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Opus the Penguin Retired

garylian writes "Berkeley Breathed has announced that he has drawn the final comic containing the greatest penguin ever, Opus. The author is now going to write children's books. For those of you in your mid-30s and older, you remember Bloom County as a staple of the comic pages in a similar time frame as Calvin & Hobbes, and that time was probably the greatest the daily/Sunday comics have ever known. From running for the vice presidency to impersonating Michael Jackson, from gracing a ton of t-shirts to being one of the weirdest stuffed animals ever, from rocking in a heavy metal band 'Billy and the Boingers' to cleaning up Bill's hair balls, Opus was perfect for that time. And Bloom County would have been perfect during the Bush 2 years. Now, I'm going to pull out all my old Bloom County books and read them. After I dig through some boxes and find my old Opus dolls. I wonder what my kids are going to think of them."

218 comments

  1. Never fear... by R2.0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When Breathed starts running out of money he'll resurrect Opus.

    Just like last time.

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    1. Re:Never fear... by CRCulver · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I belong to a generation too young to have appreciated Bloom County. Rather, the first work of Breathed I encountered was Outland, which I thought bizarre, pointless and just downright not funny. If I hadn't come across the Bloom County collection Billy and the Boingers Bootleg at a friend's house (belonging to his cool older brother), I would have never known the comic genius that Breathed could be. Opus has generally felt even less fun than Outland, which shows a sad decline in the cartoonist's art.

      It's remarkable that Bloom County is still so hilarious, when the minutiae of life under the Reagan administration is all but forgotten by readers today, yet a topical strip like Opus is just so meh.

      I wish that he had given up the characters in 1989 at their prime like Bill Watterson was wise to do, instead of continuing them as a source of financial security. It seems like a curse of nerd culture is a flood of sequels that diminishes the impact of the original, quality material. We've seen it with Star Wars, umpteen science fiction novel universes from Dune to Ender's Game, and even the quirky strip that was Bloom County.

    2. Re:Never fear... by gnick · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If he had given them up in 1989, we never would have had A Wish For Wings That Work (1991). A X-mas classic in my house, watched every year.

      Would have been tragic.

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    3. Re:Never fear... by Directrix1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I wish they would resurrect a complete Bloom County collection, instead of just "Opus". I like Opus, but he was just one other character in a great comic.

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    4. Re:Never fear... by postbigbang · · Score: 1

      A creative idea catches fire.

      The business plan then becomes: stretch and 'repurpose content', flogging the same shtick until people want to kick it to the curb.

      The final outcome: people are sick to death of it, all possible variants of the original idea are bereft of any fun at all, and it's buh-bye for everyone, after Volume 12.

      In the interim, interesting ideas go away for wont of creative entrepreneurship or just the ability to get in front of a fresh audience. Ah, the wonders of modern capitalism.

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    5. Re:Never fear... by enrgeeman · · Score: 1

      Thank you so much. That movie was the first thing that came to my mind, but I couldn't for the life of me remember the name of it.
      Yes, yes, off-topic, but I remember watching that almost every year at christmas, as well as a charlie brown christmas(or whatever that was called, too).
      definitely a classic.

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    6. Re:Never fear... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the wonders of modern capitalism as aided by the wonders of modern intellectual property laws.

    7. Re:Never fear... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      I certainly hope not.

      I loved Bloom County when it was "in its prime" but as others have said it is a bit dated now.

      They had Breathed on NPR last week talking about Opus' retirement and I was less than impressed. I'm a cappuccino drinkin' Subaru drivin' center-left kinda guy, and even I think he sounded like a pretentious wuss.

    8. Re:Never fear... by hey! · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, I think the difference is this. Bloom County was written by a younger, more idealistic, more hopeful man. Outland was written by man who was prone to saying things like "I'd be a Libertarian, if they weren't all a bunch of tax-dodging professional whiners." Yeah, it's funny, but not the kind of thing you look forward to reading over your morning coffee every day.

      Here's the full quote: "Liberal, shmiberal. That should be a new word. Shmiberal: one who is assumed liberal, just because he's a professional whiner in the newspaper. If you'll read the subtext for many of those old strips, you'll find the heart of an old-fashioned Libertarian. And I'd be a Libertarian, if they weren't all a bunch of tax-dodging professional whiners." Again, it's funny, but it's not true. The Breathed of Bloom County -- at least the one we see in the strips -- is a fairly standard issue political liberal. The Breathed looking back is somebody who not only thinks government can't work, but thinks thinking government can't work, can't work.

      Charles Schultz's genius gradually petered out over the years, repeating the same jokes over and over. Breathed, having stared his career during the master's twilight, knew that even the great have only so much greatness in them. Certainly not enough to fill out a daily comic every day of the year for an entire lifetime.

      In the final Bloom County strip, the iconic meadow where the characters muse about life is paved over with asphalt. It was a brutally honest way of saying the creative well was running dry. And when Breathed finally did go back to the well, with Outland, and Opus, it wasn't so much that the well was dry, as it had turned bitter.

      I really wish Breathed had Bloom County in him, even if he dribbled it out as a book every couple of years. I wish that Bill Watterson had more Calvin and Hobbes in him. But evidently, they don't. These were personal works, and people change; they move on.

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    9. Re:Never fear... by NormalVisual · · Score: 1

      "Ackppttthhh - The Life of Bill the Cat In His Own Words"

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    10. Re:Never fear... by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I think that was the problem with his Opus strip. A previous comment mentioned how much more he liked the old Bloom County strips. The difference was that Berkley stripped out most of the other characters except for Steve and Bill the Cat (who doesn't talk). That left Opus alone in most of the situations with no other supporting characters. In the Bloom Country strips there was a series of regular characters who all had the focus on them at some point. That created a much more complex cartoon "universe" whereas Opus alone had no one to play off of and sounded like a single note enventually. I don't know why Berkley dropped most of the other characters, there really was no good reason for it.

      The same thing happened to the cast of Seinfeld, they were much better playing off each other. Once the show ended and they tried to make shows with themselves as the focus they seemed like they were adrift and bland.

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    11. Re:Never fear... by ThreeE · · Score: 1

      What have the Romans ever done for us, right?

    12. Re:Never fear... by R2.0 · · Score: 1

      I get the feeling that Breathed was "inspired" by Trudeau and the resurrection of "Doonesbury", which happened about the same time. I recall that Bloom County, while not overtly political, certainly let Breathed viewpoint through. At some point he decided that viewpoint should be the primary, and Opus became simply Breathed's mouthpiece.

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    13. Re:Never fear... by Dr.Dubious+DDQ · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah - I read the description of the story and thought to myself "Right, and JK Rowling has written her last 'Harry Potter' book..." Someone else can insert a reference to George Lucas here...

    14. Re:Never fear... by I'm+not+really+here · · Score: 1

      Unless his way of "leaving Opus in a way that it should be very clear that this time there's no going back home" (direct quote of Breathed) is to have him pass away or be killed doing some activist work or be tortured to death at Gitmo or something that irrevocably ends Opus' run.

      Though none of these seem like how Opus would end.

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    15. Re:Never fear... by DeusExMach · · Score: 1

      Well, there's the Aqueduct. Oh, and sanitation. Roads. Medicine! medicine's a good one. A system of laws. Writing. Parliamentary government...

    16. Re:Never fear... by txoof · · Score: 1

      Totally off topic, but I love your sig!

      Don't forget: It's cold outside, there's no kind of atmosphere.

      Red Dwarf is quite possibly one of best sci-fi comedies ever to be produced.

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    17. Re:Never fear... by flappinbooger · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Bloom County was genius but rooted in the time, sort of a commentary like Doonsbury, but whimsical.

      Calvin and Hobbes is genius as well, but timeless.

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    18. Re:Never fear... by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 1

      At the moment, Opus is in the animal shelter, so my guess is that he'll be euthanized.

    19. Re:Never fear... by dedazo · · Score: 1

      Don't forget Davis' Garfield, which also peaked in the early 90s and is currently on extended life support (or stasis, rather).

      When I do occasionally see a Garfield strip nowadays it's just about the cat being mean to the guy and the guy's social incompetence. Nothing else. It's been *years* like that. Previously of course that also happened, but at least it was relatively fresh and had a good deal of subtlety. Today it's "haha, your fucking tie sucks, you can't get a date and you're a moron. Now feed me quick" pretty much, every day.

      You can say "your tie sucks and you're a moron" only so many times before it gets old.

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    20. Re:Never fear... by featheredfrog · · Score: 1

      Resurrect? goComics.com has been reprinting Bloom County and Breathed's FIRST strip, "Academia Waltz" for some time now:

      http://www.gocomics.com/academiawaltz/
      http://www.gocomics.com/bloomcounty/

      You can see many of the same jokes. They're doing full strip, not just the selected ones in the reprint books.

    21. Re:Never fear... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "It's cold outside, there's no kind of atmosphere. I'm all alone, more or less."

      Just sounds like too much of a down-beat for a sig. Mango juice and goldfish are more fun.

      =)

    22. Re:Never fear... by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 1

      He should have stuck with the Steve Dallas Big Three - Buicks, Blondes, and Buckley.

