From my own experience, even if you catch a teacher flunking students intentionally you still can't get them fired.
So unions protect teachers from overzealous parents who would rather have a teacher fired than face the fact that their kid may have failed a class? Hmmmmm, maybe there is a reason those guys need a union to back them up.
I love the "if you don't like it, don't come here" attitude of that place. It's like the soup nazi of Brookline. I just wish they deserved it a little more, I mean, their pistrami isn't that great.
The only people who "enjoy" killing are the ones who've tricked themselves into thinking they enjoy in, in order to carry out whatever disgustingly horrible tasks they're given. Either that, or their sick and derranged.
Practically speaking though, if you're of limited means. Getting arrested does two things. 1. Depending upon your financial state and the state you are arrested in, you could have access to a free attorney who will take your case through the court system where you will get proper oversight of the officer's actions. 2. It opens the city up to a bit of liability if it is found that the officer acted unreasonabley so it would be easier to obtain counsel when there is a possibility of a contingency fee from a settlement.
If you're rich or just especially miffed, maybe money's not an issue in which case retaining legal counsel without an arrest would also be an option.
I somewhat agree with complying and then taking it up with the police department/city hall/DA later. But what do you do when you complain about an officer making threats to arrest photographers and the chief tells you he's right and you better comply or you will be arrested? Without an actual arrest taking place, there aren't very effective ways of escalating the issue to the people who need to review it.
What are you going to sue for though? An officer asked you to do something (stop taking photos, delete photos) And you voluntarily did. You had the right to refuse, but you chose to comply. Without the officer using physical force or actually placing you under arrest it seems like it would be nearly impossible for you to argue that your rights were infringed upon since you were simply voluntarily complying with a request. That's not infringing on your rights, it's just someone asking you to do something.
Arguing with a cop is ALWAYS a bad idea.
Arguing yes, but asserting your rights, absolutely not. Getting arrested isn't the end of the world.
Normally I agree with the advice of, "Just do what your told, forget it, move along, keep your head down, it's not worth it."
Normally that's good advice if you're busy, the issue is particularly petty or you're particularly vulnerable in some way like you're on probation or you're far from home. The problem is that if everybody follows the advice, and nobody is willing to take the risk of standing up for himself, or someone else. And nobody ever sticks his neck out, then your abuse will multiply rather than simply go away.
Yeah, you might be far from home, just waiting for a train to get you out of there. In that case, shutting up and being cowardly may be advisable. But if you're not, if you're home and there are people you know who can post bail, and showing up to court a half-dozen times won't involve an inter-state trip, I'd say it's time to stand up for yourself. Nobody else will. Too many people are heeding the advice to, "shutup and move along, let someone with a spine correct police abuse, you don't want to deal with that!"
People can only abuse you to the extent you allow them to.
And when you see someone get himself arrested over something you think is silly. Instead of calling him a fool and telling him not to forget the KY, you should applaud him for standing up for his rights because ultimately he's also standing up for yours.
But the constitution as it stands, does not allow the authorities to compel a suspect to produce the files.
I'm not sure this is right. The state can compel you to provide physical evidence, just not testimonial evidence. Physical evidence is not protected by the 5th amendment. For example, you can be compelled to provide finger prints, body measurements, DNA and blood samples. The court forcing you to provide those is not a violation of your fifth amendment rights. Additionally, if you have paper files or a bloody knife in your house and the state requests the items with "reasonable particularity" then the production of those items is not protected by the 5th amendment. In other words, the state can't demand that you hand over all of your files or every knife in your house. But they can demand you hand over a particular file or knife that they know to exist. So if they know certain files reside on your encrypted drive, demanding you give access to the drive would not be a 5th amendment violation, unless it is ruled that providing the password is testimony. But if the request is simply a fishing expedition looking for incriminating evidence, you would have a 5th amendment right to refuse, regardless if providing a password is testimony or not.
And like all techniques meant to momentarily weaken your resolve rather than actually hurt you, no I don't consider it torture.
So by that standard you'd be willing to watch your son's testicles get crushed since it only weakens your resolve and doesn't actually hurt you. Good to know you're ok with things that only weaken your resolve in case we ever need some info from you.
The problem is that the practical effect of this falls disproportionately on the poor
We can mitigate this with tiered pricing. e.g. Your first X kw/hrs are subsidized below market price. Anything over X is taxed in order to pay the subsidy. Rich people with big houses who pollute more end up subsidizing the frugal energy users who are disciplined enough to keep their energy use down. PSNH already does this at my parent's place in NH.
I know, those losers who saved $3,000 over the past 3 years! What are they gonna do! It's not like they can just call at any time and have their cable or satellite hooked back up!
I know! Like these bozos trying to sell this pedal-bike for $4,600 and it doesn't even have a motor like the $4,000 Honda Rebel motorcycle!!! What are they thinking? That people have varied needs and interests? Pfft! Good luck! I predict Apple is bankrupt by year-end.
There's this great feature called judgment. You read the headline, maybe scan the summary, and in about 2 and half seconds you can tell what type of post it is. Then, instead of following links and making a whiny post, you scroll down and read the next post.
Slashdot Mirror
From my own experience, even if you catch a teacher flunking students intentionally you still can't get them fired.
So unions protect teachers from overzealous parents who would rather have a teacher fired than face the fact that their kid may have failed a class? Hmmmmm, maybe there is a reason those guys need a union to back them up.
Worth it.
I love the "if you don't like it, don't come here" attitude of that place. It's like the soup nazi of Brookline. I just wish they deserved it a little more, I mean, their pistrami isn't that great.
The only people who "enjoy" killing are the ones who've tricked themselves into thinking they enjoy in, in order to carry out whatever disgustingly horrible tasks they're given. Either that, or their sick and derranged.
