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Notebook with Huge 20 Inch Screen Reviewed
An anonymous reader writes "Trusted reviews has a look at the Acer Aspire 9800. This massive machine has a 20.1" screen, two 120GB hard drives in a RAID 0 array, super-multi DVD burner, analogue and digital TV tuners and an Intel Core Duo dual core CPU. And at over 17lb you can even use it for weight training!"
It almost gets to the windows loading screen before the battery dies.
It may have a 20.1" screen, but it's a little light on the pixel density side of things.
"So let's start with that huge screen. With a widescreen aspect ratio, you're getting a native resolution of 1,680 x 1,050, which to be honest is pretty low considering the physical size. Considering that many 17in notebook screens have a resolution of 1,920 x 1,200, I can't help but find the resolution on this 20.1in display somewhat disappointing. Closer inspection gives some clue as to why the resolution is limited - quite simply, Acer has bolted one of its desktop monitors onto a notebook. Whereas most notebook screens and consequently lids are getting slimmer and slimmer, the lid on the Aspire 9800 is 30mm thick - it's therefore a safe bet that it's exactly the same panel that Acer sells in it's 20.1in desktop monitors."
Personally I have an older Dell C800 (I or something like that) with a 15" 1600x1200 screen. I value pixels more than size, so for me it's great.
1680x1050 is horrible resolution for 20" of screen space, but I guess if you value size more than pixels, then this is the laptop for you. I would guess that for some users, particularly gamers, raw pixel resolution may not be your highest priority. There's also the "mine's bigger than yours" aspect.
Frankly, I'm surprised it took this long for a company to bolt a 20" desktop screen onto a laptop base.
Oh yeah...don't forget the Holy 17 Pounds Batman! I'd be willing to bet that doesn't count the power brick. Does it come with wheels and a pull handle?
Anyway, if I had the cash burning a hole in my pocket, I'd pass this one by.
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And at over 17lb you can even use it for weight training
;-)
Thats 7.7kgs for those of us not still using British imperial measurements
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...but can I use it as cell phone?
And a battery capacity to power the unit for 4.5 seco...
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Cause those are really funny.
"but still has enough battery life to give you a full days work on the move."
What does it come with? a power plant attached?
...and can it run linux?
..A whopping battery life of one half of ten minutes!!
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This is such a slapdash attempt at a laptop it's pointless. There's a one-inch margin around the edge of the keyboard, yet the keyboard itself doesn't even have full-sized cursor keys. You've got a full-sized monitor, why not a full-sized keyboard? Obviously it's meant to be lugged around as a gaming machine for LAN parties and the like, but if you're going all-out, why not actually make the thing useable?
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I got a beautiful x286 laptop with a couple megs ram and a 10MB drive that weighs that much :) Anyone interested?
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In europe this will be marketed as a workstation replacement and in USA it'll be marketed as compact PDA (just the size of your back pocket).
New meme: People who buy SUVs and Aspire9800s are just trying to compensate for their little winkies.
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Personally, I'd find RAID 1 a better choice. Whack it through the dm-crypt layer, plonk XFS on top, and it'd be good to go.
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This is what is referred to in German as Eierlegende Wollmilchsau. This essentially means "egg laying sow." The reason I say this is because it is a laptop trying to be a workstation. This would be better in Apple II C form. I personally don't like anything larger than my 12" iBook (which runs Linux well). I wouldn't want anything larger than my 14" Compaq Evo laptop. There are two types of people that will buy this from Acer: (1) those that like high tech lifting weights (2) those who won't remove their laptop from their desk.
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I'd at the very least expect some recesses on the top of the lid for a plate, cup and come cutlery. Disconnect the fans, it could even keep my dinner warm!
At least let me get some tissues before describing the box! And I'm at work, son of a #@$#$%#$
I got a chassis of HP BL25ps in the basement... heck, why not put a flat-panel on it and lug it around. Weighs the same and has 10x the power. This product will likely miss the market...
The average American lap is increasing is no reason for laptops to follow suit.
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I was thinking of getting a lapdesktop for college...
What I've found with Acer in general is that they throw a lot of quantity (in terms fancy features) with not a lot of quality. Fragile frames, dying screens, and various other problems have been a plague to Acer machines for years. Moreover, I've seen the same type of power issues occur in their notebooks from my old 233MMX (T310 I think) notebook all the way to the last Acer machines we bought (about a year ago).
