That Opera guy makes a point, if the browser identifies itself as IE it's had to get accurate stats.
Still, I tried Opera and I find it's interface cluttered and messy. Firefox is much leaner feeling, and has a much better tabbed-browsing implementation, IMO.
If I had a choice between a PowerMac with G5 2.7 GHz or Pentium 4 3.6 GHz, which is faster?
I would guess they're both about the same -- but I don't really know -- and Apple wants Intel more for the Pent M processor for their PowerBooks rather than desktops.
Parents threatning to sacrifice their own children, mass murders and genocide, daughters getting their father drunk to have sex with him and get pregnant, mods demanding to have sex with strangers offered to rape a virgin daughter instead, etc.
Look bone-head, the topic is PORNOGRAPHY! Photos and movies of adults in graphic sexual acts! That's the ADULT (XXX) CONTENT we're talking about.
You're equating imagery in literature to XXX content. By your definition, everything from Shakespear to Batman comics falls into the category of "adult content" -- look the Joker killed someone, that's "adult"!
Utterly dishonest
That you JUMPED to the defense of porn, and that you LEAPT straight to the BIBLE as an example of equivalent "adult content" demonstrates your agenda to paint Christian's influence on their children with the same brush as the pornography industry.
People forget that, but there's a lot of stuff in the bible that is violent and sexual. Ban "adult content", and you ban that too.
Wow, the mere suggestion that someone wants to take precautions to keep porn away from young children is making you foam at the mouth in anger.
Sounds like you've got a serious porn problem, pal.
Equating hardcore porn with the Bible? It says a lot that this guy thinks a 10 years old seeing a woman tied up and having hardcore sex with 10 guys is perfectly appropriate -- but him being able to visit bibleinfo.org is dangeous.
How does one define 'porn' or adult content? Who decides what goes on a.xxx domain and what is fine on a.com?
Come on, you know porn when you see it. Don't be a dink.
They already have a system in place for this kind of stuff. Magazines deemed adult are wrapped in plastic bags and put on the top shelf. Videos deemed adult are in a section of the video store restricted to those of a certain age or older.
I'll probably get flammed to death for this, but I'm very sympathetic to groups that think 'net porn it too accessible and goes too far.
Sometimes I think kids are going to grow up completely messed us with the crazy stuff they can see on the web just by typing "sex" in google.
Is forcing ISPs to block that kind of content going to solve the problem? Probably not, but I feel for them.
Personally, I'd like to see a law that makes it illegal for adult context to appear on a URL unless is has a special extension, something like ".xxx". Then it'd be easy for concerned parents (and wives!) to configure the browser to block anything from that extension.
Catholic Canon Law states that homosexuality is not chosen by the individual, the causes of it are unknown, and a man cannot be condemned for being something that is not of his choosing
Err... where are you getting this?? Can you provide a reference please?
Handling input from an HTML form and storing it to a database doesn't really need OO, does it?
I guess the answer is "it depends".;-)
If I'm doing anything half-ways complex in web-to-db, yes I do want OO. I'll choose OO DB access in the form of Hibernate, JDBC, JBoss and EJBs and XDoclet. And I'll build my UI with an MVC-based JSP/Servlet framework, usually home-grown, but maybe using JavaServer Faces or Struts.
In my opinion, this kind of OO sophistication makes building even half-ways complex projects better.
What's so good about Saving Private Ryan? The story is lame and the acting is barely okay-ish.
I was going to let this question slide as rhetorical... but I simple can't.
Saving Private Ryan is "so good" because... wait for it... YOU ARE RYAN! The Allied fighting men of WWII laid down their lives for you. The movie does more, more effectively than any other war picture ever to show you what these men really went through to protect the innocent, the defenseless and your freedom.
When Captain Miller breathes his last words to Ryan he's talking to YOU -- do you deserve all those mens' sacrifices? If not, he says, "Earn it."
The movie is crafted by the master film-maker of our age, and is at once poetic, exhilarating, and heart-breaking.
Saving Private Ryan is also one of the best composed movies of all time, brilliantly structured and is a clinic in cinematic pacing.
