unless the hard drive has been started without booting the OS
And that's why they can't say whether the data was accessed or not. Boot the system up, go to BIOS, disable S.M.A.R.T. feature, get the hitachi drive tool, disable S.M.A.R.T. on the harddrive, boot from any OS (Linux, Solaris, etc.) from CD-ROM and make a copy just like the FBI did.
That's not truly "raw" access to the hard drive. It's the logical data of the disk, not the physical data, and you are still going through the drive's logic. You won't modify the filesystem, but the SMART data will still be updated. And to respond to the GP, it doesn't matter if you disable SMART in the BIOS, because all that setting does is control whether the BIOS checks the SMART status of drives and warns you of a failure before booting.
Unless you disable it, see above. Sure you need to know something about data access, but realising there is some valuable data on it, may make you a bit more catious and let somebody do it, that has some basic knowledge, it isn't that difficult. How long was the laptop gone? To say the probablility is low that the data wasn't access, because you can't prove it and just don't see any access to the database, is like nobody drove my car, because the miles are still the same and the tank is still full...
Yes, smells fishy, but if he was allowed a) to take a laptop home and b) use a database at home and c) had the permission to access personal data, how can he get these permissions without proper encryption?
If you allow a) somebody from the IT dep. should look at it b) somebody (hopefully the same person) should look at it c) somebody from IT and a lot more should have a look at it
Well, yes SS2 was creepy, but SS1 was the first time you could play a creepy semi-first-person-intelligent-story-game. And Diego was really, really mean. And I loved to go into "cyberspace".
We do not know at what point the consciousness starts to develop in human embryo. Without knowing this, in fact without not even knowing human psyche, it is plain murder to commit such 'research'.
I am sorry, but if you start argueing with consciousness, than you could even allow to kill a baby which is about a half a year old. Consciousness does imply that you are aware of your self. Talk to psychologists, neurologists and philosopher, they all agree that it is dangerous to argue with consciousness because it develops after birth.
And even if you would asume that there is sth. like it before, it won't be there before a brain develops and this is certainly not the case before the neuroblast has formed. A cell or several cells for sure won't have consciousness.
Don't get me wrong, I have severe difficulties to judge in this topic, but arguing with consciousness is very dangerous, that's why so many people argue with the possibility of human life.
The point is, that an aggregate of cells and the extraction of cells can't be considered as killing, but if you do so, than you have to do this also in the aforementioned cases.
I guess some of you have a quite expicit picture in your mind, a little less developed baby, as somebody here even said baby killer. May be you should know that cloning an embryo to "produce" stem cells means, that you have a developing human, yes, but this developing human is a little sphere of cells. This aggregation of cells becomes a blastocyst and one part of it becomes the embryo. Befor this happens you want to take out these cells, as these cells are omnipotent stem cells, which means they can develop and differenciate into different tissues, hopefully and only once there a implanted there. In the future they may even develop into tissue ex vivo i.e. outside of your body, but thats far fetched.
If you say that this amount of cells are already a human being, than you have to monitor every female human, as natural failure after fertilization occurs every moment. Most women get pregnant and lose their "baby" in the first six weeks without even noticing.
Cloning human (tissue even) is certainly something one should discuss, but keep in mind that you put a very high value on one unborn human, while the same society doesn't have any problem in spending 100 times more on military (and using it) than others on medicine.
Furthermore all the implications this may have on society should be discussed; a longer life span, but less and less work for everybody (now a problem in europe and US, soon one in china and india), who will get the benefit, the one with money or everybody? In other words will we have rich 1000 year old and poor that won't reach the age of 80?
Certainly a lot to discuss, but you have to get some background knowledge, otherwise it is just "I have a strong feeling against it"...
How can an OS that I can compile cave to the wishes of others?
On what do you run your OS? Is it a computer? Well sooner or later it is going to fail and you need to buy a new one (or parts of it). Ever heard about HD-TV-ready hardware, which has a build in protection against analog copying and allows output only to a certain digital connector, which can't be interrupted (too lazy to dig up the details).
What if future motherboards will have DRM already integrated and do need to have it integrated by law? And what if the american DRM legislation is enforced on your country by trade restrictions, WHO etc.?