Having a notebook with features is great, but not when you can't use the thing or have to keep sending it in for repair due to poor design. I'm not sure that this laptop would be any more or less reliable than previous models, but I'd be careful that all those great "features" don't cause one to overlook the issues of reliability.
Acer engineers have decided to expand on the idea of portable performance: It will now offer a desktop case with holds to attach your monitor, keyboard, and a small UPS for carrying ease.
... can it run windows vista?
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And at over 17lb you can even use it for weight training!**
** Applies only to those reading this Slashdot article
3. Those who work at a desk at client sites, but are required by company policy to take their machines home at night.
I'd LOVE a monitor that size-- but I'm stuck with a puny laptop screen as long as I'm working outside our main office.
For some reason after reading the blurb on here I am reminded of the dish tv commercial with the guy standing next to the huge speakers and of course the old lady eating the 5 pound steak with the song in the background singing "Big and huge and huge and big!"
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Designers of 17" laptops might look at that beast and finally realise that there has been room for a numeric keypad all along...
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My employer bought a Dell D810 for me to use. This thing is so far from being portable it's not even funny. It's huge, heavy, a little flimsy, etc. But it's fast, has a big screen, lots of pixels, and does everything I need (except run OS X). However, when I travel, I still bring my 12" PBG4.
The once-popular Osborne I was 23 pounds (over 10 kg to most of the world)
Most people own laptops because they can go places with them, which for the most part means fitting them in a backpack or other bag. (weight is less of an issue, students carry loads of textbooks arround all the time on their backs, so what is a few more pounds?) However with a 20 inch screen I have problems imagining the kind of bag it would fit.
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My first computer was one of the original Compaq "portable computers". If I remember correctly, it weighed about 34 lbs. That was before the day of laptops. I probably moved it more than my current laptops. I lugged it between college and home - a trip that included commuter rail, subway, shuttle bus, airplane, express bus, another commuter train, and several long walks -- along with a clothing bag and numerous books.
Hmm.... Maybe I was nuts.
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Yeah, that must be using the frosty power plant keep the CPU and all those HDDs cool at the same time. er... yeah...
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It is so big so in that way it is no more notebook.)))
It is not useful. I cant understarnd why customer will be needing RAID controler!, and 240 gigabytes space for data.
When I first saw the picture, I thought to myself, "Wow! There's enough extra space to put in a numeric keypad!"
Then I realized there already was one!
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People that get that thing have to be compensating for something.
Is that like better than the uber-max DVD burner? Now I know why the post was anonymous.
ALso, what is it with R&D these days? It's like they make em work straight for a month or so, then they have an office party where they get the managers drunk:
Employee A: Lets make a 20 inch Laptop with RAID 0. And lasers.
Manager: Yeah dude that would be amaaaazing. Can I lick your balls?
.. luggable. Remember the Osborne?
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It's a portable server
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I'll wait for someone to bolt one of Apple's 30-inch Cinema HD Displays to a "laptop".
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In north america, its considered mobile if it is smaller than the largest storage space of an SUV.
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I ALMOST like this laptop (even though it's an Acer). ALMOST. And just because I want a bigger laptop.
But I agree with others - THERE'S PLENTY OF SPACE FOR A FULL-SIZE KEYBOARD ON THERE, YOU NICKELBAGS. Go flush to the edge and get rid of the damn touch-pad. The nerds that would really use a good powerful laptop like that HATE TOUCH PADS - can't count how many times I've seen developers making a scrunched up face jamming their thumb on the pad just trying to minimize a damn window, let alone done it myself. (Spare me a lecture about hotkeys please.) So much usable space there, wasted to make room for the touch pad.
Christ on a crutch, it pisses me off. I could easily pack a mouse or even a slim Wacom tablet with the thing and be very happy with the 20" screen.
It's not the size that matters! It's the battery life..
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so how long will it before there are lawsuits against laptop manufactors because someone hurts their back lifting a laptop?
With something that big, you'd think it would come with a handle, and maybe some headlights and deer whistles. The sidewalks and campuses of the world are no longer safe.
Imagine watching porn on that while on the move!
Thats the only logical reason to use one of those.
Quoting from the article:
Size does matter
Due to the horrible resolution, if you viewed DVD movies close-up on this laptop, then you would see the square-ish outline of each pixel. However, this laptop would make a great portable, large-screen television. Just place it about 15 feet away from your sofa in the living room and crank up the brightness of the LCD panel. At 15 feet, your eyes would blur the outline of each pixel and would form a smooth contour of each object in the scene.
