I like that they put the comments from the person who submitted the article up there. However they should at least ask the person who submitted it if they can edit TOTALLY inaccurate information that's in it. I've seen this happen several times before, and sadly somewhat more frequently as of late, I don't mind if it could possibly be a judgment call or posed as the submitters opinion (even if it is way off). However outright stating that something is in the article that is not in the article just is disappointing coming from/.
Now granted it would seem Mr. Metcaclf has of "some" of his facts wrong here. However I wonder if he was right fundamentally if it would be that big of a deal? It would be nice if everyone who contributed to the open source movement would release software in that manner, but if you support OSS must ALL of your software be so? First of all Linus works for this company and doesn't run it (that I'm aware of), I have several friends who work on OSS software in their spare time but work for a commercial company who (like most) don't release their code. So should they quit, find another job, perhaps have to move their families and such? I'd say no. Secondly lets say that he did own the company. Would this be the end of the world? Mr. T releases some code that's not OSS. So what? It's sad but often it seems that some more vocal advocates of the OSS movement has become somewhat more "harsh and angry" and implies that all software must be OSS, ignoring the fact that people still are free in many of the countries of the world. I wonder if that helps or hurts as the movement moves into the general public's eyes in the future. Now granted many of the OSS movement are perfectly nice people, but some seem to have taken on an angry feel and that worries me. However if this were true, and Mr. T had control if the software is OSS or not, and he didn't release it as such, is that so bad? I'd still think he was an alright guy, I wouldn't like it, but it's his choice. If he wanted to make some $ working for a company that interests him and that doesn't release it's software, no biggie to me.
I've never really thought of that adage that way, that sadly makes sense here. Thus the Jessie Bersts of the world and such I guess, and perhaps JK above (he's had a few very disappointing technical errors in the past). Those writing often seem to be not busy (and perhaps should be) with other things, mainly with what their writing about. A sad little fact leading to some critical errors that I've seen in many articles by "those who teach." One problem I often see is the fact that the writers often do not stop to explain what they're writing about, or if they do they do it poorly or incorrectly. Probably because some of them aren't "those ho can."
I sympathize with your situation in your LUG, I often leave people who ask for my help on their own to learn the hard way rather than interrupt my own projects.
I wish I did. I find a good writer with a technical clue now and then but few that write regular columns that I'm aware of. I figure either that there are very few of them out there, or that they get very little exposure with other people taking their place who are "less technically inclined" (being polite).
Thanks for the URL! It would be nice to have a few more people like that regularly on/. Having someone like Katz is nice, but really it seems that the "discussion" after his articles are becoming stale and repetitive. The lack of technical ability in most of the media seems to generate the same responses to many articles posted. It would be nice to have some regulars that are more technical posting too.
The popularity of the "Ask Jon Katz" article got me thinking. While I often totally disagree with Katz on a ton of things, I don't have a prob with his "articles" appearing on/.. However I think it would be nice to see another writer brought in who could act as a counterpoint to Katz. They don't have to totally disagree, but it would be nice to get someone else in on the mix with differing opinions rather than just Katz's "articles." From what I hear he does reply to his e-mail but it would be nice to see someone else in a public forum.
With all the WAY inaccurate information in the previous article about the recent DoS attacks (and in the news) and such I'm glad to see/. is going to someone who has some good info and is involved in the whole deal. YAY/. for maybe even raising the bar for the media elsewhere.
/.ed:-( Guess I'll have to check out the links in the "Older Stuff" section. The "Older Stuff" section is often like my old girlfriend. Sure it's not that new, and most of my friends have been there . . . but she's available when I call.
That's quite true. From experience I know as well that just because your supposed to use legal copies of NT doesn't mean they're not using several NT installs illegaly. It would be an interesting thing to see (I don't think it can be reliably tracked) to compare the # of illegal multiple NT installs to the multiple installs of Linux.
