OpenBSD - You are a paranoid schizophrenic and you think everyone is out to get you. You consider your pores security holes
NetBSD - You take solace in the fact your operating system can run on playstation2 and dreamcast and is thus superior.
m0n0wall - You are the Calista Flockhart of the BSD world. You like to keep your base at six megabytes because anything more would be bloated.
Dragonfly BSD - You are a rebel without a clue. You are against the status quo establishment and all the conformist sheep that follow it. Anybody who questions your judgment can go fork themselves.
FreeBSD-CURRENT - You are a crusader, living on the bleeding edge of the Open Source revolution. You build worlds, merge masters, and slay kernel panic modes with nothing more than an UPDATAING file to defend you.
FreeBSD-STABLE - You are a corporate whore... caring more about production, stability, and uptime than any reasonable person. Your if it ain't broke don't fix it mentality makes OS developers ponder the true purpose and meaning of their life quests.
The love affair started with FreeBSD 4.5. Now years later I administer two production servers running FreeBSD 4.10. I have a server at home running FreeBSD 5.2.1 with 549 ports installed and running flawlessly in unison.
I have tried most common flavors of Linux. Some are nice, but something keeps me coming back to BSD.
It was love at/usr/ports/
It had me at pkg_get -r
No Red Hat, Fedora, Slackware, Gentoo, SuSE, Debian or Mandrake could give me that same feeling. Call it a personal preference, call it zealotry. But FreeBSD has won my heart.
I agree that most average users don't need to absolutely quantify the quality of their camera. But there are a select bunch of folks that want to scientifically analyze the quality of their imaging device.
Subjective measurement will get you so far, but the eye is easily tricked by things like sharpening algorithms.
For those who do wish to quantify the many dimensions of image quality, my company produces a piece of software called Imatest that analyzes these charts.
It also analyzes your Gretag Macbeth color chart, overlaying the ideal colors on top of a test image and showing how far off each sample is in the spectrum. The program is quite a handful, and not for the faint of heart, but some extreme photo geeks have found it to be a useful tool.
So if my X86 servers running FreeBSD all run flawlessly, and FreeBSD is in the core of OSX, what would stop it from being strong competition to windows? Why would Apple stop when such a wide range of users from beginner to professional prefer OSX? Why would apple thumb it's nose at such a massive potential market?
Does Apple really think they wouldn't be able to snag awesome deals with OEM hardware manufacturers like Microsoft does currently?
Does Apple really think their nifty hardware and industrial designis what makes their computers so great, not their awesome OS and its BSD forged core of stability?
Does Apple simply want to be Complacent as Linux and Microsoft dominate the throngs of X86 Sheep?
Or does Apple want to be the the ones that bring the joys of FresBSD to the masses... A pleasure up to now confined to a select few of the computing elite!
Call me a zealot fanboy! Mod me down! You shal only make FreeBSD become more powerful than you could have ever imagined! *** EVIL LAUGH ***
How did this guy get modded insightful? By having proper grammar?
If you want a firewall or a gateway, you can't go wrong with OpenBSD. If you want a nice fast workstation or a high-load network server Get yourself a copy of FreeBSD-STABLE (the 4.X series) or track DragonFly's development. If you want to see BSD die, get a copy of FreeBSD-RELEASE (the 5.X series)
This poster is slinging poo, but has he even tried 5.X or does he just not like it's "goals"?
The 5.1 gateway server I have running at my company has performed flawlessly.
The 5.2.1 server I have at my home has 547 packages on it, and is used as a desktop machine as well as a server. It also is an excellent performer.
So where does the hate for 5.X come for? I'd really like to know.
I'm a FreeBSD zealot, and I'm proud of it. What's bad for BSD is the forking and the in-fighting amongst the leaders of the respective forks who can't come to a consensus on their "goals". Parallel efforts are a waste. We need unity in the BSD community. And that means supporting the most prominent release: FreeBSD, not some disgruntled developers fork of an older version.
