windows already does the desktop office thing ok; in any area, getting a new system to replace an old system means the new guy has to be a lot better. So, since linux desktop will never be a lot better then office windows, linux will never win by copying
If you look at the history of software, big changes occur when you get a new app that does something cool.
linux will be on every desktop when it has a new app like visicalc
Maybe I missed it, but I read the K office reply, and it does not seem to me that the K office person actually addressed the issue at hand, which is the origin of the code base. In fact, the K office reply was little more then standard PR speak.
Maybe some expert can confirm this for me, but putting a silicon oxide layer, eg a thin layer of glass, which, as we all know, is pretty hard, on a plastic surface is not that hard. I don't know the real cost, but in the volume apple is talking about, cant be more then a few cents per screen
But if you are buying an ipod, I think you are setting yourself up for a problem. The ipod is a fashion statement, that is, you are paying money to buy somehting only because other people have bought it. If you buy fashion, as every women who , usually in her 30s, wakes up to the ripoff called womens fashion knows, you get what you deserve.
any adult who buys something as stupid and overpriced as an ipod not only deserves what they get, but should,just on prinicple, be made to suffer as much as possible
i made the mistake of promising my daughter an ipod, without understanding what an unbeliveable piece of shit, rip opp, frashion statemtn piece of garbage ipod is. Any adult who buys this shit FULLY deserves what they get.
It si like any high priced thing that is fashionable: you are paying a huge premium because yoou dont have enough fortitude and backbone to resist what other, stupid people are doing just because a lot of other stupid people are doing it.
I could go on, but the very moderate, temperate comments above, shoud do
if you go to the mandriva web stie (and you know with a long, hard to prounuce and spell name, aint got long for this world) you can follow one of the review links to.... (during install) All hardware, such as graphics and sound, are configured and tested at this point. It's essential that the correct resolution for your monitor is chosen here as it isn't possible to change it to use a higher one without returning to the installation process.
Is this for real ? I can't believe that you have to set monitor res during install.
Just look at the link provided in the article "The company initially decided to build a very unique sort of personal computer: the second prototype had a custom motherboard with two AT&T "Hobbit" 9309A RISC-like CPUs and three 9309S Digital Signal Processors (DSPs)"
Very Unique ?
First rule of thumb: if they can't avoid howlers on their home page, ignore them
smart comment. I have always thought that the success of the mac had much to do with the ease with wchich you could print out large font docs In my memory, early (1990) pcs could not print docs with large (>20) point font, and this was easy to do on a mac; for those of us who needed this feature, it was a godsend
You can find information about where to obtain such updates from your PC's (or motherboard's) user manual, on the driver CD included with the PC (or motherboard) or on the vendor's Website." yeah, right...
Is it a co - incidence that this appears next to a story about how people not invited to the foo camp set up a salon des refuses ?
Perhaps there should be bizzaro/., where the real stupid stories can appear, like, perpetual motion machine patent squelched, the plutocrates are sitting on anti gravity, razor blade that lasts forever, 100 mpg carburetor,.etc.
this thread points out the need for a wiki archive; on historical/scholarship grounds this aritcle should not be deleted into nothing, but deleted into the archive - or am i unaware of, say, the wiki snapshot, that takes asnapshot of thew ikipedia every 15 minutes..
I think there is a point where you are clearly wrong: evolution cant produce new genes. In fact, rare gene duplication events (which might be at the gene level, say tansposon mediated, or at a larger chromosomal level mediated by inverted repeats in dna sequence) provide material for NEW genes.. I'm sorry , a lot of your other arguments are just not that good..for instance bacteria have had more GENERARATIONS to evolve, so they could simultaneously have been the first primitive organisms, back then, and the most advanced, now..
