Neither of your lists include Tetris, Street Fighter II, Super Mario 64, Tomb Raider, any Final Fantasy game or any sports game. All of which would be very important for your "required gaming" list.
I'd love to see someone try to make a real list of "canon" games someday though.
I think TFA is missing a few key pieces of data.
First, he's using the EBGames website for his information, which is not terribly accurate.
The release list I maintain has a 50/60 Xbox/Xbox 360 split. Not quite a big difference. Sure, 2007 will be all 360, but right now this is probably the best console transition for owners of the obsolete system ever.
A single 0% rating (or 1% if your system doesn't allow for 0) would bump the median down a lot. What you'd need would be deviation from average score for games rated > 80%.
People tie NGJ to reviews because many of NGJ's biggest proponents are always talking about how it can "replace" the traditional review structure.
Which is crap.
If you read the NGJ Manifesto, he never mentions replacing reviews, just broadening the horizons of game writing.
That's a noble goal, one I try to do in my writing, even though I'm a hack. But the pretentious followers of NGJ are also the ones that scream the loudest about how "it's better and smarter and did I mention better?"
The two can co-exist and when people realize that, game journalism (notice the lack of New) will be in a better place.
Like I said in the article, CD-ROMs were discontinued at my library last year (about 50-100 were games). Patrons were having problems with used CD Keys and it was just easier to stop the whole thing.
Basically, as long as we put a disclaimer on the package saying the program had to be removed from the patron's computer before it was all kosher with the EULA.
Amelie also had more swearing than a drunken sailor in a brothel. And a considerable amount of sex and nudity.
Another bad counterexample.
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It's pretty well acknowledged that one of the biggest 'selling points' for many is that PS/PS2 games are easy as anything to rip off.
Acknowledged by who? Members of the Slashdot community?
SLASHDOT IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
Piracy still happens, but console piracy hasn't been a "problem" since the days of the NES.
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You realize that console piracy (Acclaim's main business) is no longer that prevalent right?
Sure it happens, but one of the big plues of gaming going mainstream is that most console owners don't even know where to find pirated games or how to make them work.
1. The majority of titles worth playing are made in Japan.
That hasn't been true in a long time and any gamer could make a huge list of American titles that are not only worth playing, but sit as some of the best games of this generation.
systems like GameRankings are ludicrous. Comparing the reviews from EGM, GameSpot, 1up.com, and other reputable, professional sources against GameSpy, GamePro, or IGN is like averaging out the opinions between a group of college professors and the judging panel for a wet T-shirt contest.
I don't think that's fair at all. While granted, GamePro is not exactly a bastion of gaming insight, they put out a decent product.
And those so called amateur sites can do just as well. Netjak consistently impresses me with what an "amateur" site can do.
Game Rankings in particular is good because they include a "difference" listing for each site to compare how far their reviews are from the average of each game.
For example, you can see that the average PSX Nation review is 8.5% higher than the average.
You've described one character, Kim Bauer. She is obviously a wasted character after the first season and is only still on the show because Elisa Cuthbert is gorgeous.
Michelle Dessler Mandy The Assassin Nina Myers Kate Warner Lynne Kresge
Al strong female characters, and especially over the last few episodes, Michelle has come into her own. Sure a few are "pure evil" but why can't female characters be pure evil, they're great characters!
Maybe it's right, maybe it's wrong, but there's absolutly no difference from the perspective of the producer between downloading a PDF or a book and getting it at the library.
Absolutly no difference.
Wrong! Actually so wrong it hurts.
Piracy of theft of property, intellectual, physical, whatever.
Used games/books/whatever are the second sale of property. After something has been bought at retail it becomes property and whatever a person chooses to do with his own property is his business within the bounds of the law. And selling used items will never be illegal.
Libraries are also not "pirates" because they buy every item they have in their collection at retail. So the publisher has already received their royalty. And by allowing people to "borrow" said item, they are within the bounds of the law.
While there are plenty of similarities between Resident Evil and the Night of the Living Dead series, I really don't see how it's even an indirect adaptation of anything.
Zombies are a universal monster and just because you use that for a story doesn't make it connected in anyway to the most popular version of that character.
look at EA sports titles.. usally the same game dressed up differently... some code changes but mostly art changes, and people buy them!! Year after year after year.
