That's right I say:
JDS = GNOME = Mono =.NET on Linux
Almost:
(JDS = GNOME) != (Mono =.net on multiple platforms)
GNOME is written in C (C++?), Mono is an open implementation of.net that runs on multiple platforms (including GNOME, KDE, Solaris, Windows, etc, etc) One's a language, the other's a technology (virtual machine, languageS, etc)
...and, to be honest, JDS is like most distros: it's not just the Window Manager. But hey! Why let "facts" get in the way of a good troll!
I truly want to suspect "yes, they're all b*stards", but in truth I think probably not - well, at least not theft. For one thing, why don't closed-source houses just use BSD-licensed open-source? No theft involved. It's worked for Apple, and IIRC even Microsoft has done it (IE has old NCSA-Mosaic code?) Secondly, it's just too damn risky. All you need is one (ex-)employee with a grudge, proof and the phone number of the FSF.
Note that I'm not saying all closed-source development shuns open-source code; merely that I doubt much open-source code is stolen. But what would I know?;) And this is one time I really want to be proved wrong...
(I nearly responded to you originally as if you were a troll; I noticed you weren't an AC, and toned down` my reply - apologies if it was still relatively "forceful";)
XAML: this is my understandng, yes. Similar to Macromedia's "Flex", but generating HTML rather than Flash.
Mozilla/Netscape: I'd definitely point the finger of blame at Netscape - and IE. IE gained widespread acceptance because it mimicked the de facto standard - Netscape - with warts and all. Incidentally, that's why IE's browser string reads "Mozilla compatible...". The Mozilla Foundation ditched much (most?) of the Netscape code, hence the long delay before Mozilla 1.0, and the current focus on "not-Suite", ie. on Firefox and Thunderbird.
Kudos for having the courage to reply, and aplogies for any flames in my original response... it's Monday... I don't function well on Mondays...;)
I'm so sorry! Perhaps we should halt all further development on the web? It'd certainly make my life a great deal easier, although very, very dull.
I don't put a great deal of faith into Mozilla, whose w3c support history has been less than rosey.
In what way exactly has Mozilla's w3c support been less than "rosey"? Portable Network Graphics? CSS2-3? Ever heard of "MOSe" (Mozilla Opera Safari extensions)? They're the browsers that actually support the latest w3c standards - try doing alpha-blended PNGs on IE. Try doing CSS3 on IE.
If you want to see just how rosy the MOSe future looks, check out the Zen Garden, and in the meantime consider this: what do the w3c use as their de facto reference browser? (hint: Mozilla)
I was under the impression XAML is to be used primarily for laying out winforms, rather than as an new alternative to the tag.
You were wrong. XAML is similar to XUL (XML UI Language), or, if you like, dotNET. Just as you can use UI elements in a dotNET Windows App, you can use the same (well, similar) UI elements in an ASP.NET (web) app.
(Off topic: was anyone else disappointed that the "super" login didn't make the web control panel reveal easter eggs? I mean, you just had to try it while you were upgrading, right?)
In my experience, this phenomenon occurs only with the default theme. At work, with "Classic", XP seems to behave itself. At home, on the SO's laptop with the crap^Wdefault look & feel, explorer crashes periodically. Neither system have enough memory, so I've always put it down to "not nearly enough RAM" vs. "almost enough" - thanks for the heads-up, I'll take a look at shell extensions (I take it these are "services"/daemons?)
Gladly. Although the past 500 years haven't been as great for the Arab world two significant empires arose at the extremes: the Ottoman and Persian empires. Arab troops played a significant part in the Great War (WWI), assisting the British and Commonwealth forces against the Ottomans. Lebanon developed over the past 150 years (?) to be known as "The Paris of the Levant". Most of the Middle East provided land for US and British military bases during the Cold War, bases that are mostly still in use today.
Oh, and they've been supplying us with an important commodity for the past century or two. Damned if I can remember what it's called: if I remember, oil let you know.
Jeez! You would've though after inventing distillation we'd be grateful!
