While this is modded as Funny, I think that they main reason, why they don't fix it, is simple: They don't get money for fixing. They get money for releasing upgrades with new features (and new bugs).
Possible solution: Software-leasing/renting. With the right to choose between x-office-with-the-latest-bells-and-whistles and y-office-i-know-it-and-it-has-zero-bugs. I'm sure, that many will pick y-office. That might be the time, the software industry starts thinking about bug free software, because it might pay off.
Bye egghat.
Source based vs. Binary based: Possible compromise
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This isn't meant to be trolling...
With the previous discussion whether source based distros or binary distros are better I wonder, why you can't simply download a binary distro and recompile all important packages from the Source RPMS. So you can get the comfort from e.g. Mandrake with the efficiency of e.g. Gentoo.
Is it a possible way to enhance a binary based distibution with a recompilation feature?
traceroute www.strato.de (or a tracert if you're under Windows). Seems to be OK at least for now and we're one hour behind their possible shutdown time.
I'm quite astonished that noone seems to mention, that a German consortium is building a Maglev train in China (Shanghai Airport -- City) and that there will be two Transrapid routes in Germany, one in Munich (Airport -- City) and one in the Ruhrregion between Dortmund and Duesseldorf. Shanghai should be ready in less than a year and the two German routes should be ready for the Soccer World Championship in 2006.
You can find more info on the website of Transrapid in English or German.
5% less heat when changing the production process from 0,18 to 0,13 is IMHO a big disappointment.
When AMD announced the new Mobile Athlons the new core seemed to be very promising. Core voltage down significantly, power consumption down significantly. Now the core voltage is just decreased by a mere 0,1 volt and power consumption down by less than 10%.
Very frustrating! Especially when you know, that AMD ships 1,5 Volt-Athlons to NEC for Low-Noise-Office-PCs for Japan.
AMD, LISTEN UP:
Deliver those Low-Voltage-Athlons to all of us. If I could chose between an Athlon 1.8 Gig 1,75 Volt (60 watt) and an Athlon 1,7 Gig and 1,5 Volt (40 watt), I would definetly buy the the 1,5 Volt version. And I am sure, that I'm not the only one who would prefer a quiter PC for 5 % more performance.
Hmmm, most people say, that the only downside of Shuttle's systems is that they are not quiet. The SS40 is the first system that has been designed for quietness.
Shuttle listens carefully (I've seen guys from shuttle in various discussion boards) and they now build the new machines (SS40) with a heat pipe. So they only need two fans (IIRC there were three in the former models). And at least the one in the PSU seems to be very quiet now. And they have integrated fan speed control into the board. So the fan won't run faster than it needs to. Very cool.
IMHO, it is mainly a move to save the costs of maintaining 4 different distributions. Let Connectiva do South America, SuSE Europe (they are big here!), Turbolinux Asia and Caldera North America.
NO! This is exactly the point. I'm German and able to understand the court's decision.
When you publish stuff to your MSN homepage, copyright and ownership are transferred to Microsoft. And therefore Microsoft is the one to blame. Not the user. The court has been very precise on this.
That's it. The rest will come from the united league of open source gods...
Samba would be 100% complete, if all protocols were 100% documented. The same for import/export filters for MS Office. The same for an Exchange clone. The same for Active Directory. The same for Win32Api.
You don't need to split up MS. You don't need to dictate prices. You don't need to modularize Windows. Document everything 100%. And the monopoly will be gone in a few years.
Way cool I thought. Until I discovered, that you need a special version of U/Win which costs money. OK they promise to reintigrate sources with AT&T original version. Then you could use AT&T original U/Win. But for now: Commercial stuff.
the price difference between these two is pure marketing. Production costs are virtually the same. As Intel dominates the market, AMD can't afford to establish a different pricing scheme. Celerons crippled (FSB) and cheap, P3s full speed and expensive.
If AMD replaces the Durons with cheap Athlon, I don't see any problem. Despite of Intel which will get problems selling their crippled stuff.
The problem: Microsoft is one of the few companies on this planet who can afford to introduce bad products to the market and still won't go bancrupt.