What experiment would show ID to be wrong ? That is, you have to propose an experiment that has at least two outcomes, one of which would proove ID to be incorrect. The experiment can be a gedanken one, eg, a lot of cosmology makes predictions that can only be tested by, say,close observation of a black hole, so as a practical matter, you cant actually do the experiment, but these are still testable experiments - in principal, to test Einsteins general relativity, the entire human race could build a asteroid ship, send it out for 10 milliion years to get to some distant star, get the data, and find an answer
"2 weeks to get installed" can you tell me specifically what advantages you have in a laptop that justify 2 weeks of work ? even assuming zero maintenance for bsd (ha !) and 30 mins every 2 week for windows (windows update + norton) it is hard to see the advantage, particularly given the wealth of windows apps and ease of communicating with others
well, i have this wierd thing, u go to a web site and sign up for a service and get software, the website shd explain what the software does...I guess I am old fashioned in actually expecting but i guess for a snotty geek like yourself, expecting a web site to actually work is way to simplistic, sort of like all those morons who think excel is not a goood way to do data storage
and will report on journal anything of note. give their web site a C- for clarity - lots of confusing steps that are non sequential requires manual forward of spam - no one click button installed in email client requries install of thier software - not sure what it does
you may be right. On the other hand, if you are usng windows 98 or 2000, and have a wireless card, and a external cd or dvd burner, etc, spending (not 400) but 600 may in fact relieve you of many software headaches
the problem is not hte reset button; it is easy enough for a minimaly competent person to wipe and reinstall with the right disk
the problem is all the changes since you bought the machine, particularly all the 3rd party software you installed, adn for which you no longer have disks, or passwords or whatever. not to mention all the upgrades to get your 3 year old card or whatever to work - where on earth do you find all that stuff just recovering your bookmarks could take hours if you don't know how to make sure the exported bookmarks file is clean.
only intelligent comment in thread yet again, the/. community doesnt get it - its about marketing, not technolgy; technology has nothing to do withit until people stop buying MS IE, ms will have incentives to screw others - its biz 101
NO major company is ethical - companies are darwinian beasts that evolve to make money; if making software that excludes others works, they will do that. complaining about it is like complaining that humans have only 2 legs. Its just the way it is.
Gaius Lucius Aetor, prefect of rome, decries the jargon laden language infesting the shools where young romans are taught. Say Lucius "It is time to strike back against this meaningless business jargon, which substitutes platitudes for thought"
if you go to nasa and use the search for "niac" the top few hits are dead links....way to go nasa eventually, you will wind up here, which is a one paragraph proposal.
http://www.niac.usra.edu/files/studies/abstracts/1 147Smith.pdf there does not seem to be more info available, even tho this is public money. totally inappropriate - that my tax dollars should be spent on ill described and secret research, the proposals for which are not even public. does this mean any wanker who can pen a paragraph that sounds good can get 50K
who do not turn on their encyrption/firewall what ever I did turn this stuff on , and things went to hell in a handbasket so, as in most cases where "lazy users" are blamed, the problem is actually crappy software/hardware
(would we blame people for not using seatbelts if you had to spend 5 minutes adjusting them every day ?
Lets assume that the hysterical advice of the MD/cancer people is correct (read the official advice of the acs: don't go out in the sun between 10 and 2 for more then 15 minutes - completely rediculous)
Suncsreen covers a large surface area It is in some sort of cream which might have permeation properties - that is, it helps chemicals across the skin, which is normally impermeable
the chemicals themselves, which are photoactive, have probably, the protests o fthe industry and the bush industry complaisant epa nonwithstanding, not recieved proper vetting
the chemicals are phtoactive
the chemicals may be contaminated with trace amounts of highly active and toxic chemicals.
Basically , we are using the human population as guinea pigs in a giant experiment to see if sun block helps; moreover, it is a poorly planned experiment, so the data will probably be useless.
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windows already does the desktop office thing ok; in any area, getting a new system to replace an old system means the new guy has to be a lot better.