How many positions on opperating systems have they had? First they're for the Linux... then they're against it. They try to explain their position with double-speak talking about hundreds of different types of distributions. How can they expect to lead the business world when they do nothing but Flip Flop?
If this company is not for Linux freedom, this company is an enemy of Linux freedom. There are squads of vicious microsoft sales reps that want this company to succeed, and we must not let that happen.
We are forging a new world where all people of can benefit from the freedoms of Linux. Linux is turning the corner... We cannot let this small band of Microsoft thugs repress these companies any longer.
The unit can be viewed as a hydraulic pump in which the housing and an annular piston are connected to one shaft and a piston actuator is connected to the other.
The two shafts are connected via the wet multi-plate clutch pack, normally unloaded and thus transferring no torque between the shafts.
When both shafts are rotating at the same speed, there is no pumping action. When a speed difference occurs, the pumping starts immediately to generate oil flow. It is a piston pump, so there is a virtually instant reaction with no low-speed pumping loss.
The oil flows to a clutch piston, compressing the clutch pack and braking the speed difference between the axles. The oil returns to the reservoir via a controllable valve, which adjusts the oil pressure and the force on the clutch package.
Something tells me having hydralic fluid that turns solid when it gets hot wouldn't help a system like this:-)
Word has it from an undisclosed AT&T employeee, The new VOIP system does not support being behind a router or NAT.
Also according to him, the whole company has one foot in the grave and another on a bananna peel. He says they'll be bankrupt within the decade.
I guess it's hard for a beheamoth like AT&T to have the agility to succeed in todays market. Especially when the technologies they implement are fundamentally flawed.
As long as the electoral college is in place and we haven't started doing instant runoffs, we're stuck with a two party political system. Like it or not, thats what we have. So you have the choice to vote for the lesser of two evils, cast a meaningless protest vote for a third party candidate, or just choose apathy.
I would think that the air pressure of the heilocopter going above the parachute would quickly cause the chute to fold up and send the probe crashing to the ground.
After much searching on suse's support site... I found: NOTHING! But as you recommended I removed the kdemultimedia mixer. Then deleted my sond device, added it again, rebooted, then sound worked! hip hip, horay!
Unfortunately, this sucks major donkey balls. What an absolutely horrible ordeal I went through to get this problem fixed. And to think: I had to ASK SLASHDOT to find the real solution.
No, Linux is not ready for average users yet. At least not SuSE linux. It's got a LONG way to go.:(
I have an onboard intel 810 AC97 sound card. Installed SuSE 9.1 via ISO. I started with a basic install, and everything worked fine with sound. Then I went to install the rest of the packages on the 5 CD's. After this... Sound was gone. The funny thing is that the sound card is still detected and it's module is loaded. Also, the mixer works, because I can turn up the microphone and get feedback. But NO SOUND other than that.
I spent hours trying to probe sound modules, reconfigure ALSA, reload my sound card drivers, etc. to no avail.
Like a confused windows user, my last resort was to re-install the opperating system. I did so, and it worked fine, until I installed the rest of the available packages. Then: Silence.
I'm about to shit-can SuSE because of this. It's unfortunate that this OS isn't ready for your average Joe Blow computer user because of critical problems like these.
Example: The 2002 Audi A6 Twin Turbo - 230 horsepower. The 2002 Audi S4 Twin Turbo - 250 horsepower. Both are 2.7 Liter twin turbos, all that differs is the horsepower.
Example: In 2000, Volkswagen released their first version of the Audi 1.8 Turbo motor. Using a small K03 turbo, they tuned it to 150 horsepower. In late 2002 Volkswagen released the AWW engine code which was still tuned to 150 horsepower but had a larger turbo and downpipe. Then in 2003 VW released the AWP engine code, which is mechanically identical to the AWW but has it's Turbo Wastegate programmed to produce 180 horsepower.
