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Evan Williams Posts Official Google Blog
Luis F. Escalante writes "Evan, creator of Blogger, owned by Google, finally convinced Larry, Sergey and Co. to start up a blog. According to Evan's first post, we'll soon be able to know "What Larry had for breakfast. What Sergey thinks of that Hellboy movie. Which Dawson's Creek character reminds us most of Eric.""
So, what did Larry have for breakfast?
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Google - stick to your core business. Please. I would hate to see you suck.
..why people think blogs are so cool, when they obviously aren't?
This way to the egress...
What the ... the first time I actually go read the article, and there's a mere promise of real content.
Nothing but the finest in meaningless drivel
I'd much rather see how he and those other smart folks designed & "thought of" all those cool services in the first place. I could care less what kind of breakfast he eats, unless he brews his coffee with a Mr. Fusion.
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how interesting.. ! just what i wanted as i have tons of time to read about others stupid blogs ... ..ohh and please dont forget to mention how many times he farted.
That would make my day !
~~~~~ rudga ~~~~~
...thftp! who cares!?
Interesting. No wait, the other thing - tedious.
Will there be a google cache if it gets slashdotted?
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I really hope this provides us (web developers) with some insights on how google works and evolves so we can make sure good sites end up in the top results
I know GoogleGuy has been making some posts on webmasterworld and in the google newsgroups, but this is a more "official" source and I have allready added it to my feedreader since this afternoon (4 hours ago)
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unless he brews his coffee with a Mr. Fusion.
Broogle?
Bloogle
Glog
Gooble
Gooblog
Any others?
What Larry had for breakfast. What Sergey thinks of that Hellboy movie. Which Dawson's Creek character reminds us most of Eric.
I'd be much more interested to know where the last few tweaks for the latest algorithm update came from, or what kind of servers they'll be upgrading to in the next few weeks. Their personal lives are of little consequence to Google or anyone involved with them.
BLING BLING. Meet the architecture that's changing everything.
Oh.. wait...
"We may face a scorched and lifeless earth, but they're accountable to their shareholders first."
Of course, IANAMW - I am not a market weenie. My money's in CDs...
RinkRat
"What Larry had for breakfast. What Sergey thinks of that Hellboy movie. Which Dawson's Creek character reminds us most of Eric."
So much for the IPO quiet period.
As I write this there are NO references to Evan Williams, the cheap whiskey.
What gives?
-Peter
More shit I dont want to read to clog up my google results.
Seriously, why cant we have a "blog" flag or something, so I can filter that stuff out of google searches? It's really annoying when I'm trying to research a problem and get nothing but other people ranting about the same problem..
Blogs are very rarely female supermodels with nude pics and lurid descriptions of their sexual fantasies.
Something in robots.txt that says "unlikely that anyone gives a rats ass"?
I don't need no instructions to know how to rock!!!!
I wonder if this new blog has anything to do with the long anticipated new version of Blogger rolling out on May 5th? After all, Blogger is owned by Google.
Nah, it's probably just a coincidence.
i have never really thought of "blogs" as anything more than an angelefire page by a 12 year old girl with all kinds of stupid graphics and dead links to lame shit. Only there are more words.
A few weeks ago, I changed my website over to WordPress in an attempt to make it into an interactive news site discussing nothing remotlely related to computers and so absolutly nothing like slashdot. Ie, the news would be relevent to the real world. However, my lame friends and collegues are all a bunch of slackers, i am the only one who ever posts, and i fear it is just a bunch of rantings agaisnt Muslims and Democrats with not real value at all.
This admission is merely to keep me from sounding like a hypocryte when inevitably, someone reads this post and clicks my link.
That said, blogs are the worst piece of crap ever. They are even worse than Windows. Bloggers should all go to hell and die. I am concidering looking into a new format for my website... right now, I am just counting down until next January when my domain registration lets up, and I can get one that is less confrontational (An Réabhlóid meaning "The Revolution" in Irish Gaelige) and give myself some leeway in the kind of content I can put on it, if I even decide to get a new site at all.
Like I said, Bloggers suck and blogs suck and therefor I suck.
Seriously. It's rare to see a blog without the word "blog" on the page somewhere. Works pretty well.
- Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set him on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
This is great news!
I mean - uhm..
What?
er... wait. They don't mean Evan Williams as in Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey?
ahem. nevermind.
It's kind of weird that there are no names on the posts unless people "sign" them (as Evan did, but as the second poster did not). Who knows if that's a marketing wonk or the real person.