None of their policies or pledges are inherently racist.
Kilroy Silk. 'nuff said.;)
(For non-UK residents, Robert Kilroy Silk is a former chat-show host who managed to sum up algebra, chemistry and navigation as: "those A-rabs dint do squat")
And I wonder how it is redundant given I hadn't seen any comment like this by the time I had posted.
True, but comments like these come up every time there's a discussion on the relative security of Windows and Linux, so they certainly feel redundant. Linux has had worms and viruses, Linux users can be socially engineered. But a virus I catch can only damage my data; my friends and relatives with Windows routinely need helped after a virus they catch damages the entire system's data. As regards trojans, the "many eyes make bugs shallow" principle becomes "many eyes make exploits and trojans shallow". There's nowt I can do about social engineering - it potentially affects everyone (to varying degrees).
Ahh, I see the "criticize Linux" ==> moderate low rule is still in effect.
So does Windows. As a matter of fact Linux and Windows conceptually share a common security model.
But as always, the devil's in the details: most Windows systems I encounter, even today, are set up with full Admin privileges for the default user. Usability is the Windows watchword, usability at the expense of security. Until XP there was no firewall as part of the default install, and even now XP's firewall is - well - basic. I acknowledge it's possible to harden Windows; it's just that it's well beyond the capabilities of the average Windows user (myself included).
Then you haven't been looking very hard. Windows provides two methods:
1. "RunAs"
2. Switch user
"RunAs" has been available since Windows 2000. Switch user since Windows XP.
I'd forgotten about "RunAs" - my enduring memory of it was using it to get a Microsoft game (!) to run, as it wouldn't run without Admin privileges. No offense, but it's hardly "su", and coupled with an abject lack of security awareness amongst most Microsoft developers it's major role is to get round, not enhance, security. (I can't comment on SwitchUser: no direct experience)
It appears that your knowledge of Windows is woefully inadequete for a discussion about Windows security.
No argument there: I used to keep on top of Windows security, until it became too time consuming. Now I keep on top of Linux security instead.
Do you guys really think for one second that if Linux were the dominant operating system, and thus had the attention of hackers worldwide, that it would remain as secure as it seems to be now?
I'll bet it would turn up at least as full of holes as Windows is now. Microsoft OSes are under asault in a trial by fire the likes of which no one has ever seen before.
Really, this hoary old chestnut has been done-to-death. No. I don' think for one second that if Linux yada yada yada. For numerous reasons outlined already in this thread. Because Linux has a competent security model. Because Windows is homogenous - many/most users use identical apps (think Outlook Express, IE), on Linux there's too much choice for a worm, etc, to successfully propogate using one target. Because Linux doesn't default to running as root, and provides an easy mechanism for dropping-into root when you need to (disclaimer: maybe Windows has this - I've never found it, and I've been running Windows a lot longer than I've been running Linux).
Please, people, rather than using arguments like "I'll bet...", try just googling for facts. Or give up trolling.
My favourite mnemonic was "Bad Boys Ravish* Our Young Girls But Violet Goes Willingly" (Black-blue-red, etc, colour bands on resistors). Rainbows always seemed dull after electronics class...
* Why, yes, this has been changed for our new PC times.
11x17, eh? I was tempted to point out that "I live in Europe, you insensitive clod!" until I thought... that'll make it even harder! What's the US equivalent of A0, Really f*ing big? And does it have to be plastic - would a precious metal do?;)
Slightly less off-topic: the Singapore government is proposing to fine spammers up to a $1 (Singaporean) per spam. Granted, it won't stem the tide from outside Singapore, but it's a sight better than CAN-SPAM or anything the EU's proposed.
<thinks>Can't we just exile our spammers to Singapore?</thinks>
I don't equate left-wing ideologies with a belief in increased state control: consider the Anarchist and Syndicalist movements of early 20th century Europe. Likewise there are right-wing groups that believe in strong state control.