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    23. Re:Never fear... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When Breathed starts running out of money he'll resurrect Opus.

      Just like last time.

      hear, here.

    24. Re:Never fear... by operagost · · Score: 2, Insightful

      At least he has the decency to try to retire, unlike Gary Trudeau who keeps cranking out mindless Doonesbury strips only he and Al Franken think are funny.

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    25. Re:Never fear... by operagost · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's why I can't read either strip. No insights in either one; just some guy trying to tell me his opinions are righter and funnier than mine. If you want to write political cartoons, write them.

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    26. Re:Never fear... by sjames · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think Opus (the comic and the character) was the perfect retrospective on Bloom County. It conveyed well the vague sense of 'out of placeness' that many who read Bloom County in it's day now feel. The sense that something has somehow gone very wrong somewhere and the complete lack of an idea what to do about it (if anything).

      All the same, that point is made. At least he has decided not to drag it all out until people just quit reading one by one.

    27. Re:Never fear... by KevinKnSC · · Score: 1

      You can put some life back into Garfield by going here.

    28. Re:Never fear... by Creepy · · Score: 1

      Breathed did retire the characters with the comic and did not intend to return, citing that he was burned out from publishing a daily (and was a trend setter - his vacation breaks and early retirement were followed by other comic page artists like Gary Larson, Bill Watterson and Aaron McGruder). When Outland was announced as a Sunday only strip shortly after Bloom County's end, many people speculated that he'd bring back Bloom County characters, but he said initially it would be an entirely new comic with new characters but may feature a Bloom County character from time to time. It was supposed to be focused around Ronald-Ann Smith and Mortimer Mouse, but gradually grew to be generally focused around Opus, as had been Bloom County.

      Watterson retired mainly because of the grind of a daily and having other less constrained interests he wanted to pursue (painting, as I recall).

    29. Re:Never fear... by Skater · · Score: 1

      Actually Jon has a girlfriend now.

    30. Re:Never fear... by PCM2 · · Score: 1

      I really wish Breathed had Bloom County in him, even if he dribbled it out as a book every couple of years. I wish that Bill Watterson had more Calvin and Hobbes in him. But evidently, they don't. These were personal works, and people change; they move on.

      Or rather, some do ... and some just keep lingering around, even after their creative wells have run dry.

      I'm with the people who say they've read this exact same story about Breathed before. He keeps saying he's "giving up comics to focus on children's books," as if we're supposed to read that as some kind of catharsis moment in the life of an artist ... and then he describes his latest children's book, which is about a depressed pig tending the grave of his dead wife. Breathed paved over the field after Bloom County, and for the rest of his career he's just been doing donuts on the asphalt.

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    31. Re:Never fear... by PCM2 · · Score: 1

      When I do occasionally see a Garfield strip nowadays it's just about the cat being mean to the guy and the guy's social incompetence. Nothing else. It's been *years* like that.

      I know! Remarkable, such consistency! Jim Davis still hasn't lost a beat after all these years.

      In all seriousness, though, Garfield has been executed by a team of assistants for decades now. I once saw a bit on TV about it. They even showed the guy who airbrushes all the Garfields for kids' school folders, etc. Davis was smart -- he made a business out of it. He realized that if he just played ball, he didn't have to have an ounce of Charles Schulz's talent to make Charles Schulz's money. Honestly, I don't fault him for it at all -- Garfield has always been harmless enough.

      BTW, you must be younger than me, because in my mind Garfield "peaked" as a comic strip in the early 1980s. Its popularity grew as an effect of merchandising, but I don't think it was ever remotely funny in the 90s.

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    32. Re:Never fear... by AppyPappy · · Score: 1

      Bloom County was perfect for the Clinton years because Bill was Steve to a T. Whether he was standing naked in front of someone's house or get maced in a bar trying to put the make on a girl. Breathed's Reagan quips were legend.

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    33. Re:Never fear... by PCM2 · · Score: 1

      Galloping Christ on the cross, that stuff is freakin' hilarious!

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    34. Re:Never fear... by dedazo · · Score: 1

      hahah, thanks for that!

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    35. Re:Never fear... by lgw · · Score: 1

      I remember the controversial "Reagan sucks!" cartoon. Boy, there's deep political insight for you. "Reagan sucks!" Funny too. Losers.

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    36. Re:Never fear... by HardCase · · Score: 1

      Oswald Chesterfield Copperpot (and I) most seriously doubt that Opus was the Greatest Penguin Evar. I'm pretty sure Burgess Meredith would put in his two cents' worth as well.

    37. Re:Never fear... by Bourbonium · · Score: 3, Informative

      I guess I'm showing my own age here, but I went to college with Berke at the University of Texas in Austin, way back in the ancient history of the 1980s. We'd often bump into each other at the College of Communication. I was a film major (Radio-TV-Film, to be exact) and he was a photojournalism major. At that time, he was drawing a strip for the student newspaper, The Daily Texan, entitled "The Academia Waltz." It featured a self-centered frat boy named Steve Dallas (whom you'll all remember later moved to Bloom County), his unnamed but eloquent dog and his girlfriend, who started out as an airheaded sorority girl who awakened one day with a political conscience and became a wildly left-wing liberal arts major who decided that sleeping with her professor to pass a class was a lot easier than studying.

      Berke could make a lot more money just by taking those old strips and putting together a new anthology, as the biting wit of Bloom County was in its early stages back then. But like you say, he changed and moved on, and probably doesn't even like those old strips that I recall so fondly.

    38. Re:Never fear... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Red Dwarf is quite possibly one of best sci-fi comedies ever to be produced.

      Funny you should mention Red Dwarf...

      I wish that they had given up the characters in 1989 at their prime like Bill Watterson was wise to do, instead of continuing them as a source of financial security.

    39. Re:Never fear... by Mr+Z · · Score: 1

      The TV show had its moments, but that's about it.

  2. Mod Parent Troll/Flamebait by geoffrobinson · · Score: 5, Funny

    Using "greatest penguin ever" on a site with this many Linux users is asking for trouble.

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    1. Re:Mod Parent Troll/Flamebait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      During their gay hookups, Tux always bottoms for Opus. Clearly, Opus is the dominant penguin.

    2. Re:Mod Parent Troll/Flamebait by RackinFrackin · · Score: 2, Funny

      Not to mention all the Tennessee Tuxedo fans, who are not going to be happy about it either.

    3. Re:Mod Parent Troll/Flamebait by pla · · Score: 4, Funny

      Not to mention all the Tennessee Tuxedo fans, who are not going to be happy about it either.

      Sorry, wrong site - You want AARP, not Slashdot.

      Easy mistake, no doubt you arrived here from a misspelled Google search for "ARPA". ;-)

    4. Re:Mod Parent Troll/Flamebait by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      Not to mention all the Tennessee Tuxedo fans, who are not going to be happy about it either.

      Don Adams, we miss you!

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    5. Re:Mod Parent Troll/Flamebait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Using "greatest penguin ever" on a site with this many Linux users is asking for trouble.

      Yes but has anyone asked Opus what OS he uses????

    6. Re:Mod Parent Troll/Flamebait by jejones · · Score: 1

      I remember Tennessee Tuxedo... and I won't quibble about which penguin is the greatest. (Hey, nobody's even mentioned Chilly Willy...)

      However, since we are talking to Linux fans--quick, somebody hurry up and finally implement the 3-DBB user interface!

    7. Re:Mod Parent Troll/Flamebait by Ubergrendle · · Score: 1

      Chilly Willy is suing for defamation.

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    8. Re:Mod Parent Troll/Flamebait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whoopee!

    9. Re:Mod Parent Troll/Flamebait by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 1

      Come on, Chumley, let's go see Mr. Whoopee!!

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  3. Opus retires? Dood! by Millennium · · Score: 1

    It's a sad day, dood. Think he'll join up soon?

    1. Re:Opus retires? Dood! by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      I know...I miss his first band...."Deathtongue"

      (I don't know how to put the 2 dots over u...)

      I believe this was the band before Billy and the Boingers....must more of a metal group for Opus and Bill the Cat.

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    2. Re:Opus retires? Dood! by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually it was the same band; they got dragged to one of those Tipper Gore congressional hearings and Steve (the manager) eventually caved to congressional pressure on censorship and decency and changed the bands name from "Deathtongue" to "Billy and the Boingers"

      (That story arc is a must for people who are against censorship; throughout the whole bit Tipper Gore keeps screaming "Off with their heads" whenever anyone does anything offensive, and through out there are quoted sections of purported Deathtongue songs with such memorable names as "Love Rhino")

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    3. Re:Opus retires? Dood! by initdeep · · Score: 1

      the best moment tipper ever had in the press......

    4. Re:Opus retires? Dood! by AlamedaStone · · Score: 2, Funny

      more of a metal group for Opus and Bill the Cat.

      Heavy metal, weighty brass... Opus played the tuba.

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    5. Re:Opus retires? Dood! by zeenixus · · Score: 1

      let me graze into your velt,
      let me stample your albino,
      let me nibble on your buds,
      I'm your love rhino.

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  4. What will this do to Opus BBS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    It's got Avatar! It puts the O in FOSSIL!

