As a fellow INTP you'd think I would have some advice, but I don't. I basically drifted through college, I found some things I liked, but nothing that really created a fire. got a triple major but no real direction. Sure, I can discuss philosophy with anyone, but where does that leave me besides becoming a teacher? I like computers, so I went into the computer field, but I haven't found it challenging, just something to pay the bills.
I am still looking for that passion in my life. I wish you luck at finding it. Listen to some of these other people who say to explore and try everything. That is good advice regardless. And if you can think of a better thing to do with a philosophy degree than debate with Jehovah's witnesses, I'd like to hear it.
Arguably once the wealth is redistributed into a single point, it ceases to have an inate value. When money stops moving it stops being worth anything more than the medium on which it is printed.
If you really want to quibble over the details, the communists want to destroy wealth by redistributing it equally while capitalists want to destroy wealth by accumulating it all. Obviously both examples are ideals and do not happen in reality, which is why we never have pure capitalism or pure communism, just human attempts at an ideal.
I believe you just agreed with me more than you intended. Capitalists use money to create more money, thereby further concentrating the money in their possession. By destroying money, I was referring to destroying its nature as a transferred object, when all the money is contained in one person, does that money have any value? Not in and of itself, however it creates power. That is extremist obviously.
His strategy was to make lots of money, that fact that other people also made money was not a motivating factor. If he could have made the money without paying them I bet he would have, at least ot the extend that is morally possible. However, my example was capitalism in a vaccuum which obviously never happens.
My school had a policy that anyone involved in a fight/assault was suspended, even if you didn't hit back you were gone. And yes, that was enforced. I got a 3 day vacation for being on the receiving end once.
Regarding the actual topic of this thread, it was great. I enjoyed reading it. I do wish there were more photos of the end game but still it was nice to imagine. A whole nest of thieves hanging out in a barbershop.
I think the phrase it meant to be parsed as, the first rock from the moon of another planet, i.e., a moon rock. That is interesting in that if true, it would give us detailed compositional information about the material of either Phobos or Demos, hmm, that isn't spelled correctly...oh well, the other moon, you know, where the red guys landed in Doom and you had to go shoot them repeatedly with the automatic shotgun (you did use the cheats, didn't you?)
From reading the article (gasp) it is a very very interesting rock, that shows three different rocks in it, the material of the parent body and then material from two different impacts, all amalgomated into one meteor that then visited our fair planet.
For those who didn't read the article, it most likely came from an object that roamed through the solar system collecting other objects (a celestial garbage truck). This is the preferred origin for both the moons of Mars, so while it might not have come from one of the moons and instead be from an object like Ceres, in any case it is interesting.
I do some wardriving and I can tell you that I wouldn't even attempt to break into what you just described wirelessly. If I did want in, it would be much easier to walk in the front door and socially engineer the secretary. WEP has been broken, I seem to thing one form of WAP has been, not sure which, but it is so difficult that a physical attack would be much more likely. Is your wired network that secure or can anyone plug into an open port and have full access?
You should map the network, understand where the signal reaches and try to tune the power to only go where you want it.
If you are paranoid enough to want to try all of the layers of encryption, and you should be, its fun to do. Then go with the setup you have and put IPSEC on top, that will make it at least as secure as your wired side. Be aware that you won't get anywhere near 54MBs with all of the encryption loading down the system, so it will be slow.
I am not aware of any attacks that could brute force this setup, but it would be easier for someone to socially engineer it, MAC addresses can be cloned, VPN logins stolen, so some form of automated monitoring would be nice, checking for duplicate logins, unauthorized times. Why is Bob trying to authenticate at 3AM? That kind of stuff.
and if I have that exposed instead of hiding it behind a knocking sequence, then I am more secure how? port knocking is another layer, one that hides you from port scanning and makes you a less obvious target. I really don't see why people object to it.
Ahh, thank you. For some reason I think the game referenced an earlier episode, but it might well have been referencing the movie, which I haven't seen. Still, now I have an excuse:)
As for the acronym, I am glad they did make it an acronym, i would get very tired having to repeat that entire phrase. Anyway, I enjoy the game:)
FAKK and FAKK 2. I'm not sure how realistic she is, but the dialog and actions seem almost real, except she isn't scared of spiders:) I'd say it is much more realistic than tomb raider in that aspect. Especially the dialog at the beginning of FAKK when she is talking to her pregnant sister and later with the sister's deadbeat husband.
