Does anyone know how good are the database tools?
I really don't use either office suite for anything at all, except that I'll be needing to create a simple database for a local seminar and I don't konw if I should go with access or should give oo.o a try.
Do you really belive that a company as pure-hearted, caring, good-willed and innocent such as Micro$oft would do those reports based on a conflict-of-interest???
I think if that were to ever happen that mr Bill Gates would interfere and fairly punish the ones responsible for such atrocities.
We used to have Solaris 7 on our Sparc lab at my university and I didn't think it was that good. Linux is much better for everyday use. Well, come to think of it, maybe the problem was the Sparc machines. Anyhow, I didn't have a great experience with Solaris, even tough I know people that really like it.
Then again, having a couple extra cds with another free* OS is never too much. Someday someone somewhere may need it...
This just after Google refused to bend over to M$ and Bill Ga(y)tes decided to open up his own news page (almost an exact copy).
M$ puts money under the table for SCO to attack Google and shutdown its news page and eventually the entire Google system.
Yeah, it seems like I'm gonna need that tin foil hat once again...
This will enable more domains and people from non english-speaking countries will be able to register their domains with their correct syntax.
One thing that kinda bugs me is that this will not be a full port to unicode (apparently it'll be hard to port it all), but a work-around. Kind of reminds the entire Y2K problem... "Why write like it's supposed to if we can make it shorter?" Then, in a decade everybody will be worried because the work-around no longer works and they'll have lots more to do in order to port it all to unicode.
I use those little plastic tubes that came with rolls of film for cameras to put case/board screws. It's pretty good because it doesn't take too much room and can hold quite a number of screws.
On the same principle I use the plastic covers that comes with cd spindles (the 50 ones) to put old memory, mobo and case face plates. Just don't forget to put the memory on anti-static paper beofre hand.
Old mobo cases are good to store manuals, driver disks/cds and old pci, agp and mother boards. Just put the manuals and disks/cds in one and the pc parts in another. Then you can put them piled up under the bed or on the top shelf of closet.
I'm still trying to find a solution for old hds, cdroms and power supply... Thei are all piled on the bookcase along with the books. Anyhow, I don't have that much stuff so this works out ok for me.
The questions were good, but I think that something is missing...
What about stable releases for fedora?? Since it's gonna be the "bleeding-edge" will it ever be a clear distinction between stable and development? Will the security bugs be worked out and patches made available or will people need to upgrade all the time?
I'm not a red hat or fedora user (long live slack!) but I've got some friends that barelly know their way around RHL. Putting something full of holes in their hands will only frustrate them. Well, I guess I'll have to talk them into something like Mandrake or Debian.
Maybe it's just me, but having many different competing projects is not bad. The whole point of being open-source is the freedom of choice. You have a good variety to choose from, at least most of the time. The successful ones are the projects that offer more features that the users want. They will start attracting more developers and make progress faster. Only then it will become a "pseudo-standard". And even then, competing projects can merge or change paths or even die. It's all part of evolution.
Brazil isn't a newbie in OSS and Linux. A state in the south of Brazil (Rio Grande do Sul) was the first one to start the migration for Linux and OSS. People related to the IT administration in the government have been saying about switching to Linux since the start of Lula's mandate.
Another point is that a law stating that all government departments use OSS and Linux does nothing to prevent freedom of choice. The government doesn't think that MS Windows suits their needs and wants to change to Linux. This law will only enforce all of the government to stick with a standard that they already chose. How good would it be if every single department used something different? Complete chaos....
In Brazil there are many schools, universities and hospitals that are public. This means that they belong to the goverment. It's not like in the US where thos things belongs to a group of people or investors. Imagine having to buy windows liscenses by the hundreds of thousands (if not millions) for $150 each?
The entire population can still use Windows if they want. Another aspect is that Brazil has a lot of developers and IT professionals. Using OSS will create more job opportunities for those people and will help pick up the economy. You guys have no idea how bad is the unemployment rate there...
Corporations actually bough RHEL because they could use RH9 on their desktops and workstations for free. Now that RH is abandoning the desktop do you really think those companies will continue using it? My guess is that they'll move to something else like SuSe or Mandrake. It may not happen soon, but in the long run. I don't think they'll pay for RHEL WS for all their workstations, it doesn't make sense specially if you have many. Those companies would probably have bought licenses and the works for many of their desktops, but not all of them.
The compatibility that RHEL and RHL provided was the key for their business and now that's over. Fedora will be buggy, being the "bleeding-edge" and buggy is not something corporations want. I'm pretty sure Fedora will never be as compatible to RHEL as RHL was even if it's a "stable" release. Specially having a borad community-based approach. What home-users want may not be what corporations are looking for...
What about the LGPL and GPL issues?
Anyone has any news on that?
Don't worry... you misspelled it right
Yeah, but only if you run it on emacs
Does anyone know how good are the database tools?
I really don't use either office suite for anything at all, except that I'll be needing to create a simple database for a local seminar and I don't konw if I should go with access or should give oo.o a try.
sitting around waiting to be empanelled
for a moment there i thought you said impaled
Oh, people... c'mon!
