Don't forget Davis' Garfield, which also peaked in the early 90s and is currently on extended life support (or stasis, rather).
When I do occasionally see a Garfield strip nowadays it's just about the cat being mean to the guy and the guy's social incompetence. Nothing else. It's been *years* like that. Previously of course that also happened, but at least it was relatively fresh and had a good deal of subtlety. Today it's "haha, your fucking tie sucks, you can't get a date and you're a moron. Now feed me quick" pretty much, every day.
You can say "your tie sucks and you're a moron" only so many times before it gets old.
That's all well and good, but bragging to the world about what you did because you thought it would make you leet is still stupid.
I personally think this deserves punishment, regardless of whose email account he happened to crack. It doesn't matter if it was the Republican nominee for VP or Joe Six-Pack's, and it doesn't matter what portentous revelations came of it.
But the punishment needs to fit the crime. Certainly any sort of jail time would be excessive to say the least. But kids like these need to understand that there are limits and rules which are more important than having a chuckle with the internet. At the very least it should be a lesson on how not to announce to the world what you did.
You're right, there's no formal Python specification. However, CPython is for all practical purposes the spec, with a separate stable and successful implementation (Jython).
Perl on the other hand, has no spec other than Perl5, and no separate independent implementation.
And quite frankly, saying that Perl5 is the spec is a little bit like saying that the blueprints for that building over there are available only as crayon scribblings scattered in random walls of odd-numbered floors.
On the other hand, and I say this as a Python proponent, nothing comes close to CPAN. And let's not forget that Perl5 (on *nix at least) is about as stable and proven as you can get with software nowadays.
that didn't scale except with lots and lots of servers
Because it's not like Slashdot uses just three of them, right?
Scalability is the art of recognizing when you've hit the scale up wall and need to get on with scaling out. In most cases, if you knew what you were doing to begin with, it matters little what language or platform you are using, because you start moving into the realm of Memcached, transparent reverse proxies, federated or master/slave databases, etc, etc.
Perl doesn't do any of that any better than Java or C#.
This smells more like a great chance to evangelize the terrible dangers of Windows, since it seems to be his main concern here judging from the fact that he mentioned he doesn't use it twice (we got it the first time).
Funny how I manage to maintain my privacy online no matter what OS I happen to be using. Because you know, it's more likely that you'll get bitten by a break-in at a website that has a lot of your information (OS-agnostic, yay) than some 3v1L h^xxorz surreptitiously penetrating your residential cable connection and making off with your family photos because you failed to put a $30 router in front of your machines or just couldn't bother to patch.
No, it's a lot more fun to blame other people and companies for things that haven't even happened yet. You privacy champion you, with the public-facing last.fm profile.
I can not compel you to abandon evil, but I can remove legal protection for M$'s abuse.
So you're waiting for the rapture, when you'll hunt down and execute all "M$" employees and collaborators? *snort*
Did you really lose your job twitter? You seem angrier and angrier lately. Certainly missing that singsong voice of yours.
Or are you just increasingly frustrated because you finally managed to ruin the last of your 14 accounts and can't troll Slashdot effectively anymore? Maybe it's time for a new tactic. Shilling your comments in AC mode might work. Or then again it might not.
Your first point invalidates the remainder, since this is a JavaScript library. What exactly "Windows-specific" do you figure Microsoft will introduce into jQuery? There's already a ton of code to deal with IE's shortcomings, so that doesn't count.
Besides, assuming for just a minute that your scenario is correct, the net result is that a bunch of Microsoft developers are better off and everyone else who uses jQuery is no worse for it. Nobody wins, nobody loses.
I do not have kids of my own yet, but I've been very involved (thankfully) in seeing my sister raise two boys and a girl. And yet, I recognize that never involved enough to fully relate or appreciate what that is really like. But I have a pretty good idea. She jokes that it's all fun and games until you have to clean up a pool of vomit at three in the morning, and she's right. You sir have my unrelenting respect.
I don't think you're doing anything wrong, on the contrary. And I don't think your situation is anything like the one referenced in that email. That guy just wanted his kid to stop bugging him so he could post to Slashdot.
Keep up the good work, seriously. Your daughter is lucky to have you.
This is just one more in a long line of examples of Microsoft's "Not Invented Here" attitude problem. They could have joined the existing communities and worked with them. Open sourcing jQuery will not fix the problem -- the open source community still hates Microsoft's guts for exactly this type of behavior.
Just had to quote this so I can read it again later when I'm ready for some comedic relief.
Because the jQuery maintainers are going to happily incorporate Windows-only modifications made by Microsoft to the library, correct?
Because "we'll be shipping jQuery as-is, and submit patches to it like everyone else" means something weird and wacky you must have deduced ahead of us. Correct?
Actually I'm at a loss here. Could you enlighten us as to how these evil tricksies will take place.
