I can admit to the "cool" factor... fireworks are cool. I'm less suprised by the innovation than the fact that Di$ney gave away the patents away. Maybe their karma is really that low, I don't know. But as for the tech, c'mon, I fired bottle rockets out of my bb-gun to get an extra few meters out of the flight.
Well, it's nice to know that a multi-billion dollar empire can follow where a teenager has boldy gone.;)
"No officer, I didn't see any pink elephants, but that polka-dot rhinocerous scared the sh*t out of me."
I would posit that it's "nerdy" because he did a totally common thing in a totally new way, followed by controversy. Many of us have thought about slugging someone in a bar. How many of us considered untying the chandelier he's standing under? This guy did that.
Intelligent, misunderstood youths discover internet, realize they've been lied to, strung along, generally mistreated. Youths show the guts and brains to learn without teachers.
Feds discover internet, realize there are children smarter and more skilled than them, throw beauracratic temper-tantrum, track down said kids (well, some of 'em) and bust them, refuse leniency.
Feds realize this "internet thingy" is more important than they though, and worse, there are kids in other countries who not only have mad skillz, but also actively hate america. Feds shit bricks.
Gov't, realizing it has cut off it's left testicle, tries to fill the gap with "Ethical hackers", ie, tries to create what it had in the first place.
Jeezus F Kryst on a surfboard, why didn't you just train the @#(*&^*(@# hackers in ethics in the first place? You can't teach curiosity, autodidactism or problem solving.
>>Using parthenogenesis to attempt to "explain away" the virgin birth is just stupid.
Wow, you are really humorless. BTW, asshat, I made that insight when I was 16. You must be a real big man, to see the logical phallacy in a joke. Woo Woo! I ph34r your asshat-5kills!
>>It's impossible, even in the absurd event of unstimulated parthenogenesis, for a male to be born this way. Sorry to just blow a big huge hole in your weak arguement, but if you make arguements as dumb as this you should expect it to happen.
Dude, grow up. The whole world isn't a catholic convent, ya know. Oh yeah, just what argument do you presume I was making? Hmm? I don't recall making one at all. Wow, you religious freaks are really volatile when your faith comes into question, aren't you? Fucktard. Get a clue, or at least take a class. Fuck you!:)
One last thing, god-boy, what if anything do you have to say about the other posts, re: translations of the Bible? Oh, nothing huh. That's what I thought. Apologies to non-asshats (that doesn't mean you, bahamutherf*cker.)
Hmm. A 5 year old with hyper-developed musculature. This kind of puts a whole new twist (for me) on the Greek "myths" of Heracles/Hercules (You know, the really strong dude).
I want to say something about the crew that will go to Mars (assuming there ever is one:-/)
The concern for building crews for long voyages is that between the confined space (traumatic to primates), the long term and the need to succeed (failure is not an option), the West seems to have decided collectively that only a well-balanced, dedicated and well adjusted crew could "make it" for several years.
To which I say, Balls.
Here's why. Buddhist meditation is all ANYONE needs to spend multiple years comfortably stowed away like living cargo, despite all fear, pain and unexpected influences (short of a meteorite through the head). Meditation can be done anywhere and costs nothing (particularly, calories, oxygen). Furthermore, it is a process which adds to the strength of the meditator.
I suppose that the Pentagon and others may balk at sending astronauts on a mission with orders to "meditate when you get stressed out" on the grounds that religion and science are *not* to be mixed. Not to mention, do you think prince dubya would want to send anything other than christians up there if he could? "God" forbid they get to mars and radio back, "God exists, and he's not a christian".
Sure, most of us Slashdotters would volunteer our lives for a one-way trip. All things considered, it seems obvious to me (with only about 6 months experience of research in meditation) that ANYONE properly guided in meditation could not only make the long cold confined trip, but also make it *comfortably*, quietly, and lose nothing of their dedication to teh mission.
In fact, the basis of law in not equality (as people like myself posit it should be), but in fact the basis of law is priviledge. And if you look at the roots of the word, privi-ledge, you get private-law. That is to say, those laws which are to be enforced must always be enforced unequally. If every law were enforced on every person, then we would find ourselves caught in the "That which is not prohibited is mandated, that which is not mandated is prohibited" situation (which presumably precludes either free-choice or free-dom).