(note, I haven't played FAKK. just FAKK 2. but I assume they are similar) Check it out, it is a fun game:)
Remember how it is based on linux? there are several wonderful replacement firmwares for it that give you some filtering options, you probably don't need the wireless part, but its what I've been deploying lately. check out the simandhi firmware and look at sveasoft.com. WRT54G as I recall, very wonderful little box and now you can make a hotspot and sell access to it also. the router isn't expensive, $80US I think. If you know enough, you might can do the filtering in straight iptables instead of the web interface, but that is a bit beyond me. good luck!
Coincidentally, I am setting up an email hosting service, I spent today installing Horde. I hadn't put any thought into japanese support and I have no idea what is involved yet but I will look into it more over the weekend. The server should be going live (assuming I don't redo it again) next week so if you want to be a test victim, i can probably arrange it. Let me know if you are interested.
Interesting, I have observed some of these same tendancies in people. I thnk it is more about the escape from normalicy when there is a lack of control. When we have strange things going on, there are others who join in just because it is different. Its a mini vacation in a way, i doubt if the deadline was longer than a week, that they would continue to act in the same manner. I've only tested it for a few hours though.
I am a "god" on another mud shameless Barren Realms plug and while reading this, it sounded a lot like what we do when we are bored. We are free so there is really nothing to lose besides time. I often kill people because they want it. I don't know Achaea's death system though so I don't know if it had any major penalties, for us it just means you have to walk back to your corpse and get your stuff again.
As for the giant butterflies, I usually have the vorpal bunny taunt people, although its a bit weak to actually kill anyone out of diapers:) There are some very powerful sheep, maybe I should go sic them on someone. Hmm...its 5:30, not many witnesses around...
And just in case anyone is reading this, particularly any of my fellow imms. We are a very friendly mud and pride ourselves on community, but like any community, we enjoy having a good time and playing with eachother.
Oh, this reminds of a time I tried one of my friend's muds and had no idea how the consideration system worked so I didn't understand the message that said that if I attack that hummingbird I would die a quick and painful death. Getting killed by a hummingbird is not the way I want to go.
I haven't actually read Feynman yet, but he is on the list. However, I have to say that the intellectual approach is the wrong one if done exclusively, I tried it and all it does is lead to further ostrization. It finally resulted in me asking this girl if I could "study" her. No, you don't want to enable that type of humiliation.
Getting the kid involved in any social skill is better, intellectual observations tend to be solitary. Team sports are of course good, but as most geeks are completely ungifted there, something like the science olympiad or governors academies are great. I learned a lot from each, how to work in a group, made some good friends.
If you have it in your area, JETS (Junior Engineer Technical Society or something like that) is a wonderful competition. A group of people that work as a group to solve some hard engineering problems and think outside the box. Get 100 young geeks together in a large room, they compete, they break for lunch and massive studiest of the aerodynamic properties of paper, then some more competition. Wonderful memories.
Play to the geek skills of random knowledge and challenge, but avoid the solitary activities and also downplay the sex angle unless they bring it up, let him do what he wants, just give some direction and motivation.
Yes, it justifies it if you can then use that investment to move from burger flipping to a nice white collar office.
You can do everything in a text editor, and I have great respect for people that do that, mixed with a healthy bit of fear. It is sort of like how I view people that only use a command line. Sure, I can do everything there, but I find it much easier to work from a GUI and just use the command line for a few things that work that way, I feel the same way about my HTML editors. It is easier to draw a box with the mouse and then tweak a setting in code than to code the entire thing.
I feel the same way. The lack of Dreamweaver was one thing that kept me on windows for longer than I wanted. Ever since I finally made the move I have been searching freshmeat, hoping that somewhere there was that miracle program that would do what I needed, but no such luck. Dreamweaver is by far the best WYSIWYG HTML editor, and for those who claim notepad (emacs), I can only assume you have never used dreamweaver. Its great how you can work with the code while also having the full power of a visual editor that just works. (Its like using a Mac:)
I would prefer to have a native port, as my experiences with WINE have been less than stellar, but I will take whatever I can get.
