Well wine does have support for WoW (Gold and Platinum support). New versions of MS Office, maybe not so much. So once you have the installer you can just 'wine WoWInstaller.exe':)
I guess if you're installing WoW and MS Office and Photoshop on OS X, that makes the "Apple Tax" even higher. Still, if I had an extra couple thousand dollars to spend, I'd love to get my hands on a nice Apple laptop.:)
Saying "Get Linux" is more like saying "Get an Automobile". There are tons of different types of automobiles out there from compact cars to sedans to luxury cars, sports cars, SUVs, crossovers, motorcycles, trucks, etc., from different manufacturers.
The general public has no problem figuring out what an "automobile" is, and then figuring out which one is 'good' for them individually. Why should a computer operating system be any different?
One of the main benefits of Linux is the freedom it provides. Freedom to use the distribution (make/model) of your choice. Freedom to use whatever packages (add-on accessories in a car) you want.
So they're saying Windows 7 will be such a failure before it's even released, that customers may want to just stick with XP until Microsoft straightens things out?
I might possibly consider running Windows 7 on my desktop... inside VMWare Server, with no network adapter configured, and VMWare Server in a chroot jail.:-)
"despite all the 'Vista sucks!' being thrown around, it didn't slow down adoption at all"
Where can I go into a shop and buy a PC with the previous incarnation of Windows? And if Vista is such a success why is MS moving to Windows 7 already?
Also, where can you go into a shop and buy a PC with Linux, or Solaris, or something else (not MAC) on it? You can get Ubuntu on Dell.com, but what about brick & mortar stores?
I think the sales of vista are a bit overrated too. If I'm not mistaken, when a customer buys a downgrade to XP from a store, they are still buying Vista. The PC sale is counted as a Vista (Business?) license even though the customer is getting XP.
I'm glad I got my current system from TigerDirect. No need to bother formatting the drive to get rid of Windows and put my own OS on it:)
I was surprised how low-end these VMs could go. My last system was an AMD Athlon XP 3200+ with 512 MB DDR PC2700 RAM and a 200 GB IDE hard drive. At one point, I had that running a dual-boot setup with Windows XP Professional and Gentoo Linux. I installed VMware Server inside Windows XP Pro, and configured it to boot Gentoo from the physical partition.
It ran fairly well with that setup considering that I only had 512 MB RAM for the entire system, and only gave about 128 to Gentoo.
I've ran a few other OS installations in VMware on that box as well including Solaris 10, Windows 2000 Server trial, and a few other Linux distros... only one Virtual OS at a time though. Windows 2000 started running pretty bad when I tried to set it up as a DC.:-D
Kind of like how retail stores sell RAM for way too high of a price? I could go to Staples to buy a 1 GB stick of DDR RAM for about $40-$50, or buy the same thing on newegg for around $20. Staples (and other retail stores) are targeting people who are either unaware of online sources, or have broken computers (failed RAM) and are unable to shop online, so they go to the store.
It's great... rip of your customer in their time of need. I guess it makes sense from a business standpoint, in the short term anyway. But then if John Doe HAS to buy that expensive RAM, once he gets his computer back up and running, he may just find out about newegg or another cheaper store for his next purchase.
Depends on what you call "good" music. Some people like Green Day, some like Marilyn Manson, some like Sonata Arctica, some like Britney Spears or Playhouse Disney music.
Personally, I don't have any specific band or genre I like. I just hear a song, and if I like it, I keep listening.
Come to think of it, I think I was actually responding about another comment, not Anonymous Coward's comment. I didn't even see the "in jail, no expenses" post. I'm still getting used to the expanding/collapsing threads interface of Slashdot. I don't browse too often. The AC comment was probably hidden when I posted.
Jailed people definitely still have expenses that need to be paid in the 'real world' It's just the wealthy likely have a much easier time paying those expenses.
I think the point is that if wealthy people get thrown in jail for a few months while waiting for their trial, it's not so hard on them. They still have their millions in their bank accounts that can be used to pay the bills.
If you throw someone in jail who is not wealthy, perhaps just making ends meet, where are they getting the money to pay the bills? Yes, the landlords, insurance companies, etc., still need their money, but where will that money come from if he is in jail unable to earn a living?
It would be different if he was actually found guilty of the crime. If that was the case, he could be locked up, lose his house/appartment, lose his auto insurance, and everything else since he won't need it for a long time...