So it's legal, yeah, as long as you're not in the wrong place at the wrong time, or have long hair, or holding a placard, or have the "wrong" skin color, or just plain weird out the cops.
Is it legal? Yeah, totally legal. Just don't get caught.
>>Are you thinking what I'm thinking, Pinky? >>I think so Brain, but how can we afford to get a router that can do 92 Tb/s? >>Pinky, what did I tell you about reading/. before we plot our schemes?
Issues like this, which inherently require double-think and open, honest debate are what Democracy resolves best. There ought to be a law, sure, and that law ought to be based on a bill which has made its way through all three branches AND PUBLIC REFERENDUM.
Without public acceptance this can only be a tool of a "gestapo" secret police. I'm not saying the FBI shouldn't exist. I'm saying that guardianship requires honest and competent debate in good faith, or else there WILL be problems and some might be drop-dead killer problems. After all, who wants to go to sleep each night wondering how much their "terrorist quotient" changed today, and in what way?
BTW, America is still free and will remain so as long as we the People remain certain in our right to be protected from unwarranted search and seizure. If we ever trade democratic freedom for the safety of an Autocratic police state, we're f*kt. (And as a democrat, I feel that Bush is angling for a police state every time I hear him ask me to "trust" him. He seems to gloss over the fact that he was not elected by a unanimous landslide. I don't trust Bush. And I won't until his spinmeisters stop telling me that it's "OK" because black is white... because black is not white.)
If it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, and you cut off it's head and there's a fully functional biological cranium, maybe it's not a clockwork toy resembling a duck and is in fact a duck.
PETER Don't worry, you only have seventy-five more to go. (holds up a card with three wavy lines) Okay, what's this one?
MALE STUDENT A couple of wavy lines.
PETER (who wants to zap him just for fun) Sorry! This isn't your lucky day!
MALE STUDENT I know. I - (PETER reaches for the little lever. JENNIFER seems amused, so PETER winks to her. MALE STUDENT stumbles over some words before PETER zaps him.) Hey! I'm getting a little tired of this!
PETER You volunteered, didn't you? We're paying you, aren't we?
MALE STUDENT Yeah, but I didn't know you were giving me electric shocks! What are you trying to prove here anyway?
PETER I'm studying the effect of negative reinforcement on ESP ability.
MALE STUDENT The effect?! I'll tell you what the effect is! It's pissing me off!
PETER Well, then maybe my theory is correct!
Who wants to help me predict the price of a share? (my method is shockingly effective! $5/study!;-)
First, you make a good point and I agree that such things are rampant.
Now in answer to your question: "Why is it that americans must make references to the american constitution and american laws when they talk about the internet? 90% of the planet doesn't give a flying fsck about american anything."
We do it for the same reason you asked your question. 90% of the planet may not give a flying Fsck, but we americans say everything with big brother looking over our shoulder. That's why we couch things in americanism, to allow Big Brother to understand it. Not to mention, maybe I was talking to my fellow americans? Don't forget that sometimes, you're listening to a truly american (polish/japanese/muslim/maori/etc) conversation and just 'cuz it's on the internet, you think it should be internationalized? maybe, but I don't think so.
further, specifically in my post, I was posting in a thread about an article written by an american newspaper. I posted it to slashdot, but I my primary target audience was the NYT people.. I wished they could see it as I do and so I posted what I posted. Although of course, the secondary audience is really the true primary.. If I was riled up enough to actually tell the NYT what I thought I'd have written a letter to the editor.
Sorry to sound so Nation centric... but it's not my fault i'm a patriotic person... blame the propaganda war. Hell, blame yourself.. have you ever uttered a sentence to another person which had no context, no negativity, and was without flaw? If so, congrats on your godhood.
>>You should have learned of Bugmenot by now! >>www.bugmenot.com is easy to use, grab the >>address where registration is needed, insert in >>window at Bugmenot, it gives you login name and >>password. the one Bugmenot had is Login: slashdot666 >>password: slashdot >>enjoy!