On a related note, I used Frontpage to make a site lately, mainly because I needed something simple, cheap and fast and it just happened to be on the system with MS Office. What happened to it? It used to be just a horrid WYSIWYG editor, but it has gone down hill! 2003 couldn't even upload the site and when I did finally get it up, it was broken, because it couldn't transfer its own _derived directory which for some strange reason contained most of the images. Admittedly I had low expectations, but it managed to underwhelm even those.
Long live dreamweaver! Gimp is great for graphics, and while I miss Photoshop since it is what I learned, i am happy with the replacement. Give me dreamweaver and I will be happy.
Why are you using my computer? I have a Geforce 2 Pro, ATI TV Wonder VE and a 19 incher. However, my experience hasn't been as positive, I've had a horrible time getting the bttv chipset working nicely in linux. In fact only once have I gotten full screen video, normally it won't scale beyond a 4x6 box. I got the full screen when I went to a 2.6 kernel but when I recompiled to fix something else it was gone again. It was just taunting me.
I really want to upgrade all of those components, the geforce 2 to something newer, I haven't decided between nvidia and ati yet, the tv card to that great card I heardabout but can't remember right now, something 350, and the monitor to an LCD. I would finally be able to see my desk again, and have more places to pile papers!
However, linux support is a big issue. If it won't work in linux with a minimum of hacking then I'm not interested, except perhaps to write the company and inform them I will not be purchasing their product as it seems defective.
Ok, back to searching for food. cookies for breakfast just isn't doing it for me today.
I am one of those cable monkeys and while I don't charge 3 digits per hour, I wouldn't be opposed to it, i guess it depends on your geographic location but where I am we would do the whole building for well under 7k. Without actually seeing it, I'd imagine 2-3k for labor and 1k for parts. Its a great project if you are planning on selling internet access or something to recoup the money, if you are just such a very nice person that you want to do this for free, good karma, bad economics. And if you do happen to be in VA, let me know and I'll hook you up with my company and something nice.
Wireless would be an easy way to do this project, for performance I'd say wire to each apartment and then wireless inside, but if the walls are thin and the signal strong, a good AP per floor or hallway or whatever would work. It might be possible to go entirely wireless but most likely you would need some kind of backbone, perhaps down the elevator like you suggested. It would certainly be cool to become an ISP, even if just for a few dozen people, and at $20/month * 20 people you get back $400 per month or $4800 per year. You won't get rich but it would buy regular pizza.
I've spent the last two days trying to get 2.6.1 running! Just 2 hours ago I finally got sound working and haven't dared touch it for fear it would stop again. I still haven't gotten my TV card working (btv878 chipset) but anyway, it shouldn't be hard to go up another minor revision, before this I was going from 2.4.22 so it was a much larger shift. Still, I'd have liked a day or two to bask in the geekdom of running the latest kernel before they take that all away from me!
I made it through two pages and was so close to getting the third. From what I learned it was a pretty nice design, more of a centralized exhaust system that blows air from the processor over the video card. Not sure where it goes from there so I don't know if there is memory cooling or what, but it looked like a better design form the poorly rendered graphics I saw.
I think its time for a redesign, ATX is a bit of a pain to use as its aged. So many things on it now and its not usually that easy to get to things. sure, good motherboard layout can help but I'm all for some competition to really improve on the design.
Ok, I apologise for the misunderstanding, you were just recommending what you know, its not the only path. I thank you for a very well thought out and reasoned response. Not really what I expected from my quasi flamebait
I have such dreams for linux but like most dreams the reality is somewhat dissappointing, but its still better than the alternative. I'm working on getting 2.6 to work right now, hence some of my frustration:)
Not to be too pedantic but really, you just suggested someone go to as bleeding edge as you can get without coding it yourself. I'm sure that is a very good suggestion but it just seems like a generalized linux problem. You take a very stable OS and then everyone has to run at the bleeding edge of everything which makes it crash more than windows if you want to keep up. Is it just the playing catchup mentality or the fact that open source projects are always under development and so never quite done?
I learned unix with vi on sparc stations so it is what I fall back to, but installing gentoo and not having it was a shock, but an enjoyable one. vi is great with its power but really, its not easy to use if you don't know it, nano is so much easier and now I wish I had it on more things by default. I still think they should have stuck vi on the disk just for the people that already know how to use it, its probably not that big. I haven't actually checked.
