I try not to rant and rave about this, to my non-nerd friends, but sometimes I just can't help my self... but it seems nobody really cares. They will just mumble something like "but think about the children" and surrender their freedom. Damn.
People will care if they knew about and fully understood what's at stake. Unfortunately, the people who "know and understand" do an extremely poor job at informing and appealing to the masses. Sorry, but the tin foil hat look has never been or ever will be in.
And...um...who is the party providing or paying for all the storage and backups-handling to retain all these conversations?
This is one of the main reasons why telecom companies are opposed to long-term storage of data. They're the ones who are going to have to foot the bill, as politicians would never raise taxes to pay for this. The burden of costs will end up on the consumer, which in the long run is bad for business, profits, etc.
Second, it states that data should be kept only as long as needed for billing and such, unless there is a specific request from the authorities to keep other data (and only data from the date of the request onwards).
This is the way things are now. The proposal is to keep all traffic data for at least a year, if not longer. I've read in some places that they want to keep data for up to seven (!!) years!
I participated in an open hearing (in Norwegian only, sorry) on this very topic last year in Oslo. Participants included representatives from telecom companies, top IT companies, government agencies, interest groups, etc. While there was sympathy for the need to fight terrorism, nobody was in favor of long-term storage of traffic data. The reasons varied, all from privacy concerns to costs to contractual expectations. Nobody was able to see how this long-term data storage would be useful for fighting terrorism. Yes, they understood the alleged theories, but were able to slam these theories with real world examples.
The one representative who was supposed to speak in favor of it never showed up (remember Inger Marie Sunde?), nor did she send a replacement. Now what kind of message does that send? It gives the impression of "the majority doesn't care for long-term storage of traffic data, but we don't care what the majority thinks. We're going to impose our way on you whether you like it or not."
In regions of many countries (China and North Korea for example) it's not unusual to find children working jobs to support their families.
You say "in other countries, it's voluntary or not strictly enforced" regarding schooling. And when I ask what countries these are, all you are able to come up with is the above? Just mention of a few regions?
Take a look at the first place country, Finland. A socialist country. The president is a member of the social democrats; when she was elected she was a single mother. The Minster of Education, Tuula Haatainen, is also a socialist.
I don't care if someone scans me up and down when I travel. I do care when some stranger digs up all kinds of information about me and then confronts me with it. Especially when that information is used to paint a very incorrect picture of me.
He noted her name tag, came home, and using his knowledge of databases and search techniques, riffled through the Internet looking up information on her. He went back a few days later and surprised Angela with details about her life. He also told her how he had found out. Three weeks later, in a story that could make a script for a date-movie, they were married.
What was it he dug up on her that made her marry a sneaky bastard like him in three short weeks? And how desperately did he need his Green Card? Or is that "none of our business?"
The problem is putting this bit and that bit of information about you in a profile and making an assumption about your personality and behavior based on this profile. Keep in mind that these bits of information are more often than not collected non-contextually. And more often than not, using this information against you.
For example, borrowing a good example used here earlier, if you are a big Grateful Dead fan who goes to all their concerts and runs a website dedicated to them, you are a pot smoker.
Patel though sees it differently. The root cause of insecurity and intolerance in this world, he argues, is that we know so little about each other. If everyone knew everything about everyone else, or at least had access to such information, there would be less problems. Besides, why try and hide things, when it is becoming harder and harder to do so?
Perhaps the reason why we know so little about each other is that people feel the need to sneak around and dig up dirt on others and then use that information against them? If you truly wanted to know more about someone, then open your mouth and ask that someone.
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It's the most appropriate topic icon for this article. Sheesh. Take this as an example:
"Pornography really does, unlike other addictions, biologically cause direct release of the most perfect addictive substance," Satinover said. "That is, it causes masturbation, which causes release of the naturally occurring opioids. It does what heroin can't do, in effect."
Had I been at this testimony, I would have burst out laughing. Even though the fact that someone is stupid and pathetic enough to compare jerking off to shooting up heroin is no laughing matter...
It's about trust. It's about what can and cannot be done with the data being given out.
It?s funny that EU citizens believe they have "privacy" culture and then gladly fill out government income tax and census forms that provide every detail about their religion, charitable affiliations, income, address, occupation, and number of children.
Where exactly do you have this from and how does it differ from census information outside the EU? Please give sources for your information.
Why are EU citizens so proud of new privacy laws give government's more access to their personal data then they had before?
Not only is pumpkin pie tasty, the scent of pumpkin pie is an aphrodisiac for men (do a google search for 'pumpkin pie aprhrodisiac' or 'pumpkin pie aphrodisiac scent' for more info). So if I want to get some, I know what I have to bake;-) Though it seems that the combination of pumpkin pie and lavender is thet most arousing. Heh...
It has less to do with what one can afford than with what kids do for kicks on a Saturday night. I think there was something or other here on/. for some time back about a similar phenomenon in South Korea (can't be bothered to search now). Some kiddies go to the movies or sneak into the pub, in China they go to the Internet café to play "adult" games. Hence a large number of Internet cafés.
Add to that all the tourists in China. While most tourists do not want to spend all their time in front of a screen, many do want to check e-mail and let their friends/family know they're ok and having fun, update travel journals, whatever else. I doubt you have the same booming tourism industry in Minnesota as you do in China...