As regards Nazi persecution of the Jews, the keyword is "portrayed" - "Nazi propoganda portrayed" Jewish conspiracies; why didn't the Nazis pick on some other group? I'd submit it was due to centuries of bigotry and racism in Europe, not due to a legitimate concern about unemployment.
I really fail to see why Nazis are considered to be right-wing.
Mainly because they butchered the real Socialists (SPD), the Trade Unionists and Communists (KPD), failed to nationalize companies (instead permitting Corporatism - that which Mussoline regarded as "Fascism"), failed to institute profit-sharing, etc.
Socialism tends to be regarded - by most Socialists - as an Internationalist creed. Fascism - and Nazism - pretty much rejects Internationalism except maybe as a source of short-term alliances.
The Nazis also enjoyed the support of the more conservative sections of Weimar society - the Junkers class, for example, and many industrialists.
Because of irregularities in definition and usage of the kilobyte, the exact number could be any one of the following:
1. 1,125,899,906,842,624 bytes - 10245, or 250. This is 1024 times a terabyte. This is the definition used in computer science and computer programming
You're thinking of Kelvin. Celcius is a scale measured into degrees, hence the archaic use of centigrade (there are 100 degrees between water freezing and boiling).
The degree Celsius (C) is a unit of temperature named after the Swedish astronomer Anders Celsius (1701-1744), who first proposed it in 1742. The Celsius temperature scale was designed so that the freezing point of water is 0 degrees, and the boiling point is 100 degrees at standard atmospheric pressure.
The kelvin as an SI unit is correctly written with a lowercase k (unless at the beginning of a sentence), and is never preceded by the words degree or degrees, or the symbol , like Fahrenheit, or Celsius. This is because the latter are scales of measurement, whereas the kelvin is a unit of measurement.
Can any US scientist help me out here - do _you_ use the metric system? What I'm getting at is: I seem to recall that US scientists _do_ use metric; it's just not a mandated standard for society at large. Am I way off-base here?
Incidentally, before knocking the non-metric US, remember that there are other guilty parties: the UK still proudly uses miles, pints and it's a real concession when weather forecasters deign to tell us the temperature in "Centigrade" as well as degrees Fahrenheight. ("Centigrade"? WTF? How difficult is it to say "degrees Celcius"?)
Re:Why is the GBA the center of portable gaming?
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Why is Nintendo so entrenched in portable gaming? Long-term involvment. Just yesterday I was busy with all the home's computers, so my girlfriend dug out some old (1983!) Nintendo "game and watches" I have. They still work, they're still fun.
I agree that GPS on the GBA seems odd, though, but I'd guess the target market is more youthful - the kind of market that (like my niece!) loves Barbie Walkie-Talkies, and can accept the imitations.
Perhaps Nintendo can turn global navigation into a 2d mario-style game. Then, I could break the road blocks in my way by jumping up at them.
I'm sold! Reminds me of a marathon Sonic-the-Hedgehog-and-beer session at college, and the journey to the pub afterwards: took me the entire journey to realise my "jump button" wasn't working...!
No need - there's already an organisation dedicated to making the web a more friendly place. The problem is, some, browsers don't follow the standards too well, choosing to implement proprietary extensions to published standards, and implementing standard extensions slowly at best.
<voice type="Blackadder-Wise-Woman">There are three solutions to this:
Persuade certain browser vendors to comply with modern standards;
Persuade the entire online community to switch browsers to modern, standards-compliant browsers;
Kill everybody!
</voice>
Re:American opinion is no measure of truth
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The Telegraph is the most right-wing mainstream newspaper in Britain. It's also the most popular. And it's a European paper (albeit one that doesn't like other European countries). Proving:
Your sweeping generalisation about Europeans is nothing more than, well, a sweeping generalisation - much of Europe is as ill-informed as much of the USA;
That one right-wing paper believes that Saddam worked with Bin Laden - while pretty much every other newspaper in Europe knows that Saddam worked with Cheney and Bin Laden worked with our friends the Saudis (oh, and the CIA).