It doesn't seem right that the court system can punish someone (put them in jail) for months just because they are accused of a crime, without actually finding him guilty. And the taxpayers pay for all of it.
Seems this would be difficult to do in companies that require you to log in with a smart card, which is also your ID badge, and this smart card attaches to one single account. So employees requiring admin privileges for certain things won't have a non-admin account if there can only be one account on the smart card... unless they have everyone carry multiple cards.
But then the employee would have to remember which card is admin and which is not. Do you mark them? Then unauthorized users can seek out and steal these "admin" marked cards to try and access the network.
I wonder how much money they wasted on an analysis like this? Wow, I had no idea that if I log into a Windows box with full rights, that any software that runs under my account will have... full rights to the system?!
Think of the poor airline pilots, who have 100's of lives on board, restricted lanes to travel in, air traffic control to help guide them....now having to watch out for lunatics in personal flying cars swooping across the front of their cockpits. It'd be an interesting new approach for a terrorist attack.
Isn't that what air brakes are for?:-P
I would imagine these flying cars would have their own low-altitude restricted space to fly in. If that's the case, they wouldn't be anywhere near commercial jets, except maybe during the jets' take-off and landing.
Wouldn't these things also be linked to air traffic control?
What about Military bases? Criminals wouldn't have to worry about those pesky guarded gates anymore. Wait until 100s of commuters decide to attempt to commute to work in these things on a Monday morning.
It's good to know UAC has those configuration options other than just ON and OFF. I've never really taken the time to look into it. I just think the default is horrible.
Even for a home user. I don't think your average home user is going to know what UAC is even prompting them for, and may just get in the habit of blindly clicking accept and entering credentials every time.
A few years ago, I installed ZoneAlarm on my mother-in-law's computer to see how it would work for her and her family. It turned out to not be a good idea. I was constantly getting phone calls or emails every time there was a pop-up about " is trying to ". I kept trying to tell them to just deny everything unless they actually knew what the thing was trying to do AND if they wanted to really do that action. The calls didn't stop anyway, so I uninstalled it.
I picture UAC for a home user being the same way. They'll get tired of the prompts, won't know you can turn it off, and will just blindly click through to make it go away. Defeats the real purpose of it, which seems to make it a bit useless.
If you're on a domain, and you're the domain admin, and you dont like how UAC is configured out of the box, why dont you change it?
You seem to be complaining about something that you dont really understand, and havent taken the short amount of time to figure it out.
Oh don't get me wrong, I understand how UAC works and how to disable it. That is why I said I'll probably end up disabling it. My point was just the fact that it is there, and especially that it is a bit intrusive, is annoying.
Perhaps it's a good thing that it is so intrusive since it will potentially get people to think more and more about security and the need to run as a normal user, and could get developers to write their software more appropriately to take advantage of appropriate user permissions. For those of us who understand it already, it gets in the way, even just for the first few minutes before disabling it. It's just an annoying feature that could be done more like sudo in Linux.
Yeah I can't stand UAC on Vista. I will probably end up disabling it on our laptops. I recently tried adding a couple new Vista laptops to our domain at work and went through the standard UAC handshake of...
"do you want to perform this action?"... *click*... "press ctrl+alt+delete to enter your credentials"... *press the sequence, enter the credentials*... "do you want to perform this action?"... *click*... laptop is added to the domain.
Yes, it actually asked me twice if I wanted to perform this action. I was even logged on as domain administrator, and still needed to go through the sequence, although I didn't actually have to enter my credentials.
Agreed. Just like it's annoying how some websites will use javascript to show you a Word document, or a PDF. I have to enable the website's domain in NoScript just to see the content of the document. Just give me a link to download the document!
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Well wine does have support for WoW (Gold and Platinum support). New versions of MS Office, maybe not so much. So once you have the installer you can just 'wine WoWInstaller.exe' :)
I guess if you're installing WoW and MS Office and Photoshop on OS X, that makes the "Apple Tax" even higher. Still, if I had an extra couple thousand dollars to spend, I'd love to get my hands on a nice Apple laptop. :)
And for the WoW fans out there:
su root -c 'emerge wine' && winecfg && wget http://ftp.somesite.com/path/to/WorldOfWarcraft-Installer.exe && wine WorldOfWarcraft-Installer.exe
Then you have a shiny new icon for WoW on your desktop. Enjoy. :-P
Why would a user try to install MS Windows programs in Linux (unless that program actually has a Linux version)?