These regulations aren't about privacy; theyre the tariffs of the 21st century.
No, they're not about tariffs. They're about maintaining a historical privacy culture that someone like you would never be able to understand.
Try reading Warren and Brandeis' The Right to Privacy sometime, as a starting point in understanding the historical basis of privacy rights/culture. Try to understand what has been written. And don't forget to take notice the date of the article.
The European union Personal data directives try to make rules on this, forbidding transfer of such data outside EU.
This is not entirely true. According to the EU Data Protection Directive, in order for data to be transferred out of the EU/EEA to third countries, the country in question has to have "adequate level of protection," cf article 25. Adequacy is determined by various factors such as existing data protection legislation and professional rules and security measures in relation to the type and sensitivity of the data being transferred.
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I have a few mail accounts on yahoo.no, and only one of them has gotten spam, all of which has been caught by yahoo's filter.
People will care if they knew about and fully understood what's at stake. Unfortunately, the people who "know and understand" do an extremely poor job at informing and appealing to the masses. Sorry, but the tin foil hat look has never been or ever will be in.
This is one of the main reasons why telecom companies are opposed to long-term storage of data. They're the ones who are going to have to foot the bill, as politicians would never raise taxes to pay for this. The burden of costs will end up on the consumer, which in the long run is bad for business, profits, etc.
This is the way things are now. The proposal is to keep all traffic data for at least a year, if not longer. I've read in some places that they want to keep data for up to seven (!!) years!
The one representative who was supposed to speak in favor of it never showed up (remember Inger Marie Sunde?), nor did she send a replacement. Now what kind of message does that send? It gives the impression of "the majority doesn't care for long-term storage of traffic data, but we don't care what the majority thinks. We're going to impose our way on you whether you like it or not."
You say "in other countries, it's voluntary or not strictly enforced" regarding schooling. And when I ask what countries these are, all you are able to come up with is the above? Just mention of a few regions?
And what countries are these?
I don't think it's purely coincidental I managed a 650 in math on the SATs while going to public schools my entire life.
I went to public schools (in the US) and got a 750.
Lastly, immigrants.
My mother is an immigrant. But unlike the picture of immigrants you have in your head, she has a graduate degree in the "hard sciences."
What the fuck do you expect when you have a priest as prime minister?
Take a look at the first place country, Finland. A socialist country. The president is a member of the social democrats; when she was elected she was a single mother. The Minster of Education, Tuula Haatainen, is also a socialist.
I'll be sure to keep that in mind ;-)
Probably not ;-)
I don't care if someone scans me up and down when I travel. I do care when some stranger digs up all kinds of information about me and then confronts me with it. Especially when that information is used to paint a very incorrect picture of me.
What was it he dug up on her that made her marry a sneaky bastard like him in three short weeks? And how desperately did he need his Green Card? Or is that "none of our business?"
Isn't that what Orkut has tried to attempt?
For example, borrowing a good example used here earlier, if you are a big Grateful Dead fan who goes to all their concerts and runs a website dedicated to them, you are a pot smoker.
Perhaps the reason why we know so little about each other is that people feel the need to sneak around and dig up dirt on others and then use that information against them? If you truly wanted to know more about someone, then open your mouth and ask that someone.
*shudder*
"Pornography really does, unlike other addictions, biologically cause direct release of the most perfect addictive substance," Satinover said. "That is, it causes masturbation, which causes release of the naturally occurring opioids. It does what heroin can't do, in effect."
Had I been at this testimony, I would have burst out laughing. Even though the fact that someone is stupid and pathetic enough to compare jerking off to shooting up heroin is no laughing matter...
It?s funny that EU citizens believe they have "privacy" culture and then gladly fill out government income tax and census forms that provide every detail about their religion, charitable affiliations, income, address, occupation, and number of children.
Where exactly do you have this from and how does it differ from census information outside the EU? Please give sources for your information.
Why are EU citizens so proud of new privacy laws give government's more access to their personal data then they had before?
please elaborate.
Not only is pumpkin pie tasty, the scent of pumpkin pie is an aphrodisiac for men (do a google search for 'pumpkin pie aprhrodisiac' or 'pumpkin pie aphrodisiac scent' for more info). So if I want to get some, I know what I have to bake ;-) Though it seems that the combination of pumpkin pie and lavender is thet most arousing. Heh...
Add to that all the tourists in China. While most tourists do not want to spend all their time in front of a screen, many do want to check e-mail and let their friends/family know they're ok and having fun, update travel journals, whatever else. I doubt you have the same booming tourism industry in Minnesota as you do in China...
No, they're not about tariffs. They're about maintaining a historical privacy culture that someone like you would never be able to understand.
Try reading Warren and Brandeis' The Right to Privacy sometime, as a starting point in understanding the historical basis of privacy rights/culture. Try to understand what has been written. And don't forget to take notice the date of the article.
This is not entirely true. According to the EU Data Protection Directive, in order for data to be transferred out of the EU/EEA to third countries, the country in question has to have "adequate level of protection," cf article 25. Adequacy is determined by various factors such as existing data protection legislation and professional rules and security measures in relation to the type and sensitivity of the data being transferred.
...and their weapons of mass destruction.
I'm more worried about being a target for local men looking for female tourists' asses to grab ;-)