And, for the record, it's not Sharon who gives me nightmares: apart from the 6-day War Israel has very limited experience of invading other nations, and it's arsenal of WMD is presumably very limited. My personal nightmare is a Texan.
...and netbeans, though the license was the Sun Public License (like the Mozilla license), rather than the GPL.
...though I'm more an eclipse kinda guy, myself.
That's right I say: .NET on Linux
JDS = GNOME = Mono =
Almost: .net on multiple platforms)
(JDS = GNOME) != (Mono =
GNOME is written in C (C++?), Mono is an open implementation of .net that runs on multiple platforms (including GNOME, KDE, Solaris, Windows, etc, etc) One's a language, the other's a technology (virtual machine, languageS, etc)
...and, to be honest, JDS is like most distros: it's not just the Window Manager. But hey! Why let "facts" get in the way of a good troll!
I truly want to suspect "yes, they're all b*stards", but in truth I think probably not - well, at least not theft. For one thing, why don't closed-source houses just use BSD-licensed open-source? No theft involved. It's worked for Apple, and IIRC even Microsoft has done it (IE has old NCSA-Mosaic code?) Secondly, it's just too damn risky. All you need is one (ex-)employee with a grudge, proof and the phone number of the FSF.
Note that I'm not saying all closed-source development shuns open-source code; merely that I doubt much open-source code is stolen. But what would I know? ;) And this is one time I really want to be proved wrong...
(I nearly responded to you originally as if you were a troll; I noticed you weren't an AC, and toned down` my reply - apologies if it was still relatively "forceful" ;)
XAML: this is my understandng, yes. Similar to Macromedia's "Flex", but generating HTML rather than Flash.
Mozilla/Netscape: I'd definitely point the finger of blame at Netscape - and IE. IE gained widespread acceptance because it mimicked the de facto standard - Netscape - with warts and all. Incidentally, that's why IE's browser string reads "Mozilla compatible ...". The Mozilla Foundation ditched much (most?) of the Netscape code, hence the long delay before Mozilla 1.0, and the current focus on "not-Suite", ie. on Firefox and Thunderbird.
Kudos for having the courage to reply, and aplogies for any flames in my original response... it's Monday... I don't function well on Mondays... ;)
Great, yet more web standards to learn.
I'm so sorry! Perhaps we should halt all further development on the web? It'd certainly make my life a great deal easier, although very, very dull.
I don't put a great deal of faith into Mozilla, whose w3c support history has been less than rosey.
In what way exactly has Mozilla's w3c support been less than "rosey"? Portable Network Graphics? CSS2-3? Ever heard of "MOSe" (Mozilla Opera Safari extensions)? They're the browsers that actually support the latest w3c standards - try doing alpha-blended PNGs on IE. Try doing CSS3 on IE. If you want to see just how rosy the MOSe future looks, check out the Zen Garden, and in the meantime consider this: what do the w3c use as their de facto reference browser? (hint: Mozilla)
I was under the impression XAML is to be used primarily for laying out winforms, rather than as an new alternative to the tag.
You were wrong. XAML is similar to XUL (XML UI Language), or, if you like, dotNET. Just as you can use UI elements in a dotNET Windows App, you can use the same (well, similar) UI elements in an ASP.NET (web) app.
Thanks, just downloaded and upgraded.
(Off topic: was anyone else disappointed that the "super" login didn't make the web control panel reveal easter eggs? I mean, you just had to try it while you were upgrading, right?)
(Not the OP, but it's happened to me too)
In my experience, this phenomenon occurs only with the default theme. At work, with "Classic", XP seems to behave itself. At home, on the SO's laptop with the crap^Wdefault look & feel, explorer crashes periodically. Neither system have enough memory, so I've always put it down to "not nearly enough RAM" vs. "almost enough" - thanks for the heads-up, I'll take a look at shell extensions (I take it these are "services"/daemons?)
