So this is not an advantage of Perl itself, it's the result of having people who know what they're doing. Your point can be made about any project using any technology out there (which I suppose was your point =))
Not even as one of those little links in-between the stories? Isn't this important? If this was the latest "OMFG M$ IS TEH SUXX LOLOLOL" article would it be relegated to the section without exposure to the front page? Does it bring up too much reality for everyone to digest at once?
There you go. Further to the point, they're not doing anything, they contracted another firm to take care of the requirement.
This is just the usual "OMFG LOLOLOLOL M$ IS TEH SUX" infantile bullshit posted to drive up ad impressions for OSDN. With a year-old "article", no less.
The GP post pretty much nailed it. It doesn't get any more pathetic than this.
Is this supposed to be news? Funny? Interesting? Engaging? If I create one and put a picture of Stallman in saint drag humping a penguin will Slashdot publish it for me?
part of the Administration that negotiated and signed on to the Kyoto Protocol?
The Clinton administration did not ratify the Kyoto protocol. It never intended to. Gore signed it "symbolically", whatever the heck that means, but they never actually submitted the protocol to the Senate. More here. Gore might have been a big fan of Kyoto, but his administration never was.
Seems to me you've got three outright lies, and one complete irrelevancy
Seems to me you've got one piece of non-truth there.
With a driver, yes. With a custom media handler, yes. With a resident app, yes. There's even a whole cottage industry of little apps out there that will do that for you given you part with $19.99 or whatever. But out of the box XP does NOT support USB autorun. I'm not asserting that it is impossible to create an Autorun-like effect from a USB drive, just that it is not something that's part of Windows' default behavior.
How hard is it to understand that?
In this case I doubt a bunch of computers in a credit union had something like that already running, though I suppose it's possible.
If the partition on the USB drive is marked as bootable then you will get a dialog asking you what you want to do with the contents of the drive when you plug it in.
You might have a media handler (in XP) defined for that particular USB port and device ID.
You might have a resident application that does what I described earlier. For example, I think I remember Creative shipping something like that with the older Muvos.
But in plain vanilla XP this won't work. Much less in W2K, which does not have a concept of "media handlers".
They didn't, because it's not possible. No version of Windows supports Autorun from anything other than a CD. The only way to 'hack' a sort-of-Autorun that supports USB (or any other mass storage mounted media) is to write an application that monitors for the arrival of a device and then actually executes whatever autorun.inf points to. Of course that means you need prior access to the machine.
So they must have had *some* sort of executable in there. User intervention is a requirement for this type attack to succeed. But given the ease with which people tend to get infected from zipped and password-protected email attachments it doesn't surprise me one bit that they ran an application in a USB thumb drive.
The vast majority of Windows machines that are infected with something or other are in that state because of the user.
Yeah, we've never seen a/.'ed website spewing PHP/MySQL errors. Evar. Because we all know that running LAMP will automagically upgrade your bandwidth to a T3. Free!
If you speak or understand any of the Romance languages evolved from vulgar latin (such as Spanish or Italian) you already know this. Because in those languages the word for "pound" is also "libra", so it doesn't take much to relate the "lb" contraction to it.
So I'd guess about 1/4th of the planet's population already knew this.
But OK, we'll say Slashdot is "educational". Just this once!
Is that because nobody has bothered to write "BonziBuddy" for OS X, or is it because OS X automatically increases your IQ by 50 points upon installation?
Because I'm wondering how Apple ("the little company that makes iPods") is going to prevent people from entering their root password when they're not supposed to. I guess they'll just have to be educated. And I guess that will be about as successful as educating Windows users.
Of course there is no widespread mal/spy/crapware attack on the OS X platform so it will be a while before your theory can be [dis]proved. Is there going to be a far lower "infection" (as if downloading and running something was accidental) rate? Sure. Is it going to be zero? Nope.
he considered this small group important enough to be worth more of his time than the 14,000 people who went to JavaOne
This is childish. What is the point of such a comment? How a fully-developed adult can think this - let alone put it in print - just boggles my mind. Very unprofessional.
I'm not sure why anyone would listen to someone with a troll name like "RzUpAnmsCwrds"
Maybe for the same reason someone would "listen" to someone with a name like "twitter"? What the hell does that have to do with anything?
Don't confuse nvidia and ati work with M$'s crappy GUI and don't tell me they worked well until very recently
I don't know what the hell "crappy GUI" means, but it has worked well so far. Are you implying that it does not? Why, because it doesn't have "20 virtual screens"? That's ridiculous.
Microsoft is pretending this is something new and that they are responsible
I don't know what the hell you're talking about, nVidia and ATI and S3 and Diamond and SBi and anyone else that built or builds video cards have been happily doing so for 16 years. What exactly is Microsoft "pretending"? They provide the platform and others write the software for it.
