Lot of implementations mentioned in this thread, but does anyone know of an implementation for the most wildly used E-Mail clients under Linux/BSD: KMail, Evolution and Mozilla?
... that Redhat was the major force behind Gnome, which came into existence *after* KDE (because qt wasn't completly free and open). They were the single most important distro to support Gnome instead of KDE, which has been chosen by almost all other distro makers as a default. Remember when Mandrake entered the market and basically was a Redhat with KDE? Mandrake's success told Redhat a big lesson.
So it's kind of hmmm strange, that nowadays Redhat tries to nullify the difference between KDE and Gnome.
But let me state it again: I think, we don't need two desktops. So every move to make those beast more similar is welcomed.
If they are not totally weird (which I'm not that sure...) they want the diskman back after a few weeks. And then they will see who has 'manipulated' the device and who has not.
The NY times story doesn't mention, if Epic wants the deivces back, so my comment is just wild guessing.
I know this post is somewhat redundant, but I think it's worth noting, that the short term solution will be the Bynari Plugin for Outlook but the longer term solution will be a separate stand-alone open source client for windows. Which will replace Outlook completly.
The newer Canons, the S series, are worse than the older models. Many of the better models (S520 is a good example) aren't even mentioned on the Gimp-Print pages or at linuxprinting.org
This is a shame, Canon! Cause the S-series for sure are the best printers around.
Bye egghat.
Re:Please Don't buy an Xbox Just for Linux
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i) IMHO in the current state of the LinuXBox project there may be 10.000 geeks on our planet who care and probably a 1.000 who will buy it for that reason. That won't change the course of the world.
ii) MS loses money with every XBox. A good reason to buy one.
iii) The game companies care much more about their sales than about MS sales. Even if gazillions of XBoxes are sold and noone buys games, no company will release new games in the future.
IMHO: If you think it's fun, buy an XBox. You're not doing anything particulary good or bad to MS.
But remember: As soon as you start buying games for the XBox you'll really start supporting the XBox and MS. But on the other side these games may be a hell lot of fun... (and Sony with their DRM ideas isn't a company that deserves geek support either (even though their Linux on a PS2 is cool)).
1.) External means you can put it on the floor. So it's more quiet, simply because it's further away. Remember that there is no reason to put a small PC on the floor instead of putting it on your desk where it should be.
2.) You have a problem with a quiet PC: You need a lot of air to cool it. A lot of air is needed to cool the PSU itself. If you put the PSU outside of the box, you get the chance to cool both parts passivly. (The PSU-cube has 5 sides to spread the heat when outside, but only one if placed inside the box).
Someone else noticed that, but his comments got buried in level 2 of this thread. (so I'm aware, that my posting is redundant, but hopefully someone will mod this up and warn people).
Remember: Never take slashot or amazon ratings too serious.
Re:The only problem with Vim is...
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If you don't need *all* of these features, Mondy/Mindi may be a good place to start looking. At last time I checked, it missed NTFS support and therefore is unusable for WinXP backups.
Yepp. And then add a user friendly HD backup programm to CD for all partitions types (this means scriptable for me --> I script it for my parents and they simply have to press a) for daily incremental backup to CD/RW b) for weekly full backup to CD/RW c) for full ghost like backup to CD once in a while).
Most of the tools are there, but Mondi (and most other Linux on a CD Projects) miss NTFS access.
Killer app IMHO, if you want to show people how useful Linux is nowadays.
I can't mod the parent up, but I want to second that. 3ware is fantastic. We have used it under NT, Linux and W2K. But I have to add one thing: We have never used RAID5 and always used RAID 10, simply because with IDE you can afford that;-)
160 capacity with 3ware RAID10 and 4 IDE disks should be cheaper than a SCSI RAID controller and RAID 5 that gives you 160 GB capacity. And I seriously doubt that the SCSI RAID 5 will be faster.
Werner is the maintainer of several Laptop related link lists, How-Tos, etc.
Check out the homepage of mobilix.org. It contains a bunch of very useful links. If you ask me, mobilix.org is THE place to go when searching for infos on Linux on Laptops.
I'm very astonished that his work is seen as an advertisment plug.