Simiarly, do new OS X users sit down at their shiny new Macbook Pro and try to install a bunch of Windows applications?
Saying "Get Linux" is more like saying "Get an Automobile". There are tons of different types of automobiles out there from compact cars to sedans to luxury cars, sports cars, SUVs, crossovers, motorcycles, trucks, etc., from different manufacturers.
The general public has no problem figuring out what an "automobile" is, and then figuring out which one is 'good' for them individually. Why should a computer operating system be any different?
One of the main benefits of Linux is the freedom it provides. Freedom to use the distribution (make/model) of your choice. Freedom to use whatever packages (add-on accessories in a car) you want.
Any games I play, well one really, I just run under wine. It actually runs better in wine than it does in XP for me :)
So they're saying Windows 7 will be such a failure before it's even released, that customers may want to just stick with XP until Microsoft straightens things out?
I'll stick with Linux myself.
I might possibly consider running Windows 7 on my desktop... inside VMWare Server, with no network adapter configured, and VMWare Server in a chroot jail. :-)
"despite all the 'Vista sucks!' being thrown around, it didn't slow down adoption at all"
Where can I go into a shop and buy a PC with the previous incarnation of Windows? And if Vista is such a success why is MS moving to Windows 7 already?
Also, where can you go into a shop and buy a PC with Linux, or Solaris, or something else (not MAC) on it? You can get Ubuntu on Dell.com, but what about brick & mortar stores?
I think the sales of vista are a bit overrated too. If I'm not mistaken, when a customer buys a downgrade to XP from a store, they are still buying Vista. The PC sale is counted as a Vista (Business?) license even though the customer is getting XP.
I'm glad I got my current system from TigerDirect. No need to bother formatting the drive to get rid of Windows and put my own OS on it :)
I was surprised how low-end these VMs could go. My last system was an AMD Athlon XP 3200+ with 512 MB DDR PC2700 RAM and a 200 GB IDE hard drive. At one point, I had that running a dual-boot setup with Windows XP Professional and Gentoo Linux. I installed VMware Server inside Windows XP Pro, and configured it to boot Gentoo from the physical partition.
It ran fairly well with that setup considering that I only had 512 MB RAM for the entire system, and only gave about 128 to Gentoo.
I've ran a few other OS installations in VMware on that box as well including Solaris 10, Windows 2000 Server trial, and a few other Linux distros... only one Virtual OS at a time though. Windows 2000 started running pretty bad when I tried to set it up as a DC. :-D
I'm always pointing this out to people when they get into PC vs. Mac discussions. PC != Microsoft Windows systems.
Kind of like how retail stores sell RAM for way too high of a price? I could go to Staples to buy a 1 GB stick of DDR RAM for about $40-$50, or buy the same thing on newegg for around $20. Staples (and other retail stores) are targeting people who are either unaware of online sources, or have broken computers (failed RAM) and are unable to shop online, so they go to the store.
It's great... rip of your customer in their time of need. I guess it makes sense from a business standpoint, in the short term anyway. But then if John Doe HAS to buy that expensive RAM, once he gets his computer back up and running, he may just find out about newegg or another cheaper store for his next purchase.
Depends on what you call "good" music. Some people like Green Day, some like Marilyn Manson, some like Sonata Arctica, some like Britney Spears or Playhouse Disney music.
Personally, I don't have any specific band or genre I like. I just hear a song, and if I like it, I keep listening.
I'm with you on this one. I don't think Nickelback is all that bad. They have some decent stuff. I guess it depends on what type of music you're into.
Come to think of it, I think I was actually responding about another comment, not Anonymous Coward's comment. I didn't even see the "in jail, no expenses" post. I'm still getting used to the expanding/collapsing threads interface of Slashdot. I don't browse too often. The AC comment was probably hidden when I posted.
Jailed people definitely still have expenses that need to be paid in the 'real world' It's just the wealthy likely have a much easier time paying those expenses.
I think the point is that if wealthy people get thrown in jail for a few months while waiting for their trial, it's not so hard on them. They still have their millions in their bank accounts that can be used to pay the bills.
If you throw someone in jail who is not wealthy, perhaps just making ends meet, where are they getting the money to pay the bills? Yes, the landlords, insurance companies, etc., still need their money, but where will that money come from if he is in jail unable to earn a living?
