Whether it's their idea or not, it's a horrible idea
But at the end of the day, if the customers ask for it, you give it to them. I have worked in corp land, and honestly i can fully understand it, having to do full testing cycles to ensure it won't impact on current workflows, take workstations offline or softwares used by the staff. Depending on the amount of software / image types you have, this can take 1-2 weeks, having to start a testing cycle everyday increases the man hours needed to insane amounts. In the end, when a cycle like that patches that aren't considered highly critical are ignored, and that just makes the problems even worse in the long run.
Conroy (the guy who's doing this -along with the filter), accused google of stealing every bodies bank details with their wifi devices. In saying that, i don't think we have to worry about an encryption bill, he obviously has no idea that encryption exists...
*IF* you bothered to look, you'll see that while it is googles own advertising platform on all of their products, they DO display ads from 3rd party networks,
In my adsense account, i even have an option to allow 3rd party ads via the google network, (my account -> account settings -> "Third Party Ads Preference" for reference).
Been able to show 3rd party ads on my own website via google's own network defeates alot of what people are saying here.
In *my* website i get to choose my ad provider if i want one. In my iphone app, i have to use apple's ad network, i built the app, why should i be restricted to apples own software/property for how to monitize it? locking out analytics for 3rd parties makes them useless, i'm not going to want to show ads about uk tv shows to american visitors and vice versa, this means any ads showen will be poorly targeted because of this, and the income per click is going to be extremely low.
Really i don't see a problem with what google did, apparently it was only open networks etc, having an open wireless device in your house would be like not having curtains on your windows, if your not going to "stop" people from looking in, you've got nothing to complain about. If they were only taking samples, there shouldn't be much of an issue, because you where broadcasting the data to the public anyway...
I think the argument here, isn't that the teleportation is patentable, it's how it's done. They are trying to take control on an idea that has been around for countless years, not the technology that made it possible.
well that's my take on it anyway...
While I'm all for renewable energy, We can't live off it in it's present form, you can't ensure a minimum output like coal/nuclear power plants so it would lead to brown/blackouts in the long run if it was taken up more. What we really need is a renewable energy that can provide a base load, then we start shutting down all the coal/nuclear power plants that create so much pollution.
So while this is good news, we really need to start working more on forms of renewable power creation where we can get a minimum load of them on demand or renewable energy will stay on the fringes.
the exception is here, it's the large companies that are paying, and there's a difference in-between $40petrol a week and a 4 million dollar power bill.
if you want to reference it to cars - putting laws on the petrol use of cars would be like putting laws on how much power an individual computer is use - it's still apples and oranges
They have a rather large incentive to get their power bills down, and it's one of the area's where putting people working on it full will still provide a profit, and positive pr for them as well - win-win, telling people to use X or Y methods, and not try anything else is not only counter productive, but will also cost us in the long run, what new methods are going to miss out on in 5-10-15 years because people weren't allowed to try.
At least with blizzcon, it was an event, that you wouldn't of gotten because there is not "full version of blizzcon" coming out soon, While the idea in general might be the same, it's totally different in respect that blizzcon is a unique event that you can't repeat or sell off later.
This is one reason why I use Linux: Microsoft obviously cares about its marketshare more than my security, and I cannot in good conscience use my money to support a company with such backwards priorities
So your turning amish right?
You've just basically described any company with shares, and then some...
While true, The amount of kiddies that would setup a second box to interact with the traffic would be extremely low. On top of that it'd have to communicate with the client (ie aimbot) about it. Highly complex.
I think it could be done quite well.
Perhaps some type of random identifier on the skins and stuff, so the clients can work out what to display without knowing what it is, that way you should still be able to filter out the cheaters.
My bank does this. If you try to send funds to an account you haven't before, you HAVE to sms verify, it's great. Transfer funds, get a window asking for the sms verification code. If i got one randomly i'd call up support asap.
Another thing the bank does - is send out emails, but it tells you up the top they'll never put links in the emails, and to visit the site like they normally do. While this is upto the intelligence of the user in the end, the more they see the message, the more likely they'll be not to do click on phishing emails.
First 3 would be a failure on your side not his for allowing this and not locking down the machine(s).
4th would be a failure of education, if he hasn't been told, how is he going to know. "Bob" is busy doing his job, not yours.