I do love gentoo and debians design and structure, but they can be such a pain to get started with. I installed debian by way of knoppix and then I ran apt-get upgrade and just let it do everything ot see what would happen. it didn't make it back into X on the next boot. I figured that would happen, but still, it should of had safe sources. Debian is very slow to get running well and since I just have one system that I basically have to keep running, I can't spare the time to get it, but I have dreams.
Performance: obviously the latency, but you also need to know that it doesn't just kill games, web pages can be a problem. They have some fancy caching software that softens the blow so it is tolerable but in general lots of surfing isn't any faster than a 56k and the download cap is very annoying, you can hit it in 30 minutes and basically be offline for the rest of the day. I have a friend/fellow installer who has it and he can't get isos because it would use all his throughput and its not worth it. (He doesn't seem to understand how to throttle things)
Cost: Its expensive but if its the only thing available then its the cheapest option.
Installation: It is a dish that has to be mounted to your house and the installers are not highly paid (barely paid is more accurate) so don't expect them to do a good job. If you can wire your house for them and have everything ready then they will probably do a better job. I prefer pole mounts where you drop a steel pole in the ground and mount to it or some other mount that isn't attached ot the house. Digging a trench and sticking some conduit in it out to a wooden or metal pole will make a happy installer who might try to do a better job. These things are huge pains to point and get good signal but they also don't drop as much as direcTV since they are a bigger and more powerful dish.
DirecWay itself isn't very responsive to problems. They are no help at all if you aren't running windows and their software. Still, given the choice between DirecWay and a 56k modem, I'd probably pick DirecWay, at least if they were the same price...I (*shudder*) was only able to get AOL in my old place and that never got about a 28k connection so moving to here and finally having cable has been amazing. I visit people with DirecWay and its so slow by comparison. Still, get it if you can afford it and a modem isn't doing it for you.
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As a fellow INTP you'd think I would have some advice, but I don't. I basically drifted through college, I found some things I liked, but nothing that really created a fire. got a triple major but no real direction. Sure, I can discuss philosophy with anyone, but where does that leave me besides becoming a teacher? I like computers, so I went into the computer field, but I haven't found it challenging, just something to pay the bills.
I am still looking for that passion in my life. I wish you luck at finding it. Listen to some of these other people who say to explore and try everything. That is good advice regardless. And if you can think of a better thing to do with a philosophy degree than debate with Jehovah's witnesses, I'd like to hear it.
Arguably once the wealth is redistributed into a single point, it ceases to have an inate value. When money stops moving it stops being worth anything more than the medium on which it is printed.
If you really want to quibble over the details, the communists want to destroy wealth by redistributing it equally while capitalists want to destroy wealth by accumulating it all. Obviously both examples are ideals and do not happen in reality, which is why we never have pure capitalism or pure communism, just human attempts at an ideal.
I believe you just agreed with me more than you intended. Capitalists use money to create more money, thereby further concentrating the money in their possession. By destroying money, I was referring to destroying its nature as a transferred object, when all the money is contained in one person, does that money have any value? Not in and of itself, however it creates power. That is extremist obviously.
His strategy was to make lots of money, that fact that other people also made money was not a motivating factor. If he could have made the money without paying them I bet he would have, at least ot the extend that is morally possible. However, my example was capitalism in a vaccuum which obviously never happens.
Short answer: When I have it all.
Capitalists are not about making money, they are about destroying it. A capitalist wants to concentrate all of the wealth in one person.
I'm not necessarily a capitalist but I do have those impulses and I can tell you that given free reign, that is where they would lead.
My school had a policy that anyone involved in a fight/assault was suspended, even if you didn't hit back you were gone. And yes, that was enforced. I got a 3 day vacation for being on the receiving end once.
Regarding the actual topic of this thread, it was great. I enjoyed reading it. I do wish there were more photos of the end game but still it was nice to imagine. A whole nest of thieves hanging out in a barbershop.