IMHO it's not the slashdot stories that get weaker, it's the comments from some posters. OK, we always had these comments, but somehow more BS postings get modded up to +5.
Printing problems are solved (see CUPS based printing in Mandrake). Font problems are mostly solved (see KDE in Mandrake). Simple upgrading isn't solved completly. Mandrake Update is fine, but apt-get is better.
80% of the problems would vanish, if a a distro as user friendly as Mandrake, but with Debian package management as a foundation, came out. Corel was way ahead with their distro two years ago.
The only really valid point is the case of missing drivers. I guess, that his slow moving windows were caused by missing/mediocre/bad drivers as well. My windows aren't slow moving. X is not the problem here.
Stop telling that Linux isn't ready for the desktop. RedHat is not, Debian is not, but SuSE perhaps is and Mandrake is even more. Could be somewhat related to their focus. RedHat for example quite clearly states that they are mainly focussed on the server side.
Distro makers should focus on hardware detection and support, installation and upgrading. And not on maintaining 3500 packages for their distribution.
I don't think, X as an architecture is the main problem for Linux on the desktop. Most problems are solved. When windows aren't moving fast, this is a problem of the driver and not of X. When you have a card with decent drivers, you won't notice many differences in speed.
Many of the problems desktop users have with Linux are related to missing (or in many cases bad) drivers. Windows has drivers for everything. So Linux will always be behind. This will be disappointing. Sooner or later.
OS X is damn fine. But there is no OpenOffice. Which he likes to use, cause it's free and Good Enough (tm). I know, someone is working on a port of OpenOffice to OS X, but it isn't here yet.
I don't think this is a problem of open source (or free) software per se. I think many software vendors also fail to deliver what the enduser needs.
Remember deactivating Clippy? Ever seen really stable software?
I think many of the problem that the article discusses are valid and important, but I also think, that a great lot of it is caused by the usual conflict between programmer/techie against enduser. No programmer loves writing documentation. No programmer likes to build (in his/her view) pointless features.
Simple: They want you to buy their distro. If downloading costs 5 days and buying costs 50 dollars more people will buy and not download. If downloading costs one day, noone will buy.
I know it's a beta and people should try it. But Redhat won't change the disc layout. It's a beta and it should be a test for the final.
Btw.: Most distros do it the Redhat way. SuSE has always needed all CDs for installing. Mandrake is one of the few exceptions. Normally 2 CDs are enough. And a second btw: This is a great opportunity for a small debian based distro: Install net access, X, hardware, etc. and then download everything else from the net.
As I have posted
before, a simliar net is up for testing in Germany. Here's my posting:
Hi,
your news reporter from Germany back again;-)
Heise had a story about a wireless self organzing net that's up for testing in the city of Ratingen, Germany.
The main facts: 2,4 GHz like WLAN, max. 1 km distance between the antennas, 44 mbit bandwidth per node - 33 mbit for relaying with the other nodes (normally 3 * 11 mbit) and the rest for the user of the node.
The problem is, that for MS to stumble, they need at least three BIG failures in a short time. Say CE will die, the Xbox will die and the Windows monopoly will be distroyed. If only one or two of their ventures fail, they will barely notice it. They simply make so much money with all of their other ventures. Any never forget: MS has 39 billion USD in cash.
Heise had a story about a wireless self organzing net that's up for testing in the city of Ratingen, Germany.
The main facts: 2,4 GHz like WLAN, max. 1 km distance between the antennas, 44 mbit bandwidth per node - 33 mbit for relaying with the other nodes (normally 3 * 11 mbit) and the rest for the user of the node.
Slashdot Mirror
Lot of implementations mentioned in this thread, but does anyone know of an implementation for the most wildly used E-Mail clients under Linux/BSD: KMail, Evolution and Mozilla?
TIA for any links.
Bye egghat.
... that Redhat was the major force behind Gnome, which came into existence *after* KDE (because qt wasn't completly free and open). They were the single most important distro to support Gnome instead of KDE, which has been chosen by almost all other distro makers as a default. Remember when Mandrake entered the market and basically was a Redhat with KDE? Mandrake's success told Redhat a big lesson.
So it's kind of hmmm strange, that nowadays Redhat tries to nullify the difference between KDE and Gnome.