  5. I think I'll go lie down in a field of dandelions by studpuppy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sniff. -- I'm not crying. I just have something in my eye.

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  6. Meh. by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've actually gotten annoyed with BB over the years...What's the point of getting invested in one of his strips? This is what, the third?

    As much as I appreciate a newspaper comic artist who will actually let his strip die when he feels like he's gotten stale, it's irritating when he lets it die, brings it back, lets it die, brings it back, and lets it die THIS TIME FOR REAL I PROMISE!

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    1. Re:Meh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      lets it die, brings it back, lets it die, brings it back, and lets it die THIS TIME FOR REAL I PROMISE!

      So one could call him the Brett Favre of comic strip artists?

    2. Re:Meh. by Khan · · Score: 1

      ROFL!! What an absolutely TRUE statement!!

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    3. Re:Meh. by Authoritative+Douche · · Score: 1

      Heh. I was going to go with the Rolling Stones or The Who but you make the same point :-)

    4. Re:Meh. by dwarg · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What's the point of getting invested in one of his strips?

      How invested can you be? It's a comic strip. It doesn't cost you anything to read it in the papers, and if you don't have the patience for that you can buy the collected works as they are released in book form.

      I realize some people get really into these things, but I wish they would realize that if every comic strip in America were to disappear one day life would go on unchanged. That people get overly invested in their entertainment is a problem for those people not the artists, athletes, musicians, etc. that create the entertainment.

      It comes down to perspective and knowing the difference between getting what you need vs. getting what you want.

    5. Re:Meh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be new to comics. Seriously.

    6. Re:Meh. by jeffmeden · · Score: 1

      A statement blatantly stolen from NPR's Melissa Block.

      http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=95441421

    7. Re:Meh. by wootcat · · Score: 1

      Or, you could call Brett Farve the Berke Breathed of football quarterbacks.

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    8. Re:Meh. by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 1

      You seem to be suggesting an emotional investment, when I am merely speaking about time, and attention. Simply finding a strip like Opus on a weekly basis will take extra effort for most people.

      But, assuming I'm so intellectually bankrupt to seek entertainment, and that I'm so collossally low-brow to read a arty character-driven sunday-only comic strip, I kinda want one that has a bit of staying power, so that after I've bothered to get into it, the creator doesn't just wander off to do something else.

      I don't care if he stops drawing. It annoys me that he can't make up his mind.

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    9. Re:Meh. by againjj · · Score: 1

      This is what, the third?

      Fourth: The Academia Waltz, Bloom County, Outland, Opus.

    10. Re:Meh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At the risk of heresy among this crowd, I'll say honestly that I've never laughed once at any strip Berkeley Breathed has ever done. I thought Bloom County genuinely sucked when I first tried to read it 20+ years ago, and my opinion hasn't changed since then.

      Bloom County was touted originally as the "new Doonesbury!" It premiered at the same time that Gary Trudeau took about 18 months off from Doonesbury (in the early 80s) to work on his Reagan musical and to bring the characters in the strip up to speed (basically, he needed to "age" them.)

      I've read Doonesbury for over 30 years, and it's been funny and incisive for decades. But Bloom County initially struck me as a better-drawn but dada-esque version of Doonesbury, and every single time I've tried to read a Breathed strip since then, I'm amazed at how spectacularly unfunny and annoying I've found it to be.

      Your mileage may vary, of course.

  7. Garfield lives on? by OriginalArlen · · Score: 0
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  8. Some Children's Book... by crymeph0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From a photo caption in TFA:

    Breathed's new child's book, Pete & Pickles, features Pete, a lonely pig who vacuums his wife's grave.

    Yeah, I'm gonna run right out and buy that for my toddler. Granted, he says it's not directly mentioned in the text, it's just there in the pictures in case you want to point it out to your kids, but still.

    I guess I shouldn't be too hard on him, since it's not like he's forcing me to buy the book. I just feel like there's a societal obsession with getting our kids to "mature" as fast as possible, rather than just letting them be kids.

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    1. Re:Some Children's Book... by OriginalArlen · · Score: 5, Insightful

      there's a societal obsession with getting our kids to "mature" as fast as possible

      Wha'?! By the age of eight I was walking home from school alone, getting lost in the woods behind the old orchard, and I'd seen Star Wars ANH, in which the main father-figure / advisor to the Hiro Protagonist is chopped in half with a laser (how it looked to me at the time!) Nowadays you'd be arrested for child neglect if you leave your kid alone in the house for more than half-an-hour! Come on, if anything it's the opposite way round.

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    2. Re:Some Children's Book... by crymeph0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As far as the freedoms we give them to act on their own, you're right, it's the other way around. I'm talking about what we put in their heads while we have them locked up in their gilded cages, though - a lot of the media we expose them to is highly sexualized and violent, and I feel like I'm just supposed to talk to my daughter until she accepts this as normal, instead of letting her go play in the flowers and be innocent for a while longer.

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    3. Re:Some Children's Book... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this "innocent" notion is what's new. if your daughter is old enough to walk, she's old enough to plow the fields or work in the factory or get married and have babies, just like in the "good old days" that you people are constantly pining for

      get over it

    4. Re:Some Children's Book... by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'm gonna run right out and buy that for my toddler. Granted, he says it's not directly mentioned in the text, it's just there in the pictures in case you want to point it out to your kids, but still.

      It's really no more "out there" than some of the imagery in classics from Maurice Sendak or Charles Lutwidge Dodgson's Alice's Adventures in Wonderland.

      My problem with Breathed is that I never really thought his stuff was funny.

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    5. Re:Some Children's Book... by Klinky · · Score: 1
      Turn off the TV & don't watch PG-13+ movies with her around. There's not as much violent/sexual media as you think and it actually is very controllable.

      However she's not free from it completely as while playing in the flowers a hawk can come down and snatch a field mouse and eat it up or a cat might get hit by a car someday. Then there's always the classic "two dogs mating in the front lawn of your neighbors house" to bring up the birds and bees. Anyways there's quite a bit of violence and sex in nature. Probably not as much as in a few hours of primetime TV, but still it's there to some extent. Also note that in yee olde times women were almost sold off into marriage or married by 13/14, couldn't vote and had restricted freedoms. So as far as being better off and having more innocence, I think your daughter is definitely better off in modern times.

    6. Re:Some Children's Book... by somersault · · Score: 1

      Yeah I noticed that one too. Those kids are going to have some weird ideas growing up. "Mom, can we go and vacuum grandpa's grave?" I can just imagine them taking toy vacuum cleaners in and making an old lady have a heart attack because of the sheer cheek of it all..

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    7. Re:Some Children's Book... by nadolph · · Score: 0

      I watched Total Recall with my little brother when he was 5 years old. Didn't seem to faze him. But nowadays, kids are total n00bs.

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    8. Re:Some Children's Book... by sukotto · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That reminds me this wonderful little map of Sheffield, Britain, with "allowed to roam" overlays: http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/06_02/playgraphicDM1406_736x800.jpg

      Each overlay shows where the eight year old child was allowed to cover unsupervised. Sad how much more constricted and hemmed in each generation of that family has become over the last century.

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    9. Re:Some Children's Book... by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 1

      "Breathed's new child's book, Pete & Pickles, features Pete, a lonely pig who vacuums his wife's grave." Yeah, I'm gonna run right out and buy that for my toddler. Granted, he says it's not directly mentioned in the text, it's just there in the pictures in case you want to point it out to your kids, but still.

      The point is that Pete is sad. According to TFA, he meets Pickles , "a circus elephant with an extraordinary lust for life" who "uses her wild imagination to upend Pete's quiet life". According to Breathed, the idea is that that imagination "can be used in a way that's almost therapeutic".

      If you don't think that's an appropriate message for kids, I pity yours.

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    10. Re:Some Children's Book... by crymeph0 · · Score: 1

      What's so innocence-shattering about plowing the fields, or even working in the factory, provided it's not a sweatshop? Just because children were put to work earlier and harder in "the old days" doesn't mean they were exposed to life's horrors, it just means they grew up with a better work ethic.

      Your other example about getting married young, is/was definitely a problem, but outside of the more primitive tribal cultures, even "olden times folk" wouldn't marry off a nine year old, they'd at least wait until she hit puberty. Not great, but a fourteen year old is at least theoretically capable of handling that kind of pressure.

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    11. Re:Some Children's Book... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >> I just feel like there's a societal obsession with getting our kids to "mature" as fast as possible, rather than just letting them be kids.

      Unless they're on an airplane, right?

    12. Re:Some Children's Book... by dwye · · Score: 1

      Obviously, you never heard any Grimm's Fairy Tales as a youth, nor read even a retelling of the Odyssey, nor of Greek Mythology, nor even Hurlbut's Story Of The Bible.

      Admittedly, the print media (i.e., "graphic novels") can be a bit much, but the words are no worse than they usually are.

      Heck, I grow up watching Westerns on TV and reading Michael Morecock, and it hasn't affected me any (he says, drinking a toast to his vanished youth, from a cup made from an enemy's skull :-) .

      That last paragraph was a joke, of course. I didn't discover Morecock until college. The Aeneid, and Tale Of Da Derga's Hostel, on the other hand... Thanks, Harvard Classics.