(I'm sure this story is not uncommon) I worked once for a company who hozed their NT system running Exchange (their own darned fault) and reloaded and reconfigured (fools who don't backup) and all. Aprox 120 days (I think it was 120) later the system didn't work . . . They had installed the trial ver of their OS! *sigh*
That is a good point it sure can.! I didn't mention FTP download and FTP installations, however I think those are usually limited to experienced Linux (server) admins, and there's not a massive # of them compared to other OSes (at least not yet). I spoke with a few friends at several large IS consulting services and interest in Linux is noticeable they say, however they installations are still quite rare. Most of their clients have a wait and see look, but do ask about it often. With the exception of using it for web hosting, that is very common for companies that handle their own hosting now they tell me.
"Linux for servers are higher than sales for any other operating system except WinNT" I think this is great news and all but with a grain of salt or so . . The article doesn't exactly seem to say how you can differentiate (or if they even are differentiating) between the OS being sold and used for the purposes of being a server, and purchases that are used for the desktop environment. It also gives a bit of the wrong impression on what's being used out there. The numbers they give are sales for the last few years NOT the actual percentage of all systems running the listed OSes. Linux still has a big big hill to climb I think, but is moving up. Still good news though!
There's nothing wrong with investing in some online real-estate. However targeting a certain business, person (several people have started doing it with NFL football player's names), or organization, then your moving into a gray area.
I'm trying to keep this from sounding like a flame but still ask what I mean here. I should note that I haven't read a lot of Katz. However the few times I have your opinion seems so simple and stark it would seem your almost parodying opinions that you don't believe in. I wonder sometimes if you really believe all the things you write, or if the intent is more to promote discussion?
I have to agree, by even being nominated you prove your not that unsung. I think those people nominated should all get the hug for their work, and the award should be given to "That unsung guy we can't talk about." So that we don't ruin it for him.
I agree that Corp sites are often too complex and flashy to the point where they become usless to inet novices as well. When I used to do some small sites for some little businesses back home I always used what I call the "Mom Factor". I always had my mom test it (an internet novice to the extreme). If my mom could use it, it was good, if she had trouble, I needed to do some more work. It kept the sites functional.
I'm no LinuxOne fan myself. Although, I think that's a being a bit picky when you complain they don't have the source on a floppy right then and there. I don't like LinuxOne, but if your gonna show people that they're a no good company little things like that won't convince many I don't think. I'd hate to give them an opening to say "Yah well (reputable company X) provided me with a floppy and it doesn't have the source on it!"
"If these stories have no interest to you then please go read something else. No one is putting a gun to your and making you read this web site."
I wasn't going to complain about/. and this really isn't about them I guess. I remember back when you could suggest that something be changed or mention something you didn't like without someone throwing a fit at you from the parent company to go read something else.
I could be way off here, so help me out if ya can, or ignore this blithering idiot. According to the article "Strands of RNA containing 1,024 base pairs were encoded with every possible solution to a specific chess problem" and "Molecules can store more information than silicon chips, and this was the largest problem ever solved by a molecular computer" It sounds like it was given the answers, so wouldn't this be more useful as a storage medium? The article seems to indicate it being as a computer. Am I missing something about computing here?
This is pretty neat and all, but did it need to be posted in an article by it's self? Maybe it would have been better suited with CmdrTaco's quickies (man I miss those)? BRING ON THE QUICKIES I SAY! Then we could get a bunch at a time.:-)
I'm a healthy single guy with a good job but still some time on my hands so I would probably take the flack. However I can't say the same about the others. If I had a family with kids and/or a big time consuming job taking the flack would not be such a simple decision. It wouldn't just impact me but others who depend on me as well. For all I know I'm in a country that could react quite negatively toward such actions. Also if there is no legal defense fund or not a big enough one, it could get quite expensive too. It's hard to say why they're hiding, but I can't blame them.
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Amen.
