This has happened many times before.
irc.blackened.com went down for similar reasons.
It was the first IRC server to break 5,000 clients among other firsts.
At one point, the packeting got so bad the entire state of Arizona's bandwidth was effected (or something to that effect.)
For a good resource on EFNet history, I recommend
the EFnet history page at the-project.
The issue at hand is not running an IRC server for the sake of running an IRC server, it is running an IRC server for EFNet. And irc.colorado.edu does not have the resources to keep up with that, thus it is shutting its ports.
Oh, sure! When Mozilla hits 100,000 bugs everyone celebrates, but when Microsoft Windows hits 100,000 bugs, no one cares. Er, wait, they did celebrate--wasn't that the release of Windows 98?
I wonder what HP will do with the iPaq, as they have the rival Jornada.
Integration between the two seems unlikely, so either elimination or discontinuation are plausible. That is bad news for iPaq, but good news for the rest in the PDA market (Handspring, Palm), as it is one less competitor to watch after.
Remember DivX? (not DivX;-)) I recall that they had quite a few prefabricated fan sites. And what did it do for them? Obviously not enough to win over public and investor support of their product.
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I remember for a short while, when AltaVista was a great search engine, not a portal, they had such a feature. If I remember correctly, it was nicely integrated as a part of the standard search engine, like the language feature now is. It did not archive binaries, but it was still immensely useful.
Such a feature does not seem too far for a search engine, as AltaVista showed.
If American schoolchildren were provided the same kind of bandwidth college students are, just imagine the kind of creative technological outpouring they might be capable of,
"Creative technological outpouring" must be a euphemism for "new ways to mass-pirate mp3s".
> but "one-click" anything seems too silly for
> consideration, doesn't it
Hrm, I tend to disagree. I would not mind if Microsoft patented "one-click" file/folder/etc. opening. That, being the only new feature Windows 98 offered, annoys me more than any other of Microsoft's "innovations".
They might as well just assume you want to open the file the mouse is over, and open it for you.
Better yet, they could just keep all folders,
files, etc. open at all times, since people are too stupid to grasp the concept of "clicking", making Windows even more "user-friendly".
So does this mean I will not be able to be monopolized by AOL? How disappointing. And I was looking forward to paying hourly rates for bottom of the barrel internet service!
Humorously enough, all passwords are stored in plaintext, while all "FIRST POSTS", and "HEMOS SUX" messages are stored using MD5.
However, there is hope as I hear the password insecurity will be fixed in the future, somewhere in SlashCode 3, where all passwords will be forwarded in Morse Code to BUGTRAQ for security.
When I first saw http://www.freevibe.com/, I had a good laugh. But this trend in government-aided sites is rather sickening, undermining the governmental system this country was founded on.
It seems more and more the government is emphasizing socialistic programs. It is humorous, as socialism (more specifically, communism) was fought ruthlessly by the government.
I think Fidel Castro will have the last laugh-- as America slowly turns into an authoritarian state, despite having the label "democracy".
How do you stop this? Educate yourself and the ignorant. Read Machiavelli, Hegel (Marx was his student, you know), Locke, Rousseau, etc.-- learn what a government is truely about, not what cloned politicians believe it is.
I have been on EFNet for about five years. I have seen it much worse. And EFNet has always survived.
A few years back, the DoSing was much worse. I remember when netsplits were a daily occurence.
Up until recently, EFNet has been pretty good. Granted, a few servers have had their share of problems, but it has been fairly good.
A couple of servers delinking because of network problems DOES NOT mean the end of EFNet. There are about 50,000 people on EFNet, over 36 servers. I do not consider that "dead".
I am sure as long as there is one server willing to stay open for clients, there will always be an EFNet.
The idea of hiring a company to generate web statistics to test for commercial viability seems impractical.
If a company truely wanted to, they could easily obtain numerous IPs to forge the logs ahead. And think about a script kiddie exploiting java, perl, or whatever-- that would certainly make a website's statistics look better. The list goes on of ways to increase a website's usage.
I think the only way to get this done fairly is to post a raw log, and let the investors (or whoever the target is) decide for themselves. Apache logfiles are fairly straightforward, and require little to no effort on deciding what is an actual hit and what is not. Of course, this would require honesty on part of the company, which seems to be the real issue.
I believe it is called "suspense of disbelief."
This has happened many times before.
irc.blackened.com went down for similar reasons.
It was the first IRC server to break 5,000 clients among other firsts.
At one point, the packeting got so bad the entire state of Arizona's bandwidth was effected (or something to that effect.)
For a good resource on EFNet history, I recommend
the EFnet history page at the-project.
The issue at hand is not running an IRC server for the sake of running an IRC server, it is running an IRC server for EFNet. And irc.colorado.edu does not have the resources to keep up with that, thus it is shutting its ports.
Do we really need to post a story everytime some guy plays Halo naked in front of his television?