5th - this is 50/50, if he gets to many red flags, in doing his normal work, he's just going to ignore them all isn't he ?
if i discovered a tech going on a warpath to fire another employee for not doing his job, i'd fire the tech on the spot
There's two sides to every story.
On another note, do you think bob is going to go and spend hours researching software when he just wants to listen to some music, or watch a video?
in everquest 1, there was a program called showeq, it showed the map, and everything on it, where it was moving direction etc. What sony did was in one of the zones, put in hidden mobs called "show eq sucks", i know a few people got their accounts suspended telling people about it.
Hidden objects etc work.
If the server thinks someone is cheating, ie kill 5 people with 1 shots really fast, broadcast to that client invisible characters, if the person shoots at them - kick them for cheating.
The thing about cheating is, the programs are automatic, look for items, workout what they look for, you can throw out "counter measures" then ban their arses.
that's the thing, it did say can't connect to internet, then it asked to start in offline mode, clicked on yes/ok, and it'd complain about no internet access again, and quit.
very annoying indeed.
i prefer to buy most of my stuff off steam now as well.
it's usally 20-40$ cheaper then the shops, and the specials are even better (infact i only buy the specials now - sick of paying something, then finding it 50-75% off several weeks later)
well my internet was down yesturday, tryed to launch one of my games on steam (the game didn't even have multiplayer), guess what, it didn't let me load steam because i wasn't connected to the internet, net result, couldn't play any of my games off steam...
How about getting paid to delay the story for a defined period of time, make money, and still provide the service they are known for. It'd allow the company to get their pr in order for it;)
The only reason this has happened, is because people are migrating from IE7 to IE8, if you look at the graph, firefox is a little over half the combined marketshare of ie 7 & 8, this will change in a month or two as more and more people migrate to ie8.
Using the same method as the poster, you can say that ie6 has more market share then Firefox 3....
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Whether it's their idea or not, it's a horrible idea
But at the end of the day, if the customers ask for it, you give it to them. I have worked in corp land, and honestly i can fully understand it, having to do full testing cycles to ensure it won't impact on current workflows, take workstations offline or softwares used by the staff. Depending on the amount of software / image types you have, this can take 1-2 weeks, having to start a testing cycle everyday increases the man hours needed to insane amounts. In the end, when a cycle like that patches that aren't considered highly critical are ignored, and that just makes the problems even worse in the long run.
Well, i'm not doing anything wrong, but i may be, or may not be doing things i might be ashamed of!
Conroy (the guy who's doing this -along with the filter), accused google of stealing every bodies bank details with their wifi devices. In saying that, i don't think we have to worry about an encryption bill, he obviously has no idea that encryption exists...
*IF* you bothered to look, you'll see that while it is googles own advertising platform on all of their products, they DO display ads from 3rd party networks,
In my adsense account, i even have an option to allow 3rd party ads via the google network, (my account -> account settings -> "Third Party Ads Preference" for reference).
Been able to show 3rd party ads on my own website via google's own network defeates alot of what people are saying here.
In *my* website i get to choose my ad provider if i want one. In my iphone app, i have to use apple's ad network, i built the app, why should i be restricted to apples own software/property for how to monitize it? locking out analytics for 3rd parties makes them useless, i'm not going to want to show ads about uk tv shows to american visitors and vice versa, this means any ads showen will be poorly targeted because of this, and the income per click is going to be extremely low.
Really i don't see a problem with what google did, apparently it was only open networks etc, having an open wireless device in your house would be like not having curtains on your windows, if your not going to "stop" people from looking in, you've got nothing to complain about. If they were only taking samples, there shouldn't be much of an issue, because you where broadcasting the data to the public anyway...
Or... you could just send fake infringement notices on every ip address at the isp, they'll either stop doing it, or go out of business...
I think the argument here, isn't that the teleportation is patentable, it's how it's done. They are trying to take control on an idea that has been around for countless years, not the technology that made it possible.
well that's my take on it anyway...
And when the wind stops, make sure you have candles handy...
While I'm all for renewable energy, We can't live off it in it's present form, you can't ensure a minimum output like coal/nuclear power plants so it would lead to brown/blackouts in the long run if it was taken up more. What we really need is a renewable energy that can provide a base load, then we start shutting down all the coal/nuclear power plants that create so much pollution.