I like that they put the comments from the person who submitted the article up there. However they should at least ask the person who submitted it if they can edit TOTALLY inaccurate information that's in it. I've seen this happen several times before, and sadly somewhat more frequently as of late, I don't mind if it could possibly be a judgment call or posed as the submitters opinion (even if it is way off). However outright stating that something is in the article that is not in the article just is disappointing coming from
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Now granted it would seem Mr. Metcaclf has of "some" of his facts wrong here. However I wonder if he was right fundamentally if it would be that big of a deal? It would be nice if everyone who contributed to the open source movement would release software in that manner, but if you support OSS must ALL of your software be so?
First of all Linus works for this company and doesn't run it (that I'm aware of), I have several friends who work on OSS software in their spare time but work for a commercial company who (like most) don't release their code. So should they quit, find another job, perhaps have to move their families and such? I'd say no.
Secondly lets say that he did own the company. Would this be the end of the world? Mr. T releases some code that's not OSS. So what? It's sad but often it seems that some more vocal advocates of the OSS movement has become somewhat more "harsh and angry" and implies that all software must be OSS, ignoring the fact that people still are free in many of the countries of the world. I wonder if that helps or hurts as the movement moves into the general public's eyes in the future. Now granted many of the OSS movement are perfectly nice people, but some seem to have taken on an angry feel and that worries me.
However if this were true, and Mr. T had control if the software is OSS or not, and he didn't release it as such, is that so bad? I'd still think he was an alright guy, I wouldn't like it, but it's his choice. If he wanted to make some $ working for a company that interests him and that doesn't release it's software, no biggie to me.
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I've never really thought of that adage that way, that sadly makes sense here. Thus the Jessie Bersts of the world and such I guess, and perhaps JK above (he's had a few very disappointing technical errors in the past).
Those writing often seem to be not busy (and perhaps should be) with other things, mainly with what their writing about. A sad little fact leading to some critical errors that I've seen in many articles by "those who teach." One problem I often see is the fact that the writers often do not stop to explain what they're writing about, or if they do they do it poorly or incorrectly. Probably because some of them aren't "those ho can."
I sympathize with your situation in your LUG, I often leave people who ask for my help on their own to learn the hard way rather than interrupt my own projects.
Yep, it sucks.
I wish I did. I find a good writer with a technical clue now and then but few that write regular columns that I'm aware of.
I figure either that there are very few of them out there, or that they get very little exposure with other people taking their place who are "less technically inclined" (being polite).
Thanks for the URL! It would be nice to have a few more people like that regularly on /. Having someone like Katz is nice, but really it seems that the "discussion" after his articles are becoming stale and repetitive. The lack of technical ability in most of the media seems to generate the same responses to many articles posted. It would be nice to have some regulars that are more technical posting too.
The popularity of the "Ask Jon Katz" article got me thinking. While I often totally disagree with Katz on a ton of things, I don't have a prob with his "articles" appearing on /.. However I think it would be nice to see another writer brought in who could act as a counterpoint to Katz. They don't have to totally disagree, but it would be nice to get someone else in on the mix with differing opinions rather than just Katz's "articles." From what I hear he does reply to his e-mail but it would be nice to see someone else in a public forum.
I did say "maybe" for a reason.
With all the WAY inaccurate information in the previous article about the recent DoS attacks (and in the news) and such I'm glad to see /. is going to someone who has some good info and is involved in the whole deal. YAY /. for maybe even raising the bar for the media elsewhere.
/.ed :-(
Guess I'll have to check out the links in the "Older Stuff" section.
The "Older Stuff" section is often like my old girlfriend. Sure it's not that new, and most of my friends have been there . . . but she's available when I call.
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That's quite true.
From experience I know as well that just because your supposed to use legal copies of NT doesn't mean they're not using several NT installs illegaly. It would be an interesting thing to see (I don't think it can be reliably tracked) to compare the # of illegal multiple NT installs to the multiple installs of Linux.
(I'm sure this story is not uncommon) I worked once for a company who hozed their NT system running Exchange (their own darned fault) and reloaded and reconfigured (fools who don't backup) and all. Aprox 120 days (I think it was 120) later the system didn't work . . . They had installed the trial ver of their OS! *sigh*
That is a good point it sure can.!