I'd like to see beowulf on a cluster of these!
Was anyone else disappointed in finding out this was not a hoverboard?
I know those words, but that sign makes no sense.
Oh, sure! When Mozilla hits 100,000 bugs everyone celebrates, but when Microsoft Windows hits 100,000 bugs, no one cares. Er, wait, they did celebrate--wasn't that the release of Windows 98?
I wonder what HP will do with the iPaq, as they have the rival Jornada.
Integration between the two seems unlikely, so either elimination or discontinuation are plausible. That is bad news for iPaq, but good news for the rest in the PDA market (Handspring, Palm), as it is one less competitor to watch after.
This sounds like a great idea!
I hear the MPAA has a great encryption scheme. Er, wait, maybe not.
Oh wait, the RIAA has an even better encryption scheme! Err..
I think ROT13 would be their best bet.
Didn't this become the norm years ago when they released "Yo! Noid"?
I do not think fan sites really work.
;-)) I recall that they had quite a few prefabricated fan sites. And what did it do for them? Obviously not enough to win over public and investor support of their product.
Remember DivX? (not DivX
You forgot:
10. Semprini
I remember for a short while, when AltaVista was a great search engine, not a portal, they had such a feature. If I remember correctly, it was nicely integrated as a part of the standard search engine, like the language feature now is. It did not archive binaries, but it was still immensely useful.
Such a feature does not seem too far for a search engine, as AltaVista showed.
If American schoolchildren were provided the same kind of bandwidth college students are, just imagine the kind of creative technological outpouring they might be capable of,
"Creative technological outpouring" must be a euphemism for "new ways to mass-pirate mp3s".
> but "one-click" anything seems too silly for
> consideration, doesn't it
Hrm, I tend to disagree. I would not mind if Microsoft patented "one-click" file/folder/etc. opening. That, being the only new feature Windows 98 offered, annoys me more than any other of Microsoft's "innovations".
They might as well just assume you want to open the file the mouse is over, and open it for you.
Better yet, they could just keep all folders,
files, etc. open at all times, since people are too stupid to grasp the concept of "clicking", making Windows even more "user-friendly".
austin
So does this mean I will not be able to be monopolized by AOL? How disappointing. And I was looking forward to paying hourly rates for bottom of the barrel internet service!
Back when I was a kid, corporations pushed us around until the cows came home. Western Union pushed me on 3 non-consecutive occasions.
Austin
Now only if someone could think of a humorous way to apply this to a "DON'T PANIC!" button.
Austin
Humorously enough, all passwords are stored in plaintext, while all "FIRST POSTS", and "HEMOS SUX" messages are stored using MD5.
However, there is hope as I hear the password insecurity will be fixed in the future, somewhere in SlashCode 3, where all passwords will be forwarded in Morse Code to BUGTRAQ for security.
Austin
When I first saw http://www.freevibe.com/, I had a good laugh. But this trend in government-aided sites is rather sickening, undermining the governmental system this country was founded on.
It seems more and more the government is emphasizing socialistic programs. It is humorous, as socialism (more specifically, communism) was fought ruthlessly by the government.
I think Fidel Castro will have the last laugh-- as America slowly turns into an authoritarian state, despite having the label "democracy".
How do you stop this? Educate yourself and the ignorant. Read Machiavelli, Hegel (Marx was his student, you know), Locke, Rousseau, etc.-- learn what a government is truely about, not what cloned politicians believe it is.
Just a thought or two...
The DoSing has had its ups and downs for years. It comes, and it goes.
It is like bad weather-- you just have to ride it out. Also like bad weather, people overreact, and run around claiming that the apocalypse is coming.
Does the state of Florida disband everytime there is a tornado warning? I sure hope not.
I have been on EFNet for about five years. I have seen it much worse. And EFNet has always survived.
A few years back, the DoSing was much worse. I remember when netsplits were a daily occurence.
Up until recently, EFNet has been pretty good. Granted, a few servers have had their share of problems, but it has been fairly good.
A couple of servers delinking because of network problems DOES NOT mean the end of EFNet. There are about 50,000 people on EFNet, over 36 servers. I do not consider that "dead".
I am sure as long as there is one server willing to stay open for clients, there will always be an EFNet.
If there is IRC software for the PalmPilot, I am all for the idea of having a PDA/Cell Phone.
The idea of hiring a company to generate web statistics to test for commercial viability seems impractical.
If a company truely wanted to, they could easily obtain numerous IPs to forge the logs ahead. And think about a script kiddie exploiting java, perl, or whatever-- that would certainly make a website's statistics look better. The list goes on of ways to increase a website's usage.
I think the only way to get this done fairly is to post a raw log, and let the investors (or whoever the target is) decide for themselves. Apache logfiles are fairly straightforward, and require little to no effort on deciding what is an actual hit and what is not. Of course, this would require honesty on part of the company, which seems to be the real issue.