A lot of times when we're brainstorming ideas, we start with "It would be cool if we could
"It really pisses me off that they do it this way! Why can't they
This is actually taught in some inventor/entrepreneur classes these days.
see above
This ain't typical of Google's response time. Perhaps because the pigeons were in unfamiliar territory. I sure hope we're not gonna see every update to this blog as a /. frontpage.
I have a heuristic for determining if a particular blog is a good idea. Try to picture it as a radio show. Would you watch a show about google? (Here's Larry paging out, Sergey will swap in after these messages).
That's cool, as long as they don't start posting dark poetry.
Hear hear!
"Blogs"* have potential. Currently they are utterly disgusting because the whole thing regarding blogs and journals is ruined by boring people forcing their dull lives down our throats. Fortunately, the technology regarding journals is good and there have been some very good journals around. Now tell me, what's more interesting? A boring rand( 12, 50 ) year old (emo|goth|depressed) tosser from randomCity() ranting on about randomSubject() or having the creators of Google shed some light on the technical insides of Google? What about a journal where some people keep track of major (OS) projects? Gives one a view into what was considered during design, what was dropped, why it was dropped, what problems were encountered and so on. Even if you don't make your journals public, they'd make GREAT referrence material to improve oneself upon. After all, you learn the most from your own mistakes and if you can review the entire process instead of just the mistake itself, it ought to be more helpful.
* ... Change of name please. Blogs will forever be stained by the stupidity that is currently infecting them. That, and whoever made that word up should be hung, shot, burned, quartered and then REALLY hurt.
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'Blooger'
I hate blogs. Why must everyone in the world think their thoughts are a veritable goldmine of entertainment? I don't get it. :-\
What is your penile percentile?
You should check out blogs.msdn.com if your interested in stuff like this.
Especially interesting is Chris Pratley's web log. He's got some great posts on the history of Word, the Open Source movement and other fun stuff.
Quick, change the SEC filing to $21 billion.
...that we'll start seeing "RTFB" comments?
<insert witty linux comment here>
here is the google cache.
Oh, wait. Nevermind.
We're in the information overload age. People, get a clue. We need to refine our content and make it worth reading, not spew endlessly hoping it'll be useful to someone. I'm much more interested in the few words that someone wise has to say than the 1000s of words that the average masses has to say.
Of course... By posting this message to slashdot, I may have just killed my own notion of it's pointless to post stupid rambling thoughts.
The next site to slashdot will be ready soon, but subscribers can beat the rush and start slashdotting it early!
Originally he said something like, "But when we opened an office in Balgalore, suddenly we were knee-deep in the debate about outsourcing." They must have asked him to change it. Does anyone have the original blog item in their cache? I'd be interested to read it again, and compare!
If you still get the odd drooler slipping through with their rants. Until I figured out your trick, Google became unusable because of cross-linked and linkbombed blogs.
Comparing it to Windows will be a moot point, since El Dorado is going to have a 40% larger code base than XP.
What a bunch of loosers... pathetic for /. to even post this
First reality TV.. then BLOGS... next are blogs of blogs!
Today I made yet another entry to my BLOG. It was an especially interesting post since I was unusually candid today specifically in regards to my feelings on pudding skins--"useful or nuisance?"...
Blogs are about as interesting as a web site done by a guy in a trailor park... except they don't even have the really cool pictures of "stuff you can be duct tape". :(
How many flies does it take to screw in a light bulb?
TWO!
May 11, 2004
Opened up an office in Zurich, interviewing people.
McDonald's new chicken mcnuggets are actually pretty good
May 22, 2004
Worked very late today; also helped admin move some machines to the new location; local sandwich shop brought some roast beef po-boys
June 11, 2004
Our IPO went off today; stock jumped to $67/share; That new blonde we hired in the front office has begun flirting with me shamelessly.
July 27, 2004
Wolfgang Puck showed up in the offices today and made my favorite: Lobster & Truffle bisque with caviar. Though the Lobsters were only four pounders, I'll let it go this time.
Stupid contractors have missed another deadline for installing the penguin-shaped jacuzzi in the east wing. This is getting frustrating.
August 3, 2004
Got my new Lambourghini in and someone scuffed the ivory-trimmed dashboard! I'm having the dealership fire the salesguy and promise to deliver a new car within a week or I'll cancel the order for the Hummer as well.
August 4, 2004
Quit Google. Joined the World Poker Tour.
+1 Funny, mod parent up
Woe be on to them, all who rise against poor people, shall perish in a the end. Buju Banton
I'd much rather see how he and those other smart folks designed & "thought of" all those cool services in the first place. I could care less what kind of breakfast he eats, unless he brews his coffee with a Mr. Fusion.
Ah, yes, you see - he could tell you that, but then he'd have to kill you.