It's the kind of movie that deserves to be placed on the short-lists of the best of all time, it deserves the highest awards and is to be treasured. In short, it DESERVES FOUR STARS.
Says you. I'd have given [SITH] four stars. But that's IMHO. That doesn't mean I think it's wrong that you would give it two stars, but neither opinion is hardly objective.
On the contrary, I'm being extreme objective. I'm not letting my fondness for the Star Wars phenomenon cloud my vision about what is great cinema. You're like Homer Simpson wanting to give Best Of Show to "Man Getting Hit In The Groin With A Football" because you thought it was neat.
Giving SITH four stars, trying to put it in the same stratosphere as RYAN is... laughable.
4 stars is reserved for the best of the best movies in the history of cinema; Schindler's List, Saving Private Ryan, Raiders of the Lost Ark, and (I'd say) even the original Star Wars.
3 stars is for an all around solid movie. An above average movie that is well worth your time.
2 stars is for something that's "ok" or average. Not great, but has some elements that make it good enough as to be worth seeing.
1 star is a failure.
Half-stars, in my mind, are cop-out ratings. Stick to solid numbers.
For SITH to score 3.5 stars is completely unwarrented. It's a 2 star picture at best -- which is not that bad.
The user as dumb as you make out would not know that Excell was for spreadsheets and would find it only by clicking randomly. "Open spreadsheet" is a lot better.
To a computer-centric user like you or me, "open spreadsheet" may actually be more logical and functional. But we're not talking about you or me. We're talking about the millions of people
who use MS Office, and nothing but, all day.
Every day for the past 5 years they open their spreadsheet by clicking the "green x" icon.
"Green X" means spreadsheet.
You sell people short.
Don't try to teach people new things they don't care about.
"Green X" means speadsheet. For these users that's the end of usability story. Don't fight it.
Are you in marketing?
No, I'm a software developer focused on human-computer interaction. But I do feel the pain of marketing guys who have to argue with engineers who all think they know "a better way" than what the Microsoft masses have already learned.
AFTER you get millions of users and a significant market share, THEN you can try an teach them new and better interfaces. Right now, OpenOffice needs switchers.
Dude, you're making recommendations based solely on your own preference and your influence from Microsoft Office. That's bad. Really bad. Sorry but you need badly to brush up on your usability.
No, you're wrong.
I'm not making recommendations based on MY preferences, I'm making recommendations on the PRE-CONDITIONING of users familiar with MS Office. In MS Office, clicking the "Green X" opens the spreadsheet (Excel), the "Blue W" opens the word processor (Word) -- every long term MS Office user knows that and does it every day.
Don't give them an opportunity to get confused, emulate what MS Office does, and your potential switcher will ALREADY KNOW how to use your product, no teaching necessary.
This is what Microsoft did to win their application battles with WordPerfect and Lotus123. They copied all their function key codes, menu items, everything. Users easily switched to Microsoft with no retraining required.
Sorry but you need badly to brush up on your usability.
You need to learn that usability doesn't always mean coming up with a new "better" way of doing things; most of the time usability is accomplished by giving the user something that works in a way they are already accustomed to.
'scuse me... I can see why a word processing app and its documents should have a W icon, but why on earth should a spreadsheet program and its documents have an X icon???
Simple. Because MS Excel has a "green X". A "green X" means spreadsheet -- just ask the 100 million "dumb users" who click the "green X" everyday.
I never downloaded Open Office before, so I just tried it.
I'm a GUI/Usability guy, so this is my professional ability to play "dumb user" speaking:
The ZIP I downloaded had a cryptic name "OO_...something..." with lots of letters and numbers. The zip took a long time to download, so when I later saw this file on my desktop I didn't know what it was. This was confusing, it should say something "OpenOffice.zip" or better yet "OpenOffice.EXE".
I opened the zip (would "dumb user" even have WinZip on their system, or know how to use it?) -- the zip contained dozens of weirdly named files, and at the very bottom of the list I found a setup.exe. I ran the setup exe, and from this point on the installation process was clean and simple.
The file I download should have been as small an EXE as possible -- perhaps a small simple app that downloads the big file for you in a friendly way.