Incidentally, this portable television would be excellent for viewing pornography when your wife has taken the kids to soccer practice on Saturday. About 5 minutes before she returns, you quickly delete the porn mpeg file, close the lid of the laptop, and shove it into the closet. No one would be the wiser.
It's so big, they even put a SUBWOOFER in it! Better be careful with this on your lap (if your lap can support its weight), not only might it cause infertility due to heat, but it will be booming and bouncing all over your lap as well.
Intel Core Duo dual core CPU
You forgot to mention it's from Intel. Again.
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Way too few pixels. Laptop I'm typing this on has 1620 x 1200. Maybe the Acer is good for people who don't have 20/10 vision like I have.
Still, I was hoping for some monster resolution like 2560x1600. I'm not interested.
I know some people will buy this because there is always someone who will love even the stupidest of all products.
What I don't get is, if laptop stands for portability, then why is it not really portable? And who would want to show it off anyway? I bet people would only laugh. For heaven's sake, this thing even has a numpad and an LPT port.. Not that it's necessarily a bad thing but..
a) The majority is looking for a laptop with decent hardware yet portable (read: 15" or less).
b) A smaller part wants really tiny laptops with minimal screens that basically fit in large pockets.
c) Another small part of the crowd demands super performance and usually 17". If you need performance beyond that, get a Shuttle computer or something.
As seen above, our 20.1" laptop does not fit in. Last but not least, a laptop is purchased because.. a) It is portable and runs on batteries, meaning that you can use it everywhere.
b) It is excellent for educational purposes due to its portability.
c) It is great for business purposes due to its portability.
d) It works great as a multimedia station and a node between a network of computers.
Okay, a), so the Acer can be used anywhere, but it's too heavy and too awkward. And b), it is nowhere to be found in schools. You'd probably block the view for everyone behind you. And c), yes, I can imagine the usefulness of this computer for some people but I really doubt that the advantages are that great since the resolution is too small for CAD and such. And finally, d), a multimedia station should be small enough to carry around and small enough to hide in case you want it to serve partially as a music/video station.
Anyway, the day I see someone sitting with this laptop in economy class on a Boeing/Airbus will be the day that I laugh so hard that I pee my pants down.
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Surely this should be the Acer Perspire 9800 instead of Aspire. After all, perspire is what you'll do after lugging this around for a while on a warm day.
If you're essentially going to make a desktop replacement like this, at least equip it with a desktop type full stroke keyboard with cursor keys so it's not a machine with all the drawbacks of a laptop and all the drawbacks of a desktop. In the late 1980s, even the cheapo PC maker Amstrad made a portable with a 102-key full stroke keyboard rather than a compromised laptop keyboard. The Amstrad was probably about the same width as this thing. The photo shows lots of wasted space on the edges of the keyboard which could have been better used to provide a full sized keyboard.
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Funny that you're the only poster who thought of mentioning the heat factor -- it was the first thing that came to my mind when I read this:
> This massive machine has a 20.1" screen, two 120GB hard drives in a RAID 0 array, super-multi DVD burner, analogue and digital TV tuners and an Intel Core Duo dual core CPU.
I mean, Jesus Fucking H Christ!! How many BTUs does all that give off? Not to mention that actual "laptop" users are complaining their machines are practically cooking their thighs; how the hell is anyone going to be able to cope with this 17lb. hi-tech heat generator?
Hmmm.... maybe that could be used by Acer for an ultra-macho-extreme-sports themed ad campaign:
"Are You Tough Enough For It? Acer's Aspire 9800 -- THE LAPTOP FROM HELL!"
"All hands, BRACE FOR IMPACT!"
> Thats 7.7kgs for those of us not still using British imperial measurements ;-)
:-) I guess the submitter translated it to Imperial units for fun or something.
Not quite--it's 7.8 kg, actually, if you read TFA
I've got one of these sitting in my basement.
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26 pounds. Feels twice that heavy if you move it more than a few dozen feet. It's like a tank. The metal case adds some weight over the Osborne's plastic
A few years later they added a hard drive and brought the weight up to 31 pounds.
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I'm holding out for Acer's 40" laptop with 5 HDDs and 3 Multi-Super-Duper Drives, 2 full size keyboards w/number pads, TV-Tuner w/ built-in staelittle reciever, 3.5" & 5.25" floppy drives and a chached copy of the entire internet on an internal Flash Drive. Seriously, Acer's notebook construction is so poor that I guess they need to make waves by making larger and more obscene laptops.