So, since linux desktop will never be a lot better then office windows, linux will never win by copying
If you look at the history of software, big changes occur when you get a new app that does something cool.
linux will be on every desktop when it has a new app like visicalc
Maybe I missed it, but I read the K office reply, and it does not seem to me that the K office person actually addressed the issue at hand, which is the origin of the code base.
In fact, the K office reply was little more then standard PR speak.
Maybe some expert can confirm this for me, but putting a silicon oxide layer, eg a thin layer of glass, which, as we all know, is pretty hard, on a plastic surface is not that hard. I don't know the real cost, but in the volume apple is talking about, cant be more then a few cents per screen
But if you are buying an ipod, I think you are setting yourself up for a problem. The ipod is a fashion statement, that is, you are paying money to buy somehting only because other people have bought it. If you buy fashion, as every women who , usually in her 30s, wakes up to the ripoff called womens fashion knows, you get what you deserve.
any adult who buys something as stupid and overpriced as an ipod not only deserves what they get, but should,just on prinicple, be made to suffer as much as possible
i made the mistake of promising my daughter an ipod, without understanding what an unbeliveable piece of shit, rip opp, frashion statemtn piece of garbage ipod is.
Any adult who buys this shit FULLY deserves what they get.
It si like any high priced thing that is fashionable: you are paying a huge premium because yoou dont have enough fortitude and backbone to resist what other, stupid people are doing just because a lot of other stupid people are doing it.
I could go on, but the very moderate, temperate comments above, shoud do
if you go to the mandriva web stie (and you know with a long, hard to prounuce and spell name, aint got long for this world) you can follow one of the review links to....
(during install)
All hardware, such as graphics and sound, are configured and tested at this point. It's essential that the correct resolution for your monitor is chosen here as it isn't possible to change it to use a higher one without returning to the installation process.
Is this for real ? I can't believe that you have to set monitor res during install.
Just look at the link provided in the article
"The company initially decided to build a very unique sort of personal computer: the second prototype had a custom motherboard with two AT&T "Hobbit" 9309A RISC-like CPUs and three 9309S Digital Signal Processors (DSPs)"
Very Unique ?
First rule of thumb: if they can't avoid howlers on their home page, ignore them
smart comment. I have always thought that the success of the mac had much to do with the ease with wchich you could print out large font docs
In my memory, early (1990) pcs could not print docs with large (>20) point font, and this was easy to do on a mac; for those of us who needed this feature, it was a godsend
You can find information about where to obtain such updates from your PC's (or motherboard's) user manual, on the driver CD included with the PC (or motherboard) or on the vendor's Website."
yeah, right...
Is it a co - incidence that this appears next to a story about how people not invited to the foo camp set up a salon des refuses ?
/., where the real stupid stories can appear, like, perpetual motion machine patent squelched, the plutocrates are sitting on anti gravity, razor blade that lasts forever, 100 mpg carburetor,.etc.
Perhaps there should be bizzaro
this thread points out the need for a wiki archive; on historical/scholarship grounds this aritcle should not be deleted into nothing, but deleted into the archive - or am i unaware of, say, the wiki snapshot, that takes asnapshot of thew ikipedia every 15 minutes..
for the 100th time,it is difficult to compare costs for a commodity item produced in the dekamillions to something new.
I think there is a point where you are clearly wrong: evolution cant produce new genes. In fact, rare gene duplication events (which might be at the gene level, say tansposon mediated, or at a larger chromosomal level mediated by inverted repeats in dna sequence) provide material for NEW genes..
I'm sorry , a lot of your other arguments are just not that good..for instance bacteria have had more GENERARATIONS to evolve, so they could simultaneously have been the first primitive organisms, back then, and the most advanced, now..
What experiment would show ID to be wrong ? That is, you have to propose an experiment that has at least two outcomes, one of which would proove ID to be incorrect.