Goggle is finding out what Yahoo found out with Geocities - don't invest too much in last year's fad.
What if I'm searching for "post hole digging" you insensitive clod!?!
no, like all the other reality checks regarding blogs on this article, you are contributing thoughts, which is something that blogs are against.
I thought I was the only one who thought blogs are an utter wastes of time/effort.
Oh, right. Google/Blogger has picked sides in the feed format war.
What a shame.
Java is the blue pill
Choose the red pill
Though I really, really, could not care any less who is going to start a blog about what, this article has made me happy. I honestly thought I was one of very few people in the world who relize that 99.9999% of blogs are exercises in ego masturbation worthy of naught but mockery. Now I know better and am a happier person. Thank you slashdot!
Insight into the news, technology, and culture of Google.
Monday, May 10, 2004
Going out of our way to find the right people.
When we announced the opening of our engineering office in Zurich, a lot of Europeans seemed pleased about the possibility of working for Google without a commute to California. Zurich draws Italians, French, Swiss, Germans, and other Europeans, and is easier to reach from most parts of the continent than the Amphitheatre Parkway exit off highway 101.
Interestingly, when we announced our engineering center in Bangalore, we found ourselves knee-deep in the debate about "outsourcing" -- the practice of cutting a company's American operations in favor of cheaper labor elsewhere. India in particular has been a subject of a lot of press coverage on this topic lately, which we find to be pretty unfair. It's not their fault they have a lot of brilliant computer scientists who don't care to relocate to the States.
We recognize that talented engineers live in every time zone, not just Silicon Valley. That's fine with us, because when it comes to solving technical problems Google benefits from global perspectives, as well as a diversity of languages and working hours. We're not shipping jobs overseas, we're accommodating people we want to hire who don't feel like uprooting their lives, even for Charlie's cooking.
So, if you're looking for a place to plug into Google, we're trying to make it easy for you. We're looking for talented software engineers, top programmers and visionary computer scientists to tackle everything from distributed systems and information retrieval to algorithms, UI, and scalability challenges. And of course to unplug the lava lamps occasionally so they don't overheat.
So, whether you're in the market for a challenging engineering position in Mountain View or our new Tokyo office, or somewhere really out of this world, we hope you'll look us up.
Posted @ 3:30 PM / Permanent Link
Parent is a IBYAB post.
As in I'd Buy You A Beer post. Feel free to use this acronym when you come across a post that you totally agree with or sympathise with and you can't think of anything else to say except 'Man, if you were in my area I'd buy you a beer'.
Remember folks, IBYAB!
Mother, do you think they'll like this sig?
Drill baby drill - on Mars
Of course, the main reason I'd want to set up a blog is in the futile hope that I would get to try the Gmail beta :]
What? It's not like I honestly think that anyone cares about what I ate for breakfast; 99% of blogs (if not more...) are simply not worth reading.
Then you might find this interesting:
The Connection's AntiBlog episode
The Mother Jones article
Its mostly on political blogging. I listened to it earlier today, but did not have enough time to do a quality article submission.
Dogma - "let's just say we'd like to avoid any empirical entanglements."
The reaction of the people to these two abnormally successful engineers is tantamount to a cult of personality, no different in function than that surrounding Stalin.
Who the fuck cares? Look, I know that we have plenty of fifteen year-old girls who cannot live a day without being updated with the latest information about J. Lo and Britney Spears. Also, there are plenty of geeks who complain about people giving too much crap about celebrities; however, rants stop when it comes to influential people in the tech. field.
Do you really care what somebody eats for breakfast? No, really? Are you that fucking bored out of your mind that you're willing to waste electrons and your time to read about how somebody famous deals with everyday life? Jesus, get a fucking live and do something productive.
Well, if you don't really have anything going on in your own head, I supose you would want to see what kind of dribble someone else has in theirs.
If google is so keen on controlling so much internet information, the blog thing, the eMail thing, the search engine thing, why not offer a free webhosting service?
If they can spare 1Gb for free eMail, i'm sure they could operate a quality webhosting service.
here :)
I could not find RSS feed for this blog. That sucks!
I read all blogs via RSS reader - no time to check 200+ pages daily.
I'd much rather see his checking account statment !
I can't wait for the Googleblog slashbox, that would be handy.
From the Google Blog, "[need employees] to unplug the lava lamps occasionally so they don't overheat. " A job I could actually do, and work for Google at the same time!
You do realise that you don't have to read a particular LiveJournal don't you? Nothing is forced down your throat. How on earth does this ruin things?