Here is the review of Dell's 20" laptop if you hungering for a review from a site that won't be easily slashdotted. With that out of the way, I notice a lot of 20" inch springing up all over the place. Is there really a demand for these behemoths? I know some people might enjoy the screen real estate for some graphical as well spreadsheet applications but 17 to 20 lb notebook? It gets any bigger and they won't let you take it on the plane. Is there someone who will shell out 2000 extra for this just for the ability to clear their desk once in a while? Buying a bigger desk is expensive these days. Also, are lan parties that popular? Oh Lord, I must be so geeky that geeks don't want to invite me to their parties! Though I have been to few parties, we generally bring beers not computers. Where is the market?
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But c'mon. It weighs as much as 6 of my current laptops. Or as much as my current laptop and a 23" cinema display....
I could add a 1TB firewire hard drive and not go too much over the weight limit. But I'd have to duct tape it all together to make it as "portable".
Too bad port replicators are things of the past. I have one for my laptop and it means when I want to be mobile I've got something that weighs 2.75 pounds, less than an inch thick and runs for 5+ hours on a charge. When I'm not mobile I dock it to a 500GB raid, full size keyboard and 23" display. Works brilliantly for what I do. I'm sure there's a purpose for this thing, but it seems like a very small niche product.
Besides when people look at my laptop and say "It's so small" I get to respond "Yeah, I'm not compensating for anything." and soak up the laughter of my sharp jest.
I posted the original comment, but I have to admit your link made me laugh. Nice one.
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... with the hard drive empty. Fill all of those 120 gigabytes and it weighs a full 20 lbs.
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What's that in stone? And can we have a screen measurement in hands, please?
This makes me very, very sad.
Shee-yit. Now Tom's got a Hummer too. Well, I guess I could buy that big computer from the Internet. It even sits in my lap. That's good for th' in-you-wen-dough.
Restraint? You pussy.
Note that the digital tuner that's included is for DVB, not American ATSC. I wish this had been specified.
The top of the line XPS laptop has a 20.1 inch screen too, and unlike the Acer they didnt bolt on one of their other products as a screen. http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetail s.aspx/xpsnb_m2010?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
Personally, this is my kinda thing. The screen may be a little obsessivly large, and I agree it needs a full sized keyboard, but it has all the features a geek could dream of (except maybe turning into a woman to cheer you up when it crashes).
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I currently use a 17" widescreen notebook/portable-computer/whatever, and its great because it does all the things a desktop does but its portable. I dont own a desktop (well one with all the parts left, and I know alot of people would do the same if they had one of these hefty things.
If I hadnt spent so much on my notebook 6 months ago I'd consider this.
P.S. I reccon i could do with the weight training anywa
This is much too large and heavy to be considered anything remotely portable. It's not. It's a desktop replacement. Considering how much it's got to cost, it had better have really damn fast response time on the LCD (16ms or better) and not have an overly-constrained CPU-to-memory bus. And the graphics chip had better be connected via something faster than PCI (like it apparently is in my HP notebook).
If not, this thing is only worthwhile if all you're trying to do is save desk space. Otherwise, you're better off with a cheap Dell.
I don't know what experience these people asking for higher resolutions are used to - I'm guessing they use CRT monitors. 1680 x 1050 is pretty standard for 20" widescreen flat panels. It isn't "light on the pixels" as some of them have been saying. Frankly, I don't know why you'd want to go for a higher resolution on a 20" - your fonts would be tiny at the "normal" settings.
Some people just want a reason to bitch and moan about everything.
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This a notebook that was designed specifically for one task. That task is to be a high performance luxury desktop notebook replacement. The choice to use 2 harddrives in performance mode (obvious power drainer) should further cement what market they were targetting with it. Sure there will be some people who try to use this as a mobile notebook, just like there are people who will drive a hummer cross country.
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Is this a dupe of this article? I've been running this 6.8GHz laptop for about 9 months now and it's great! The quantum-optical technology means that I can finish playing Kings Quest III before I even start!
However, I don't have a super-multi DVD burner. I wonder if that'll let me burn pr0n faster than I can download it on my super-multi cablemodem!
Wow, technology is great! Even when it's bullshit.
And at over 17lb you can even use it for weight training!
You're speaking in the wrong venue about weight training.
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This must be one of those newfangled Origa--oh, uh...
This is just really stupid! why do you buy a laptop? so its lightweight & mobile! these designs are totally going nowhere and misleading people! buy a 20" screen laptop which weighs nearly a common desktop?! buy a high-end one and use it for what? WORD? EXCEL? Solitaire? complete waste of money If you going to buy something, ask yourself what is it for FIRST.