And it called their crappy file finder.
This paragraph makes no sense whatsoever. Even if it's "crappy" it did exist years before KDE in any case, and the version of KDE I'm running (from Kubuntu) sure as hell doesn't show that particular behavior. And what if it doesn't? I don't care. No one cares. This is a strawman at best.
has only cared about NetBIOS.
There you go with your bullshit FUD again. Explorer does not support SFTP, but Microsoft moved to TCP/IP years ago. They support NetBIOS because they have to, but it's no longer even a default. What the hell?
Do you realize how pathetic that is?
What is pathetic are your bullshit claims of running Linux on discarded toasters and office suites using 20K of disk space. What is the point you are trying to make? Who the hell cares if Office 2034 takes up 3TB of space? If you need it, you'll have the disk space, or not. And in any case, Office 2003 installs into less than 500MB if you trim down what you don't need. Office 12 is not going to be any worse. What's it to you? By your own words you run 5 year old PII laptops with 64MB of RAM, don't you? Is Microsoft forcing you to install Vista on that? Who the hell cares? What, did you load the latest KDE with all the eye candy right into your crappy laptop? And did it run? So if you have Vista you'll turn off the eye candy. Big deal.
You are absolutely the worst slashbot zealot I have ever seen, and I've seen plenty. The other AC put it very well: you gain nothing by spreading FUD about Microsoft. Nothing. Are you in fear that something like Vista or Office 12 will eclipse free software? Fine, then get to work. Don't compensate by posting these ridiculous rants. You should be modded down to obvlivion as the troll you are. All one has to do is look at your sad posting history. Nothing but "M$" and "Windoze" and hysterical bullshit FUD rants. Grow the hell up.
Cash flow or not, Microsoft is not the market leader here, not by a longshot. This theory of yours may be correct, but that does not make Microsoft any different from Oracle or Yahoo, for that matter, and at no point does it involve "monopoly power". You have to be a monopoly in a given market to begin with, and that's not the case.
Considering how utterly buggy NS always was after 2.0 I find it hard to believe that it was the lack of API information (the vast majority of which was already publicly available a year before W95 shipped) that caused Netscape's fall. IE3 did not ship with Windows 95 in any case, and even if it had it was so useless that I doubt anyone would have dumped NS2 for it. And even if someone actually had, two months is hardly a huge headstart. Millions of people were still downloading and installing NS2 right up to the IE4 release.
May I recommend dropping Groklaw as your source of dogma? Their virulent anti-Microsoft views generally are not reflective of reality.
I stand by my original assertion. Microsoft might have done X and Y to them, but they were already dead by then. Nitpicking API availablity or release dates is pointless. They could have shipped a working browser if they knew how to.
Netscape looked like it would make a ton of money.
That is of course assuming Netscape would have been able to ship a stable, working usable product. By the time NS4 was pushed, nay dragged, out of the door Netscape as an organization had lost the ability to ship software because they had lost their focus. They couldn't figure out whether they were a portal company or a browser producer or a groupware concern. And they didn't have the leadership to manage all three roles at once (unlike, say Google).
The antitrust trial was an absolute life saver for Andreseen & Co. Instead of the world realizing that they had gone into the Suck Zone for good, they got to whine about how Microsoft had stolen their lunch money.
Of course Microsoft was out to steal their lunch money. It's just that they didn't really need much help. If NS would have been an actually valuable browser platform then a lot of people would have continued to buy and download it, regardless of whether or not IE was bundled with the OS. People downloaded and used Winamp and lots of other media players for a long time even though Windows shipped with a media player of its own. They still do that.
Java might be another issue, but I've never bought into the "IE killed Netscape" meme. Netscape killed itself. The internet is the great equalizer. If you build it, they will come. Netscape simply didn't build it well enough.
I'd like to see your claim that it's illegal of them to force you to use a computer stand in a court of law. First of all, the application must be designed so that it requires an IQ of 33 to operate (after all, you're applying for a shelf stocking job, right?). Second, you fscking obviously know how to use a computer, since you have a GMail address and submitted your whine to Slashdork. Third, if the machine is not working (and it's not disabled, as you said it can't get past page two) then that's tough cookies for Kroger, since neither you nor anyone else is gaining employment there at the moment. Correct?
Unless you believe you are being discriminated against based on some other factor, like the color of your skin or the fact that you have tatoos over 95% of your body or happen to weigh 400 pounds. In that case (well, in the first one at least) you may have a case. But then if that is indeed the problem you should have specified it to begin with instead of doing the "I'm being opressed because I have to use a mouse" routine.
In any event, believe it or not the effin' job market is pretty darn good right now, so if you have some sort of technical skills (and again, you identified the box as a "Genesis terminal" and seem to be posting to Slashdork so I assume that's the case) I'd suggest you look for something more along those lines.