The one about the guy who wants a "Slashdot for kids" is especially disturbing so he can "plop" his children in front of a computer and have them leave him alone is especially disturbing.
I hope that's the exception rather than the rule for geeks who are starting to have families.
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Yeah, but you couldn't share anything that wasn't an MP3 on Napster. IIRC the client just wouldn't let you.
I'm not 100% sure about that, I never used Napster much.
Kazaa though... that's another story.
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and piracy were so much harder back then:
It wasn't, it just happened on FTP servers and USENET.
I'd tell you more but I have to to change my dentures.
The old EA flight sims used to be good. I played a few of them. They were simpler than, say, Falcon. That made them more fun to play. Mindless fun I guess.
It's too bad EA canceled this. I don't go for FPS much, but I used to love the C&C games back in the day and I would have at least tried it.
A few years ago I hired a girl that worked in the desktop support group of a client I was consulting at. She had a CS degree, but I could care less about that. One day she showed me a project she was doing with Python and TurboGears. I had no idea she could code. After looking through what she had (and making sure she hadn't lifted it from somewhere) I gave her my card and told her to call me if she ever got tired of fixing PCs.
A couple of months later she was working freelance (from home), on a laptop provided by me, coding Python and pulling in 5x her old salary. Worked for me for about a year, then took a job with a startup that also employed her boyfriend.
I don't know how widespread this is, but I can tell you that I don't care about where you've been the past two years, what your degree (or lack thereof) is, or what god you pray to. If you can ace two days of technical and non-tech interviews, you're hired. These companies are definitely doing it wrong. In fact, I'd say working support might give you interpersonal skills that many developers lack. This girl certainly was a great person to work with, aside from just being good at coding.
And well... yes, she was cute. But also engaged =)
Agreed, and I have to say I'm happy for ASP.NET. I used Prototype for a while when the Ajax craze first started and I ended up switching to jQuery. Smaller, faster, better designed.
Congratulations to the authors indeed. It's not easy to get $LARGE_COMPANIES to use things like these, let alone advertise the fact that they are using them or actually incorporate them into their existing products.
On last Disagree Mail article I mentioned that the reason people didn't like Idle was probably because they were disappointed with the "out there" factor that one would expect from 10 years of running Slashdot.
Although they erode my faith in humanity a little bit, these are much better and actually made me laugh.
Slashdot Mirror
hahah, thanks for that!
Don't forget Davis' Garfield, which also peaked in the early 90s and is currently on extended life support (or stasis, rather).
When I do occasionally see a Garfield strip nowadays it's just about the cat being mean to the guy and the guy's social incompetence. Nothing else. It's been *years* like that. Previously of course that also happened, but at least it was relatively fresh and had a good deal of subtlety. Today it's "haha, your fucking tie sucks, you can't get a date and you're a moron. Now feed me quick" pretty much, every day.
You can say "your tie sucks and you're a moron" only so many times before it gets old.
Yes, absolutely. And that's something that should be looked at. But one bad thing does not cancel the other one out.
I'd wager it's about the same amount that receive national attention.
That's all well and good, but bragging to the world about what you did because you thought it would make you leet is still stupid.
I personally think this deserves punishment, regardless of whose email account he happened to crack. It doesn't matter if it was the Republican nominee for VP or Joe Six-Pack's, and it doesn't matter what portentous revelations came of it.
But the punishment needs to fit the crime. Certainly any sort of jail time would be excessive to say the least. But kids like these need to understand that there are limits and rules which are more important than having a chuckle with the internet. At the very least it should be a lesson on how not to announce to the world what you did.
Roughly, that sucks anyway. Like all patents.
You're right, there's no formal Python specification. However, CPython is for all practical purposes the spec, with a separate stable and successful implementation (Jython).
Perl on the other hand, has no spec other than Perl5, and no separate independent implementation.
And quite frankly, saying that Perl5 is the spec is a little bit like saying that the blueprints for that building over there are available only as crayon scribblings scattered in random walls of odd-numbered floors.
On the other hand, and I say this as a Python proponent, nothing comes close to CPAN. And let's not forget that Perl5 (on *nix at least) is about as stable and proven as you can get with software nowadays.
Because it's not like Slashdot uses just three of them, right?
Scalability is the art of recognizing when you've hit the scale up wall and need to get on with scaling out. In most cases, if you knew what you were doing to begin with, it matters little what language or platform you are using, because you start moving into the realm of Memcached, transparent reverse proxies, federated or master/slave databases, etc, etc.
Perl doesn't do any of that any better than Java or C#.
This smells more like a great chance to evangelize the terrible dangers of Windows, since it seems to be his main concern here judging from the fact that he mentioned he doesn't use it twice (we got it the first time).
Funny how I manage to maintain my privacy online no matter what OS I happen to be using. Because you know, it's more likely that you'll get bitten by a break-in at a website that has a lot of your information (OS-agnostic, yay) than some 3v1L h^xxorz surreptitiously penetrating your residential cable connection and making off with your family photos because you failed to put a $30 router in front of your machines or just couldn't bother to patch.