Cause they have 39 billion dollar cash earned from a monopoly, where they dictate prices and where they get billions of dollars every year from so called microsoft tax, for which they don't even need someone to sell it. The computer manufacturers do it on hehalf of Microsoft.
Every other direct competitor of Microsoft (probably with the exception of IBM) would be bancrupt for years if they had a comparable rate of failures in their history. Any many of Microsoft's competitors made minor mistakes and are out of the market nevertheless...
... subscribers, to keep their level of support for open source constant.
I wouldn't call this a success.
We need less dublication of efforts (gazillions of distributions).
And we need distros, that refocus on the hard things (hardware detection, setup of X, printing, adsl sharing, etc.) and not the 4th distribution, that supports 4.000 packages. If the basics are done in a goog way, installing an RPM/DEB with a package manager shouldn't be a problem.
Has anybody tried to modify this one to cancel the noise from/inside a PC? There was a previous post on slashdot for this one. But building it for yourself is way cooler...
a small 65 MB base installation is fine, but why not a 65 MB base iso? Just getting the net (incl. dsl etc.) and KDE up and then downloading just the required packages.
I guess, that most people don't use more than 1 cd of software. I for myself probably do not install mor than 350 MB of software.
I know, that there is (at least used to be) a network.img disk for download, but that doesn't help if you don't have a static IP and full internet access (so no proxy, no DSL, no ISDN,...).
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While this is modded as Funny, I think that they main reason, why they don't fix it, is simple: They don't get money for fixing. They get money for releasing upgrades with new features (and new bugs).
Possible solution: Software-leasing/renting. With the right to choose between x-office-with-the-latest-bells-and-whistles and y-office-i-know-it-and-it-has-zero-bugs. I'm sure, that many will pick y-office. That might be the time, the software industry starts thinking about bug free software, because it might pay off.
Bye egghat.
This isn't meant to be trolling ...
With the previous discussion whether source based distros or binary distros are better I wonder, why you can't simply download a binary distro and recompile all important packages from the Source RPMS. So you can get the comfort from e.g. Mandrake with the efficiency of e.g. Gentoo.
Is it a possible way to enhance a binary based distibution with a recompilation feature?
Bye egghat.
See the update at Heise (google translated). Or use the original in German.
Have a nice weekend.
Bye egghat.
traceroute www.strato.de (or a tracert if you're under Windows). Seems to be OK at least for now and we're one hour behind their possible shutdown time.
Bye egghat.
I'm quite astonished that noone seems to mention, that a German consortium is building a Maglev train in China (Shanghai Airport -- City) and that there will be two Transrapid routes in Germany, one in Munich (Airport -- City) and one in the Ruhrregion between Dortmund and Duesseldorf. Shanghai should be ready in less than a year and the two German routes should be ready for the Soccer World Championship in 2006.
You can find more info on the website of Transrapid in English or German.
Bye egghat.
5% less heat when changing the production process from 0,18 to 0,13 is IMHO a big disappointment.
When AMD announced the new Mobile Athlons the new core seemed to be very promising. Core voltage down significantly, power consumption down significantly. Now the core voltage is just decreased by a mere 0,1 volt and power consumption down by less than 10%.
Very frustrating! Especially when you know, that AMD ships 1,5 Volt-Athlons to NEC for Low-Noise-Office-PCs for Japan.
AMD, LISTEN UP:
Deliver those Low-Voltage-Athlons to all of us. If I could chose between an Athlon 1.8 Gig 1,75 Volt (60 watt) and an Athlon 1,7 Gig and 1,5 Volt (40 watt), I would definetly buy the the 1,5 Volt version. And I am sure, that I'm not the only one who would prefer a quiter PC for 5 % more performance.
Bye egghat.
Install Codeweavers Wine.
Worked very smooth for me, if you follow the two hints.
Bye egghat.
Wrong. You buy one MacOS with one Mac. You're not allowed to install one copy of MacOS on many machines.
Bye egghat.
Hmmm, most people say, that the only downside of Shuttle's systems is that they are not quiet. The SS40 is the first system that has been designed for quietness.