I think the phrase it meant to be parsed as, the first rock from the moon of another planet, i.e., a moon rock. That is interesting in that if true, it would give us detailed compositional information about the material of either Phobos or Demos, hmm, that isn't spelled correctly...oh well, the other moon, you know, where the red guys landed in Doom and you had to go shoot them repeatedly with the automatic shotgun (you did use the cheats, didn't you?) From reading the article (gasp) it is a very very interesting rock, that shows three different rocks in it, the material of the parent body and then material from two different impacts, all amalgomated into one meteor that then visited our fair planet.
For those who didn't read the article, it most likely came from an object that roamed through the solar system collecting other objects (a celestial garbage truck). This is the preferred origin for both the moons of Mars, so while it might not have come from one of the moons and instead be from an object like Ceres, in any case it is interesting.
I do some wardriving and I can tell you that I wouldn't even attempt to break into what you just described wirelessly. If I did want in, it would be much easier to walk in the front door and socially engineer the secretary. WEP has been broken, I seem to thing one form of WAP has been, not sure which, but it is so difficult that a physical attack would be much more likely. Is your wired network that secure or can anyone plug into an open port and have full access?
You should map the network, understand where the signal reaches and try to tune the power to only go where you want it.
If you are paranoid enough to want to try all of the layers of encryption, and you should be, its fun to do. Then go with the setup you have and put IPSEC on top, that will make it at least as secure as your wired side. Be aware that you won't get anywhere near 54MBs with all of the encryption loading down the system, so it will be slow.
I am not aware of any attacks that could brute force this setup, but it would be easier for someone to socially engineer it, MAC addresses can be cloned, VPN logins stolen, so some form of automated monitoring would be nice, checking for duplicate logins, unauthorized times. Why is Bob trying to authenticate at 3AM? That kind of stuff.
and if I have that exposed instead of hiding it behind a knocking sequence, then I am more secure how? port knocking is another layer, one that hides you from port scanning and makes you a less obvious target. I really don't see why people object to it.
Ahh, thank you. For some reason I think the game referenced an earlier episode, but it might well have been referencing the movie, which I haven't seen. Still, now I have an excuse:)
As for the acronym, I am glad they did make it an acronym, i would get very tired having to repeat that entire phrase. Anyway, I enjoy the game:)
FAKK and FAKK 2. I'm not sure how realistic she is, but the dialog and actions seem almost real, except she isn't scared of spiders:) I'd say it is much more realistic than tomb raider in that aspect. Especially the dialog at the beginning of FAKK when she is talking to her pregnant sister and later with the sister's deadbeat husband.
(note, I haven't played FAKK. just FAKK 2. but I assume they are similar) Check it out, it is a fun game:)
Remember how it is based on linux? there are several wonderful replacement firmwares for it that give you some filtering options, you probably don't need the wireless part, but its what I've been deploying lately. check out the simandhi firmware and look at sveasoft.com. WRT54G as I recall, very wonderful little box and now you can make a hotspot and sell access to it also. the router isn't expensive, $80US I think. If you know enough, you might can do the filtering in straight iptables instead of the web interface, but that is a bit beyond me. good luck!
Coincidentally, I am setting up an email hosting service, I spent today installing Horde. I hadn't put any thought into japanese support and I have no idea what is involved yet but I will look into it more over the weekend. The server should be going live (assuming I don't redo it again) next week so if you want to be a test victim, i can probably arrange it. Let me know if you are interested.
Interesting, I have observed some of these same tendancies in people. I thnk it is more about the escape from normalicy when there is a lack of control. When we have strange things going on, there are others who join in just because it is different. Its a mini vacation in a way, i doubt if the deadline was longer than a week, that they would continue to act in the same manner. I've only tested it for a few hours though.
I am a "god" on another mud shameless Barren Realms plug and while reading this, it sounded a lot like what we do when we are bored. We are free so there is really nothing to lose besides time. I often kill people because they want it. I don't know Achaea's death system though so I don't know if it had any major penalties, for us it just means you have to walk back to your corpse and get your stuff again.
As for the giant butterflies, I usually have the vorpal bunny taunt people, although its a bit weak to actually kill anyone out of diapers:) There are some very powerful sheep, maybe I should go sic them on someone. Hmm...its 5:30, not many witnesses around...
And just in case anyone is reading this, particularly any of my fellow imms. We are a very friendly mud and pride ourselves on community, but like any community, we enjoy having a good time and playing with eachother.