I didn't mention FTP download and FTP installations, however I think those are usually limited to experienced Linux (server) admins, and there's not a massive # of them compared to other OSes (at least not yet).
I spoke with a few friends at several large IS consulting services and interest in Linux is noticeable they say, however they installations are still quite rare. Most of their clients have a wait and see look, but do ask about it often. With the exception of using it for web hosting, that is very common for companies that handle their own hosting now they tell me.
"Linux for servers are higher than sales for any other operating system except WinNT"
I think this is great news and all but with a grain of salt or so . .
The article doesn't exactly seem to say how you can differentiate (or if they even are differentiating) between the OS being sold and used for the purposes of being a server, and purchases that are used for the desktop environment.
It also gives a bit of the wrong impression on what's being used out there. The numbers they give are sales for the last few years NOT the actual percentage of all systems running the listed OSes. Linux still has a big big hill to climb I think, but is moving up.
Still good news though!
I agree with your call on this one.
There's nothing wrong with investing in some online real-estate.
However targeting a certain business, person (several people have started doing it with NFL football player's names), or organization, then your moving into a gray area.
I'm trying to keep this from sounding like a flame but still ask what I mean here. I should note that I haven't read a lot of Katz. However the few times I have your opinion seems so simple and stark it would seem your almost parodying opinions that you don't believe in. I wonder sometimes if you really believe all the things you write, or if the intent is more to promote discussion?
I have to agree, by even being nominated you prove your not that unsung. I think those people nominated should all get the hug for their work, and the award should be given to "That unsung guy we can't talk about." So that we don't ruin it for him.
I agree that Corp sites are often too complex and flashy to the point where they become usless to inet novices as well.
When I used to do some small sites for some little businesses back home I always used what I call the "Mom Factor". I always had my mom test it (an internet novice to the extreme). If my mom could use it, it was good, if she had trouble, I needed to do some more work. It kept the sites functional.
I'm no LinuxOne fan myself. Although, I think that's a being a bit picky when you complain they don't have the source on a floppy right then and there.
I don't like LinuxOne, but if your gonna show people that they're a no good company little things like that won't convince many I don't think. I'd hate to give them an opening to say "Yah well (reputable company X) provided me with a floppy and it doesn't have the source on it!"
"If these stories have no interest to you then please go read something else. No one is putting a gun to your and making you read this web site."
/. and this really isn't about them I guess. I remember back when you could suggest that something be changed or mention something you didn't like without someone throwing a fit at you from the parent company to go read something else.
I wasn't going to complain about
I could be way off here, so help me out if ya can, or ignore this blithering idiot.
According to the article "Strands of RNA containing 1,024 base pairs were encoded with every possible solution to a specific chess problem" and "Molecules can store more information than silicon chips, and this was the largest problem ever solved by a molecular computer"
It sounds like it was given the answers, so wouldn't this be more useful as a storage medium?
The article seems to indicate it being as a computer. Am I missing something about computing here?
I wondered the same. Fortunatly i got moderated back up one too. I thought it was right on topic :-)
I don't think they knew what I was talking about.
This is pretty neat and all, but did it need to be posted in an article by it's self? Maybe it would have been better suited with CmdrTaco's quickies (man I miss those)? :-)
BRING ON THE QUICKIES I SAY!
Then we could get a bunch at a time.
"DeCSS isn't wrong, why are they hiding?"
I'm a healthy single guy with a good job but still some time on my hands so I would probably take the flack. However I can't say the same about the others. If I had a family with kids and/or a big time consuming job taking the flack would not be such a simple decision. It wouldn't just impact me but others who depend on me as well. For all I know I'm in a country that could react quite negatively toward such actions. Also if there is no legal defense fund or not a big enough one, it could get quite expensive too. It's hard to say why they're hiding, but I can't blame them.
Because 3com, has had nearly 5 continious years of $ probs and needs the cash bad.