What a nice fantasy that is.
for example Columbus. Since he had no internet access, he could not just look up his coordinates in Google Earth
He had it. Google had just distributed a beta release.
Who needs $ when you have math?
...and an elderly mother with a pension.
Practically speaking though, if you're of limited means. Getting arrested does two things. 1. Depending upon your financial state and the state you are arrested in, you could have access to a free attorney who will take your case through the court system where you will get proper oversight of the officer's actions. 2. It opens the city up to a bit of liability if it is found that the officer acted unreasonabley so it would be easier to obtain counsel when there is a possibility of a contingency fee from a settlement.
If you're rich or just especially miffed, maybe money's not an issue in which case retaining legal counsel without an arrest would also be an option.
I somewhat agree with complying and then taking it up with the police department/city hall/DA later. But what do you do when you complain about an officer making threats to arrest photographers and the chief tells you he's right and you better comply or you will be arrested? Without an actual arrest taking place, there aren't very effective ways of escalating the issue to the people who need to review it.
What are you going to sue for though? An officer asked you to do something (stop taking photos, delete photos) And you voluntarily did. You had the right to refuse, but you chose to comply. Without the officer using physical force or actually placing you under arrest it seems like it would be nearly impossible for you to argue that your rights were infringed upon since you were simply voluntarily complying with a request. That's not infringing on your rights, it's just someone asking you to do something.
Arguing with a cop is ALWAYS a bad idea.
Arguing yes, but asserting your rights, absolutely not. Getting arrested isn't the end of the world.
But making a father watch while his son was water-boarded would be ok?
Normally I agree with the advice of, "Just do what your told, forget it, move along, keep your head down, it's not worth it."
Normally that's good advice if you're busy, the issue is particularly petty or you're particularly vulnerable in some way like you're on probation or you're far from home. The problem is that if everybody follows the advice, and nobody is willing to take the risk of standing up for himself, or someone else. And nobody ever sticks his neck out, then your abuse will multiply rather than simply go away.
Yeah, you might be far from home, just waiting for a train to get you out of there. In that case, shutting up and being cowardly may be advisable. But if you're not, if you're home and there are people you know who can post bail, and showing up to court a half-dozen times won't involve an inter-state trip, I'd say it's time to stand up for yourself. Nobody else will. Too many people are heeding the advice to, "shutup and move along, let someone with a spine correct police abuse, you don't want to deal with that!"
People can only abuse you to the extent you allow them to.
And when you see someone get himself arrested over something you think is silly. Instead of calling him a fool and telling him not to forget the KY, you should applaud him for standing up for his rights because ultimately he's also standing up for yours.
But the constitution as it stands, does not allow the authorities to compel a suspect to produce the files.
I'm not sure this is right. The state can compel you to provide physical evidence, just not testimonial evidence. Physical evidence is not protected by the 5th amendment. For example, you can be compelled to provide finger prints, body measurements, DNA and blood samples. The court forcing you to provide those is not a violation of your fifth amendment rights. Additionally, if you have paper files or a bloody knife in your house and the state requests the items with "reasonable particularity" then the production of those items is not protected by the 5th amendment. In other words, the state can't demand that you hand over all of your files or every knife in your house. But they can demand you hand over a particular file or knife that they know to exist. So if they know certain files reside on your encrypted drive, demanding you give access to the drive would not be a 5th amendment violation, unless it is ruled that providing the password is testimony. But if the request is simply a fishing expedition looking for incriminating evidence, you would have a 5th amendment right to refuse, regardless if providing a password is testimony or not.
Here's a memo on a recent case.
And like all techniques meant to momentarily weaken your resolve rather than actually hurt you, no I don't consider it torture.
So by that standard you'd be willing to watch your son's testicles get crushed since it only weakens your resolve and doesn't actually hurt you. Good to know you're ok with things that only weaken your resolve in case we ever need some info from you.
That's nothing. I don't have a house OR a car. I save a shit-ton of money.
The problem is that the practical effect of this falls disproportionately on the poor
We can mitigate this with tiered pricing. e.g. Your first X kw/hrs are subsidized below market price. Anything over X is taxed in order to pay the subsidy. Rich people with big houses who pollute more end up subsidizing the frugal energy users who are disciplined enough to keep their energy use down. PSNH already does this at my parent's place in NH.
From the title I thought someone had made a yeast that could survive in 50% alcohol. It'd make making homemade fuel a bit easier.
Nope, someone just invented liquor again. I guess that's good...
I know, those losers who saved $3,000 over the past 3 years! What are they gonna do! It's not like they can just call at any time and have their cable or satellite hooked back up!
Um, nope. You just flunked too, depending upon which state you're in.
Example 1 that took me 2 minutes to find.
Being in the intersection when your light turns red is illegal in all (states).
You're mistaken about that.
Many states only require you cross the white line before the light turns red.
You forgot the hardware.
Solve the energy crisis? ...better electricity storage
Which is exactly what producing hydrogen from water is about: storage.
Really? And this is impressive how? Seven years to reinvent existing technology? Puh-lease.
So, then, what impressive thing have you been doing for the past seven years?
What we need is a solar-powered plane capable of safely carrying a couple dozen people 500 miles.
No! What we NEED are rainbow-colored machines that turn tap water into oreo cookies. Why aren't they working on THAT???
I know! Like these bozos trying to sell this pedal-bike for $4,600 and it doesn't even have a motor like the $4,000 Honda Rebel motorcycle!!! What are they thinking? That people have varied needs and interests? Pfft! Good luck! I predict Apple is bankrupt by year-end.
There's this great feature called judgment. You read the headline, maybe scan the summary, and in about 2 and half seconds you can tell what type of post it is. Then, instead of following links and making a whiny post, you scroll down and read the next post.