Oh, this reminds of a time I tried one of my friend's muds and had no idea how the consideration system worked so I didn't understand the message that said that if I attack that hummingbird I would die a quick and painful death. Getting killed by a hummingbird is not the way I want to go.
I haven't actually read Feynman yet, but he is on the list. However, I have to say that the intellectual approach is the wrong one if done exclusively, I tried it and all it does is lead to further ostrization. It finally resulted in me asking this girl if I could "study" her. No, you don't want to enable that type of humiliation.
Getting the kid involved in any social skill is better, intellectual observations tend to be solitary. Team sports are of course good, but as most geeks are completely ungifted there, something like the science olympiad or governors academies are great. I learned a lot from each, how to work in a group, made some good friends.
If you have it in your area, JETS (Junior Engineer Technical Society or something like that) is a wonderful competition. A group of people that work as a group to solve some hard engineering problems and think outside the box. Get 100 young geeks together in a large room, they compete, they break for lunch and massive studiest of the aerodynamic properties of paper, then some more competition. Wonderful memories.
Play to the geek skills of random knowledge and challenge, but avoid the solitary activities and also downplay the sex angle unless they bring it up, let him do what he wants, just give some direction and motivation.
Most of all, let the kid have fun!
Yes, it justifies it if you can then use that investment to move from burger flipping to a nice white collar office.
You can do everything in a text editor, and I have great respect for people that do that, mixed with a healthy bit of fear. It is sort of like how I view people that only use a command line. Sure, I can do everything there, but I find it much easier to work from a GUI and just use the command line for a few things that work that way, I feel the same way about my HTML editors. It is easier to draw a box with the mouse and then tweak a setting in code than to code the entire thing.
I feel the same way. The lack of Dreamweaver was one thing that kept me on windows for longer than I wanted. Ever since I finally made the move I have been searching freshmeat, hoping that somewhere there was that miracle program that would do what I needed, but no such luck. Dreamweaver is by far the best WYSIWYG HTML editor, and for those who claim notepad (emacs), I can only assume you have never used dreamweaver. Its great how you can work with the code while also having the full power of a visual editor that just works. (Its like using a Mac:)
I would prefer to have a native port, as my experiences with WINE have been less than stellar, but I will take whatever I can get.
On a related note, I used Frontpage to make a site lately, mainly because I needed something simple, cheap and fast and it just happened to be on the system with MS Office. What happened to it? It used to be just a horrid WYSIWYG editor, but it has gone down hill! 2003 couldn't even upload the site and when I did finally get it up, it was broken, because it couldn't transfer its own _derived directory which for some strange reason contained most of the images. Admittedly I had low expectations, but it managed to underwhelm even those.
Long live dreamweaver! Gimp is great for graphics, and while I miss Photoshop since it is what I learned, i am happy with the replacement. Give me dreamweaver and I will be happy.
David, Frustrated Web Artist Extraordinaire.
Why are you using my computer? I have a Geforce 2 Pro, ATI TV Wonder VE and a 19 incher. However, my experience hasn't been as positive, I've had a horrible time getting the bttv chipset working nicely in linux. In fact only once have I gotten full screen video, normally it won't scale beyond a 4x6 box. I got the full screen when I went to a 2.6 kernel but when I recompiled to fix something else it was gone again. It was just taunting me.
I really want to upgrade all of those components, the geforce 2 to something newer, I haven't decided between nvidia and ati yet, the tv card to that great card I heardabout but can't remember right now, something 350, and the monitor to an LCD. I would finally be able to see my desk again, and have more places to pile papers!
However, linux support is a big issue. If it won't work in linux with a minimum of hacking then I'm not interested, except perhaps to write the company and inform them I will not be purchasing their product as it seems defective.
Ok, back to searching for food. cookies for breakfast just isn't doing it for me today.
I am one of those cable monkeys and while I don't charge 3 digits per hour, I wouldn't be opposed to it, i guess it depends on your geographic location but where I am we would do the whole building for well under 7k. Without actually seeing it, I'd imagine 2-3k for labor and 1k for parts. Its a great project if you are planning on selling internet access or something to recoup the money, if you are just such a very nice person that you want to do this for free, good karma, bad economics. And if you do happen to be in VA, let me know and I'll hook you up with my company and something nice.