I sincerely hope that you and likes of you [...] Expression, communication and change are now emerging from the masses.
That's very impressive. It sounds like something I'd hear in a boardroom meeting, along with "cross synergy", "net proposition" and "going forward". However, it does not detract from the fact that this company has apparently implemented the electronic version of the suggestion box.
If you think you "and the likes of you" have found the missing link in management, you need to look around. There are lots of ways to run a company successfully, and they don't necessarily involve passing notes about how much the CEO sucks rocks. The bottom line is that eventually this will degenerate. It's inevitable that it will. It's simple human nature. And it's not a sound recipe for long-term sustained operations in any company that has more than 100 employees.
When you grow up and go work for a multinational with 25,000 employees at eight sites in three continents, we'll talk about "expression and communication".
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So this is not an advantage of Perl itself, it's the result of having people who know what they're doing. Your point can be made about any project using any technology out there (which I suppose was your point =))
Not even as one of those little links in-between the stories? Isn't this important? If this was the latest "OMFG M$ IS TEH SUXX LOLOLOL" article would it be relegated to the section without exposure to the front page? Does it bring up too much reality for everyone to digest at once?
What a sad joke.
This is just the usual "OMFG LOLOLOLOL M$ IS TEH SUX" infantile bullshit posted to drive up ad impressions for OSDN. With a year-old "article", no less.
The GP post pretty much nailed it. It doesn't get any more pathetic than this.
Is this supposed to be news? Funny? Interesting? Engaging? If I create one and put a picture of Stallman in saint drag humping a penguin will Slashdot publish it for me?
You're pretty much down to scraping the bottom of the barrel, aren't you?
Never had a real job in your life, eh?
Because you pretty much ran out of arguments back there. Ad hominems are so much easier, arent' they?
The Clinton administration did not ratify the Kyoto protocol. It never intended to. Gore signed it "symbolically", whatever the heck that means, but they never actually submitted the protocol to the Senate. More here. Gore might have been a big fan of Kyoto, but his administration never was.
Seems to me you've got three outright lies, and one complete irrelevancy
Seems to me you've got one piece of non-truth there.
Sweet father of mercy, what the hell is wrong with you people? That is NOT "autorun", period!
With a driver, yes. With a custom media handler, yes. With a resident app, yes. There's even a whole cottage industry of little apps out there that will do that for you given you part with $19.99 or whatever. But out of the box XP does NOT support USB autorun. I'm not asserting that it is impossible to create an Autorun-like effect from a USB drive, just that it is not something that's part of Windows' default behavior.
How hard is it to understand that?
In this case I doubt a bunch of computers in a credit union had something like that already running, though I suppose it's possible.
But in plain vanilla XP this won't work. Much less in W2K, which does not have a concept of "media handlers".
Can I get some??
No, looks like you're already OD'ed on it.
So they must have had *some* sort of executable in there. User intervention is a requirement for this type attack to succeed. But given the ease with which people tend to get infected from zipped and password-protected email attachments it doesn't surprise me one bit that they ran an application in a USB thumb drive.
The vast majority of Windows machines that are infected with something or other are in that state because of the user.
Yeah, we've never seen a /.'ed website spewing PHP/MySQL errors. Evar. Because we all know that running LAMP will automagically upgrade your bandwidth to a T3. Free!
So I'd guess about 1/4th of the planet's population already knew this.
But OK, we'll say Slashdot is "educational". Just this once!
Because I'm wondering how Apple ("the little company that makes iPods") is going to prevent people from entering their root password when they're not supposed to. I guess they'll just have to be educated. And I guess that will be about as successful as educating Windows users.
Of course there is no widespread mal/spy/crapware attack on the OS X platform so it will be a while before your theory can be [dis]proved. Is there going to be a far lower "infection" (as if downloading and running something was accidental) rate? Sure. Is it going to be zero? Nope.
This is childish. What is the point of such a comment? How a fully-developed adult can think this - let alone put it in print - just boggles my mind. Very unprofessional.
I'm not sure why anyone would listen to someone with a troll name like "RzUpAnmsCwrds"
Maybe for the same reason someone would "listen" to someone with a name like "twitter"? What the hell does that have to do with anything?
Don't confuse nvidia and ati work with M$'s crappy GUI and don't tell me they worked well until very recently
I don't know what the hell "crappy GUI" means, but it has worked well so far. Are you implying that it does not? Why, because it doesn't have "20 virtual screens"? That's ridiculous.
Microsoft is pretending this is something new and that they are responsible
I don't know what the hell you're talking about, nVidia and ATI and S3 and Diamond and SBi and anyone else that built or builds video cards have been happily doing so for 16 years. What exactly is Microsoft "pretending"? They provide the platform and others write the software for it.