    13. Re:Some Children's Book... by fitten · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's the rationalization of a helicopter parent. I see too many kids these days who have no clue on how to do anything themselves because parents try to protect them from everything in the world "to preserve their innocence". They don't want their kids to get scraped knees, do anything that might cause even a whisper of pain or anything like that because "modern kids don't need to know those things". Those kids end up not knowing anything or how to deal with any situation that they haven't seen on Barney or Vegetales.

      It's a part of growing up. Don't let your kids do things where they might get their arms chopped off (at least, not without a lot of supervision) but trying to isolate them from scraped knees and knowing what goes on around them (I'm not gonna tell my kids about strangers because it might scare them!) is just bad for them in the long run. Chores and some work doesn't hurt them.

      Being bored just teaches them how to find things to do, it won't kill them. I used to read encyclopedias when I got bored, for example, or play games or go out and explore the woods behind our house. I get bored very rarely (not even once a year that I can think of) because there are so many things to do as long as you take an active part in your life. If you're dependent upon someone else supplying you with things to do (watching TV, playing video games, having to always be hanging around other people), you'll always be easily bored because you've never had to supply your own activities. Teach your kids to be confident and instill in them that curiosity and inquisitiveness is good. Let them stumble on their own sometimes even though you know it will happen. They'll learn from it (and not resent you for not protecting them).

      But, putting your kids in a gilded cage definitely will have issues down the line, like always wanting someone else to be their nanny for the rest of their life, for example.

    14. Re:Some Children's Book... by mpapet · · Score: 1

      What exactly is wrong with giving your kid a way to experience/talk about death? Pets will die, relatives may die, you know real life stuff. If this guy has put that into a context that speaks to kids, maybe make it funny, then more power to him.

      Now, that's different than teaching them the 7 stages of grief before first grade or talking about death OUT of context of their narrow life experience.

      A book like this and others that normalize things like the human body (grossology) are great to have on the shelf. Your kid will pick it up. As you know, they pick *everything* up. If it speaks to them, then they'll have questions. If not, they'll just put it down and forget about it.

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    15. Re:Some Children's Book... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't want to shield your kids from too much. I haven't read this book and don't find myself too interested in contributing yet more dough to a guy whose day has come and gone. In any case a character who tenderly attends to his dead wife's grave is not a bad image for children. They are somehow attracted by the big issues. Rightly so. -- I have two teenagers.

    16. Re:Some Children's Book... by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 1

      or even working in the factory, provided it's not a sweatshop?

      Back in those days, factories generally *were* sweatshops.

    17. Re:Some Children's Book... by crymeph0 · · Score: 1

      I'm afraid you misunderstand my dilemma. I do want my kid to get scraped knees and learn how to fail, I just don't want them dealing with the really heavy issues like death and sex until they're old enough to understand what I'm talking about. To me, those issues are the mental equivalent of "things where they might get their arms chopped off"

      I really do hope my kid can spend a lot of time unsupervised growing up. My parents retired to the family farm, where I spent a lot of my youth exploring with my cousin without adult guidance, and I survived, and I'm excited about my kid being able to do the same when we go down to visit them.

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    18. Re:Some Children's Book... by Norwell+Bob · · Score: 2, Funny

      I didn't discover Morecock until college.

      Well, that kind of experimentation is likely to get you beat up in high school.

    19. Re:Some Children's Book... by mpapet · · Score: 1

      There's not as much violent/sexual media as you think and it actually is very controllable.

      Yes, there is. You are just desensitized to it. Turn off the TV for 90 days and then turn it back on. You'll have an entirely different response.

      hile playing in the flowers a hawk can come down and snatch a field mouse and eat it up or a cat might get hit by a car someday.

      Those examples are real, interactive life. Those are all opportunities where you get to be a parent and the child learns to interact/deal with the world around her/him. *Nothing* on TV is any of those things.

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    20. Re:Some Children's Book... by OriginalArlen · · Score: 1

      That would be Michael Moorcock. The first book of his that I encountered, aged about 11, had an incestuous sex with a lesbian nun on page 2. Now *that's* how you make a fan for life.

      PS whaddya mean, "retelling" of the Odyssey? Read the real thing! (OK, OK, a (good!) translation into English is probably acceptable.)

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    21. Re:Some Children's Book... by mpapet · · Score: 1

      Obviously, you never heard any Grimm's Fairy Tales as a youth, nor read even a retelling of the Odyssey, nor of Greek Mythology, nor even Hurlbut's Story Of The Bible.

      You lumped reading, which is a mentally stimulating activity. You know like, sit still, concentrate for an extended period of time, and create the images you are reading? Watching TV does none of those things.

      It's also important to note that reality has a certain level of violence to it that children must learn to cope with by getting assistance from their parents. TV portrays violence as a kind of excitement. I'm not okay with that. You shouldn't be either.

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    22. Re:Some Children's Book... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Huh..huh...huh...He said "Morecock"...huh...huh.

    23. Re:Some Children's Book... by fitten · · Score: 1

      Ah... My parents let me do things that they knew would fail, usually after explaining why it wasn't a good idea. I believe that it gave me confidence. I had friends who just drifted through life... presented with any kind of challenge and they would recoil from it. Even to things like food... My parents always presented food as something positive to try, even if I didn't like it that was fine, but always positive at the start. I see so many kids these days that will only eat from a menu of like 3 items and simply won't try anything off the list. I think one of the causes is that the parents just feed them whatever they want because it's the easiest thing to do for them. Then you get kids who won't eat and just whinge and moan if one of their three items isn't on the menu when you go elsewhere.

    24. Re:Some Children's Book... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There were two types of kids on my street, those who would play outside and those who were kept by there parents inside. Of the ones who played outside all are fairly well off, of the inside ones most are service sector and the rest are drug addicts, except one who went on to Berkeley and makes tons of money. The irony of their becoming addicts is that those of us who hung out out side started drinking beer and smoking weed well before the inside kids. I'm not saying this is a universal truth or anything more than an anecdotal trend on my street, but I'm giving my kids a taser and letting them ride their bike where they want.

    25. Re:Some Children's Book... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you ever see Bambi, Old Yeller, Land Before Time... and that's not even getting into the infanticide-heavy Grimm Brothers stuff. Death used to be a MUCH more explicit theme in "kids'" movies.

      And what exactly is "sexualized and violent" about a character mourning his dead wife, anyway?

    26. Re:Some Children's Book... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sometimes you don't have a choice in the matter, I had to explain to my son in the space of 4 months why my best friend and my brother-in law won't be coming by any more.

      He seems to understand that they won't be coming by but he doesn't get the why part yet.

    27. Re:Some Children's Book... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That picture seems disingenuous... How many streets and cars were there in 1918? How busy was the area? What was the total area population then vs. today?

      Seems like simplistic thinking to just decry the actions of modern parents without examining all of the details.

    28. Re:Some Children's Book... by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      I guess I shouldn't be too hard on him, since it's not like he's forcing me to buy the book. I just feel like there's a societal obsession with getting our kids to "mature" as fast as possible, rather than just letting them be kids.

      I'd trust him to handle it well. This isn't a new direction - I bought my daughter Mars Needs Moms a couple years ago. The climax is built around a mildly terrifying premise for a toddler, but it's so well done it's a "read it again, Daddy!" book. Even though it's still terrifying each time.

      But I enjoy big f*ing roller coasters, so maybe it's in the genes. One playgroup-mom was thoroughly horrified. I was so happy about that, her eyes bugged out. She likes to insulate her kids to the point of a 9-year old not knowing where meat comes from, so, we're pretty far apart in most regards.

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    29. Re:Some Children's Book... by sjames · · Score: 1

      I find it interesting that the same adults who confine kids to the front yard or in the house also wring their hands over kids choosing to plop in front of the TV and play video games. Honestly what do they expect to happen if the kids can't go anywhere interesting outside (like a friend's house) without an escort? Then they wonder why childhood obesity is on the rise. Again, what';s to be expected? I suppose the kids COULD get some exercise by pacing in front of the window like animals in a bad zoo, but that's approaching the limit.

      It takes a village to raise a child, but the whole village has to go to work, so that's out. It's almost amusing the way the adult population all works together to create the 'civilization' we live in, doesn't like the results, then either actively or passively votes for more of the same. The mere suggestion that perhaps doing more of the same will simply yield more of the same will typically be met with a combination of derision, name calling, and perhaps demands to present the complete and air-tight solution to 100% of the world's problems in one shot or shut up and vote for more of the same like everyone else.

    30. Re:Some Children's Book... by statemachine · · Score: 1

      I'd have to say that a lot of the media has turned toward the more violent aspect, as that is somehow more acceptable to the TV and movie censors than sex. Women have breasts... OMG! But cut her head off and watch the blood spray... meh.

      Damn, when I look back to my childhood, my father took me to a lot of Rated-R movies which were merely sexual and hardly violent at all. Of course, I was also riding public transit or walking (by myself) by 10 to get to and from school.

    31. Re:Some Children's Book... by El_Oscuro · · Score: 1
      I also enjoy big fscking roller coasters. Last summer I took my 6 year old on Lightning Racer after she said Trailblazer was boring.