The thirty extra horsepower Required significant mechanical changes, not just software. It just happens that the VW engineers made the mechanical upgrade a half a year before their marketing department felt it was time for the upgrade.
The typical aftermarket 1.8 Turbo chip bosts to around ~200 horsepower.
The most powerful Audi 1.8T you can buy is 225 horsepower, which is acomplished through a larger turbo and dual Intercoolers, in addition to software.
The 1.8 Turbo Motor has been boosted to over 400 horsepower. Software had little to do with this kind of power.
It's really not as simple as togeling a flag on some embedded firmware. Sure, chips are good for a little extra power, but If you turn up the boost a lot with software alone, you are asking for big trouble. Blown Turbos, Voided Waranty.
If you will note, the story gives the source of the minimum specs as:
"developer sources close to the company"
So if the author article defines "developer" and "close" as loosely as she did "source", this little tidbit of minimum specification could could have come from pretty much anywhere.
It's worthless anti-MS FUD like this, backed up by absolutely no journalistic integrity that tarnishes the image of slashdot.
I tried Mandrake 10 Community but found that nothing I could do would make my C-Media AC97 onboard audio work.
Long story short, After much toiling with audio driver setup and a couple kernel rebuilds, the thing still didn't work. So I Fdisked it.
I guess that's what I get for trying the non-final "community" release of mandrake.
This audio card worked perfectly under Knoppix STD, so I'm thinking this could be a problem with hardware support in the new ALSA enabled 2.6 kernel distros.
Its not a failure of the documentation, or the user, its a failure of the opperating system. Sound really should "Just Work".
Its too bad that distros damage their credibility, along with Linux's, by creating flawed releases.
The Bush administration has announced Phase 3 of their plan: The final solution.
The homeless will be herded onto trains and shipped to texas for "free showers".
Bush had but one word to say about phase 3 of his plan: "Profit"
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To think I once considered myself a daemon-worshiping zealot.... I got nothing on you buddy! :-D
OpenBSD - You are a paranoid schizophrenic and you think everyone is out to get you. You consider your pores security holes
NetBSD - You take solace in the fact your operating system can run on playstation2 and dreamcast and is thus superior.
m0n0wall - You are the Calista Flockhart of the BSD world. You like to keep your base at six megabytes because anything more would be bloated.
Dragonfly BSD - You are a rebel without a clue. You are against the status quo establishment and all the conformist sheep that follow it. Anybody who questions your judgment can go fork themselves.
FreeBSD-CURRENT - You are a crusader, living on the bleeding edge of the Open Source revolution. You build worlds, merge masters, and slay kernel panic modes with nothing more than an UPDATAING file to defend you.
FreeBSD-STABLE - You are a corporate whore... caring more about production, stability, and uptime than any reasonable person. Your if it ain't broke don't fix it mentality makes OS developers ponder the true purpose and meaning of their life quests.
I have tried most common flavors of Linux. Some are nice, but something keeps me coming back to BSD.
It was love at /usr/ports/
It had me at pkg_get -r
No Red Hat, Fedora, Slackware, Gentoo, SuSE, Debian or Mandrake could give me that same feeling. Call it a personal preference, call it zealotry. But FreeBSD has won my heart.
BSD I love you...
Subjective measurement will get you so far, but the eye is easily tricked by things like sharpening algorithms.
For those who do wish to quantify the many dimensions of image quality, my company produces a piece of software called Imatest that analyzes these charts.
www.imatest.com
It also analyzes your Gretag Macbeth color chart, overlaying the ideal colors on top of a test image and showing how far off each sample is in the spectrum. The program is quite a handful, and not for the faint of heart, but some extreme photo geeks have found it to be a useful tool.
Regards,
Henry Koren
Imatest LLC
Does Apple really think they wouldn't be able to snag awesome deals with OEM hardware manufacturers like Microsoft does currently?