It's part of the natural dialectical process that the new cool kid on the block (us computer nerds and our hard-to-understand 50 We nerds should unionize. I'm not joking. Like MENSA but for slashdot surfing, beer loving, code-slinging geeks like you and me.
I'm not asking you to be with me. I'm asking Everyone to consider who they identify with.... their fellow nerd, or the Man serving, lie slinging spinmeisters who would rather see us be loyal to themselves before each other.
Think about it. Then flame the )(@#&%^ out of me, but don't forget what I said.
IRC isn't any different, really, than a web page or a video cast. It's all just bits. The reason NYT can't understand this isn't that they're dumb, it's that they're inherently journalists not technologists.
IRC isn't "where animal porn comes from", animal porn comes from people who like animal porn. Failure to apprehend this fact smacks of gross stupidity. IRC is just a chatroom. It's exactly the same as an AOL chatroom or an ICQ chatroom. The room isn't the place, the conversants are the place. Conversations can happen Anywhere. Plus our Constitution (you know, that thing Dubya keeps trying to shred) GARUANTEES us the right to free speech and peacable assembly. IRC is not some magical source of villainy, it's every streetcorner in America rolled into one blank page awaiting words.
IRC isn't the problem. People are the problem. And we already have the solution. It's called the code of law. Not that the law is always the best law, but my point is that IRC is neither good nor evil, merely a tool. People who realize this can take the proper step, which is to try to fight the problem not the symptom. People who don't realize this make total asses of themselves in very public fora.
"A witty saying proves nothing." - Voltaire "d'Oh!" - Homer
PS, I didn't RTFA because I'm too lazy. Did YOU rtfa?;-) Okay, then flame on, but please post a link without registration so I can rtfa and flame you back. One.
>> If you work more than 35 hours a week to make SOMEONE ELSE rich, you are a tool.
Maybe, IF you had the option to make yourself rich instead, but chose to make someone else rich then OK, that would make you a tool. But if you didn't have that option, or did but did not realize it, then you're ignorant or unlucky but not a tool. Maybe the point was that the machines are oiled with the blood of the workers?
>>Yeah, but it's HIS CHOICE to be a tool, if that's the choice he wants to make.
Exactly. Let's say I collect taxes for the IRS. I'm doing something for profit not fun, I'm definitely putting more cash into the hands of my superiors by magnitudes than they put into mine, yet I go to work anyway. Let's say this makes me a tool. Assuming thus, can I still be a good person and engage in the civic discourse without reservation? Excepting that I don't have an axe to grind with my employer, I posit that yes, a Tool can still be an active citizen. Of course we all know that a Tool can also be a raging @--#013 too.
>> It's a question of making the work environment at home more friendly to talent.
I agree. However in doing so I think the rub is that our economy has absorbed the lessons of the assembly line too well. The market for people who can think and act correctly without a cattle-prod against their neck to keep them "customer focused" has shrunk to virtually nil because managers are more comfortable with a drone than a man any day. Now that every position can be filled with a certified, graded and bonded drone, even CEO's are mindless. Only the true masters* retain their own mastery; all others owe fealty to whoever cuts the pay-check and that's where free will dies.
Brain drain is just a symptom. As we enter the fourth age, our society is temporarily forgetting its "self" in favor of the perceived "necessities".
My point is that a labor market that crystalized around replacability has lost/is losing it's ability to keep itself fresh new and young with regard to ideas and minds. Ie, you can hire all the cool geeky Stanford MBA's in the world, but you can't force them to be as creative as Woz. Only God can create a Woz. And you can't emulate Woz no matter how many degrees you have unless you *already*have* that kind of beingness.
*People like Warren Buffet and Bill Gates and Dick Cheney.
>>It won't be long until we see some overclocking utilities now.
Parent may have been in jest, but I think comment should be modded interesting: The brain of an infant is mostly spare parts (some of the brain is hardwired but most of it is just "extra" brain cells (plus we barely understand the brain compared to how much we understand the body.. b.i.d.)) therefore perhaps we really could develop a training regimen which would allow the "cache" to appropriate more "hardware" (neurons) to effectively "upgrade" the "cache"....