      We got to the line where there was a someone in front of us and she said "Daddy, I'm so scared.". But when it was our turn, she jumped right in the car. Afterwards, "Daddy, can we go on it again?". We went on Wildcat instead. Oh well...

      BTW, Bloom County Rocks!

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    32. Re:Some Children's Book... by thekm · · Score: 1

      there's a societal obsession with getting our kids to "mature" as fast as possible

      Wha'?! By the age of eight I was walking home from school alone, getting lost in the woods behind the old orchard, and I'd seen Star Wars ANH, in which the main father-figure / advisor to the Hiro Protagonist is chopped in half with a laser (how it looked to me at the time!) Nowadays you'd be arrested for child neglect if you leave your kid alone in the house for more than half-an-hour! Come on, if anything it's the opposite way round.

      Nope, it's actually a scary mixture of both!

    33. Re:Some Children's Book... by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Nice. Mine really wants to do this one but is still too short. Maybe next summer. I have to admit one needs to work up to that one.

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  9. two months by Speare · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Loved Bloom County but it was stuck in time. I think I paid attention to Berkeley Breathed for about two months after he ended Bloom County. I read a couple Outland strips. Even Berkeley must have realized they sucked, because he had to save it by reintroducing Opus and friends, which he had announced he didn't want to do. But it still sucked. Other than reading someone's Bloom County anthology, and smiling with the fond memory, I haven't looked at them since.

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    1. Re:two months by Penguinisto · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Agreed, big-time. It was like the 1980's and early '90s never ended in there... I loved it when it was out, but nowadays, it seems pretty irrelevant.

      In spite of its subtle politics, it was damned funny. The politicking he employed was more of a scalpel (far better than the blatant dull machete' that was Doonesbury) which is what made you read Bloom County no matter what your politics were - and even if you were a staunch neocon, you laughed your ass off at it.

      Then again, it lacks that timelessness which Calvin and Hobbes has. I have a shedload of Calvin and Hobbes books on the shelves... OTOH, I can't remember owning any Bloom County books since 1993 (I'd lost the ones I had when the apartment got flooded... never really bothered to replace them - I really should head out and get a few just to take me back).

      C&H is a never-ending fountain of laughs (in spite of the moronic and seemingly never-ending 'calvin pissing on $object' car sticker derivatives). Bloom County OTOH is (sadly) a time capsule.

      /P

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    2. Re:two months by snspdaarf · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I agree. I tried to like Outland, but it just was not a good strip. Sticking Opus in it did not help. It was only a reminder that this was not Bloom County. And, the Opus strip, well, when the writer resorts to "and now, a character's lovechild shows up", it means there is a problem. TV, comics, serial novels, it means the same thing. The well is running dry.

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    3. Re:two months by larry+bagina · · Score: 1

      Good news! I'm developing a car sticker featuring Calvin shitting on $object.

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    4. Re:two months by somersault · · Score: 1

      when the writer resorts to "and now, a character's lovechild shows up", it means .. the well is running dry.

      Dewey was Donald's nephew. At least, that's what he and Daisy always claimed....

      It appears a lovechild has shown up in your sig!

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    5. Re:two months by snspdaarf · · Score: 1

      Well, I'll be... I'll change it at the end of the month. Right now, I have to meet with the lawyer about this paternity suit.....

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  10. Good run, good time to stop by rnelsonee · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Argh - I just threw away all my Bloom County books last month when I moved! The comic was great - I'm 30 so I missed some of the political references when I was younger but I read all the books later and loved those comics. I didn't pick up Opus again even after he was back the last couple of years because it didn't feel the same. I'll be sure to buy the compilation of all the latest ones and enjoy them. Opus certainly had a great run and it's probably time to put him away before he gets too old.

    1. Re:Good run, good time to stop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Argh - I just threw away all my Bloom County books last month when I moved!

      Keep them thrown away. Maybe the site is still around, maybe it got a takedown notice; I can't find it right now ... but if you search perhaps you'll find the site by a fan who kept all his cut-out newspaper Bloom County strips. And this is where the tale turns ticklish -- he noticed & documented that a heck of a lot of dialog got rewritten in the books. "Softened", "politically updated" - call it what you will - Breathed sold us out in a big way. Those books ain't the sharp jabs we read in the papers.

      Which is when I threw out my books. I don't want updated - I want my comic collections Complete & Unabridged, Warts & All, No Revisionism. Fuck Breathed as a lying asshole - he'll never get another penny from me.

      Sorry I can't find the link. Maybe if someone has it or an archive.org version we can have a verifiable post worth modding up as Informative. I appreciate this sounds like FUD right now.

  11. Where are my mod points? by h4x354x0r · · Score: 1

    This is exactly what I thought.

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  12. Favorite Bloom County punchline ... by Coreigh · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Pear pimples for hairy fish nuts?"

    Aside from any reasons that may be brought up to be annoyed with Breathed, his comics or his politics, Opus and Bloom County made me laugh HYSTERICALLY at things I did not even understand or knew I should be aware of. That is what I think makes a good comic or cartoon. A mix of simple funny and satire can bring smiles to both those in the know and those who just like to watch.

    Coreigh

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    1. Re:Favorite Bloom County punchline ... by JackL · · Score: 1

      Opus: And if elected I pledge to push for the legalization of the home use of 50mm anti-tank bazookas!

      Old lady from the Society of Pro-acrylic knitters: Good heavens? Whatever for?

    2. Re:Favorite Bloom County punchline ... by El_Oscuro · · Score: 1

      Bloom County was just the best comic strip I read in the '80s. The characters going on strike and being replaced by "scabs", "Bill the Gates" (a term I still use today), "What do you have to go up against George Bush? A dead cat.", the Mary Kay series, Jackbassalope, and so on.

      Everyone here on slashdot is beating him up over "Outland" and "Opus". I will admit that "Outland" wasn't always funny, but when it was, it was classic too. Anyone remember "Who plugged Mortimer Mouse?" or "The meaning of mens life"?

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  13. BC still available... by misfit815 · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...at http://news.yahoo.com/comics/bloomcounty.

    I've been reading the old stuff day-by-day. Some of it is remarkably relevant to current events.

    Of course, today's strip is conveniently missing - go figure. Anyway, I thought I'd share the link to a comic that's on my short list.

    J

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    1. Re:BC still available... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't abbreviate something to BC in a comic strip thread. You're likely to get ignored.

  14. Like Groening, let it go on WAY past its prime by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Bloom County was probably the best comic strip of the 80's. And, when Breathed started to lose steam, he ended it.

    But he didn't, really. He just cut it back to Sundays under a new name. And so that pattern has continued until the series had long since become stale and forgettable. The once-great Bloom County was reduced to a great big pile of who-gives-a-shit.

    Sometimes, if you love something, you have to let it go. Better that it dies a dignified death than to drag it on into mediocrity. Matt Groening and Berkley Breathed are, sadly, prime examples of guys who had something truly magical, which they then beat into the ground for decades past when they should have called it quits.

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    1. Re:Like Groening, let it go on WAY past its prime by CRCulver · · Score: 4, Insightful

      At least Matt Groening can say that he gave control of The Simpsons over to a staff of writers. Berke Breathed is responsible for the declining quality of the franchise all by himself.

    2. Re:Like Groening, let it go on WAY past its prime by zerocommazero · · Score: 1

      And that he did. I used to love Bloom County as a kid. Outland just seemed like a fragemnt of an idea stretched out into a series. I never read Opus. The recurring theme in a lot of these posts is he should've just stopped for a while. Stripping out all the characters except Opus was a bad idea as well. Just imagine if Mr. Breathed had stopped and then started up in 2004 when dubbleya got (hic) relected into office. That shit just writes itself.

    3. Re:Like Groening, let it go on WAY past its prime by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shmiberal: one who is assumed liberal, just because he's a professional whiner in the newspaper.

      "The once-great Bloom County was reduced to a great big pile of who-gives-a-shit. ... Matt Groening and Berkley Breathed are, sadly, prime examples of guys who had something truly magical, which they then beat into the ground for decades past when they should have called it quits."

      Gentlemen, we have a whinger. Let us not judge by a person's peak of accomplishment, but by their determination to persevere after their first outpouring of creative energy runs dry.

      I for one do not subscribe to the view that a second effort tarnishes a great effort, unlike some of the schmiblers who post here.

    4. Re:Like Groening, let it go on WAY past its prime by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      Sory, I can only judge the man as he is TODAY. The Berkley Breathed of 1989 was a talented guy, no doubt. But the Berkley Breathed of today is a boring douchebag. Doing one great thing in your life doesn't mean you should be immune from criticism for every fuck-up thereafter.

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  15. Bill the Cat by BigRiff · · Score: 0

    Ack!!

  16. Here I sit, typing on my Banana Jr... by volxdragon · · Score: 1

    ...that's been the name of my desktop box (whichever is the current one) for the last two decades. One of my just-out-of-school co-workers asked about "the wierd-ass machine name" of my box not too long ago and I had to dig out the old strips for him. Kids these days don't have any appreciation for the classics! Sigh. Oh, and get off my lawn!