Does Apple really think their nifty hardware and industrial designis what makes their computers so great, not their awesome OS and its BSD forged core of stability?
Does Apple simply want to be Complacent as Linux and Microsoft dominate the throngs of X86 Sheep?
Or does Apple want to be the the ones that bring the joys of FresBSD to the masses... A pleasure up to now confined to a select few of the computing elite!
Call me a zealot fanboy! Mod me down! You shal only make FreeBSD become more powerful than you could have ever imagined!
*** EVIL LAUGH ***
The 5.1 gateway server I have running at my company has performed flawlessly.
The 5.2.1 server I have at my home has 547 packages on it, and is used as a desktop machine as well as a server. It also is an excellent performer.
So where does the hate for 5.X come for? I'd really like to know.
I'm a FreeBSD zealot, and I'm proud of it. What's bad for BSD is the forking and the in-fighting amongst the leaders of the respective forks who can't come to a consensus on their "goals". Parallel efforts are a waste. We need unity in the BSD community. And that means supporting the most prominent release: FreeBSD, not some disgruntled developers fork of an older version.
How many positions on opperating systems have they had? First they're for the Linux... then they're against it. They try to explain their position with double-speak talking about hundreds of different types of distributions. How can they expect to lead the business world when they do nothing but Flip Flop?
If this company is not for Linux freedom, this company is an enemy of Linux freedom. There are squads of vicious microsoft sales reps that want this company to succeed, and we must not let that happen.
We are forging a new world where all people of can benefit from the freedoms of Linux. Linux is turning the corner... We cannot let this small band of Microsoft thugs repress these companies any longer.
From Haldex:
Something tells me having hydralic fluid that turns solid when it gets hot wouldn't help a system like thisAlso according to him, the whole company has one foot in the grave and another on a bananna peel. He says they'll be bankrupt within the decade.
I guess it's hard for a beheamoth like AT&T to have the agility to succeed in todays market. Especially when the technologies they implement are fundamentally flawed.
As long as the electoral college is in place and we haven't started doing instant runoffs, we're stuck with a two party political system. Like it or not, thats what we have. So you have the choice to vote for the lesser of two evils, cast a meaningless protest vote for a third party candidate, or just choose apathy.
Looks like you've made your decision.
I would think that the air pressure of the heilocopter going above the parachute would quickly cause the chute to fold up and send the probe crashing to the ground.
Purely by luck; I was on an Amtrak train between San Luis Obispo and San Diego when I witnessed a rocket launching out of Vandenburg.
Not something you see every day!!
Did they just say "entirely in C" and "assured of predictable behavior" in the same context?
o_0
The only thing better than writing everything in C is how it supports BEOS and OS/2!
on freebsd 5.2.1.... APR is required to build:
devel/gmake
devel/automake18
devel/autoconf259
devel/libtool15
so I guess most people don't even realize that APR is one of the fundamental building blocks of all open source applications.
Its too bad it only incldes basic low-level data structure functionality so far.
list of all APR modules
But then again I guess that's the point of this project. Anything to make C coders lives easier is a good thing!
A bigger slice of nothing is still nothing.
Reminds me of fly by night dot-bomb executives trying to appease their employees by giving them tantalizing (restricted) stock options.
Then pumping, dumping, and running like hell.
Thanks for your advice!
:(
After much searching on suse's support site... I found: NOTHING! But as you recommended I removed the kdemultimedia mixer. Then deleted my sond device, added it again, rebooted, then sound worked! hip hip, horay!
Unfortunately, this sucks major donkey balls. What an absolutely horrible ordeal I went through to get this problem fixed. And to think: I had to ASK SLASHDOT to find the real solution.
No, Linux is not ready for average users yet. At least not SuSE linux. It's got a LONG way to go.