I am not a neuroscientist, I am not a psychologist, I am just a humble nerd, talking to fellow nerds.
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Well, it's nice to know that a multi-billion dollar empire can follow where a teenager has boldy gone. ;)
"No officer, I didn't see any pink elephants, but that polka-dot rhinocerous scared the sh*t out of me."
Btw good question.
Good point. Didn't realize I came of so haughty sounding. FWIW, I Am Not "Elite".
Man creates computer, internet.
Intelligent, misunderstood youths discover internet, realize they've been lied to, strung along, generally mistreated. Youths show the guts and brains to learn without teachers.
Feds discover internet, realize there are children smarter and more skilled than them, throw beauracratic temper-tantrum, track down said kids (well, some of 'em) and bust them, refuse leniency.
Feds realize this "internet thingy" is more important than they though, and worse, there are kids in other countries who not only have mad skillz, but also actively hate america. Feds shit bricks.
Gov't, realizing it has cut off it's left testicle, tries to fill the gap with "Ethical hackers", ie, tries to create what it had in the first place.
Jeezus F Kryst on a surfboard, why didn't you just train the @#(*&^*(@# hackers in ethics in the first place? You can't teach curiosity, autodidactism or problem solving.
Nature laughs, goes back to being inscrutable.
Way to go.
Wow, you are really humorless. BTW, asshat, I made that insight when I was 16. You must be a real big man, to see the logical phallacy in a joke. Woo Woo! I ph34r your asshat-5kills!
>>It's impossible, even in the absurd event of unstimulated parthenogenesis, for a male to be born this way. Sorry to just blow a big huge hole in your weak arguement, but if you make arguements as dumb as this you should expect it to happen.
Dude, grow up. The whole world isn't a catholic convent, ya know. Oh yeah, just what argument do you presume I was making? Hmm? I don't recall making one at all. Wow, you religious freaks are really volatile when your faith comes into question, aren't you? Fucktard. Get a clue, or at least take a class. Fuck you! :)
One last thing, god-boy, what if anything do you have to say about the other posts, re: translations of the Bible? Oh, nothing huh. That's what I thought. Apologies to non-asshats (that doesn't mean you, bahamutherf*cker.)
obligatory
Of course, I had the same thought about the "miraculous virgin birth" when I learned about parthenogenesis.
The concern for building crews for long voyages is that between the confined space (traumatic to primates), the long term and the need to succeed (failure is not an option), the West seems to have decided collectively that only a well-balanced, dedicated and well adjusted crew could "make it" for several years.
To which I say, Balls.
Here's why. Buddhist meditation is all ANYONE needs to spend multiple years comfortably stowed away like living cargo, despite all fear, pain and unexpected influences (short of a meteorite through the head). Meditation can be done anywhere and costs nothing (particularly, calories, oxygen). Furthermore, it is a process which adds to the strength of the meditator.
I suppose that the Pentagon and others may balk at sending astronauts on a mission with orders to "meditate when you get stressed out" on the grounds that religion and science are *not* to be mixed. Not to mention, do you think prince dubya would want to send anything other than christians up there if he could? "God" forbid they get to mars and radio back, "God exists, and he's not a christian".
Sure, most of us Slashdotters would volunteer our lives for a one-way trip. All things considered, it seems obvious to me (with only about 6 months experience of research in meditation) that ANYONE properly guided in meditation could not only make the long cold confined trip, but also make it *comfortably*, quietly, and lose nothing of their dedication to teh mission.
Are you listening, NASA?
In fact, the basis of law in not equality (as people like myself posit it should be), but in fact the basis of law is priviledge. And if you look at the roots of the word, privi-ledge, you get private-law. That is to say, those laws which are to be enforced must always be enforced unequally. If every law were enforced on every person, then we would find ourselves caught in the "That which is not prohibited is mandated, that which is not mandated is prohibited" situation (which presumably precludes either free-choice or free-dom).
