If I can run ff on my 2001 HP laptop,wiht a messed up harddrive with my own install of Windows 2000 on top of Windows ME, ff performance aint the issue.
worrying about a little performance is a classic geek mistake; people buy features, not performance.
what are features ? I have poor vision, and Cntrl+ doesnt increase the size of the text in the url window the poor state of organization of the site where you down load extensions I'm sure all the non geeky/.ers reading this can add other features, like builtin support for video (the videolan thing doesn't work very well) Or how about better export and save of urls or or.... remember, people buy features, not performance - if that werent true, how would MS rule the world ?
from science citation index, that aprox half of all journal articles have 1 or 0 citations - this suggests that a large fracton of scienc studies are not worth much (altho you could have a long/. discussion on citation anaylsis)
this is such a bad thing, adding a diff ver of OO, that it might actually be an effort to kill the project...just like linux killed itself with diff distros
a few years ago, there was a story about international reference stds, and how the Kg was the only one that relied on unique object - by comparison, the second and distance are defined by fundamental propertys of atoms; in principal anyone can build an atomic clock and measure time for themselves, though of course in practice it aint easy anyway, there are whole conferences devoted to what is going to happen to the entire legal scale of weights when this block of iridium in paris is no good
now for the amusing part: every now and then, you actually have to take the Kg out of its special chamber and compare it to a secondary std. There was this old guy in paris who was the only person in the world who could clean the Kg without changing its weight (you can measure a delta ) maybe this guy died
why can't the whole world be made of mom and pop storefronts ? there are perhaps a small number of things - oil exploration, auto plants, things like that, that require large corporations, but as for things like google, who knows.
as for Google being better, Are the concentration camps of the Boer war beter then the camps of WW II
as for google being better, that is because they have not yet entered the market place. Despite all the rhetoric about free markets, there is nothing biz people like less then free markets, the goal of every biz is to have a functional monopoly. When you have companies with functional monopolys, they have enough excess cash to appear good, the prime example is bell labs from ATT/ however, as soon as the monopoly ends, and a biz has to compete, the veneer of nice stuff comes off and the true nature of a biz - a vicious, amoralistic animal that cares only about money - comes out. It is not that google is evil, it is that large corporations, by their very DNA, are evil - they can't help it, any more then a hyena can help killing its prey by slicing open the belly and letting the prey strangle in it's own entrails.
I personally amresponible for ~ 50 downloads, every computer at work, and geting a lot of friends and family then i discoverd mozilla has taken large sums from google, the next borg evil overlord no more downloads for me google is evil, like ANY large corporation, and I won't be associated with it.
The problem is that most of the math and science is either irrelevant boring or wrong (!) This is easiest to see in math Now that we have 5$ calculators, you don't need to know how to do multiplication or division - you just need to know how to apply them. So what should be taught in math class is to take any random issue of a newspaper or magazine, and find the errors in use of math (eg, the Boston Globe had a front page story on property tax increase that used average increase/household (!!)). The point is that most kids are not gonna go into math and science (cause there ain't no funding, the day bill gates pays math and science students as much as marketers,and the day we get rid of the incredibly stupid, wrong, racist stereotype that americans are creative and asians are mathy, kids will go into math and science) So, what they need to know is how to use approx numbers in their lives. math beyond this is like teaching em how to shoe horses - a completely useless outdated skill.
There was an important case, about a year ago, which went to the supreme court, where a man refused to show his ID, or to identify himself to a police officer. As I remember the court's analysis, you only have to show your ID if you are a suspect or have comitted a crime
although i'm a scientist and a strong proevo person, and i think ID is hypocriticl nonsense, i wonder if the problem is with the pro evo side. I wonder how well evolution is really explained, with data I don't think it is very well explained at all
like most/.ers,you have these wierd catagorys of evil and non evil companies. ALL large companies are the same - the more successfull, the more evil why is this so ? while everyone professes to like the free market, businesmen hate the free market and love monopoly - in a free market you have to work harder for less, who in their rigth mind would actually like that ?
So, the 1st thing a company does when it becomes big and succesffull is to use its power to dampen market forces in any way it can.