Luring new users over from the dark (MS) side is like trying to get a tiny squirrel to take a peanut from your hand. Any weird gestures and they'll bolt. I'm afraid the big download, weirdly named zip, and the hunt for the setup.exe would likley have caused the timid squirrel to run away.
Then I went to launch the app, and the icons in the OpenOffice folder on the Start menu confused me. I could not find an icon with a blue W representing the word processor, so after a moment of confusion I tried clicking on "Open Document" which let me browse to my *.doc -- whew it worked, but "dumb user" wasn't sure he was doing the right thing, and almost didn't bother to try.
The doc file opened easily, the Word Processor is pretty and obviously very mature and full-functioned. I could read and print (!) my doc easily with no trouble at all. Very nice.
The BIG POINT HERE is Sun needs to do their best to improve the initial download/install experience to ensure switchers don't get confused. Also, emulate everything MS does so MS Office users do not have to stray from their pre-conditioned clicking behavious; you will loose new users at the first moment of confusion. A "Blue W " icon needs to represent the Word Processor, a "Green X" icon for the Spreadsheet.
Hope this helps, looks like a good product, really.
Sam
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I think this is an awesome idea, and I'd like to try one.
I wonder if I can accomplish the same effect by blocking my view of the keyboard; some kind of cardboard shelf suspended between my monitor and keyboard so I can't see the keys. Hmm... I *will* try this.
A friend of mine works at the Sony store and he told me about this interesting Sony Store policy. If any customer comes back with any complaint about a handycam battery within the camera's warrenty period, the customer is given a new battery right off the shelf, no questions asked.
The cool thing is, the battery that comes with most cameras holds a 60 min charge, but the ones they stock in store are 120 mins.
All you have to do is go in with your original battery and say, "this battery isn't holding a full charge". Bingo, free new better battery.
For years Microsoft has made a practice of announcing their products long before they will ever be available. The intention is to pre-empt their competitors' product announcements so potential buyers will reconsider their buying decision.
And the media has always bought into it; this has been going on since the early days of Windows versus OS/2, and is still happening now with Longhorn versus Tiger.
It's now obvious that the only reason Microsoft announced XBox 360 last week (an alleged "six months" before actual release) was to pre-empt this announcement by Sony.
$20 says the PS3 will be on the shelves months before XBox 360 see the light of Circuit City.
Wow -- it's not much more than an ugly "beige box".
This design does not exude coolness. I would've thought it'd have a much cooler appearance -- this physical box alone will not be enough to entice buyers. Better be a good gaming platform.
Slashdot Mirror
Man, Looks like the dot-com boom is starting all over again.
I've got to get off my ass and write some piece of crap spy-ware so I can sell it for $100 million in 12 months.
Sam
Still, I tried Opera and I find it's interface cluttered and messy. Firefox is much leaner feeling, and has a much better tabbed-browsing implementation, IMO.
Sam
If I had a choice between a PowerMac with G5 2.7 GHz or Pentium 4 3.6 GHz, which is faster?
I would guess they're both about the same -- but I don't really know -- and Apple wants Intel more for the Pent M processor for their PowerBooks rather than desktops.
Sam
Steve Jobs would never apply for job and anyone else's company. He'd start a company himself.
Sam
> pornography [...] Greek pornographos, adjective, writing about prostitutes
Ah, I see. You just want to argue semantics.
I understand now, you are a ... [talking slowing] LOOOOOSER. I got it.
Sam
Look bone-head, the topic is PORNOGRAPHY! Photos and movies of adults in graphic sexual acts! That's the ADULT (XXX) CONTENT we're talking about.
You're equating imagery in literature to XXX content. By your definition, everything from Shakespear to Batman comics falls into the category of "adult content" -- look the Joker killed someone, that's "adult"!
Utterly dishonest
That you JUMPED to the defense of porn, and that you LEAPT straight to the BIBLE as an example of equivalent "adult content" demonstrates your agenda to paint Christian's influence on their children with the same brush as the pornography industry.
Now who's being dishonest?? Bone-head.
Sam
Re-read your own post, you're the one who made the leap from "adult content" to the Bible. Talk about strawman arguments.