So it's legal, yeah, as long as you're not in the wrong place at the wrong time, or have long hair, or holding a placard, or have the "wrong" skin color, or just plain weird out the cops.
Is it legal? Yeah, totally legal. Just don't get caught.
Okay, well please accept my apology, and also, please don't call me a racist. :)
>>Are you thinking what I'm thinking, Pinky? /. before we plot our schemes?
>>I think so Brain, but how can we afford to get a router that can do 92 Tb/s?
>>Pinky, what did I tell you about reading
B!=W (what I said)
and
(black person) != (white person) [what you implied I said].
Grow up, get a better sense of humor, or deal with your demons. I am not a racist. You sir, are a philistine.
Without public acceptance this can only be a tool of a "gestapo" secret police. I'm not saying the FBI shouldn't exist. I'm saying that guardianship requires honest and competent debate in good faith, or else there WILL be problems and some might be drop-dead killer problems. After all, who wants to go to sleep each night wondering how much their "terrorist quotient" changed today, and in what way?
BTW, America is still free and will remain so as long as we the People remain certain in our right to be protected from unwarranted search and seizure. If we ever trade democratic freedom for the safety of an Autocratic police state, we're f*kt. (And as a democrat, I feel that Bush is angling for a police state every time I hear him ask me to "trust" him. He seems to gloss over the fact that he was not elected by a unanimous landslide. I don't trust Bush. And I won't until his spinmeisters stop telling me that it's "OK" because black is white... because black is not white.)
I never said I was a centrist.
If it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, and you cut off it's head and there's a fully functional biological cranium, maybe it's not a clockwork toy resembling a duck and is in fact a duck.
Don't worry, you only have seventy-five more to go. (holds up a card with three wavy lines)
Okay, what's this one?
MALE STUDENT
A couple of wavy lines.
PETER
(who wants to zap him just for fun) Sorry! This isn't your lucky day!
MALE STUDENT
I know. I -
(PETER reaches for the little lever. JENNIFER seems amused, so PETER winks to her. MALE STUDENT stumbles over some words before PETER zaps him.)
Hey! I'm getting a little tired of this!
PETER
You volunteered, didn't you? We're paying you, aren't we?
MALE STUDENT
Yeah, but I didn't know you were giving me electric shocks! What are you trying to prove here anyway?
PETER
I'm studying the effect of negative reinforcement on ESP ability.
MALE STUDENT
The effect?! I'll tell you what the effect is! It's pissing me off!
PETER
Well, then maybe my theory is correct!
Who wants to help me predict the price of a share? (my method is shockingly effective! $5/study! ;-)
"I bid him look into the lives of men as though into a mirror, and from others to take an example for himself." ~Publius Terentius Afer
If you gaze into an abyss, the abyss looks also into thee.
Now in answer to your question: "Why is it that americans must make references to the american constitution and american laws when they talk about the internet? 90% of the planet doesn't give a flying fsck about american anything."
We do it for the same reason you asked your question. 90% of the planet may not give a flying Fsck, but we americans say everything with big brother looking over our shoulder. That's why we couch things in americanism, to allow Big Brother to understand it. Not to mention, maybe I was talking to my fellow americans? Don't forget that sometimes, you're listening to a truly american (polish/japanese/muslim/maori/etc) conversation and just 'cuz it's on the internet, you think it should be internationalized? maybe, but I don't think so.
further, specifically in my post, I was posting in a thread about an article written by an american newspaper. I posted it to slashdot, but I my primary target audience was the NYT people.. I wished they could see it as I do and so I posted what I posted. Although of course, the secondary audience is really the true primary.. If I was riled up enough to actually tell the NYT what I thought I'd have written a letter to the editor.
Sorry to sound so Nation centric... but it's not my fault i'm a patriotic person... blame the propaganda war. Hell, blame yourself.. have you ever uttered a sentence to another person which had no context, no negativity, and was without flaw? If so, congrats on your godhood.
>>You should have learned of Bugmenot by now!
>>www.bugmenot.com is easy to use, grab the
>>address where registration is needed, insert in
>>window at Bugmenot, it gives you login name and
>>password. the one Bugmenot had is Login: slashdot666
>>password: slashdot
>>enjoy!