I doubt very many people buy EA Sports titles for the (minisculy) updated graphics engine year after year. It's the updated rosters that bring people back to EA Sports year after year. And they've been doing that for years, before there even was such a thing as animations, FMV, licensed soundtracks, etc.
Personally, if Tecmo put out Tecmo Super Bowl with updated rosters I'd snap it up in a heartbeat.
Oh please, that's the most tired argument in the book. Some people prefer a controller. Some people prefer a mouse and keyboard. One is not inherently better than the other. And
You forgot the word "poorly" in that last sentence. There's a reason why most console FPSes have autoaim and most computer FPSes don't.
The movie ratings (PG, R, etc.) are legally enforceable. The store owner can be fined or imprisoned for allowing the sale or rental of an R-rated product to a minor. Video game ratings are voluntarily provided suggestions to the consumer about the content of the game.
Sorry, but that's bullshit. There is no law that "enforces" the MPAA ratings. It's enforced solely by the MPAA through the use of fines and the threat of withholding major movies from violators.
Actually, much the game industry says they would do to offenders of the ESRB ratings. The movie industry is just better at it.
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So once again the east coast gets the shaft when it comes to a game-related expo/convention.
You know, a lot of people (why, it's probably close to half of the country!) lives closer to the Atlantic Ocean.
Making lists like this is seriously flawed.
Neither of your lists include Tetris, Street Fighter II, Super Mario 64, Tomb Raider, any Final Fantasy game or any sports game. All of which would be very important for your "required gaming" list.
I'd love to see someone try to make a real list of "canon" games someday though.
So who's going to tell these jokers that the "most violent" game on their list is a T rated game?
Kinda makes their study of "Most Violent E Rated Games" a little invalid, don't you think?
I think TFA is missing a few key pieces of data. First, he's using the EBGames website for his information, which is not terribly accurate. The release list I maintain has a 50/60 Xbox/Xbox 360 split. Not quite a big difference. Sure, 2007 will be all 360, but right now this is probably the best console transition for owners of the obsolete system ever.
A single 0% rating (or 1% if your system doesn't allow for 0) would bump the median down a lot. What you'd need would be deviation from average score for games rated > 80%.
Wabam!
People tie NGJ to reviews because many of NGJ's biggest proponents are always talking about how it can "replace" the traditional review structure.
Which is crap.
If you read the NGJ Manifesto, he never mentions replacing reviews, just broadening the horizons of game writing.
That's a noble goal, one I try to do in my writing, even though I'm a hack. But the pretentious followers of NGJ are also the ones that scream the loudest about how "it's better and smarter and did I mention better?"
The two can co-exist and when people realize that, game journalism (notice the lack of New) will be in a better place.
It's especially old when you consider the fact that Sony released this information in press release form a month ago.
So in reality, engadget, et al is really LATE with their news.
Some libraries do in fact carry Playboy.
It is kept behind the desk and must be requested by a patron to be viewed.
Video Game Librarian checking in.
Like I said in the article, CD-ROMs were discontinued at my library last year (about 50-100 were games). Patrons were having problems with used CD Keys and it was just easier to stop the whole thing.
Basically, as long as we put a disclaimer on the package saying the program had to be removed from the patron's computer before it was all kosher with the EULA.
Amelie also had more swearing than a drunken sailor in a brothel. And a considerable amount of sex and nudity.
Another bad counterexample.
It's pretty well acknowledged that one of the biggest 'selling points' for many is that PS/PS2 games are easy as anything to rip off.
Acknowledged by who? Members of the Slashdot community?
SLASHDOT IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
Piracy still happens, but console piracy hasn't been a "problem" since the days of the NES.
You realize that console piracy (Acclaim's main business) is no longer that prevalent right?
Sure it happens, but one of the big plues of gaming going mainstream is that most console owners don't even know where to find pirated games or how to make them work.
Just to point out a quick something Mario 64 is the ONLY remake the DS will see.
GoldenEye is an unknown at this point and should not be considered a remake.