And it called their crappy file finder.
This paragraph makes no sense whatsoever. Even if it's "crappy" it did exist years before KDE in any case, and the version of KDE I'm running (from Kubuntu) sure as hell doesn't show that particular behavior. And what if it doesn't? I don't care. No one cares. This is a strawman at best.
has only cared about NetBIOS.
There you go with your bullshit FUD again. Explorer does not support SFTP, but Microsoft moved to TCP/IP years ago. They support NetBIOS because they have to, but it's no longer even a default. What the hell?
Do you realize how pathetic that is?
What is pathetic are your bullshit claims of running Linux on discarded toasters and office suites using 20K of disk space. What is the point you are trying to make? Who the hell cares if Office 2034 takes up 3TB of space? If you need it, you'll have the disk space, or not. And in any case, Office 2003 installs into less than 500MB if you trim down what you don't need. Office 12 is not going to be any worse. What's it to you? By your own words you run 5 year old PII laptops with 64MB of RAM, don't you? Is Microsoft forcing you to install Vista on that? Who the hell cares? What, did you load the latest KDE with all the eye candy right into your crappy laptop? And did it run? So if you have Vista you'll turn off the eye candy. Big deal.
You are absolutely the worst slashbot zealot I have ever seen, and I've seen plenty. The other AC put it very well: you gain nothing by spreading FUD about Microsoft. Nothing. Are you in fear that something like Vista or Office 12 will eclipse free software? Fine, then get to work. Don't compensate by posting these ridiculous rants. You should be modded down to obvlivion as the troll you are. All one has to do is look at your sad posting history. Nothing but "M$" and "Windoze" and hysterical bullshit FUD rants. Grow the hell up.
Actually I thought it was quite the contrary, it's REALLY BIG fonts, to the point of looking almost infantile.
Cash flow or not, Microsoft is not the market leader here, not by a longshot. This theory of yours may be correct, but that does not make Microsoft any different from Oracle or Yahoo, for that matter, and at no point does it involve "monopoly power". You have to be a monopoly in a given market to begin with, and that's not the case.
Really? I'm curious as to why you think this exercises the "monopoly power". In what way, exactly?
May I recommend dropping Groklaw as your source of dogma? Their virulent anti-Microsoft views generally are not reflective of reality.
I stand by my original assertion. Microsoft might have done X and Y to them, but they were already dead by then. Nitpicking API availablity or release dates is pointless. They could have shipped a working browser if they knew how to.
That is of course assuming Netscape would have been able to ship a stable, working usable product. By the time NS4 was pushed, nay dragged, out of the door Netscape as an organization had lost the ability to ship software because they had lost their focus. They couldn't figure out whether they were a portal company or a browser producer or a groupware concern. And they didn't have the leadership to manage all three roles at once (unlike, say Google).
The antitrust trial was an absolute life saver for Andreseen & Co. Instead of the world realizing that they had gone into the Suck Zone for good, they got to whine about how Microsoft had stolen their lunch money.
Of course Microsoft was out to steal their lunch money. It's just that they didn't really need much help. If NS would have been an actually valuable browser platform then a lot of people would have continued to buy and download it, regardless of whether or not IE was bundled with the OS. People downloaded and used Winamp and lots of other media players for a long time even though Windows shipped with a media player of its own. They still do that.
Java might be another issue, but I've never bought into the "IE killed Netscape" meme. Netscape killed itself. The internet is the great equalizer. If you build it, they will come. Netscape simply didn't build it well enough.
Unless you believe you are being discriminated against based on some other factor, like the color of your skin or the fact that you have tatoos over 95% of your body or happen to weigh 400 pounds. In that case (well, in the first one at least) you may have a case. But then if that is indeed the problem you should have specified it to begin with instead of doing the "I'm being opressed because I have to use a mouse" routine.
In any event, believe it or not the effin' job market is pretty darn good right now, so if you have some sort of technical skills (and again, you identified the box as a "Genesis terminal" and seem to be posting to Slashdork so I assume that's the case) I'd suggest you look for something more along those lines.
That's very impressive. It sounds like something I'd hear in a boardroom meeting, along with "cross synergy", "net proposition" and "going forward". However, it does not detract from the fact that this company has apparently implemented the electronic version of the suggestion box.
If you think you "and the likes of you" have found the missing link in management, you need to look around. There are lots of ways to run a company successfully, and they don't necessarily involve passing notes about how much the CEO sucks rocks. The bottom line is that eventually this will degenerate. It's inevitable that it will. It's simple human nature. And it's not a sound recipe for long-term sustained operations in any company that has more than 100 employees.
When you grow up and go work for a multinational with 25,000 employees at eight sites in three continents, we'll talk about "expression and communication".