac vs. PC topic. Mac users, hands-down. Ya, you love your computer, great. Just don't get so defensive. Nobody's trying to take away your Mac.
It's pretty sad when Windows-users feel they have to start defending themselves by pointing out that other operating systems are vulnerable Why? Mac users have been doing it for years.
Yes, this seems like a class that should be an elective after the basic OOP course. Wouldn't it be better to focus (as an elective course) on cross-platform development like Java, which can run on Mac?
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While I agree that helping to improve the economies of poorer nations may reduce terrorism, I feel that game design and programming are considered good jobs that many American programmers would be more than willing to do.
And, while writing the graphics engine would be hard work, it's far from being dirty work that needs to be sent elsewhere.
If companies wanted to find American programmers they could do it very easily.
Try this one, its $50 (might be cheaper elsewhere) and has a touch-pad.
Granted its PS/2. Other than that, it should work fine. Unless, you really have to have the Thinkpad style pointing device.
I think we should wait for an official release from any of the companies involved.
Until then the SDK is just Vaporware.
Just out of curiosity? What OS was on your 450 Mhz Dell? Windows 95 or 98?
Not trolling but, doesn't it seem unfair to compare any modern Computer to something that is 5 to 7 years old.
I could compare my 2.0 Ghz HP Laptop running XP Pro to an iMac I had in '98.
I love my HP more than that iMac (slow & and what's up with that hockey puck mouse?).
Not really a fair comparison, is it?
Hey, there's nothing wrong shameless self promotion. How else can an author get people to read his cappy books?
On an unrelated note, I will now mod this post as +2, 100% Insightful.
I would like to see such a comparison. Its hard to get an even comparison with hardware running different OS's.
Although I've got a feeling that the G5 would do ok but wouldn't end up on top.
I'm not trolling but...
Maximum PC magazine had a review/benchmark in their Jan '04 edition. Featuring an AMD 64 FX-51, P4-EE and a Dual, 2 Ghz G5. (unfortunately the article isn't available online)
To summarize, the G5 finished last overall. The tests even included Photoshop (with filters provided by the folks at Mac Addict), Indesign and QuickTime.
Maybe it was that even though the programs use where the similar, they were more optimized for x86 than Mac or didn't take advantage of multi-threading.
I don't see how that if Dual CPU system with a faster SATA HD (the other two were running parallel ATA) couldn't beat a single CPU AMD or Pentium system, that it could be superior in more even comparison. (Same number of CPU's, same HD, same amount of RAM, etc)
Then again we'll never know until we try.
Don't forget about Day of Defeat.
Well, by the time HL2 comes out, Wine for the PPC should be perfected.
I'm not surprised at all by the Apple Users' responses you got. Mac's fans claim to be free thinkers (as opposed to the rest of use non-Apple drones) yet, they seem incapable of tolerating any dissenting opinions.
Nice work on your G5/AMD mod.
Will the 15 mice be the Glow-in-the-Dark type?
Its video games. Everytime I watch a video game match I loose interest, after 4 seconds, when I deside that it would be more fun to go play on-line.
Lets face it, video games are not a spectator sport. Especially when you can control the camera, which would at least give you some degree of intereaction.
Don't get me wrong I'd love to be able to play FPS's in a pro league but until they make it enjoyable to watch (on TV, with more corporate sponsors other than tech like Intel) it's not catch to non-gamers.
Also, I liked the video.
Hopefully the SF/Tokoy route will have a stop in Hawaii.
Well, I got modded as troll. No doubt by some apple happy moderator, yet the parent got interesting for saying the same thing as 100 other posts. Yep, the G5 was on the Fortune site next to the worlds coolest shredder.
So...what did that guy mean by accessible?
Have you used Ogg Vorbis?
The Good: Its Open Source
The Bad: Not many portable music players that support it
The Ugly: name, Ogg Vorbis
they are also extremely accessible
Do you mean that anybody can buy one from Apple.com or an Apple Store for $1700? You can get a computer at WalMart for about $900, that will meet the needs of most users. And WalMarts are much more common than Apple Stores
Or, by accessible do you mean more user friendly? That's a matter of personal perspective. I've know poeple who've tried a OS X and hated it. Same with Windows, Linux and *BSD. Most people prefer to stick with what they know.
Please clarify.
While it's slow, it looks so friendly you won't mind the wait.
I think that's been the Mac philosophy all along.
What if they were to clone CowboyNeal?
they ARE trying to take away our Macs!
Unless you're using your personal Mac at work then its not your Mac, it belongs to the company you work for. If they're paying you then you should use whatever they provide. If it is your Mac you're using at work then your IT is wrong for allowing machines beyond their control access to their networks.
The most cost effective solution is a completely homogeneous network comprised of identical machines and software. If the IT Dept is doing its job the users should be unaware of any patching (which can be minimized and automated by utilizing the Admin tools that come with W2k or XP Pro).
Obviously it's not cost effective to try and cater to every user's personal preferences. Not only would IT have to deal with cost by new Macs and Office for Mac but they'd have a whole new set security issues to deal with. Which translates to higher costs though increased training and staffing.
And, on a side note. Slashdot Accounts are Free and Fun. Or, if you've already have one, Log-on.
Thanks, I feel better knowing that someone else has sufferred worse than me.
The RIAA is and always has been out for one thing, Money.
Does anybody know why its so slow on Mac? (I'm trolling either) Is problem with Java or the Mac?
Great, 6 months ago I got Solaris 9 for $20, under the Student/x86/1 CPU license. Can I have my $20 back?
NO! Oh well. I guess thats just less beer money.
Then again, for $20 it was a damn good OS. Ran a server on it, for my Unix class.
constant berration?
It seems like you've got a persecution complex. I see things more as Mac being ignored by most PC people until a Mac user brings up the subject. Maybe that's worse than constant berration.
Really who's more likely to start-up on the Mac vs. PC topic. Mac users, hands-down. Ya, you love your computer, great. Just don't get so defensive. Nobody's trying to take away your Mac.
It's pretty sad when Windows-users feel they have to start defending themselves by pointing out that other operating systems are vulnerable
Why? Mac users have been doing it for years.
Yes, this seems like a class that should be an elective after the basic OOP course.
Wouldn't it be better to focus (as an elective course) on cross-platform development like Java, which can run on Mac?