It would be different if he was actually found guilty of the crime. If that was the case, he could be locked up, lose his house/appartment, lose his auto insurance, and everything else since he won't need it for a long time...
It doesn't seem right that the court system can punish someone (put them in jail) for months just because they are accused of a crime, without actually finding him guilty. And the taxpayers pay for all of it.
Seems this would be difficult to do in companies that require you to log in with a smart card, which is also your ID badge, and this smart card attaches to one single account. So employees requiring admin privileges for certain things won't have a non-admin account if there can only be one account on the smart card... unless they have everyone carry multiple cards.
But then the employee would have to remember which card is admin and which is not. Do you mark them? Then unauthorized users can seek out and steal these "admin" marked cards to try and access the network.
I wonder how much money they wasted on an analysis like this? Wow, I had no idea that if I log into a Windows box with full rights, that any software that runs under my account will have... full rights to the system?!
You should call your file server TheInternet. Then you really CAN back up the Internet. It just won't fit on a floppy disk.
"An Ohio teen was found guilty of murdering his mother and shooting his father in the head after they took away his [thing that he really liked]"
If he had a caffeine addiction and his parents took away his Coke would that mean that it was the fault of the Coke that he murdered them?
YES it would! Coca-Cola shouldn't be making their flagship soda so freakin' delicious!
No, I know exactly what you mean. I was about to respond with the same thing, but didn't want to sound redundant. I guess you beat me to it.
Think of the poor airline pilots, who have 100's of lives on board, restricted lanes to travel in, air traffic control to help guide them....now having to watch out for lunatics in personal flying cars swooping across the front of their cockpits. It'd be an interesting new approach for a terrorist attack.
Isn't that what air brakes are for? :-P
I would imagine these flying cars would have their own low-altitude restricted space to fly in. If that's the case, they wouldn't be anywhere near commercial jets, except maybe during the jets' take-off and landing.
Wouldn't these things also be linked to air traffic control?
What about Military bases? Criminals wouldn't have to worry about those pesky guarded gates anymore. Wait until 100s of commuters decide to attempt to commute to work in these things on a Monday morning.
It's good to know UAC has those configuration options other than just ON and OFF. I've never really taken the time to look into it. I just think the default is horrible.
Even for a home user. I don't think your average home user is going to know what UAC is even prompting them for, and may just get in the habit of blindly clicking accept and entering credentials every time.
A few years ago, I installed ZoneAlarm on my mother-in-law's computer to see how it would work for her and her family. It turned out to not be a good idea. I was constantly getting phone calls or emails every time there was a pop-up about " is trying to ". I kept trying to tell them to just deny everything unless they actually knew what the thing was trying to do AND if they wanted to really do that action. The calls didn't stop anyway, so I uninstalled it.
I picture UAC for a home user being the same way. They'll get tired of the prompts, won't know you can turn it off, and will just blindly click through to make it go away. Defeats the real purpose of it, which seems to make it a bit useless.
If you're on a domain, and you're the domain admin, and you dont like how UAC is configured out of the box, why dont you change it?
You seem to be complaining about something that you dont really understand, and havent taken the short amount of time to figure it out.
Oh don't get me wrong, I understand how UAC works and how to disable it. That is why I said I'll probably end up disabling it. My point was just the fact that it is there, and especially that it is a bit intrusive, is annoying.
Perhaps it's a good thing that it is so intrusive since it will potentially get people to think more and more about security and the need to run as a normal user, and could get developers to write their software more appropriately to take advantage of appropriate user permissions. For those of us who understand it already, it gets in the way, even just for the first few minutes before disabling it. It's just an annoying feature that could be done more like sudo in Linux.
Yeah I can't stand UAC on Vista. I will probably end up disabling it on our laptops. I recently tried adding a couple new Vista laptops to our domain at work and went through the standard UAC handshake of...
"do you want to perform this action?"... *click*... "press ctrl+alt+delete to enter your credentials"... *press the sequence, enter the credentials*... "do you want to perform this action?"... *click*... laptop is added to the domain.
Yes, it actually asked me twice if I wanted to perform this action. I was even logged on as domain administrator, and still needed to go through the sequence, although I didn't actually have to enter my credentials.
Agreed. Just like it's annoying how some websites will use javascript to show you a Word document, or a PDF. I have to enable the website's domain in NoScript just to see the content of the document. Just give me a link to download the document!