1. The majority of titles worth playing are made in Japan.
That hasn't been true in a long time and any gamer could make a huge list of American titles that are not only worth playing, but sit as some of the best games of this generation.
systems like GameRankings are ludicrous. Comparing the reviews from EGM, GameSpot, 1up.com, and other reputable, professional sources against GameSpy, GamePro, or IGN is like averaging out the opinions between a group of college professors and the judging panel for a wet T-shirt contest.
I don't think that's fair at all. While granted, GamePro is not exactly a bastion of gaming insight, they put out a decent product.
And those so called amateur sites can do just as well. Netjak consistently impresses me with what an "amateur" site can do.
Numbers don't always suck though.
There are plenty of sites that average review scores. Others have already pointed out GameTab and Rotten Tomatoes. There is also GameStats, Gaming Chart and Game Rankings
Game Rankings in particular is good because they include a "difference" listing for each site to compare how far their reviews are from the average of each game.
For example, you can see that the average PSX Nation review is 8.5% higher than the average.
You've described one character, Kim Bauer. She is obviously a wasted character after the first season and is only still on the show because Elisa Cuthbert is gorgeous.
Michelle Dessler
Mandy The Assassin
Nina Myers
Kate Warner
Lynne Kresge
Al strong female characters, and especially over the last few episodes, Michelle has come into her own. Sure a few are "pure evil" but why can't female characters be pure evil, they're great characters!
Seiken Densetsu (AKA Final Fantasy Adventure) was recently rereleased on the GBA as Sword of Mana, so maybe there's hope for Secret of Mana 2.
Maybe it's right, maybe it's wrong, but there's absolutly no difference from the perspective of the producer between downloading a PDF or a book and getting it at the library.
Absolutly no difference.
Wrong! Actually so wrong it hurts.
Piracy of theft of property, intellectual, physical, whatever.
Used games/books/whatever are the second sale of property. After something has been bought at retail it becomes property and whatever a person chooses to do with his own property is his business within the bounds of the law. And selling used items will never be illegal.
Libraries are also not "pirates" because they buy every item they have in their collection at retail. So the publisher has already received their royalty. And by allowing people to "borrow" said item, they are within the bounds of the law.
You're wrong, deal with it.
While there are plenty of similarities between Resident Evil and the Night of the Living Dead series, I really don't see how it's even an indirect adaptation of anything.
Zombies are a universal monster and just because you use that for a story doesn't make it connected in anyway to the most popular version of that character.
But if you've got a cite I'd love to read it.
look at EA sports titles.. usally the same game dressed up differently... some code changes but mostly art changes, and people buy them!! Year after year after year.
I doubt very many people buy EA Sports titles for the (minisculy) updated graphics engine year after year. It's the updated rosters that bring people back to EA Sports year after year. And they've been doing that for years, before there even was such a thing as animations, FMV, licensed soundtracks, etc.
Personally, if Tecmo put out Tecmo Super Bowl with updated rosters I'd snap it up in a heartbeat.
Oh please, that's the most tired argument in the book. Some people prefer a controller. Some people prefer a mouse and keyboard. One is not inherently better than the other. And
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You forgot the word "poorly" in that last sentence. There's a reason why most console FPSes have autoaim and most computer FPSes don't.
cough... Doom
While that is true, the MPAA owns the copyright to the ratings G, PG, PG-13, R, and NC-17.
So at the very least, the MPAA sanctions and approves of the ratings the Ontario Board gives.
But maybe a kindly Canadian lawyer can come by and settle this debate.
The movie ratings (PG, R, etc.) are legally enforceable. The store owner can be fined or imprisoned for allowing the sale or rental of an R-rated product to a minor. Video game ratings are voluntarily provided suggestions to the consumer about the content of the game.
Sorry, but that's bullshit. There is no law that "enforces" the MPAA ratings. It's enforced solely by the MPAA through the use of fines and the threat of withholding major movies from violators.
Actually, much the game industry says they would do to offenders of the ESRB ratings. The movie industry is just better at it.
While we're talking underappreciated games, has anyone played Culdcept?
It's a great game that fuses Monopoly and Magic: The Gathering into a game that's really good.
Definitely not mainstream and it was only released in December, yet it's hard to find anywhere now.