The experiment can be a gedanken one, eg, a lot of cosmology makes predictions that can only be tested by, say,close observation of a black hole, so as a practical matter, you cant actually do the experiment, but these are still testable experiments - in principal, to test Einsteins general relativity, the entire human race could build a asteroid ship, send it out for 10 milliion years to get to some distant star, get the data, and find an answer
So, what is your experiment ?
"2 weeks to get installed" can you tell me specifically what advantages you have in a laptop that justify 2 weeks of work ?
even assuming zero maintenance for bsd (ha !) and 30 mins every 2 week for windows (windows update + norton) it is hard to see the advantage, particularly given the wealth of windows apps and ease of communicating with others
well, i have this wierd thing, u go to a web site and sign up for a service and get software, the website shd explain what the software does...I guess I am old fashioned in actually expecting
but i guess for a snotty geek like yourself, expecting a web site to actually work is way to simplistic, sort of like all those morons who think excel is not a goood way to do data storage
and will report on journal anything of note.
give their web site a C- for clarity - lots of confusing steps that are non sequential
requires manual forward of spam - no one click button installed in email client
requries install of thier software - not sure what it does
you may be right. On the other hand, if you are usng windows 98 or 2000, and have a wireless card, and a external cd or dvd burner, etc, spending (not 400) but 600 may in fact relieve you of many software headaches
the problem is not hte reset button; it is easy enough for a minimaly competent person to wipe and reinstall with the right disk
the problem is all the changes since you bought the machine, particularly all the 3rd party software you installed, adn for which you no longer have disks, or passwords or whatever. not to mention all the upgrades to get your 3 year old card or whatever to work - where on earth do you find all that stuff
just recovering your bookmarks could take hours if you don't know how to make sure the exported bookmarks file is clean.
only intelligent comment in thread /. community doesnt get it - its about marketing, not technolgy; technology has nothing to do withit
yet again, the
until people stop buying MS IE, ms will have incentives to screw others - its biz 101
NO major company is ethical - companies are darwinian beasts that evolve to make money; if making software that excludes others works, they will do that. complaining about it is like complaining that humans have only 2 legs. Its just the way it is.
most people have great powers of self justification; it is a rare person indeed who can admit, without threat of jail, that they did wrong
hard to take seriously people who don't have the slightest idea of what significant digits means
Gaius Lucius Aetor, prefect of rome, decries the jargon laden language infesting the shools where young romans are taught. Say Lucius "It is time to strike back against this meaningless business jargon, which substitutes platitudes for thought"
if you go to nasa and use the search for "niac" the top few hits are dead links....way to go nasa
1 147Smith.pdf
eventually, you will wind up here, which is a one paragraph proposal.
http://www.niac.usra.edu/files/studies/abstracts/
there does not seem to be more info available, even tho this is public money. totally inappropriate - that my tax dollars should be spent on ill described and secret research, the proposals for which are not even public.
does this mean any wanker who can pen a paragraph that sounds good can get 50K
who do not turn on their encyrption/firewall what ever
I did turn this stuff on , and things went to hell in a handbasket
so, as in most cases where "lazy users" are blamed, the problem is actually crappy software/hardware
(would we blame people for not using seatbelts if you had to spend 5 minutes adjusting them every day ?
Lets assume that the hysterical advice of the MD/cancer people is correct (read the official advice of the acs: don't go out in the sun between 10 and 2 for more then 15 minutes - completely rediculous)
Suncsreen covers a large surface area
It is in some sort of cream which might have permeation properties - that is, it helps chemicals across the skin, which is normally impermeable
the chemicals themselves, which are photoactive, have probably, the protests o fthe industry and the bush industry complaisant epa nonwithstanding, not recieved proper vetting
the chemicals are phtoactive
the chemicals may be contaminated with trace amounts of highly active and toxic chemicals.
Basically , we are using the human population as guinea pigs in a giant experiment to see if sun block helps; moreover, it is a poorly planned experiment, so the data will probably be useless.
Moral: wear a hat and take an umbrella