Now sometimes, when a company is really, really rich and successful, like google or the old AT&T they are so succesfull that they cna hide their evilness behind total monopoly power. but as sooon as their market posistion slips, they beocme evil. mark my words, you heard it hear 1st: as soon as googles profit starts to fall, andit is no longer a wall street darling, they willl be right in their with MS and GM and whoever.
if you look at the references in the article, several of the titles suggest that the use of optical means to solve the traveling salesman problem is not new, altho the exact optical setup here is new.
haven't been able to read the/.ed article, but I speculate that it is quite possible they could use a lot less then 100^100 photons any comments from someone who understands this ?
you have probably heard of Ross Perot as a kid, he was a salesman for IBM on comission, no cap he made more then the VP levels above him as a result, IBM changed the whole comission structure so that a sales person could not make more then a VP
moral: companies will cut off their noses to spite themselves
beyond this, we are hiringin, and how do you tell if someone is really 5x or whatever better ? it is worse then useless to say that there exists a special class of super programmers if you cant identify them during the hiring process.
uh...what if there are no good os solutions ? uh...what if the poster didn't really know what to ask ? uh.. what if the hundreds of years of experience in the/. community has a better answer then what the posoter wanted ?
uh..what if strict but stupid grammar nazis take other people to task....
back in the 80s, kodak developed an instant film,and to make sure it was not infringing the polaroid patent suite, kodak paid for opinions from 3 seperate law firms
Polaroid sued, Kodak lost, and the opinions did not help them one little bit
or, would you bet your mortgage on the law center getting it right ?
IT is curious how/. posters seem to miss the marketing forest for the technical trees. there are a lot of posts - probably correct - about all the technical goodness or badness of dec and amiga and so forth.
There are two things wrong with this 1st, people who say ibm pc set an open std are largely wrong - the mindset of commodity open stds simply did not exist in the early pc world, the ibm/ms dos was no more std then DR dos or the amiga But even more important, it was not a technical thing: nonone ever lost their job buying ibm if you remeber that period, buying computers from a non ibm source could cost you your job; that is why ibm could charge 6K, compaq 4K (somehow they became the amdahl of the era) and everyone else was 2K (the preceeding paragraph is a little self contradictory: perhaps it would be better to say that IBM created a proprietary std that became an open std, to the HORROR of ibm)
Ibm pcs won because of marketing perceptions, it had nothing whatsoever to do with technical things. finally there is visicalc - what all the posters with comments about bus speed and so forth are missing is that people by computers to do something.
mores law is not a "law" in the sense of the second law of thermodynamics. It is meerly an observation that applys to a particular industry for a relatively short (historical) period of time.
I would wager dollars to donuts that similar "laws" abound in the historical record, on things like miles of railroad track/year, the cost of oil/bbl, etc etc etc
in the 70s, I remember adds for some handheld device, i think it was a dictaphone or something liketht, that had a five finger keyboard with shortcuts for some letters.
I'll bet for the history of keyboard devices - going back to the 1st typewriters in the 1800s if not earlier, there has been acontinual alternate universe of handheld devices with one hand keypads. I'll bet there is even a book about it !!
like IM reinventing what morse code and telegraph users did 100 years ago
I am what you might call a fire fox fan boy/evangelist - I have urged everyone i know, work and non work, to download fire fox - I personally loaded fire fox on about a dozen machines at work.
And then i leardned that mozillia is in bed with the super borg, Googl$e. I think google is evil (i've been saying this for a while, and I bet/. will catch up to me soon) and i think anyone working with them becomes tainted. as a result of the huge cash influx from Googl$e, mozilla has been completely corrupted;i would not be at all surprised to read about 1st class air travel to "conferences" in the carribean for mozilla execs and their "companions" - thats what happens when you deal with the devil.
in other words, i no longer care about fire fox - as far as im concerned, firefox killed itself. Is their a fork I can go to ?
shame on me isnt this an old apple story "cool" stuff that is not well made at a high price ? I don't know which is more offputting - ignorant reviewers like poge of the new york times or stpid consumers who think there is something "cool" in paying a lot of money
the 60s are really gone: what is "cool" about some large company that only cares about overpaying its top execs
how is that cool, other then being part of an evil sick system
no doubt you would not want to force on everyone the idea that the moon is not made of green cheese...creationsim is in the green cheese catagory, just looney nonsense; that you are offended by this does not change the facts (surely you know people who belive in ludicrous nonsense, and are offended if you point this out
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If I can run ff on my 2001 HP laptop,wiht a messed up harddrive with my own install of Windows 2000 on top of Windows ME, ff performance aint the issue.
/.ers reading this can add other features, like builtin support for video (the videolan thing doesn't work very well) ....
worrying about a little performance is a classic geek mistake; people buy features, not performance.
what are features ?