What if legislation requires that internet-routers check for a little signature in packets, that shows you have a DRM-enabled system or not?
All the people paying for office are businesses - they can't afford their office to be down (through network problems or google problems).
And aside from this concern, they for sure can't affort to have business critical data stored on a server they have no control over.
Even as a private user I would like to keep my data and have a local backup. While gmail is nice, I won't use it for sth. important or mission critical.
It doesn't "drive" the hardware for ever and ever, it helps the system to communicate with that piece of hardware. Did you never saw a message that stated " you need driver version x.y.z for this to work"? Well put this a bit to the extreme and a driver will only work to a certain extend and than you have to get some "update".
Look at windows media payer or itunes, they are already installing features that directly interact with your hardware.
Or do you know if and how service pack 2 for XP changed the way the system communicate with the hardware?
Sure, tell this to the average user, who buys computers with preinstalled Vista, OSX, etc. and has "automatic update" activ, because of all these virii. Or you may need a new driver (previous one stopped working, was only temp)...but you can access the driver page only after you installed a certain DRM-patch...
I work in an institute with apple user computers ( servers are something with a good service, so no apple). We get a good deal, because of our user base size, but they are still able to ship us comps with US power adapters (try them in europe), again and again.
Tiger didn't run some of the software we are using, our problem... They ship all new iBooks, etc. with Tiger, whereas some of the two year old modells doesn't run Tiger, that's called support hell.
And while the Mac shops in U.S. may be good (I don't know) you barely see some here and occasionally you get the impression they are run by, well, apple fanboys...
Wasn't there this problem with these ipod batteries...
did mentioned UAVs to conduct reconnaissance in the United States, and it also described how well it (and all coming patriot acts) protected America against, well, against whom?
Yes, you're absolutely right. It was meant as serious as the prospect of entering via an antigravity device (or wannabe black hole) the ultimate hell and come back out of it...as it is described in "Event horizon"
hell, if you look at mankinds history, this things must have happened some thousands years ago...Nero, Caligula, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot and others were probably trained on that ship
Does anyone else get the impression that most people have no idea the potential for nanotech?
Yes, we all got that impression, feeling better now? Now, what is the POTENTIAL of nanotech, particular when you don't even define the field in which it should be used or applied, can you briefly decribe all potential applications and changes we will have in fields like computing, medicine, chemistry, physics, biotech, sociology and politcs, not to forget DRM...
Oh yes, and dogfights were you approached your opponent with full speed, launch some rockets and then while passing twist 180 and shoot in his back. Or a mision where you had to manoever into a relay transmitter and dock to it. And all the film scences... just some of the best games I ever experienced.
will it display personal advertisement, once I wear my soon obligatory RFID-tag or do I have to wait until I can enter the store only after they did an iris scan and checked my terrorism background?
But what's called "decoupled flight" in aerospace terminiology (vehicle is "pointed" in a direction other than the direction of travel), is actually very difficult to manage and control for an unskilled operator, it takes a very well-developed sense of 3 dimensional thought.
It has been realised for around 5 to 6 years now in the above mentioned games, but they never became popular. Guess it was to difficult to play, although a lot of fun
And a few years before that, the Nazi concentration camps were desroyed and the "workers" there punished.
Yes, but they have been brought to court and than they were punished. They haven't been killed by a mob, that thought it got the "right" to kill from god.
...since we're constantly hearing from Mac owners how wonderful OS X is, then why would they give a damn about this?
What else should they say? They said the same about OS9 and all this things before (calling it system would be a joke; anybody remember how to allocated ram to your application?), but never looked around.
Yes, OS X is fine and quite stable too, but I'm missing a good office, like OOO 2.0. Running openoffice under OS X isn't really nice (fonts,printers, network file access, etc) and Neooffice is too old.
And I don't want to use MS Office, thanks for the suggestion.
I think everybody in science and particular the ones involved in game theory will tell you that playing (games) is one of the most fundamental part of the learning process.
So just because some people don't like the name "game" because of marketing issues doesn't change the fact that we humans like to play games.