But let me state it again: I think, we don't need two desktops. So every move to make those beast more similar is welcomed.
Bye egghat.
If they are not totally weird (which I'm not that sure ...) they want the diskman back after a few weeks. And then they will see who has 'manipulated' the device and who has not.
The NY times story doesn't mention, if Epic wants the deivces back, so my comment is just wild guessing.
Bye egghat.
I know this post is somewhat redundant, but I think it's worth noting, that the short term solution will be the Bynari Plugin for Outlook but the longer term solution will be a separate stand-alone open source client for windows. Which will replace Outlook completly.
WONDERFUL news.
Bye egghat.
The newer Canons, the S series, are worse than the older models. Many of the better models (S520 is a good example) aren't even mentioned on the Gimp-Print pages or at linuxprinting.org
This is a shame, Canon! Cause the S-series for sure are the best printers around.
Bye egghat.
i) IMHO in the current state of the LinuXBox project there may be 10.000 geeks on our planet who care and probably a 1.000 who will buy it for that reason. That won't change the course of the world.
... (and Sony with their DRM ideas isn't a company that deserves geek support either (even though their Linux on a PS2 is cool)).
ii) MS loses money with every XBox. A good reason to buy one.
iii) The game companies care much more about their sales than about MS sales. Even if gazillions of XBoxes are sold and noone buys games, no company will release new games in the future.
IMHO: If you think it's fun, buy an XBox. You're not doing anything particulary good or bad to MS.
But remember: As soon as you start buying games for the XBox you'll really start supporting the XBox and MS. But on the other side these games may be a hell lot of fun
BYMMV.
Bye egghat.
Have you looked at this one? :-( )
Coolermaster ATX P600
IMHO it's quite neat (but rather expensive
Bye egghat.
1.) External means you can put it on the floor. So it's more quiet, simply because it's further away. Remember that there is no reason to put a small PC on the floor instead of putting it on your desk where it should be.
2.) You have a problem with a quiet PC: You need a lot of air to cool it. A lot of air is needed to cool the PSU itself. If you put the PSU outside of the box, you get the chance to cool both parts passivly. (The PSU-cube has 5 sides to spread the heat when outside, but only one if placed inside the box).
Bye egghat.
Compare this and this
This is copied from Amazon as well.
Someone else noticed that, but his comments got buried in level 2 of this thread. (so I'm aware, that my posting is redundant, but hopefully someone will mod this up and warn people).
Remember: Never take slashot or amazon ratings too serious.
Install VIM for Solaris.
;-)
It's easy enough for a VI proofed user
Download here for example
Link is for Solaris 2.8. But you'll find the same stuff for other Solaris version an www.sunfreeware.comtoo.
(btw. emacs is here
Bye egghat.
Nope.
If you don't need *all* of these features, Mondy/Mindi may be a good place to start looking. At last time I checked, it missed NTFS support and therefore is unusable for WinXP backups.
Bye egghat.
Yepp. And then add a user friendly HD backup programm to CD for all partitions types (this means scriptable for me --> I script it for my parents and they simply have to press
a) for daily incremental backup to CD/RW
b) for weekly full backup to CD/RW
c) for full ghost like backup to CD once in a while).
Most of the tools are there, but Mondi (and most other Linux on a CD Projects) miss NTFS access.
Killer app IMHO, if you want to show people how useful Linux is nowadays.
Bye egghat.
Wonderful quote!
I can't mod the parent up, but I want to second that. 3ware is fantastic. We have used it under NT, Linux and W2K. But I have to add one thing: We have never used RAID5 and always used RAID 10, simply because with IDE you can afford that ;-)
160 capacity with 3ware RAID10 and 4 IDE disks should be cheaper than a SCSI RAID controller and RAID 5 that gives you 160 GB capacity. And I seriously doubt that the SCSI RAID 5 will be faster.
Bye egghat.
Werner is the maintainer of several Laptop related link lists, How-Tos, etc.
Check out the homepage of mobilix.org. It contains a bunch of very useful links. If you ask me, mobilix.org is THE place to go when searching for infos on Linux on Laptops.
I'm very astonished that his work is seen as an advertisment plug.