Gladly. Although the past 500 years haven't been as great for the Arab world two significant empires arose at the extremes: the Ottoman and Persian empires. Arab troops played a significant part in the Great War (WWI), assisting the British and Commonwealth forces against the Ottomans. Lebanon developed over the past 150 years (?) to be known as "The Paris of the Levant". Most of the Middle East provided land for US and British military bases during the Cold War, bases that are mostly still in use today.
Oh, and they've been supplying us with an important commodity for the past century or two. Damned if I can remember what it's called: if I remember, oil let you know.
Jeez! You would've though after inventing distillation we'd be grateful!
None of their policies or pledges are inherently racist.
Kilroy Silk. 'nuff said. ;)
(For non-UK residents, Robert Kilroy Silk is a former chat-show host who managed to sum up algebra, chemistry and navigation as: "those A-rabs dint do squat")
And I wonder how it is redundant given I hadn't seen any comment like this by the time I had posted.
True, but comments like these come up every time there's a discussion on the relative security of Windows and Linux, so they certainly feel redundant. Linux has had worms and viruses, Linux users can be socially engineered. But a virus I catch can only damage my data; my friends and relatives with Windows routinely need helped after a virus they catch damages the entire system's data. As regards trojans, the "many eyes make bugs shallow" principle becomes "many eyes make exploits and trojans shallow". There's nowt I can do about social engineering - it potentially affects everyone (to varying degrees).
Ahh, I see the "criticize Linux" ==> moderate low rule is still in effect.
Sorry, mate, I think you wanted somewhere else.
So does Windows. As a matter of fact Linux and Windows conceptually share a common security model.
But as always, the devil's in the details: most Windows systems I encounter, even today, are set up with full Admin privileges for the default user. Usability is the Windows watchword, usability at the expense of security. Until XP there was no firewall as part of the default install, and even now XP's firewall is - well - basic. I acknowledge it's possible to harden Windows; it's just that it's well beyond the capabilities of the average Windows user (myself included).
Then you haven't been looking very hard. Windows provides two methods:
1. "RunAs"
2. Switch user
"RunAs" has been available since Windows 2000. Switch user since Windows XP.
I'd forgotten about "RunAs" - my enduring memory of it was using it to get a Microsoft game (!) to run, as it wouldn't run without Admin privileges. No offense, but it's hardly "su", and coupled with an abject lack of security awareness amongst most Microsoft developers it's major role is to get round, not enhance, security. (I can't comment on SwitchUser: no direct experience)
It appears that your knowledge of Windows is woefully inadequete for a discussion about Windows security.
No argument there: I used to keep on top of Windows security, until it became too time consuming. Now I keep on top of Linux security instead.
Really, this hoary old chestnut has been done-to-death. No. I don' think for one second that if Linux yada yada yada. For numerous reasons outlined already in this thread. Because Linux has a competent security model. Because Windows is homogenous - many/most users use identical apps (think Outlook Express, IE), on Linux there's too much choice for a worm, etc, to successfully propogate using one target. Because Linux doesn't default to running as root, and provides an easy mechanism for dropping-into root when you need to (disclaimer: maybe Windows has this - I've never found it, and I've been running Windows a lot longer than I've been running Linux).
Please, people, rather than using arguments like "I'll bet...", try just googling for facts. Or give up trolling.
My favourite mnemonic was "Bad Boys Ravish* Our Young Girls But Violet Goes Willingly" (Black-blue-red, etc, colour bands on resistors). Rainbows always seemed dull after electronics class...
* Why, yes, this has been changed for our new PC times.
Wind and solar. Part of their infrastructure is half-way up trees on the sides of mountains, so it's pretty exposed and ideal for wind and sun.
11x17, eh? I was tempted to point out that "I live in Europe, you insensitive clod!" until I thought... that'll make it even harder! What's the US equivalent of A0, Really f*ing big? And does it have to be plastic - would a precious metal do? ;)
Slightly less off-topic: the Singapore government is proposing to fine spammers up to a $1 (Singaporean) per spam. Granted, it won't stem the tide from outside Singapore, but it's a sight better than CAN-SPAM or anything the EU's proposed.