So let's start playing:
Doctor game
marriage game
war game
"You will by my weapons, I support your campain financially" game
"I provide content, you enforce DRM" game
Slashdot Mirror
And that's why they can't say whether the data was accessed or not. Boot the system up, go to BIOS, disable S.M.A.R.T. feature, get the hitachi drive tool, disable S.M.A.R.T. on the harddrive, boot from any OS (Linux, Solaris, etc.) from CD-ROM and make a copy just like the FBI did.
Unless you disable it, see above. Sure you need to know something about data access, but realising there is some valuable data on it, may make you a bit more catious and let somebody do it, that has some basic knowledge, it isn't that difficult. How long was the laptop gone? To say the probablility is low that the data wasn't access, because you can't prove it and just don't see any access to the database, is like nobody drove my car, because the miles are still the same and the tank is still full...
Yes, smells fishy, but if he was allowed a) to take a laptop home and b) use a database at home and c) had the permission to access personal data, how can he get these permissions without proper encryption?
If you allow
a) somebody from the IT dep. should look at it
b) somebody (hopefully the same person) should look at it
c) somebody from IT and a lot more should have a look at it
After all he wasn't working in the local DVD club
Deus Ex, right, again just a fantastic intelligent story and perfect gameplay. But that's something one could always expect from Warren Spector.
He worked also on Wing Commander/Privateer which would be my No. 2
Well, yes SS2 was creepy, but SS1 was the first time you could play a creepy semi-first-person-intelligent-story-game. And Diego was really, really mean. And I loved to go into "cyberspace".
For those who played it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Shock, it is well known as the best computer game ever.
I am sorry, but if you start argueing with consciousness, than you could even allow to kill a baby which is about a half a year old. Consciousness does imply that you are aware of your self. Talk to psychologists, neurologists and philosopher, they all agree that it is dangerous to argue with consciousness because it develops after birth.
And even if you would asume that there is sth. like it before, it won't be there before a brain develops and this is certainly not the case before the neuroblast has formed. A cell or several cells for sure won't have consciousness.
Don't get me wrong, I have severe difficulties to judge in this topic, but arguing with consciousness is very dangerous, that's why so many people argue with the possibility of human life.
The point is, that an aggregate of cells and the extraction of cells can't be considered as killing, but if you do so, than you have to do this also in the aforementioned cases.
I guess some of you have a quite expicit picture in your mind, a little less developed baby, as somebody here even said baby killer. May be you should know that cloning an embryo to "produce" stem cells means, that you have a developing human, yes, but this developing human is a little sphere of cells. This aggregation of cells becomes a blastocyst and one part of it becomes the embryo. Befor this happens you want to take out these cells, as these cells are omnipotent stem cells, which means they can develop and differenciate into different tissues, hopefully and only once there a implanted there. In the future they may even develop into tissue ex vivo i.e. outside of your body, but thats far fetched.
If you say that this amount of cells are already a human being, than you have to monitor every female human, as natural failure after fertilization occurs every moment. Most women get pregnant and lose their "baby" in the first six weeks without even noticing.
Cloning human (tissue even) is certainly something one should discuss, but keep in mind that you put a very high value on one unborn human, while the same society doesn't have any problem in spending 100 times more on military (and using it) than others on medicine.
Furthermore all the implications this may have on society should be discussed; a longer life span, but less and less work for everybody (now a problem in europe and US, soon one in china and india), who will get the benefit, the one with money or everybody? In other words will we have rich 1000 year old and poor that won't reach the age of 80?
Certainly a lot to discuss, but you have to get some background knowledge, otherwise it is just "I have a strong feeling against it"...
On what do you run your OS? Is it a computer? Well sooner or later it is going to fail and you need to buy a new one (or parts of it). Ever heard about HD-TV-ready hardware, which has a build in protection against analog copying and allows output only to a certain digital connector, which can't be interrupted (too lazy to dig up the details).
What if future motherboards will have DRM already integrated and do need to have it integrated by law? And what if the american DRM legislation is enforced on your country by trade restrictions, WHO etc.?
What if legislation requires that internet-routers check for a little signature in packets, that shows you have a DRM-enabled system or not?
All the people paying for office are businesses - they can't afford their office to be down (through network problems or google problems).
And aside from this concern, they for sure can't affort to have business critical data stored on a server they have no control over.
Even as a private user I would like to keep my data and have a local backup. While gmail is nice, I won't use it for sth. important or mission critical.