It simply should not be called a notebook. I didn't say a laptop because Acer named it a notebook. I agree with nblender : "I want to flip the lid down and go to the library or the cabin or wherever.", moreover, if you think of all the devices it can replace, you will see that it is not that bulky. This naming story is similar to Apple's when they had to avoid the word 'laptop' in their laptop's users guide just because it was too hot to put on your lap (skin burn and infertility matters). Yeah, and this 7.7 Kg Aspire 9800 is just too heavy for that. On the other hand, the screen resolution is very dissapointing, why would I want a huge screen just for its size?
Have a smaller one... and get an external bigger screen! ... but they cost a fortune. Hey, I'm getting less here!!!
I want a nice ultraportable one (Lifebook P1510 P-M 1.2GHz 512MB 60GB 8.9 XP Tablet)
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I haven't seen an LG laptop before. Good to know.
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Ok ok ok... It's a laptop with a HUGE screen, we got that. But why on earth does it have to be this ugly? It's got at least 5 shades of gray on various different panels just on the keyboard panel. It looks like it was put together from 15 other smaller laptops.
I think acer should definately start "borrowing" some ideas from Apple. Visually appalling...
For a laptop that vast I would have expected at least one MXM 7800 GTX card in there, or possibly two in SLI. A 7600 would certainly be great for recent games, but in a machine that big I would have expected better.
Personally I think the best laptop out there at the moment from a size/performance ratio is the Sony VAIO SZ. Dual core CPU, 1GB RAM, 120GB HD and a Geforce 7400 all in a very pretty thin and light case. It would certainly be my first choice if I had the cash...
and its all fine and dandy when sold by Apple.
This isn't a bash of Apple but perhaps the goal wasn't so much to make the best laptop but something similar in usage to an iMac, just a tad bit more portable and capable? Honestly calling anything with a screen over 15" a laptop seems bizarre to me. Desktop Replacement needs a catchy term to make it more palatable.
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You wantted the lug around game machine as a portable, you got it... but sorry its not with an Acer... Its a Dell. Yuppers thats rite... the full size keyboard, 20.1 inch monitor and surround sound, and a nice little handle to boot.. its its own case! Check it out! http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetail s.aspx/xpsnb_m2010?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
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How can someone review a laptop and not even mention the battery life. Maybe I skimmed it too fast, but if there's no battery life tests then this review is a total waste of my time. I will literally sprint to the store to buy the first 17"+ laptop that can run for 5+ hours on a charge and includes a decent gaming graphics card. Until that day, I will not waste my money on a new laptop. My Dell Inspiron 7500 is still kicking despite the case disintegrating due to heat and age. It still works fine for 99% of what I need a laptop for. The one and only innovation I care about in laptops these days is BATTERY LIFE. When are we going to start seeing manufacturers using all this new battery technology that I've been reading about for years? ATTENTION MANUFACTURERS: If your laptop can't run for 5 hours on a single standard battery charge then you have FAILED to make a decent portable computer.
Wife is always telling me to get a cable organizer for the monitor, mouse, keyboard, network, and tower. This aspire is basically an all-in-one that's slightly portable if you want to move it to the kitchen table. One cable (power). Aesthetically pleasing. I wonder if that's who they're marketing to....(husbands of interior designing wives).
>This is just really stupid! why do you buy a laptop? so its lightweight & mobile!
More important to me is silence. The typical portable machine is much quieter than a dektop even after tweaking it for silence. You can spend a small fortune to quiet down a desktop and still not do better than the average notebook.
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The new Dell XPS M2010 kinda blows this Acer out of the water...
Wow think I could go ahead and use my red rider wagon to lug this bad boy around?
...on my Osborne 1, which I purchased with bar mitzvah money lo those many years ago.
- 5" monochrome screen
- 2 massive 92kB 5.25" floppy drives.
- 64 kB bank-switched memory.
- z80A processor.
It weighed in at 20 lbs!
sheeya.
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At that size and 17 lbs I'd expect a better keyboard.
Aside from the numeric keypad it looks like a standard crappy laptop keyboard. Why not go full size, and give the keys some more travel and feedback? Oh yes, I forgot; cost. I'm sure the primary users of this laptop will probably use it for DVDs and web surfing and hardly use the keyboard, making ergonomics a low priority for Acer.