<thinks>Can't we just exile our spammers to Singapore?</thinks>
Hmmm, Ive got 100 kilometers to my destination and 15 gallons of gas.
Litres, sir, Litres.
I am driving an Hummer H2
Robin Reliant, Ithinkyoumean. If you're going to use Metric, you've gotta learn to think European.
I don't equate left-wing ideologies with a belief in increased state control: consider the Anarchist and Syndicalist movements of early 20th century Europe. Likewise there are right-wing groups that believe in strong state control.
As regards Nazi persecution of the Jews, the keyword is "portrayed" - "Nazi propoganda portrayed" Jewish conspiracies; why didn't the Nazis pick on some other group? I'd submit it was due to centuries of bigotry and racism in Europe, not due to a legitimate concern about unemployment.
I really fail to see why Nazis are considered to be right-wing.
Mainly because they butchered the real Socialists (SPD), the Trade Unionists and Communists (KPD), failed to nationalize companies (instead permitting Corporatism - that which Mussoline regarded as "Fascism"), failed to institute profit-sharing, etc.
Socialism tends to be regarded - by most Socialists - as an Internationalist creed. Fascism - and Nazism - pretty much rejects Internationalism except maybe as a source of short-term alliances.
The Nazis also enjoyed the support of the more conservative sections of Weimar society - the Junkers class, for example, and many industrialists.
As always, wikipedia has the answer(s):
Damn! Ambiguity!
You're thinking of Kelvin. Celcius is a scale measured into degrees, hence the archaic use of centigrade (there are 100 degrees between water freezing and boiling).
Wikipedia has the answers:
Can any US scientist help me out here - do _you_ use the metric system? What I'm getting at is: I seem to recall that US scientists _do_ use metric; it's just not a mandated standard for society at large. Am I way off-base here?
Incidentally, before knocking the non-metric US, remember that there are other guilty parties: the UK still proudly uses miles, pints and it's a real concession when weather forecasters deign to tell us the temperature in "Centigrade" as well as degrees Fahrenheight. ("Centigrade"? WTF? How difficult is it to say "degrees Celcius"?)
Why is Nintendo so entrenched in portable gaming? Long-term involvment. Just yesterday I was busy with all the home's computers, so my girlfriend dug out some old (1983!) Nintendo "game and watches" I have. They still work, they're still fun.
I agree that GPS on the GBA seems odd, though, but I'd guess the target market is more youthful - the kind of market that (like my niece!) loves Barbie Walkie-Talkies, and can accept the imitations.
Perhaps Nintendo can turn global navigation into a 2d mario-style game. Then, I could break the road blocks in my way by jumping up at them.
I'm sold! Reminds me of a marathon Sonic-the-Hedgehog-and-beer session at college, and the journey to the pub afterwards: took me the entire journey to realise my "jump button" wasn't working...!
No need - there's already an organisation dedicated to making the web a more friendly place. The problem is, some, browsers don't follow the standards too well, choosing to implement proprietary extensions to published standards, and implementing standard extensions slowly at best.
<voice type="Blackadder-Wise-Woman">There are three solutions to this:
- Persuade certain browser vendors to comply with modern standards;
- Persuade the entire online community to switch browsers to modern, standards-compliant browsers;
- Kill everybody!
</voice>The Telegraph is the most right-wing mainstream newspaper in Britain. It's also the most popular. And it's a European paper (albeit one that doesn't like other European countries). Proving:
And, for the record, it's not Sharon who gives me nightmares: apart from the 6-day War Israel has very limited experience of invading other nations, and it's arsenal of WMD is presumably very limited. My personal nightmare is a Texan.
The bad spelling is the post is the point of it.
You do surprise me...
The AC replying to the grandparent made a lame joke in response to a common, typical /. joke. Badly. I'm surprised you can't...oh never mind.
Are you new here?
Well, you could always check my user page and see how many postings I've made, how many submissions I've had accepted/rejected?