Wow, the mere suggestion that someone wants to take precautions to keep porn away from young children is making you foam at the mouth in anger.
Sounds like you've got a serious porn problem, pal.
Equating hardcore porn with the Bible? It says a lot that this guy thinks a 10 years old seeing a woman tied up and having hardcore sex with 10 guys is perfectly appropriate -- but him being able to visit bibleinfo.org is dangeous.
Your kind freaks me out.
Sam
Come on, you know porn when you see it. Don't be a dink.
They already have a system in place for this kind of stuff. Magazines deemed adult are wrapped in plastic bags and put on the top shelf. Videos deemed adult are in a section of the video store restricted to those of a certain age or older.
Use the same system.
Sam
Sometimes I think kids are going to grow up completely messed us with the crazy stuff they can see on the web just by typing "sex" in google.
Is forcing ISPs to block that kind of content going to solve the problem? Probably not, but I feel for them.
Personally, I'd like to see a law that makes it illegal for adult context to appear on a URL unless is has a special extension, something like ".xxx". Then it'd be easy for concerned parents (and wives!) to configure the browser to block anything from that extension.
Sam
Err ... where are you getting this?? Can you provide a reference please?
Sam
I guess the answer is "it depends". ;-)
If I'm doing anything half-ways complex in web-to-db, yes I do want OO. I'll choose OO DB access in the form of Hibernate, JDBC, JBoss and EJBs and XDoclet. And I'll build my UI with an MVC-based JSP/Servlet framework, usually home-grown, but maybe using JavaServer Faces or Struts.
In my opinion, this kind of OO sophistication makes building even half-ways complex projects better.
Sam
I tried PHP, but I didn't feel it gave me the rigid OO structure and sophisticated APIs I get from Java, JSPs & Servlets.
Not trolling, just saying I'm surprised that Java and Servlet hosting isn't as popular as PHP. I'm obviously missing some key point.
Sam
Sam
I was going to let this question slide as rhetorical ... but I simple can't.
Saving Private Ryan is "so good" because ... wait for it ... YOU ARE RYAN! The Allied fighting men of WWII laid down their lives for you. The movie does more, more effectively than any other war picture ever to show you what these men really went through to protect the innocent, the defenseless and your freedom.
When Captain Miller breathes his last words to Ryan he's talking to YOU -- do you deserve all those mens' sacrifices? If not, he says, "Earn it."
The movie is crafted by the master film-maker of our age, and is at once poetic, exhilarating, and heart-breaking.
Saving Private Ryan is also one of the best composed movies of all time, brilliantly structured and is a clinic in cinematic pacing.
It's the kind of movie that deserves to be placed on the short-lists of the best of all time, it deserves the highest awards and is to be treasured. In short, it DESERVES FOUR STARS.
Says you. I'd have given [SITH] four stars. But that's IMHO. That doesn't mean I think it's wrong that you would give it two stars, but neither opinion is hardly objective.
On the contrary, I'm being extreme objective. I'm not letting my fondness for the Star Wars phenomenon cloud my vision about what is great cinema. You're like Homer Simpson wanting to give Best Of Show to "Man Getting Hit In The Groin With A Football" because you thought it was neat.
Giving SITH four stars, trying to put it in the same stratosphere as RYAN is ... laughable.
Sam
3 stars is for an all around solid movie. An above average movie that is well worth your time.
2 stars is for something that's "ok" or average. Not great, but has some elements that make it good enough as to be worth seeing.
1 star is a failure.
Half-stars, in my mind, are cop-out ratings. Stick to solid numbers.
For SITH to score 3.5 stars is completely unwarrented. It's a 2 star picture at best -- which is not that bad.
Sam
To a computer-centric user like you or me, "open spreadsheet" may actually be more logical and functional. But we're not talking about you or me. We're talking about the millions of people who use MS Office, and nothing but, all day.
Every day for the past 5 years they open their spreadsheet by clicking the "green x" icon.
"Green X" means spreadsheet.
You sell people short.
Don't try to teach people new things they don't care about.
"Green X" means speadsheet. For these users that's the end of usability story. Don't fight it.
Are you in marketing?