  17. Bloom County doesn't hold up well by jayayeem · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I went back and read some Bloom County books recently. They are as dated as Doonesbury from the early 70s. Not that the weren't great, but they were a product of their time.

    Read your Calvin and Hobbes books instead. Those are timeless. My kids love them.

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    1. Re:Bloom County doesn't hold up well by tekn0lust · · Score: 1

      http://i35.tinypic.com/x3xxz5.jpg Me too, Buddy. Me too.

    2. Re:Bloom County doesn't hold up well by swordgeek · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I wouldn't say that being stuck in time doesn't mean they don't hold up well. Bloom County, like Doonesbury and Pogo before that, were satire and sociopolitical commentary. They don't have much choice but to become dated when politicians retire, events are forgotten, and society moves on. It's a different style, that's all. Social cartoons become dated. Their counterpart (Calvin and Hobbes, Peanuts) don't.

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      "People who do stupid things with hazardous materials often die." -- Jim Davidson on alt.folklore.urban
  18. deja vu. all over again. by viridari · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Breathed has pulled this before. Maybe he's just burned out, who knows. But when his other ventures prove to be far less lucrative, and he gets sick of answering all of the repetitive questions about the whereabouts of Opus, the promise of easy money will bring him out of "retirement". Maybe it will last longer than Jet Li's retirement. But Opus will be back.

  19. Like the artwork, tired of the story by h4x354x0r · · Score: 1

    ...at least the 2nd time around. Let's hope the kids books market is successful enough that BB doesn't have to come back to this again.

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    They were right - the revolution did not get televised. It was posted on YouTube instead. All in 120 characters. SLOOSH!
  20. Penguin? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I always thought Opus looked like a puffin.

  21. Say it ain't so! by fionnghal · · Score: 1

    I loved Bloom County. Oh well. *sigh*

  22. Get the complete set. by Shivetya · · Score: 1

    http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Calvin-Hobbes/dp/0740748475/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1223560779&sr=1-1

    I recently purchased this and have been amazed at the strips I missed. The collection books really do leave a lot out and C&H are timeless. Frankly, I enjoy C&H much more and it both children and adults can enjoy it at the same and for different reasons

    --
    * Winners compare their achievements to their goals, losers compare theirs to that of others.
  23. Now... by sl8r · · Score: 1, Insightful

    if only Mallard Fillmore would get the boot, that'd be great.

    1. Re:Now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

      You only hate it because it's conservative. Like most liberals, you only want liberal views expressed in the media.

  24. Good Riddance by sakusha · · Score: 1, Troll

    That comic was totally lame. It was like the Emperor's New Clothes, a guy who can't draw and who isn't funny, but it's put together in a way that sends the message "hey this is so countercultural, you'll be cool if you pretend it's funny." It's like one big in-joke, except nobody's in on the joke except the cartoonist. I'm sick of this "ironic appreciation" hipster crap, can't we have something that is actually funny, rather than "so unfunny it's funny"...?
    There are plenty of excellent cartoonists who deserve space on the comics page, now that he's out of the way, maybe we'll see the next Calvin and Hobbes.

    1. Re:Good Riddance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's one of you in every crowd it seems. Go piss in someone else's cheerios. If you can hit the bowl from your high horse.

    2. Re:Good Riddance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That comic was totally lame. It was like the Emperor's New Clothes, a guy who can't draw and who isn't funny, but it's put together in a way that sends the message "hey this is so countercultural, you'll be cool if you pretend it's funny." It's like one big in-joke, except nobody's in on the joke except the cartoonist. I'm sick of this "ironic appreciation" hipster crap, can't we have something that is actually funny, rather than "so unfunny it's funny"...?
      There are plenty of excellent cartoonists who deserve space on the comics page, now that he's out of the way, maybe we'll see the next Calvin and Hobbes.

      So John McCain posts on Slashdot? Just because it's counterculture doesn't mean it isn't funny. Look up humor in the dictionary. Most humor is based in "irony". Just because you need to be informed about current topics doesn't mean it's elitist crap. I didn't need anyone to tell me Bloom County was funny and no one had to explain it to me. I discovered it on my own and I understood all the jokes and found it funny. It's okay, I don't get Right Wing humor so there's some symmetry in the Universe.

    3. Re:Good Riddance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But your bowl's on a horse of its own.

    4. Re:Good Riddance by DWIM · · Score: 1

      That comic was totally lame. It was like the Emperor's New Clothes, a guy who can't draw...

      I might've been tempted to take you somewhat seriously, but then I got to this bit.

      It's clear you didn't appreciate his works. Got no problem with that. But is in "Insightful?" Mods, give me a fucking break!! It's just an opinion that amounts to "I didn't like Breathed's comics." And like him or not, the guy can indeed draw quite well.

    5. Re:Good Riddance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah I hate XKCD too.

    6. Re:Good Riddance by agrounds · · Score: 1

      I think you have confused Bloom County with Ctrl-Alt-Del.

  25. The only thing I can think to say is... by Yeff · · Score: 5, Funny

    ..."Hairy Fishnuts!"

    --
    "Freedom Through Vigilance"
    1. Re:The only thing I can think to say is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      For pear dimples?

    2. Re:The only thing I can think to say is... by Brad1138 · · Score: 1

      The only thing I can think to do is sing...

      Every leaf you rake,
      Every dog you wake,
      Every herring you bake,
      I'll be watching you.

      Opus, you will be missed.

      --
      If you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people
  26. Well... by therpham · · Score: 1

    I am a little too young to have read Bloom County when it ran, but I know that every time I read Opus, it was just annoying and non-funny. However, if so many people remember Bloom County fondly, maybe I should dig up a collection book.

    1. Re:Well... by swordgeek · · Score: 1

      Definitely do so. I've never been a big fan of Opus. There wasn't much story, there wasn't much continuity, and there just wasn't much fun. Same thing with Outland. However, the original Bloom County was something I waited breathlessly for every day.

      Get a collection, and make sure it's full of dailies, not just the "Sunday Colours."

      --

      "People who do stupid things with hazardous materials often die." -- Jim Davidson on alt.folklore.urban
    2. Re:Well... by Mesa+MIke · · Score: 1

      Sure do that, but you probably won't be able to fully appreciate it outside the cultural context of the time in which it ran.

  27. Re:Stupid Comic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bingo.. Saying that this moronic comic should even be in the same universe as Calvin and Hobbes? What the hell are you thinking. That's so insane I can't even see the logic in the comparison.

    Breathed is so far left that he had to quit just to go find himself.

    Totally agree he'll be back if Obama wins to gloat. Or he is so convinced Obama is going to win he won't have any material since he can't bash the Bush administration or some random war we're in because the Savior Obama will end all that. Maybe that is why he quit.

    He won't be a book MY kid reads. That's for sure.

  28. OFN FCOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    old freaking news for crying out loud... i read about this last week.

    1. Re:OFN FCOL by corky842 · · Score: 1

      You must be new here.

  29. What kind of ending... by rodney+dill · · Score: 2, Interesting

    1. A 2010 starchild moment.
    2. A Matrix ending, where Opus gets to spend all his time in his own matrix illusion with the dandelions.
    3. A Soprano momemt, where all the old characters meet in a restaurant, Bill the Cat can't park the car, and the last frame goes black?
    4. Seinfeld, where they all end up in prison.

    --

    Use your head, can't you, use your head,
    You're on earth, there's no cure for that
    - S. Beckett
    1. Re:What kind of ending... by plopez · · Score: 1

      How about Opus taken to the backroom of the local animal shelter?

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      putting the 'B' in LGBTQ+
    2. Re:What kind of ending... by ojintoad · · Score: 1

      It's worth noting that's where the character currently is in the comic.

      http://dir.salon.com/topics/berkeley_breathed/

    3. Re:What kind of ending... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dallas ending: None of the post-Bloom County strips never happened.

    4. Re:What kind of ending... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about:

      5. Newhart, where Opus wakes up back in Bloom County and it was all a dream

    5. Re:What kind of ending... by rodney+dill · · Score: 1

      Well the backroom probably refers to where the animals are put to sleep, and Breathed's humor is dark enough to end it that way. ...but PETA will be pissed.

      --

      Use your head, can't you, use your head,
      You're on earth, there's no cure for that
      - S. Beckett
    6. Re:What kind of ending... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      5. Firefly/Serenity, where they killed off Book and Wash for no reason.

  30. I have fond memories of Opus... by BarneyRabble · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't know about the rest of you Slashdotters, but I have fond memories of reading the newspaper every day to see what kind of mischief Opus and the gang in Bloom County were going to do next, such as putting Bill Gates brain inside of Bill the Cat...and Opus getting a nose job. But the best one was the first time we all met him...encountering a Hare Krishna....with the "Pear Pimples for Hairy Fishnuts" reply. Go back in time. Remember a time when politcal humor was meant to be funny and not crass and callous as it is today with people like Steven Colbert and Jon Stewart. Berke Breathed poked fun at situations, he didn't rattle the bear's cage all the time. And as for his children's books, he has made a couple of cute ones, such as "Red Rider Came Calling" and "The Last Bassalope" and one of my personal faves, "Edward Fudwupper Fibbed Big", a story about one child's lie that can cause big trouble. So its sad to see Opus go. He can have a Herrring Whopper on me, heavy mayo :)

  31. Sometimes it's best to just let go ... by eagee · · Score: 1

    What I think worked so well about Bloom County was the evolving social commentary in the daily strip. The Sunday strips never were my favorite part of the series, 'never seemed well suited for the weekly one liners.