So while this is good news, we really need to start working more on forms of renewable power creation where we can get a minimum load of them on demand or renewable energy will stay on the fringes.
the exception is here, it's the large companies that are paying, and there's a difference in-between $40petrol a week and a 4 million dollar power bill.
if you want to reference it to cars - putting laws on the petrol use of cars would be like putting laws on how much power an individual computer is use - it's still apples and oranges
They have a rather large incentive to get their power bills down, and it's one of the area's where putting people working on it full will still provide a profit, and positive pr for them as well - win-win, telling people to use X or Y methods, and not try anything else is not only counter productive, but will also cost us in the long run, what new methods are going to miss out on in 5-10-15 years because people weren't allowed to try.
They still are "do no evil", it's just when they floated, it was shifted from customers to shareholders...
At least with blizzcon, it was an event, that you wouldn't of gotten because there is not "full version of blizzcon" coming out soon, While the idea in general might be the same, it's totally different in respect that blizzcon is a unique event that you can't repeat or sell off later.
It doesn't count until it's publicly released, Otherwise the majority of the browsers are still not patched...
there a public company now...
"don't be evil" now means don't lose the shareholders money, what did you think it mean?
So your turning amish right?
You've just basically described any company with shares, and then some...
the isp's will be paying for it, so driving up the costs is only going to drive of the cost of your internet connect to cover it.
While true, The amount of kiddies that would setup a second box to interact with the traffic would be extremely low. On top of that it'd have to communicate with the client (ie aimbot) about it. Highly complex. I think it could be done quite well. Perhaps some type of random identifier on the skins and stuff, so the clients can work out what to display without knowing what it is, that way you should still be able to filter out the cheaters.
My bank does this. If you try to send funds to an account you haven't before, you HAVE to sms verify, it's great. Transfer funds, get a window asking for the sms verification code. If i got one randomly i'd call up support asap. Another thing the bank does - is send out emails, but it tells you up the top they'll never put links in the emails, and to visit the site like they normally do. While this is upto the intelligence of the user in the end, the more they see the message, the more likely they'll be not to do click on phishing emails.
First 3 would be a failure on your side not his for allowing this and not locking down the machine(s). 4th would be a failure of education, if he hasn't been told, how is he going to know. "Bob" is busy doing his job, not yours. 5th - this is 50/50, if he gets to many red flags, in doing his normal work, he's just going to ignore them all isn't he ? if i discovered a tech going on a warpath to fire another employee for not doing his job, i'd fire the tech on the spot There's two sides to every story. On another note, do you think bob is going to go and spend hours researching software when he just wants to listen to some music, or watch a video?
in everquest 1, there was a program called showeq, it showed the map, and everything on it, where it was moving direction etc. What sony did was in one of the zones, put in hidden mobs called "show eq sucks", i know a few people got their accounts suspended telling people about it. Hidden objects etc work. If the server thinks someone is cheating, ie kill 5 people with 1 shots really fast, broadcast to that client invisible characters, if the person shoots at them - kick them for cheating. The thing about cheating is, the programs are automatic, look for items, workout what they look for, you can throw out "counter measures" then ban their arses.
well... having access to the internet, and been able to access to all items on it are two totally different things.
If somebody's server goes down, are you going to ask verizon for a rebate/refund for not been able to access it as well?
that's the thing, it did say can't connect to internet, then it asked to start in offline mode, clicked on yes/ok, and it'd complain about no internet access again, and quit. very annoying indeed. i prefer to buy most of my stuff off steam now as well. it's usally 20-40$ cheaper then the shops, and the specials are even better (infact i only buy the specials now - sick of paying something, then finding it 50-75% off several weeks later)
well my internet was down yesturday, tryed to launch one of my games on steam (the game didn't even have multiplayer), guess what, it didn't let me load steam because i wasn't connected to the internet, net result, couldn't play any of my games off steam...
How about getting paid to delay the story for a defined period of time, make money, and still provide the service they are known for. It'd allow the company to get their pr in order for it ;)
The only reason this has happened, is because people are migrating from IE7 to IE8, if you look at the graph, firefox is a little over half the combined marketshare of ie 7 & 8, this will change in a month or two as more and more people migrate to ie8.
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Using the same method as the poster, you can say that ie6 has more market share then Firefox 3