I have an onboard intel 810 AC97 sound card. Installed SuSE 9.1 via ISO. I started with a basic install, and everything worked fine with sound. Then I went to install the rest of the packages on the 5 CD's. After this... Sound was gone. The funny thing is that the sound card is still detected and it's module is loaded. Also, the mixer works, because I can turn up the microphone and get feedback. But NO SOUND other than that.
I spent hours trying to probe sound modules, reconfigure ALSA, reload my sound card drivers, etc. to no avail.
Like a confused windows user, my last resort was to re-install the opperating system. I did so, and it worked fine, until I installed the rest of the available packages. Then: Silence.
I'm about to shit-can SuSE because of this. It's unfortunate that this OS isn't ready for your average Joe Blow computer user because of critical problems like these.
-Henry
Naming convention in C++: Constants in ALL CAPS
Let Microsoft spread all the FUD Propaganda they want.
It only shows how they are shitting their pants about the inevitable Linux domination.
Example: The 2002 Audi A6 Twin Turbo - 230 horsepower. The 2002 Audi S4 Twin Turbo - 250 horsepower. Both are 2.7 Liter twin turbos, all that differs is the horsepower.
Example:
In 2000, Volkswagen released their first version of the Audi 1.8 Turbo motor. Using a small K03 turbo, they tuned it to 150 horsepower. In late 2002 Volkswagen released the AWW engine code which was still tuned to 150 horsepower but had a larger turbo and downpipe. Then in 2003 VW released the AWP engine code, which is mechanically identical to the AWW but has it's Turbo Wastegate programmed to produce 180 horsepower.
The thirty extra horsepower Required significant mechanical changes, not just software. It just happens that the VW engineers made the mechanical upgrade a half a year before their marketing department felt it was time for the upgrade.
The typical aftermarket 1.8 Turbo chip bosts to around ~200 horsepower.
The most powerful Audi 1.8T you can buy is 225 horsepower, which is acomplished through a larger turbo and dual Intercoolers, in addition to software.
The 1.8 Turbo Motor has been boosted to over 400 horsepower. Software had little to do with this kind of power.
It's really not as simple as togeling a flag on some embedded firmware. Sure, chips are good for a little extra power, but If you turn up the boost a lot with software alone, you are asking for big trouble. Blown Turbos, Voided Waranty.
-Henry Koren - VWVortex Forum Moderator
If you will note, the story gives the source of the minimum specs as:
"developer sources close to the company"
So if the author article defines "developer" and "close" as loosely as she did "source", this little tidbit of minimum specification could could have come from pretty much anywhere.
It's worthless anti-MS FUD like this, backed up by absolutely no journalistic integrity that tarnishes the image of slashdot.
You should have installed the STAGE 1 BINARY build.
You should have used emerge -k when you installed your packages.
I guess Gentoo linux is not really for you, because you didn't RTFM enough to find out about these basic options.
This aired last Friday on public radio:
Talk Of The Nation Science Friday
Seek to 27:30 for the start of the audio program on Frame Dragging.
This is a real problem.
I tried Mandrake 10 Community but found that nothing I could do would make my C-Media AC97 onboard audio work.
Long story short, After much toiling with audio driver setup and a couple kernel rebuilds, the thing still didn't work. So I Fdisked it.
I guess that's what I get for trying the non-final "community" release of mandrake.
This audio card worked perfectly under Knoppix STD, so I'm thinking this could be a problem with hardware support in the new ALSA enabled 2.6 kernel distros.
Its not a failure of the documentation, or the user, its a failure of the opperating system. Sound really should "Just Work".
Its too bad that distros damage their credibility, along with Linux's, by creating flawed releases.
There are some programs I expected to be on this distro that aren't.
Tethereal The X version "ethereal" is there, but I've always prefered the text based ethereal
Etherape A cool visual traffic monitor.
Other than that, LAS Linux is pretty cool!
The Bush administration has announced Phase 3 of their plan: The final solution. The homeless will be herded onto trains and shipped to texas for "free showers". Bush had but one word to say about phase 3 of his plan: "Profit"