Thanks!
It's part of the natural dialectical process that the new cool kid on the block (us computer nerds and our hard-to-understand 50 We nerds should unionize. I'm not joking. Like MENSA but for slashdot surfing, beer loving, code-slinging geeks like you and me.
I'm not asking you to be with me. I'm asking Everyone to consider who they identify with.... their fellow nerd, or the Man serving, lie slinging spinmeisters who would rather see us be loyal to themselves before each other.
Think about it. Then flame the )(@#&%^ out of me, but don't forget what I said.
IRC isn't "where animal porn comes from", animal porn comes from people who like animal porn. Failure to apprehend this fact smacks of gross stupidity. IRC is just a chatroom. It's exactly the same as an AOL chatroom or an ICQ chatroom. The room isn't the place, the conversants are the place. Conversations can happen Anywhere. Plus our Constitution (you know, that thing Dubya keeps trying to shred) GARUANTEES us the right to free speech and peacable assembly. IRC is not some magical source of villainy, it's every streetcorner in America rolled into one blank page awaiting words.
IRC isn't the problem. People are the problem. And we already have the solution. It's called the code of law. Not that the law is always the best law, but my point is that IRC is neither good nor evil, merely a tool. People who realize this can take the proper step, which is to try to fight the problem not the symptom. People who don't realize this make total asses of themselves in very public fora.
"A witty saying proves nothing." - Voltaire
"d'Oh!" - Homer
PS, I didn't RTFA because I'm too lazy. Did YOU rtfa? ;-) Okay, then flame on, but please post a link without registration so I can rtfa and flame you back. One.
Marketing?
Maybe, IF you had the option to make yourself rich instead, but chose to make someone else rich then OK, that would make you a tool. But if you didn't have that option, or did but did not realize it, then you're ignorant or unlucky but not a tool. Maybe the point was that the machines are oiled with the blood of the workers?
>>Yeah, but it's HIS CHOICE to be a tool, if that's the choice he wants to make.
Exactly. Let's say I collect taxes for the IRS. I'm doing something for profit not fun, I'm definitely putting more cash into the hands of my superiors by magnitudes than they put into mine, yet I go to work anyway. Let's say this makes me a tool. Assuming thus, can I still be a good person and engage in the civic discourse without reservation? Excepting that I don't have an axe to grind with my employer, I posit that yes, a Tool can still be an active citizen. Of course we all know that a Tool can also be a raging @--#013 too.
I agree. However in doing so I think the rub is that our economy has absorbed the lessons of the assembly line too well. The market for people who can think and act correctly without a cattle-prod against their neck to keep them "customer focused" has shrunk to virtually nil because managers are more comfortable with a drone than a man any day. Now that every position can be filled with a certified, graded and bonded drone, even CEO's are mindless. Only the true masters* retain their own mastery; all others owe fealty to whoever cuts the pay-check and that's where free will dies.
Brain drain is just a symptom. As we enter the fourth age, our society is temporarily forgetting its "self" in favor of the perceived "necessities".
My point is that a labor market that crystalized around replacability has lost/is losing it's ability to keep itself fresh new and young with regard to ideas and minds. Ie, you can hire all the cool geeky Stanford MBA's in the world, but you can't force them to be as creative as Woz. Only God can create a Woz. And you can't emulate Woz no matter how many degrees you have unless you *already*have* that kind of beingness.
*People like Warren Buffet and Bill Gates and Dick Cheney.
6. Profit!
Please, restrict your comments on Google's IPO to that thread.
8}
Parent may have been in jest, but I think comment should be modded interesting: The brain of an infant is mostly spare parts (some of the brain is hardwired but most of it is just "extra" brain cells (plus we barely understand the brain compared to how much we understand the body.. b.i.d.)) therefore perhaps we really could develop a training regimen which would allow the "cache" to appropriate more "hardware" (neurons) to effectively "upgrade" the "cache"....
I am not a neuroscientist, I am not a psychologist, I am just a humble nerd, talking to fellow nerds.
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