No, it's a lot more fun to blame other people and companies for things that haven't even happened yet. You privacy champion you, with the public-facing last.fm profile.
So you're waiting for the rapture, when you'll hunt down and execute all "M$" employees and collaborators? *snort*
Did you really lose your job twitter? You seem angrier and angrier lately. Certainly missing that singsong voice of yours.
Or are you just increasingly frustrated because you finally managed to ruin the last of your 14 accounts and can't troll Slashdot effectively anymore? Maybe it's time for a new tactic. Shilling your comments in AC mode might work. Or then again it might not.
Your first point invalidates the remainder, since this is a JavaScript library. What exactly "Windows-specific" do you figure Microsoft will introduce into jQuery? There's already a ton of code to deal with IE's shortcomings, so that doesn't count.
Besides, assuming for just a minute that your scenario is correct, the net result is that a bunch of Microsoft developers are better off and everyone else who uses jQuery is no worse for it. Nobody wins, nobody loses.
I do not have kids of my own yet, but I've been very involved (thankfully) in seeing my sister raise two boys and a girl. And yet, I recognize that never involved enough to fully relate or appreciate what that is really like. But I have a pretty good idea. She jokes that it's all fun and games until you have to clean up a pool of vomit at three in the morning, and she's right. You sir have my unrelenting respect.
I don't think you're doing anything wrong, on the contrary. And I don't think your situation is anything like the one referenced in that email. That guy just wanted his kid to stop bugging him so he could post to Slashdot.
Keep up the good work, seriously. Your daughter is lucky to have you.
Just had to quote this so I can read it again later when I'm ready for some comedic relief.
Because the jQuery maintainers are going to happily incorporate Windows-only modifications made by Microsoft to the library, correct?
Because "we'll be shipping jQuery as-is, and submit patches to it like everyone else" means something weird and wacky you must have deduced ahead of us. Correct?
Actually I'm at a loss here. Could you enlighten us as to how these evil tricksies will take place.
It was a botched bidding process, obviously.
And wasn't there a community behind this project before? Why wasn't the funding given to them instead of a company in Bulgaria?
The one about the guy who wants a "Slashdot for kids" is especially disturbing so he can "plop" his children in front of a computer and have them leave him alone is especially disturbing.
I hope that's the exception rather than the rule for geeks who are starting to have families.
Yeah, but you couldn't share anything that wasn't an MP3 on Napster. IIRC the client just wouldn't let you.
I'm not 100% sure about that, I never used Napster much.
Kazaa though... that's another story.
It wasn't, it just happened on FTP servers and USENET.
I'd tell you more but I have to to change my dentures.
Well, that's certainly one way to spin it.
The old EA flight sims used to be good. I played a few of them. They were simpler than, say, Falcon. That made them more fun to play. Mindless fun I guess.
It's too bad EA canceled this. I don't go for FPS much, but I used to love the C&C games back in the day and I would have at least tried it.
Heh. Well, it's a two-way street. She made me a lot of money too. OK, this is getting weird...
A few years ago I hired a girl that worked in the desktop support group of a client I was consulting at. She had a CS degree, but I could care less about that. One day she showed me a project she was doing with Python and TurboGears. I had no idea she could code. After looking through what she had (and making sure she hadn't lifted it from somewhere) I gave her my card and told her to call me if she ever got tired of fixing PCs.
A couple of months later she was working freelance (from home), on a laptop provided by me, coding Python and pulling in 5x her old salary. Worked for me for about a year, then took a job with a startup that also employed her boyfriend.
I don't know how widespread this is, but I can tell you that I don't care about where you've been the past two years, what your degree (or lack thereof) is, or what god you pray to. If you can ace two days of technical and non-tech interviews, you're hired. These companies are definitely doing it wrong. In fact, I'd say working support might give you interpersonal skills that many developers lack. This girl certainly was a great person to work with, aside from just being good at coding.
And well... yes, she was cute. But also engaged =)
That's right, in a few months Microsoft will submit a patch that ties jQuery hopelessly to IE8... and no one will notice.
Such things tend to happen with projects with no oversight and no established community, of which jQuery is clearly a shining example.
Agreed, and I have to say I'm happy for ASP.NET. I used Prototype for a while when the Ajax craze first started and I ended up switching to jQuery. Smaller, faster, better designed.
Congratulations to the authors indeed. It's not easy to get $LARGE_COMPANIES to use things like these, let alone advertise the fact that they are using them or actually incorporate them into their existing products.
On last Disagree Mail article I mentioned that the reason people didn't like Idle was probably because they were disappointed with the "out there" factor that one would expect from 10 years of running Slashdot.
Although they erode my faith in humanity a little bit, these are much better and actually made me laugh.