No, I'm a software developer focused on human-computer interaction. But I do feel the pain of marketing guys who have to argue with engineers who all think they know "a better way" than what the Microsoft masses have already learned.
AFTER you get millions of users and a significant market share, THEN you can try an teach them new and better interfaces. Right now, OpenOffice needs switchers.
Sam
No, you're wrong.
I'm not making recommendations based on MY preferences, I'm making recommendations on the PRE-CONDITIONING of users familiar with MS Office. In MS Office, clicking the "Green X" opens the spreadsheet (Excel), the "Blue W" opens the word processor (Word) -- every long term MS Office user knows that and does it every day.
Don't give them an opportunity to get confused, emulate what MS Office does, and your potential switcher will ALREADY KNOW how to use your product, no teaching necessary.
This is what Microsoft did to win their application battles with WordPerfect and Lotus123. They copied all their function key codes, menu items, everything. Users easily switched to Microsoft with no retraining required.
Sorry but you need badly to brush up on your usability.
You need to learn that usability doesn't always mean coming up with a new "better" way of doing things; most of the time usability is accomplished by giving the user something that works in a way they are already accustomed to.
Sam
Simple. Because MS Excel has a "green X". A "green X" means spreadsheet -- just ask the 100 million "dumb users" who click the "green X" everyday.
Sam
I'm a GUI/Usability guy, so this is my professional ability to play "dumb user" speaking:
The ZIP I downloaded had a cryptic name "OO_...something..." with lots of letters and numbers. The zip took a long time to download, so when I later saw this file on my desktop I didn't know what it was. This was confusing, it should say something "OpenOffice.zip" or better yet "OpenOffice.EXE".
I opened the zip (would "dumb user" even have WinZip on their system, or know how to use it?) -- the zip contained dozens of weirdly named files, and at the very bottom of the list I found a setup.exe. I ran the setup exe, and from this point on the installation process was clean and simple.
The file I download should have been as small an EXE as possible -- perhaps a small simple app that downloads the big file for you in a friendly way.
Luring new users over from the dark (MS) side is like trying to get a tiny squirrel to take a peanut from your hand. Any weird gestures and they'll bolt. I'm afraid the big download, weirdly named zip, and the hunt for the setup.exe would likley have caused the timid squirrel to run away.
Then I went to launch the app, and the icons in the OpenOffice folder on the Start menu confused me. I could not find an icon with a blue W representing the word processor, so after a moment of confusion I tried clicking on "Open Document" which let me browse to my *.doc -- whew it worked, but "dumb user" wasn't sure he was doing the right thing, and almost didn't bother to try.
The doc file opened easily, the Word Processor is pretty and obviously very mature and full-functioned. I could read and print (!) my doc easily with no trouble at all. Very nice.
The BIG POINT HERE is Sun needs to do their best to improve the initial download/install experience to ensure switchers don't get confused. Also, emulate everything MS does so MS Office users do not have to stray from their pre-conditioned clicking behavious; you will loose new users at the first moment of confusion. A "Blue W " icon needs to represent the Word Processor, a "Green X" icon for the Spreadsheet.
Hope this helps, looks like a good product, really.
Sam
I wonder if I can accomplish the same effect by blocking my view of the keyboard; some kind of cardboard shelf suspended between my monitor and keyboard so I can't see the keys. Hmm ... I *will* try this.
Sam
The cool thing is, the battery that comes with most cameras holds a 60 min charge, but the ones they stock in store are 120 mins.
All you have to do is go in with your original battery and say, "this battery isn't holding a full charge". Bingo, free new better battery.
Sam
And the media has always bought into it; this has been going on since the early days of Windows versus OS/2, and is still happening now with Longhorn versus Tiger.
It's now obvious that the only reason Microsoft announced XBox 360 last week (an alleged "six months" before actual release) was to pre-empt this announcement by Sony.
$20 says the PS3 will be on the shelves months before XBox 360 see the light of Circuit City.
Sam
This design does not exude coolness. I would've thought it'd have a much cooler appearance -- this physical box alone will not be enough to entice buyers. Better be a good gaming platform.
Sam
Eps 3, 4, 5
The rest were stinkers.
Sam