It doesn't "drive" the hardware for ever and ever, it helps the system to communicate with that piece of hardware. Did you never saw a message that stated " you need driver version x.y.z for this to work"? Well put this a bit to the extreme and a driver will only work to a certain extend and than you have to get some "update".
Look at windows media payer or itunes, they are already installing features that directly interact with your hardware.
Or do you know if and how service pack 2 for XP changed the way the system communicate with the hardware?
Yet another reason to never upgrade....
Sure, tell this to the average user, who buys computers with preinstalled Vista, OSX, etc. and has "automatic update" activ, because of all these virii. Or you may need a new driver (previous one stopped working, was only temp)...but you can access the driver page only after you installed a certain DRM-patch...
I work in an institute with apple user computers ( servers are something with a good service, so no apple). We get a good deal, because of our user base size, but they are still able to ship us comps with US power adapters (try them in europe), again and again.
Tiger didn't run some of the software we are using, our problem... They ship all new iBooks, etc. with Tiger, whereas some of the two year old modells doesn't run Tiger, that's called support hell.
And while the Mac shops in U.S. may be good (I don't know) you barely see some here and occasionally you get the impression they are run by, well, apple fanboys...
Wasn't there this problem with these ipod batteries...
I can't remember were I read it, guess it was slashdot... but
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200501/clarke
did mentioned UAVs to conduct reconnaissance in the United States, and it also described how well it (and all coming patriot acts) protected America against, well, against whom?
Played IW-1 entirely, but didn't got that much into EoC (scripts...), but with this new conversion I might give it a try.
:-)
thanks for the hint
Yes, you're absolutely right. It was meant as serious as the prospect of entering via an antigravity device (or wannabe black hole) the ultimate hell and come back out of it...as it is described in "Event horizon"
hell, if you look at mankinds history, this things must have happened some thousands years ago...Nero, Caligula, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot and others were probably trained on that ship
Does anyone else get the impression that most people have no idea the potential for nanotech?
Yes, we all got that impression, feeling better now? Now, what is the POTENTIAL of nanotech, particular when you don't even define the field in which it should be used or applied, can you briefly decribe all potential applications and changes we will have in fields like computing, medicine, chemistry, physics, biotech, sociology and politcs, not to forget DRM...
Oh yes, and dogfights were you approached your opponent with full speed, launch some rockets and then while passing twist 180 and shoot in his back. Or a mision where you had to manoever into a relay transmitter and dock to it. And all the film scences... just some of the best games I ever experienced.
will it display personal advertisement, once I wear my soon obligatory RFID-tag or do I have to wait until I can enter the store only after they did an iris scan and checked my terrorism background?
But what's called "decoupled flight" in aerospace terminiology (vehicle is "pointed" in a direction other than the direction of travel), is actually very difficult to manage and control for an unskilled operator, it takes a very well-developed sense of 3 dimensional thought.
It has been realised for around 5 to 6 years now in the above mentioned games, but they never became popular. Guess it was to difficult to play, although a lot of fun
And a few years before that, the Nazi concentration camps were desroyed and the "workers" there punished.
Yes, but they have been brought to court and than they were punished. They haven't been killed by a mob, that thought it got the "right" to kill from god.
...since we're constantly hearing from Mac owners how wonderful OS X is, then why would they give a damn about this?
What else should they say? They said the same about OS9 and all this things before (calling it system would be a joke; anybody remember how to allocated ram to your application?), but never looked around.
Yes, OS X is fine and quite stable too, but I'm missing a good office, like OOO 2.0. Running openoffice under OS X isn't really nice (fonts,printers, network file access, etc) and Neooffice is too old.
And I don't want to use MS Office, thanks for the suggestion.
I've installed Kubuntu on the powerbook I'm using and it just works. To be honest, OS X works also :-)
I think everybody in science and particular the ones involved in game theory will tell you that playing (games) is one of the most fundamental part of the learning process.
So just because some people don't like the name "game" because of marketing issues doesn't change the fact that we humans like to play games.
So let's start playing:
Doctor game
marriage game
war game
"You will by my weapons, I support your campain financially" game
"I provide content, you enforce DRM" game
Game is just a nice name game