Do you really belive that a company as pure-hearted, caring, good-willed and innocent such as Micro$oft would do those reports based on a conflict-of-interest???
I think if that were to ever happen that mr Bill Gates would interfere and fairly punish the ones responsible for such atrocities.
do we like micro$oft now?
The site is soo slow now that a 40mb file is gonna take 1 hour and 47 minutes to dload...
Someone should have thought about making a mirror or a torrent file out of it
We used to have Solaris 7 on our Sparc lab at my university and I didn't think it was that good. Linux is much better for everyday use. Well, come to think of it, maybe the problem was the Sparc machines. Anyhow, I didn't have a great experience with Solaris, even tough I know people that really like it.
Then again, having a couple extra cds with another free* OS is never too much. Someday someone somewhere may need it...
*as in beer
This makes the moon rock the most expensive paper weight ever!
There was a post on the other Google news about this...
This just after Google refused to bend over to M$ and Bill Ga(y)tes decided to open up his own news page (almost an exact copy).
M$ puts money under the table for SCO to attack Google and shutdown its news page and eventually the entire Google system.
Yeah, it seems like I'm gonna need that tin foil hat once again...
This will enable more domains and people from non english-speaking countries will be able to register their domains with their correct syntax.
One thing that kinda bugs me is that this will not be a full port to unicode (apparently it'll be hard to port it all), but a work-around. Kind of reminds the entire Y2K problem... "Why write like it's supposed to if we can make it shorter?" Then, in a decade everybody will be worried because the work-around no longer works and they'll have lots more to do in order to port it all to unicode.
I'd expect more from M$...
At least 99.9%
I use those little plastic tubes that came with rolls of film for cameras to put case/board screws. It's pretty good because it doesn't take too much room and can hold quite a number of screws.
On the same principle I use the plastic covers that comes with cd spindles (the 50 ones) to put old memory, mobo and case face plates. Just don't forget to put the memory on anti-static paper beofre hand.
Old mobo cases are good to store manuals, driver disks/cds and old pci, agp and mother boards. Just put the manuals and disks/cds in one and the pc parts in another. Then you can put them piled up under the bed or on the top shelf of closet.
I'm still trying to find a solution for old hds, cdroms and power supply... Thei are all piled on the bookcase along with the books. Anyhow, I don't have that much stuff so this works out ok for me.
The questions were good, but I think that something is missing...
What about stable releases for fedora?? Since it's gonna be the "bleeding-edge" will it ever be a clear distinction between stable and development? Will the security bugs be worked out and patches made available or will people need to upgrade all the time?
I'm not a red hat or fedora user (long live slack!) but I've got some friends that barelly know their way around RHL. Putting something full of holes in their hands will only frustrate them. Well, I guess I'll have to talk them into something like Mandrake or Debian.
Yeah, I just noticed it myself...
24m Euros is actually close to U$28.5m
Welcome /. !
Please try the Google Cache.
I've never felt more welcome when /. a site...
not even 5 minutes after being posted and it's already /.ed
Mirrors anyone?
Maybe it's just me, but having many different competing projects is not bad. The whole point of being open-source is the freedom of choice. You have a good variety to choose from, at least most of the time. The successful ones are the projects that offer more features that the users want. They will start attracting more developers and make progress faster. Only then it will become a "pseudo-standard". And even then, competing projects can merge or change paths or even die. It's all part of evolution.
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that the Linux/IBM pill is not a supository
Brazil isn't a newbie in OSS and Linux. A state in the south of Brazil (Rio Grande do Sul) was the first one to start the migration for Linux and OSS. People related to the IT administration in the government have been saying about switching to Linux since the start of Lula's mandate.
Another point is that a law stating that all government departments use OSS and Linux does nothing to prevent freedom of choice. The government doesn't think that MS Windows suits their needs and wants to change to Linux. This law will only enforce all of the government to stick with a standard that they already chose. How good would it be if every single department used something different? Complete chaos....
In Brazil there are many schools, universities and hospitals that are public. This means that they belong to the goverment. It's not like in the US where thos things belongs to a group of people or investors. Imagine having to buy windows liscenses by the hundreds of thousands (if not millions) for $150 each?
The entire population can still use Windows if they want. Another aspect is that Brazil has a lot of developers and IT professionals. Using OSS will create more job opportunities for those people and will help pick up the economy. You guys have no idea how bad is the unemployment rate there...
And yes, I am brazilian.
way to void your warranty and shorten the drive life....
Corporations actually bough RHEL because they could use RH9 on their desktops and workstations for free. Now that RH is abandoning the desktop do you really think those companies will continue using it? My guess is that they'll move to something else like SuSe or Mandrake. It may not happen soon, but in the long run. I don't think they'll pay for RHEL WS for all their workstations, it doesn't make sense specially if you have many. Those companies would probably have bought licenses and the works for many of their desktops, but not all of them. The compatibility that RHEL and RHL provided was the key for their business and now that's over. Fedora will be buggy, being the "bleeding-edge" and buggy is not something corporations want. I'm pretty sure Fedora will never be as compatible to RHEL as RHL was even if it's a "stable" release. Specially having a borad community-based approach. What home-users want may not be what corporations are looking for...