;)
If you are using LiveJournal to read entries of random people from randomCity() ranting about randomSubject(), then you are completely missing the point. I read LiveJournals of my friends (or possibly, some random person if I've found them to be particularly interesting, but certainly not people I find to be boring) - if you have friends, you should read their LiveJournals
It would be like saying Slashdot is a load of crap, because who wants to read a load of boring (geek|nerd) "tossers" ranting on about random things.
Fortunately, the technology regarding journals is good
Yes, as you say yourself, the technology is good, and this is independant of what people use it for. When people use LiveJournal to document technical things (as some people do), how does that fit into your view of blogs and journals?
I wonder if they will write about their daily yummy free lunches that are served at google?
If anything, a free lunch is a good reason to work there!
Larry, Curley, and Moe?
Discuss.
I wonder what I can do to get my blog on slashdot.
It's like, my life would finally be interesting. Many people reading and commenting must mean it's interesting, right?
My photolog
whole thing regarding blogs and journals is ruined by boring people forcing their dull lives down our throats
LOL... I love you people. Forcing it down your throat? You're telling me somebody is holding a gun to your head, forcing you to read other people's blogs?
You know what: I've never read a blog. I don't care, so I don't read. You do have that choice, you know...
-Ryan, with the unoriginal sig
At first glance I thought this had something to do with Evan Williams Kentucky Bourbon.
Thanks for reminding me to hit the liquor store on the way home.
But not all blogs are journals. Some, like boingboing and memepool post interesting links with brief commentary. And don't forget Roland P.'s Technology Trends. By reading these blogs, I can find out about cool new stuff hours before it reaches Slashdot, and weeks before it hits the regular media.
Basically, blogs help me refine online content and figure out what's worth reading.
Your fantasies contain the seeds of important concepts.
Just watch out for the new Google link redirector. (It's demonstrated in the blog entry...)
Mod down this story!!!
I've found that my posts don't format quite right w/o a sig.
Said by someone posting on a blog.
Google's first All Bukkake discussion forum!
Waiting out an overvalued IPO; goofy news stories about the valley; the cult of the CEO.
I tell you, do the whole thing over again, Flooz and all. People are dumb enough to fall for the whole kit and kaboodle over again.
I would call /. an "active discussion" whereas a blog is simply the random thoughts associated with one or two (or three or..) random people who you've never met. At elast here we're discussing news/tech stuff and not just posting about how our closet-homosexual boss made a pass at us.
What is your penile percentile?
You're a java programmer, aren't you?
"When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back!" -- Cave Johnson
Is it that obvious? :(
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IMHO, 97% (or whatever high percentage) of anything that is popular is going to be crap, that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with the medium. Most of the songs on mp3.com for instance were shit but mp3.com was cool resource that turned up interesting artists from time to time. I think the blog scene could be looked at in the same way.
You do realize that slashdot is a blog, right? Journal entries, check. Comments, check. That's pretty much all we have here...except for the community, of course.
And if you counter that slashdot is a news site, look at all the editorializing that goes on in the posts/articles. Plus if you just read slashdot for the comments, you're basically reading folks who think their thoughts are important enough to be read by your eyes.
I am in full agreement with you. I don't really care what you had for breakfast, sorry.
But it's clear that there's a large subset of the population that cares what Britney Spears had for breakfast. Look at all the folks who watch celebrity gossip, obsess over the lives of their idols, etc. We've even seen new idols created in front of our eyes (Survivor, The Apprentice, American Idol, et al), and I think that we're seeing much of the same with blogs. Check out some of the more popular blogs and I'm sure you'll find the same kind of pattern.
who the heck would even care what I think
But yet, you post to Slashdot....
How many slashes would a slashdot dot, if a slashdot could dot slashes?
Whoop-de-frikkin' do. About as interesting as analyzing the contents of Cowboy Neal's copious turds.
the reason that "seth" is posting my lj as an example is because when we recently decided that we were tired of trying to be friends and putting up with each other's crap (after a misguided, and immature "internet relationship" over a year ago), he decided to be a spiteful little prick. the point is that he, though older than me, is even more immature in this stupid "post" of his, than all of my teenage crap that i rant about in the journal that i mistakenly gave him the link to. "seth"-no one's forcing you to do anything, i sent the link out as a group email to the people i considered my friends at the time. if you have anything bad to say about me (though i thought we weren't going to waste our time on each other anymore... are you mad that i blocked you?), please say it on something that i actually read, so that i don't have to get a link from an anonymous source to a post in which you are talking shit about me and posting my journal for everyone to, as i'm sure you hoped by the nature of this post, ridicule. thank you.