I'm not against a 20" laptop. Desktop Replacements have thier place-- but a desktop replacement also needs to replace the nice keyboard on my desk as well as the fast computer and large display. This one does not fit the bill as a desktop replacement as far as I am concerned. I guess at 17 lbs you could always tote a nice fullsize external keyboard with you and not really tell the difference.
BTW, Raid 0?? Why not just let the two drives work as seperate drives? Scared the users would be confused by having a "C:" and a "D:" hard drive? Raid 0 == twice the likelyhood of failure.
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I always see gringos mentioning this point, and that's *exactly* why gringo measurements are so stupid!
Let's see, how many yards are there in a mile? How many gallons in a hogshead? If I walk two miles in an hour, how many feet do I walk in a minute? How long will it take to empty a ten gallon tank with a cup?
I have a 5/16" steel rod and I want to drill a hole in a plate where this rod will fit easily but without too much play. Sould I use the 23/64" drill or the 0.4 in. drill? How can I choose if I can't find the calculator?
Those are the simple day to day questions one wants to have a feeling about, a mental image without having to use a calculator!
Now, let's see the equivalent calculations using the International System:
There are a thousand meters in a kilometer. A thousand liters in a ton of water. If I walk six kilometers an hour, then I walk a hundred meters in a minute. A ten liter tank has 40 cupfuls of 250 ml each.
An 8 mm steel rod will just fit into an 8.5 mm hole. Use the 7 mm drill for the 6.5 mm rod.
Most simple day to day calculations in the International System are done immediately in your head, without any conscious effort. Try to convert feet to miles or ounces to gallons without a calculator.
This thing's almost as heavy as the Commodore SX-64, though I suppose its features are a little better.
With that much room, they could split the keyboard down the middle and angle the halves a bit.
.254mm pitch) or better, with a full split keyboard that has 100% of the standard keys and nothing else.
Why does nobody do this? Regular keyboards make me hurt.
It's making more and more sense now, with bigger screens and with the old 4:3 screen shape being abandoned.
I'll take a 21.5 inch (19x10) screen please, 1920x1024 (100 dpi,
and yet they couldn't even put a fullsize keyboard on it.
Honestly, if you look at the pictures, it looks like they actually tried to keep from using all that space. I'm sure that's not the case, and they just wanted to use the components they already have, but would it really be that much more expensive to use a keyboard for grownups?
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I have a Microsoft Natural Pro keyboard here in front of me. It's comfy. I don't want to give it up. Regular keyboards make me hurt, and will probably lead to disability.
The keys total 18.8 inches in width, plus another 0.4 inches of margin around the edge. (chopping off the number pad is OK with me, and helps center things better, but it only saves 3.2 inches)
Front to back, the standard non-multimedia keys total about 6 inches. It'd be a bit more if Microsoft didn't skimp on the function keys. Add another inch for a margin and better function keys, bringing it to 7 inches.
So I need a 19x7 keyboard area. It'd be sick to make the screen any smaller.
Reasonable resolutions are: 1920x720, 2000x800, 1920x768, 2048x768, 1920x640, 2560x864, 2560x900, 2560x960
I might prefer 19x10 though. That's still rather widescreen, being about 2:1 instead of 3:1.
Oh, let the hinge slide sideways too, so I can center the keyboard without losing the arrow keys. Never mind if this adds another pound.
That's a nice way to dance around your failure to use metric time. :-)
Try 7 kilometers per hour.
One of the dangers of metric is that people get used to shifting the decimal point until things look right. You get used to not really thinking about the conversion factors. Suppose you compute something, and the result is about 10x off from what you expect. You might just shift by an extra decimal place to make things look right. Perhaps you left out the gravitational constant (9.8 m/s/s), but you won't notice because the results look so nice. Perhaps the odd result really was correct, and you just mangled it by a factor of 10x to make it look right.
but far from calling it a notebook... frankly, more of a Desktop Replacement Model. I wouldn't want to be lugging this enormous machine around town and hooking it up in Starbucks but it'll be useful for those who wants to work in office and from home (yeah; no life) to be able to tranfer the entire machine rather than copying file all the time.
Strong minds have wills, feeble ones have only wishes.
It's a leg-crusher
a beowulf cluster of these //sorry
I'm all for having a 'desktop that folds' over a miscule little laptop for the way I work, but this screen is just pathetic. The resolution is only 1680 x 1050... my Inspiron 9300 is 17 inches, and gives me 1900 x 1200. I need screen real estate more than I need just sheer size; at that resolution this screen make this the "Readers Digest Large Print Edition" of the laptop world.