I have poor vision, and Cntrl+ doesnt increase the size of the text in the url window
the poor state of organization of the site where you down load extensions
I'm sure all the non geeky
Or how about better export and save of urls
or
or
remember, people buy features, not performance - if that werent true, how would MS rule the world ?
from science citation index, that aprox half of all journal articles have 1 or 0 citations - this suggests that a large fracton of scienc studies are not worth much (altho you could have a long /. discussion on citation anaylsis)
this is such a bad thing, adding a diff ver of OO, that it might actually be an effort to kill the project...just like linux killed itself with diff distros
a few years ago, there was a story about international reference stds, and how the Kg was the only one that relied on unique object - by comparison, the second and distance are defined by fundamental propertys of atoms; in principal anyone can build an atomic clock and measure time for themselves, though of course in practice it aint easy
anyway, there are whole conferences devoted to what is going to happen to the entire legal scale of weights when this block of iridium in paris is no good
now for the amusing part: every now and then, you actually have to take the Kg out of its special chamber and compare it to a secondary std. There was this old guy in paris who was the only person in the world who could clean the Kg without changing its weight (you can measure a delta )
maybe this guy died
why can't the whole world be made of mom and pop storefronts ?
there are perhaps a small number of things - oil exploration, auto plants, things like that, that require large corporations, but as for things like google, who knows.
as for Google being better, Are the concentration camps of the Boer war beter then
the camps of WW II
as for google being better, that is because they have not yet entered the market place. Despite all the rhetoric about free markets, there is nothing biz people like less then free markets, the goal of every biz is to have a functional monopoly.
When you have companies with functional monopolys, they have enough excess cash to appear good, the prime example is bell labs from ATT/
however, as soon as the monopoly ends, and a biz has to compete, the veneer of nice stuff comes off and the true nature of a biz - a vicious, amoralistic animal that cares only about money - comes out.
It is not that google is evil, it is that large corporations, by their very DNA, are evil - they can't help it, any more then a hyena can help killing its prey by slicing open the belly and letting the prey strangle in it's own entrails.
I personally amresponible for ~ 50 downloads, every computer at work, and geting a lot of friends and family
then i discoverd mozilla has taken large sums from google, the next borg evil overlord
no more downloads for me
google is evil, like ANY large corporation, and I won't be associated with it.
The problem is that most of the math and science is either irrelevant boring or wrong (!)
This is easiest to see in math
Now that we have 5$ calculators, you don't need to know how to do multiplication or division - you just need to know how to apply them.
So what should be taught in math class is to take any random issue of a newspaper or magazine, and find the errors in use of math (eg, the Boston Globe had a front page story on property tax increase that used average increase/household (!!)).
The point is that most kids are not gonna go into math and science (cause there ain't no funding, the day bill gates pays math and science students as much as marketers,and the day we get rid of the incredibly stupid, wrong, racist stereotype that americans are creative and asians are mathy, kids will go into math and science)
So, what they need to know is how to use approx numbers in their lives. math beyond this is like teaching em how to shoe horses - a completely useless outdated skill.
There was an important case, about a year ago, which went to the supreme court, where a man refused to show his ID, or to identify himself to a police officer.
As I remember the court's analysis, you only have to show your ID if you are a suspect or have comitted a crime
although i'm a scientist and a strong proevo person, and i think ID is hypocriticl nonsense, i wonder if the problem is with the pro evo side.
I wonder how well evolution is really explained, with data
I don't think it is very well explained at all
like most /.ers,you have these wierd catagorys of evil and non evil companies.
ALL large companies are the same - the more successfull, the more evil
why is this so ?
while everyone professes to like the free market, businesmen hate the free market and love monopoly - in a free market you have to work harder for less, who in their rigth mind would actually like that ?
So, the 1st thing a company does when it becomes big and succesffull is to use its power to dampen market forces in any way it can.