Shuttle listens carefully (I've seen guys from shuttle in various discussion boards) and they now build the new machines (SS40) with a heat pipe. So they only need two fans (IIRC there were three in the former models). And at least the one in the PSU seems to be very quiet now. And they have integrated fan speed control into the board. So the fan won't run faster than it needs to. Very cool.
But IMHO the older models are quite noisy.
Bye egghat.
but the good thing: 4 rpm based distros less ...
Bye egghat.
IMHO, it is mainly a move to save the costs of maintaining 4 different distributions. Let Connectiva do South America, SuSE Europe (they are big here!), Turbolinux Asia and Caldera North America.
Bye egghat.
NO! This is exactly the point. I'm German and able to understand the court's decision.
When you publish stuff to your MSN homepage, copyright and ownership are transferred to Microsoft. And therefore Microsoft is the one to blame. Not the user. The court has been very precise on this.
Bye egghat.
when you use this one:
Flash and Java installer for Mozilla
Worked absolutely wonderful.
Bye egghat.
My list:
...
# mandatory open APIs
# open file formats
That's it. The rest will come from the united league of open source gods
Samba would be 100% complete, if all protocols were 100% documented. The same for import/export filters for MS Office. The same for an Exchange clone. The same for Active Directory. The same for Win32Api.
You don't need to split up MS. You don't need to dictate prices. You don't need to modularize Windows. Document everything 100%. And the monopoly will be gone in a few years.
Bye egghat.
Cab you say anything about the sound quality?
Acceptable? Good? Bad?
TIA
egghat.
Way cool I thought. Until I discovered, that you need a special version of U/Win which costs money. OK they promise to reintigrate sources with AT&T original version. Then you could use AT&T original U/Win. But for now: Commercial stuff.
Bye egghat.
Hi,
the price difference between these two is pure marketing. Production costs are virtually the same. As Intel dominates the market, AMD can't afford to establish a different pricing scheme. Celerons crippled (FSB) and cheap, P3s full speed and expensive.
If AMD replaces the Durons with cheap Athlon, I don't see any problem. Despite of Intel which will get problems selling their crippled stuff.
Bye egghat.
The problem: Microsoft is one of the few companies on this planet who can afford to introduce bad products to the market and still won't go bancrupt.
...
Cause they have 39 billion dollar cash earned from a monopoly, where they dictate prices and where they get billions of dollars every year from so called microsoft tax, for which they don't even need someone to sell it. The computer manufacturers do it on hehalf of Microsoft.
Every other direct competitor of Microsoft (probably with the exception of IBM) would be bancrupt for years if they had a comparable rate of failures in their history. Any many of Microsoft's competitors made minor mistakes and are out of the market nevertheless
... subscribers, to keep their level of support for open source constant.
I wouldn't call this a success.
We need less dublication of efforts (gazillions of distributions).
And we need distros, that refocus on the hard things (hardware detection, setup of X, printing, adsl sharing, etc.) and not the 4th distribution, that supports 4.000 packages. If the basics are done in a goog way, installing an RPM/DEB with a package manager shouldn't be a problem.
Bye egghat.
Has anybody tried to modify this one to cancel the noise from/inside a PC? There was a previous post on slashdot for this one. But building it for yourself is way cooler ...
Bye egghat.
From all I've heard about the Shuttle thing it is as loud as a good Onyx ;-)
...
Everyone knows that size doesn't matter. It#s the noise you make
Bye egghat.
Hi,
...).
a small 65 MB base installation is fine, but why not a 65 MB base iso? Just getting the net (incl. dsl etc.) and KDE up and then downloading just the required packages.
I guess, that most people don't use more than 1 cd of software. I for myself probably do not install mor than 350 MB of software.
I know, that there is (at least used to be) a network.img disk for download, but that doesn't help if you don't have a static IP and full internet access (so no proxy, no DSL, no ISDN,
Bye egghat.
see the Story at Heise.de.
The guys from www.yopi.at claim, that they already ship this neat little thing since February.
Bye egghat.
with the small problem, that this is not BeOs on *nix, but the BeOs-GUI on *nix. And it won't be as stable as GnuStep, Wine, ... for a long time.
Far from being useful for Joe Sixpack.
Bye, egghat.
Thanks so far.
What about the Macs?