You go girl. Tell that whiny bitch who's boss :)
You don't understand. When information is allowed to flow freely ideas abound. Sure, there are thousands and thousands of people who write about who they're dating and what color dress they're wearing to the movies tonight, but occasional you come across people that have ideas. Real ideas, good ideas. I don't think it's the information overload, as in the true meaning of it being excessive. Unrefined yes. Blogs are like slightly-refined brainstorming activities.
The dissemination of information is freedom and is one of the rights we hold dearly.
...that's right, chumps! Time to welcome your new Editorial Overlords!!!
Breakfast served all day!
Wow, somebody got the smack-down...
[ mood | chipper ] :P ]
[ music | some song from
winnie-the-pooh
what is technically the difference between medieval and renaissance? brandon and i are renting costumes for prom, and i'm looking on the site of a place near up that has really cheap, pretty good looking costumes, but the one i'm looking at for me is in one category, and the one i think brandon would look good in is in the other
hahah, shit damn you for making me laugh. It was almost as good as reading other famous psuedo-journals like Aliester Crowley's. Yeah sure, jesus man how the hell did you find that damn page?
An Education is the Font of All Liberty
According to Evan's first post, we'll soon be able to know "What Larry had for breakfast. What Sergey thinks of that Hellboy movie. Which Dawson's Creek character reminds us most of Eric."
Slashdot, be prepared to hand over the tagline "News for nerds, stuff that matters"!!
Even if that's a forgery, and not the real owner of the journal (the /. account is new with only this one message logged) there's truth to what is being said there.
Please don't troll this person's journal, no matter how uncool or lame or whatever it appears to you. It probably is someone the OP has a personal grudge against for some reason - otherwise why be so specific as to link to it?
I simply linked to it because I had the link. Why look for another journal when I already got a good example? No trolling or personal crap is involved in this; it's just a simple example of the current state of most journals/blogs.
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How are they "forcing their dull lives down our throats" exactly? I don't see anyone holding a gun to your head, making you visit and read LiveJournal every day. Just because a blog is not chok full of technical details about project-x-gnu-1.16b.tar.gz doesn't mean that it's worthless to everyone, even if it is worthless to you.
I have several friends who post on LiveJournal and I enjoy their blogs very much. In fact, some of the randomSubject() posts have been so insightful that I feel as though I've learned a thing or two about life from them. No, I don't read every day, nor do I have time to do so, but I appreciate their being willing to share a little of themselves with those who are interested (i.e. their friends).
I also keep a blog, though it isn't at LiveJournal. But at LiveJournal or not, I'm not forcing it down your throat any more than anyone else. Why do I keep a blog? Well, it started out as a way to rant online about a girlfriend who dumped me many years ago now. This was before "blogs" were a genre and it was basically an HTML page that I'd edit every couple of days. Why should anyone care? They shouldn't. But I did; it was an avenue of self expression.
As time went by, I realized that it was helpful to me to be able to go back and read my own "entries" and see what I was doing on a given day, what I was thinking, how I was feeling... You forget things about yourself as the months and years pass, and it's more helpful than you'd imagine to be able to re-visit where you've been, without blinders or rose-colored glasses on.
So now I keep a blog proper and I make entries fairly regularly. It's a kind of diary that I can access, read from, and write to, in any part of the world, without having to carry a book and a pen with me and without having to worry whether or not the book will get stolen or soaked in coffee, or...
And yes, my friends read my blog as well, and it turns out to be a nice forum for interpersonal communication when a phone call doesn't seem lightweight enough.
STOP . AMERICA . NOW
i'm just going to say that i don't care who believes me or not, but what i said earlier was true, and i am the person i claim to be (hence the new account, because i wanted to make myself known instead of posting anonymously). "seth" is a dick and a liar, and thank you to those of you who see through his bullshit. he just doesn't have the balls to admit the fact that he only posted my journal because i finally got tired of his bipolar, psycho bullshit and told him off. i got tired of having to walk on eggshells to try to preserve a "friendship" that didn't deserve the effort, and finally told him so, so this is his pathetic version of revenge. and to those of you who feel the need to troll my journal (though the only rude comment i've gotten so far sounded an awful lot like seth himself), go for it, that's why i have a "delete comment" option. :)
Many blogs have active discussions about news, technology, politics and any number of special interest and professional areas. They're not all teen angst, boring job, random thought livejournals. Sure 90% of weblogs are crap, but 90% of everything is crap.
Why is anything anything?
I stand above your simple name-calling insults, your lies and your false accusations.
Furthermore, I wasn't trolling you. Your journal reminded me of the typical journals I come across, hence I used it as an example, partially because I already had the link to it. If you insist on taking it as a personal insult and/or a troll though, be my guest. It's not like I give a damn.
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