    Since Opus started appearing in the Sunday comics again I've been opening the paper every week with my fingers crossed *hoping* to recapture some of the old charm. It never happened.

    After all, nothing gold can stay. I'd rather stop seeing it in the paper, than see it walk further down the same road that Garfield did.

  32. Just like the NFL by BCW2 · · Score: 1

    BB is just like Bill Parcells, he moves on and does well, just not quite as well as the last time. It's a steady downhill run.

    --
    Professional Politicians are not the solution, they ARE the problem.
  33. Berekley Breathed... by penguinstorm · · Score: 1

    I knew The Far Side. I worked with The Far Side. You, Berkeley Breated, are no Far Side.

    On the other hand, in the hierarchy of Penguins Opus ranks pretty high, possibly higher than Tux.

    --
    Skot Nelson music is my saviour / i was maimed by rock and roll
  34. I remember Bloom County by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'm old enough to remember Bloom County (and the Far Side, for that matter) - it was a wonderful, funny, insightful, different comic strip.

    Unfortunately Opus (the comic) never really fired on all cylinders. Breathed tried to do something a bit different, but it just didn't quite work. Then, when he came to realize that, he started trying to drag back a few of the Bloom County regulars; but without young Milo it just couldn't work.

    I think Breathed would've been better served - as would we fans - if he'd just resurrected Bloom County the same way Trudeau did with Doonesbury. It's a comic - so there's no rule you have to age your characters in real time. (Although some of us would prefer Bil Keane did exactly that, since it'd mean little Billy would've retired years ago).

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    #DeleteChrome
    1. Re:I remember Bloom County by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Walt Kelley's Pogo is constantly listed as an inspiration by professional cartoonists. The strip was well before my time, so the only time I ever read it was in a complilation. To my surprise, I didn't understand a thing that was going on in Pogo and didn't get the humor at all. It was all topical humor.

      I had a similar experience re-reading my old Bloom County books. While I understood the jokes, I knew time had passed them by. Even the funniest material was all very dated. Such is the peril of social commentary. I don't have the Bloom County books anymore, but Peanuts and Calvin & Hobbes are still on the shelf.

    2. Re:I remember Bloom County by NotBornYesterday · · Score: 1

      There was a mid-eighties strip during which Opus and his hippie girlfriend broke up. She pitched him out the front door mummy-wrapped in his old cassette-based music collection. His comment was something like "Yup, I definitely shoulda switched to CDs this year." Sigh. Not to many young people are going to relate well to that one.

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      I prefer rogues to imbeciles because they sometimes take a rest.
    3. Re:I remember Bloom County by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

      (Although some of us would prefer Bil Keane did exactly that, since it'd mean little Billy would've retired years ago).

      That's just it, though. The melon-headed monstrosities of Family Circus made a pact with the Dark Lord for immortality many years ago, and are already middle aged. The flaw in the contract that sold their souls is that they are stuck as prepubescent rugrats who screw up words and repeat the same stupid jokes over and over again forever.

  35. Meh is right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I agree. When Bloom County first came out in the 80s, it was touted as "the new Doonesbury!" (And this was exactly when Gary Trudeau took a hiatus from Doonesbury for over a year to re-work the strip and bring the characters up-to-date.)

    No. Not even close. I tried reading Bloom County when it first came out, and just hated it... and in 20+ years, my opinion of Breathed's work hasn't changed.

    To this day, I have never found one of Breathed's strips funny, ever. I've never laughed once at any of them, and just find them annoying when I occasionally look over them to see if he's gotten any better.

    Granted, Breathed's a much better artist than Trudeau, but his sense of "humor" leaves me completely cold.

    1. Re:Meh is right by initdeep · · Score: 1

      you are a sad, sad little man..... i pity you.

      http://www.berkeleybreathed.com/pages/Favorite_Strips_Full.asp?ID=11

      if you can't find the humor in that, you have a serious problem.

  36. We did have it good in the 80's. by Hawthorne01 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Bloom County. The Far Side. Calvin & Hobbes.

    And Zippy the Pinhead for those into, ah, more chemically-induced forms of humor.

    But now we have web comics. And the golden age of comic strips is with us once again.

    The comic strip is dead. Long live the comic strip.

    --
    "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
    1. Re:We did have it good in the 80's. by jejones · · Score: 1

      The Far Side? Feh!

      B. Kliban!

      "I'm Noko Marie. Don't mess with me."

  37. G-strings for pre-teen girls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Saw this on the news about a year ago about stores that sell g-strings for your girls and they interview the parents with their 10 year old girls.

    Who the eff buy a g-string for a 10 year old?
    And WHY?
    You dont want pedophiles to see nasty underwear lines?

    Problem with blaming the media is we forget that many fucktards out there shouldnt be allowed to raise pets never mind human beings.

    And to the old fart above who used to walk (wat dat?), I have brothers who are cops and firemen and they can explain to you the many dangers of leaving young children alone in a house.

    But just like in any forums, you feel the need to show how cool you are even though we all know you've never come close to copulating never mind have kids.

    Personally, since I have boys, I have more problems with sports that show blind side hits 'best of' recaps in football/hockey and was thrilled to death when my oldest said that its 'cowardly' to hit an opponent who isnt looking and didnt take much courage or skill.
    I had explained to him when he was younger that his martial arts training was meant only to be used in defense, not to attack someone and that the person who punches/hits someone who isnt looking should be embarrased to be called a man.
    He took that and later applied it to something else he found similar.

    1. Re:G-strings for pre-teen girls by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You never should have been permitted to breed because you are an idiot.

  38. Gibberish by 1u3hr · · Score: 1

    And Bloom County would have been perfect during the Bush 2 years Now, I'm going to pull out all my old Bloom County books and read them.

    Is this one, two or three sentences mangled together? And WTF does "2 years" refer to?

    1. Re:Gibberish by i.r.id10t · · Score: 1

      Bush the Second, or Bush II, or Bush2 or Bust v. 2.0, etc.

      --
      Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos
  39. Chemical humor by snspdaarf · · Score: 1

    ....for those into, ah, more chemically-induced forms of humor.

    Makes me think of "The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers."

    --
    Why, without your clothes, you're naked, Miss Dudley!
  40. Videos... by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 1

    Bloom County was my favourite cartoon for years, but I gradually went off it in the Outland series. I have most of the BC books and still have a couple of the T-shirts, slightly faded: "Don't blame me, I voted for Bill'n'Opus" and one with a slightly squashed Bill the Dead Cat. The T-shirts almost still fit me - I blame too many washes for making them shrink.

    I think there's still potential for Breathed to extract something from the older material. The video "A Wish for Wings that Work" featuring Opus (Bill in a supporting role) with was excellent. The BC themes could also be used to inspire videos with Senator Bedfellow, Milo, Oliver, & Binkley.

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    Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire
  41. Honestly, I did not like the strip by Pvt_Waldo · · Score: 1

    I just didn't find it that funny. It lacked any kind of subtlety as compared with Calvin & Hobbes or Mutts for example. /me ducks the stones and fish balls...

  42. Opt Out by mpapet · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Warning: Rant from a crazy parent.

    lot of the media we expose them to is highly sexualized and violent

    Which is exactly why we sold our TV when our daughter was very young. We are all better off for buying a 12" TV that stayed in a cabinet. This is much harder for adults than it is for the kids. Until you do it for a few months, you won't understand.

    Discontinue the cable and stick that money in the bank.

    Is she some kind of Amish freak? No. She watches enough TV at her friends house and then comes home and complains that it wasn't fun.

    and I feel like I'm just supposed to talk to my daughter until she accepts this as normal

    It may be all around us, but it isn't normal or appropriate for children. Most adults just get passive about it and use some kind of complicated thinking to call PBS kids shows "good TV." TV is crack for kids. It's passive gratification and flashing pictures. Stick to your guns on this issue and change your way of living. Getting rid of the TV is a great start.

    --
    http://www.maxineudall.com/2010/02/should-economists-be-sued-for-malpractice.html
    1. Re:Opt Out by OriginalArlen · · Score: 1

      Stick to your guns on this issue and...

      ...shoot your television?

      --

      Everything I needed to know about life, I learnt from Blake's Seven
  43. Spoiler alert by wasted · · Score: 5, Funny

    Breathed already has tentative plans to bring the penguin back in a short feature about discovering a certain country in Europe. It will be called "Mr. Opus's Holland.

    1. Re:Spoiler alert by Ihmhi · · Score: 1

      Sir, here is your Internet that you have rightfully earned. Good show!

  44. Neocons? sense of humor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Neocons having a sense of humor? Really! Everyone knows that upon joining the neocon movement, the sense of humor is surgically removed!

  45. Yikes by imamac · · Score: 1

    The only thing scarier than having an Opus doll is having Opus dolls.

  46. What.. by geekoid · · Score: 1

    Again?