IMHO it's not the slashdot stories that get weaker, it's the comments from some posters. OK, we always had these comments, but somehow more BS postings get modded up to +5.
Bye
egghat.
Printing problems are solved (see CUPS based printing in Mandrake).
Font problems are mostly solved (see KDE in Mandrake).
Simple upgrading isn't solved completly. Mandrake Update is fine, but apt-get is better.
80% of the problems would vanish, if a a distro as user friendly as Mandrake, but with Debian package management as a foundation, came out. Corel was way ahead with their distro two years ago.
The only really valid point is the case of missing drivers. I guess, that his slow moving windows were caused by missing/mediocre/bad drivers as well. My windows aren't slow moving. X is not the problem here.
Stop telling that Linux isn't ready for the desktop. RedHat is not, Debian is not, but SuSE perhaps is and Mandrake is even more. Could be somewhat related to their focus. RedHat for example quite clearly states that they are mainly focussed on the server side.
Distro makers should focus on hardware detection and support, installation and upgrading. And not on maintaining 3500 packages for their distribution.
Bye egghat.
I don't think, X as an architecture is the main problem for Linux on the desktop. Most problems are solved. When windows aren't moving fast, this is a problem of the driver and not of X. When you have a card with decent drivers, you won't notice many differences in speed.
Many of the problems desktop users have with Linux are related to missing (or in many cases bad) drivers. Windows has drivers for everything. So Linux will always be behind. This will be disappointing. Sooner or later.
Bye egghat.
OS X is damn fine. But there is no OpenOffice. Which he likes to use, cause it's free and Good Enough (tm). I know, someone is working on a port of OpenOffice to OS X, but it isn't here yet.
I don't think this is a problem of open source (or free) software per se. I think many software vendors also fail to deliver what the enduser needs.
Remember deactivating Clippy?
Ever seen really stable software?
I think many of the problem that the article discusses are valid and important, but I also think, that a great lot of it is caused by the usual conflict between programmer/techie against enduser. No programmer loves writing documentation.
No programmer likes to build (in his/her view) pointless features.
Bye egghat.
>date +%s
;-)
1025857434
That one was easy
Bye egghat.
Hey, that would be the first MS makes money with the XBox ;-) So this might really happen ...
Bye egghat
Simple: They want you to buy their distro. If downloading costs 5 days and buying costs 50 dollars more people will buy and not download. If downloading costs one day, noone will buy.
I know it's a beta and people should try it. But Redhat won't change the disc layout. It's a beta and it should be a test for the final.
Btw.: Most distros do it the Redhat way. SuSE has always needed all CDs for installing. Mandrake is one of the few exceptions. Normally 2 CDs are enough. And a second btw: This is a great opportunity for a small debian based distro: Install net access, X, hardware, etc. and then download everything else from the net.
Bye egghat.
As I have posted before, a simliar net is up for testing in Germany. Here's my posting:
;-)
Hi,
your news reporter from Germany back again
Heise had a story about a wireless self organzing net that's up for testing in the city of Ratingen, Germany.
The main facts: 2,4 GHz like WLAN, max. 1 km distance between the antennas, 44 mbit bandwidth per node - 33 mbit for relaying with the other nodes (normally 3 * 11 mbit) and the rest for the user of the node.
The links:
Heise Story in German [heise.de] or google translated [google.com].
Link to the technology provider DIRC [dirc.net] (click on FAQ to get the main points).
Bye
egghat.
The problem is, that for MS to stumble, they need at least three BIG failures in a short time. Say CE will die, the Xbox will die and the Windows monopoly will be distroyed. If only one or two of their ventures fail, they will barely notice it. They simply make so much money with all of their other ventures. Any never forget: MS has 39 billion USD in cash.
Bye egghat.
Hi,
;-)
your news reporter from Germany back again
Heise had a story about a wireless self organzing net that's up for testing in the city of Ratingen, Germany.
The main facts: 2,4 GHz like WLAN, max. 1 km distance between the antennas, 44 mbit bandwidth per node - 33 mbit for relaying with the other nodes (normally 3 * 11 mbit) and the rest for the user of the node.
The links:
Heise Story in German or google translated.
Link to the technology provider DIRC (click on FAQ to get the main points).
Bye
egghat.