Wireless would be an easy way to do this project, for performance I'd say wire to each apartment and then wireless inside, but if the walls are thin and the signal strong, a good AP per floor or hallway or whatever would work. It might be possible to go entirely wireless but most likely you would need some kind of backbone, perhaps down the elevator like you suggested. It would certainly be cool to become an ISP, even if just for a few dozen people, and at $20/month * 20 people you get back $400 per month or $4800 per year. You won't get rich but it would buy regular pizza.
Let us know what you did and how it worked out.I've spent the last two days trying to get 2.6.1 running! Just 2 hours ago I finally got sound working and haven't dared touch it for fear it would stop again. I still haven't gotten my TV card working (btv878 chipset) but anyway, it shouldn't be hard to go up another minor revision, before this I was going from 2.4.22 so it was a much larger shift. Still, I'd have liked a day or two to bask in the geekdom of running the latest kernel before they take that all away from me!
I made it through two pages and was so close to getting the third. From what I learned it was a pretty nice design, more of a centralized exhaust system that blows air from the processor over the video card. Not sure where it goes from there so I don't know if there is memory cooling or what, but it looked like a better design form the poorly rendered graphics I saw.
I think its time for a redesign, ATX is a bit of a pain to use as its aged. So many things on it now and its not usually that easy to get to things. sure, good motherboard layout can help but I'm all for some competition to really improve on the design.
Ok, I apologise for the misunderstanding, you were just recommending what you know, its not the only path. I thank you for a very well thought out and reasoned response. Not really what I expected from my quasi flamebait
I have such dreams for linux but like most dreams the reality is somewhat dissappointing, but its still better than the alternative. I'm working on getting 2.6 to work right now, hence some of my frustration:)
Not to be too pedantic but really, you just suggested someone go to as bleeding edge as you can get without coding it yourself. I'm sure that is a very good suggestion but it just seems like a generalized linux problem. You take a very stable OS and then everyone has to run at the bleeding edge of everything which makes it crash more than windows if you want to keep up. Is it just the playing catchup mentality or the fact that open source projects are always under development and so never quite done?
I learned unix with vi on sparc stations so it is what I fall back to, but installing gentoo and not having it was a shock, but an enjoyable one. vi is great with its power but really, its not easy to use if you don't know it, nano is so much easier and now I wish I had it on more things by default. I still think they should have stuck vi on the disk just for the people that already know how to use it, its probably not that big. I haven't actually checked.
I do love gentoo and debians design and structure, but they can be such a pain to get started with. I installed debian by way of knoppix and then I ran apt-get upgrade and just let it do everything ot see what would happen. it didn't make it back into X on the next boot. I figured that would happen, but still, it should of had safe sources. Debian is very slow to get running well and since I just have one system that I basically have to keep running, I can't spare the time to get it, but I have dreams.
A few notes from this side of the fence.
Performance: obviously the latency, but you also need to know that it doesn't just kill games, web pages can be a problem. They have some fancy caching software that softens the blow so it is tolerable but in general lots of surfing isn't any faster than a 56k and the download cap is very annoying, you can hit it in 30 minutes and basically be offline for the rest of the day. I have a friend/fellow installer who has it and he can't get isos because it would use all his throughput and its not worth it. (He doesn't seem to understand how to throttle things)
Cost: Its expensive but if its the only thing available then its the cheapest option.
Installation: It is a dish that has to be mounted to your house and the installers are not highly paid (barely paid is more accurate) so don't expect them to do a good job. If you can wire your house for them and have everything ready then they will probably do a better job. I prefer pole mounts where you drop a steel pole in the ground and mount to it or some other mount that isn't attached ot the house. Digging a trench and sticking some conduit in it out to a wooden or metal pole will make a happy installer who might try to do a better job. These things are huge pains to point and get good signal but they also don't drop as much as direcTV since they are a bigger and more powerful dish.
DirecWay itself isn't very responsive to problems. They are no help at all if you aren't running windows and their software. Still, given the choice between DirecWay and a 56k modem, I'd probably pick DirecWay, at least if they were the same price...I (*shudder*) was only able to get AOL in my old place and that never got about a 28k connection so moving to here and finally having cable has been amazing. I visit people with DirecWay and its so slow by comparison. Still, get it if you can afford it and a modem isn't doing it for you.