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    The Kruger Dunning explains most post on /. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
  47. Quoting the Poet by Erbo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "The wind doth taste so bittersweet,
    Like jasper wine and sugar,
    It must have blown through someone's feet,
    Like those of Caspar Weinberger."

    --
    Be who you are...and be it in style!
    1. Re:Quoting the Poet by wolfemi1 · · Score: 1

      Nice, I loved that poem. Dumb Carlucci....

  48. Leading Edge by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 1

    The computer humor in the original Bloom County ("Our newest model, with everything the previous model had, but now with tint control") was leading edge!

    --
    "It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
  49. Re:I think I'll go lie down in a field of dandelio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Snorting dandelions is dangerous!

  50. Two words.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Opus Crokus

    http://www.gocomics.com/feature_items/share/384832?feature_id=117
    (2nd row, far right panel)

    I was a teen when KISS first made it big... so this was funny to me.

    1. Re:Two words.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oops, wrong link... http://www.gocomics.com/opus/2008/09/28/

      Sorry...

  51. "Probably the greatest"? by Opyros · · Score: 1

    What about the 1950s and 1960s? Pogo was as great a strip as any of those mentioned, and it was full of political satire! And Peanuts was at its peak then.

  52. Ack ack! by carn1fex · · Score: 1

    oblig ack ack!

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    No matter how thin you slice it, its still baloney.

  53. Cutter John in the future.. by phrackwulf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think I agree with his thinking. I think his next project should be something involving Cutter John. There was a character who was always in support so we never, ever, got a look at what his story was. And it had to be fascinating. Cutter is the warrior we need for the dark time Breathed seems to see us approaching. I think he'd make a deeply wise, but powerful foil for what he does as an artist. Opus does belong to a more simpler, sweeter time.

    --
    What would Richard Feynman do, if he were here right now? He'd do some math and he'd follow through!
  54. "retired" twice before by peter303 · · Score: 1

    Writing comics is damned if do and damned if you dont. The grind to meet deadlines is daunting. Yet if you stop for a while the creative juices may start forcing you draw again.

  55. I'll tell you what they'll think... by Lurkingrue · · Score: 1

    "After I dig through some boxes and find my old Opus dolls. I wonder what my kids are going to think of them."

    Probably something like: "Man, dad sure likes than deformed sea lion doll..."

  56. "now going" to write children's books? by mbius · · Score: 1

    He's been doing them for years. My sister always gives me one for Christmas.

    Why do we turn on great artists when they become normal people?

    --
    you can have my violent video games when you pry them from my cold, dead hands.
    Prime UID Club
  57. My take on Breathed by Zontar_Thing_From_Ve · · Score: 1

    This is just my opinion on the guy. You're all free to agree or disagree.

    Back in the late 80s I knew a guy who (at the time) had a job in the comics industry. Some of you might remember that some Bloom County strips featured a heavy metal band called Death Tongue. After a short period of time, it became Billy and the Boingers. Why? My friend told me that Breathed "got some complaints about the name Death Tongue" so he changed it. My personal take on this is that it sure didn't take much, just a few reader complaints, to make Breathed completely cave in.

    He made this really big deal when he stopped Bloom County and started Outland that nobody from Bloom County would ever appear in it. His central character was Ronald-Ann, the worst character in his Bloom County strip. I'm sure the syndicate told him that his strip sucked and he better fix it, so in comes Opus to the rescue, followed by Bill the Cat and others. Integrity? Well, Breathed has always caved in when given a choice, so you can make up your own mind about whether he has integrity or not.

    Breathed's post Bloom County work sucks. Big time. Read it. Most of you will agree with me. Even better, look on your favorite search engine for some interviews with him. He is one very strange dude. I don't mean eccentric. The word "eccentric" doesn't even begin to describe him. Think of crazy weird or scary weird and you will know what he's like. Again, just look for and read the interviews and decide if you really think he's somebody anyone should pay any attention to or care what he thinks.

  58. Farewell, Opert (sic). by WindSword · · Score: 1

    I'm an expatrite American and I held up Bloom County as proof that satire and irony were indeed alive and well in the US.

    Bloom County even featured as a specialist subject on Radio 4's Mastermind (transplanted from TV). The laughter from the audience still sticks in my mind. The setter of the questions, his wife. Thank you both.

    (Those of you with encyclopedic memories or back copies will get the Opert tag.)

  59. Bill and the Boingers Record by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Man am I glad I recorded my Billy and the Boingers record onto CD for posterity a number of years ago. Now I can go home and mourn the greatest comic strip ever with "you really stink girl - way oh - way oh - way oh - your really stink, but I love you" with Opus on tuba and "cause I'm a boinger" with Bill on tongue. Ahhh - good times - good times. They just don't make 'em like they used to!

  60. Oh dear God yes... by DG · · Score: 1

    Back in the 80s, when Bloom County was at its height, I had a paper route delivering the Vancouver Sun - which, naturally, ran Bloom County as one of its regular strips.

    The highlight of Saturday was reading the color strips - and I distinctly remember "Pear pimples for hairy fishnuts? - Just hand the dough over Mac!" incapacitating me for almost half an hour. Every time I thought I had the laughter under control, it'd hit me again, and the giggles would recommence.

    OK, so I was like 14 years old and easily amused. But still... quite possibly Funniest Strip Ever.

    I still have a large collection of original 80s vintage Bloom County strips saved in a filing cabinet at home.

    Yes, Outland and Opus were a little bitterer; a little less fun than the halycon Bloom County days, but Breathed never lost his genius. The Outland strip "Perhaps you had better reassess what gives your lives meaning" strip is as good as any Bloom County work.

    I'm sad to see Opus waddle off into the sunset... especially because I think he means it this time.

    DG

    --
    Want to learn about race cars? Read my Book
    1. Re:Oh dear God yes... by Mesa+MIke · · Score: 1
  61. You are not the only one by snspdaarf · · Score: 1

    Not long after the Oklahoma Daily, the student paper at the University of Oklahoma, started running "Bloom County" there was a student commentary comic "Clonesbury". It had Opus going on at Milo about how their strip was so much like "Doonesbury." The final panel has Milo pulling off his Milo Mask to reveal that it was really Zonker. Now *that* was funny!

    --
    Why, without your clothes, you're naked, Miss Dudley!
  62. Excuse me by Mesa+MIke · · Score: 1
  63. There's always Family Circus by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 1

    I've saved years worth of Family Circus comics over the years to provide myself with free toilet paper and to help recycle.

  64. 14 Letter "S" word... by ch33zm0ng3r · · Score: 1

    I only have one thing to say to this: "snugglebunnies snugglebunnies snugglebunnies snugglebunnies snugglebunnies snugglebunnies snugglebunnies snugglebunnies snugglebunnies SNU..." ..damn caps filter.... I found "Billy and the Boingers Bootleg" in my aunt's collection when I was a small kid. It was always entertaining and as an added bonus took on a whole new perspective to me when I was old enough to understand more of it.

  65. Opus is dead by Tim+Doran · · Score: 1

    Miss him, miss him.

  66. Charles and Dianna by gr8_phk · · Score: 1

    I used to cut out BC and save them in a shoebox when he did Charles and Dianna. Then some time around 198x I threw them all out. I was shocked none of those ever surfaced after she died. The only words I remember are the baby calling her a "saucy wench". That was great stuff.

  67. ooops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So I said "good riddance!" when I first read this story... ...and then I read that Opus is NOT Mallard Fillmore. Oops. THAT is the comic that is a waste of perfectly good ink and paper.

  68. My daugher has my old Opus doll by haaz · · Score: 1

    She's now six years old -- I gave it to her many years ago.

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    -- haaz.
  69. Time flies by digitalcowboy · · Score: 1

    And Bloom County would have been perfect during the Bush 2 years.

    Bush has only been president for two years? Seems like almost twelve to me.

    (In fact, it's more than that because the Bush family owns Bill Clinton. So it's more like 20 years of continuous Bush control.)

  70. Re:Good Riddance is Right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow, a guy gets modded as a troll because he dares attack a sacred geek cow?

    Tough shit -- everything he said was right. I've read Doonesbury for 30+ years and laughed more times than I could count. Every time I tried to read Bloom County, I thought, "this is crap pretending that it's hip, and people are afraid to admit that it's not funny because everyone else is pretending that it is." No, it wasn't.

  71. Say it ain't so! by opus · · Score: 1

    And what am I supposed to do until then?!

  72. All I can say is..... by awright69 · · Score: 1

    "Pffft." "Ack!"

  73. Re:I think I'll go lie down in a field of dandelio by limekiller4 · · Score: 1

    Are you snorting dandelions again?? Don't you know what that can do you to you? Good lord, it can't be good...

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    My .02,
    Limekiller
  74. Wish he never parodied Trump by tbuskey · · Score: 1

    That was the downfall of one of my favorite strips.

  75. Re:Good Riddance is Right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Every time I tried to read Bloom County, I thought, "this is crap pretending that it's hip, and people are afraid to admit that it's not funny because everyone else is pretending that it is." No, it wasn't.

    I read Bloom County for its entire run and laughed more times than I could count. I guess I was wrong, though, since it apparently wasn't funny. Thanks for pointing out the error of my ways.