Now sometimes, when a company is really, really rich and successful, like google or the old AT&T they are so succesfull that they cna hide their evilness behind total monopoly power. but as sooon as their market posistion slips, they beocme evil.
mark my words, you heard it hear 1st: as soon as googles profit starts to fall, andit is no longer a wall street darling, they willl be right in their with MS and GM and whoever.
u gotta remember, these are teenagers who haven't grown up and think sci fi series like stargate sg1 are well acted and well scripted.
if you look at the references in the article, several of the titles suggest that the use of optical means to solve the traveling salesman problem is not new, altho the exact optical setup here is new.
haven't been able to read the /.ed article, but I speculate that it is quite possible they could use a lot less then 100^100 photons
any comments from someone who understands this ?
you have probably heard of Ross Perot
as a kid, he was a salesman for IBM on comission, no cap
he made more then the VP levels above him
as a result, IBM changed the whole comission structure so that a sales person could not make more then a VP
moral: companies will cut off their noses to spite themselves
beyond this, we are hiringin, and how do you tell if someone is really 5x or whatever better ?
it is worse then useless to say that there exists a special class of super programmers if you cant identify them during the hiring process.
one
anyone who thinks thunderbird is up to outlook is wacked out
two
anyone who approves of someone who switches harddrives to swithc an os is wacked out
conclusion: can't trust anyhting he says
uh...what if there are no good os solutions ?
uh...what if the poster didn't really know what to ask ?
uh.. what if the hundreds of years of experience in the/. community has a better answer then what the posoter wanted ?
uh..what if strict but stupid grammar nazis take other people to task....
recent case of dr haneeef, the security forces lied - as was shown in open court - about what suspect said under interrogation.
aussies no better then bush, actually worse, consider treatmetn of aborigines
J K Galbreath says something to this effect in his very amusing advice to a young bearuacrat, excuse spelling errors
back in the 80s, kodak developed an instant film,and to make sure it was not infringing the polaroid patent suite, kodak paid for opinions from 3 seperate law firms
Polaroid sued, Kodak lost, and the opinions did not help them one little bit
or, would you bet your mortgage on the law center getting it right ?
IT is curious how /. posters seem to miss the marketing forest for the technical trees.
there are a lot of posts - probably correct - about all the technical goodness or badness of dec and amiga and so forth.
There are two things wrong with this
1st, people who say ibm pc set an open std are largely wrong - the mindset of commodity open stds simply did not exist in the early pc world, the ibm/ms dos was no more std then DR dos or the amiga
But even more important, it was not a technical thing: nonone ever lost their job buying ibm
if you remeber that period, buying computers from a non ibm source could cost you your job; that is why ibm could charge 6K, compaq 4K (somehow they became the amdahl of the era) and everyone else was 2K
(the preceeding paragraph is a little self contradictory: perhaps it would be better to say that IBM created a proprietary std that became an open std, to the HORROR of ibm)
Ibm pcs won because of marketing perceptions, it had nothing whatsoever to do with technical things.
finally there is visicalc - what all the posters with comments about bus speed and so forth are missing is that people by computers to do something.
mores law is not a "law" in the sense of the second law of thermodynamics.
It is meerly an observation that applys to a particular industry for a relatively short (historical) period of time.
I would wager dollars to donuts that similar "laws" abound in the historical record, on things like miles of railroad track/year, the cost of oil/bbl, etc etc etc
in the 70s, I remember adds for some handheld device, i think it was a dictaphone or something liketht, that had a five finger keyboard with shortcuts for some letters.
I'll bet for the history of keyboard devices - going back to the 1st typewriters in the 1800s if not earlier, there has been acontinual alternate universe of handheld devices with one hand keypads.
I'll bet there is even a book about it !!
like IM reinventing what morse code and telegraph users did 100 years ago
I am what you might call a fire fox fan boy/evangelist - I have urged everyone i know, work and non work, to download fire fox - I personally loaded fire fox on about a dozen machines at work.
/. will catch up to me soon) and i think anyone working with them becomes tainted.
And then i leardned that mozillia is in bed with the super borg, Googl$e.
I think google is evil (i've been saying this for a while, and I bet
as a result of the huge cash influx from Googl$e, mozilla has been completely corrupted;i would not be at all surprised to read about 1st class air travel to "conferences" in the carribean for mozilla execs and their "companions" - thats what happens when you deal with the devil.
in other words, i no longer care about fire fox - as far as im concerned, firefox killed itself.
Is their a fork I can go to ?
I may be a majority of one - time will tell
shame on me
isnt this an old apple story "cool" stuff that is not well made at a high price ?
I don't know which is more offputting - ignorant reviewers like poge of the new york times or stpid consumers who think there is something "cool" in paying a lot of money
the 60s are really gone: what is "cool" about some large company that only cares about overpaying its top execs
how is that cool, other then being part of an evil sick system
no doubt you would not want to force on everyone the idea that the moon is not made of green cheese...creationsim is in the green cheese catagory, just looney nonsense; that you are offended by this does not change the facts (surely you know people who belive in ludicrous nonsense, and are offended if you point this out