No wonder slashdot posts dupes and shit summaries!. It's because it wouldn't matter if they did post good ones!. People don't read past the first line of the article summary, let alone the article!.
> So, all that running Xen would do is to allow you to have an
> install of Linux or *BSD solely to run Wine - which would
> provide no real benefit to running Wine.
Well still you can do it better and get better state separation anyway
but its a tradeoff of one against another. depends what you see as important.
Why does everyone insist on making every boneheaded decision by a government department the fault of george bush himself?.
Wow you must be really putting a lot of stock in his abilities to put his nose in every pie like that, so really what you're doing is saying how intelligent he is. He has to be if he can run everything!
Can someone tell me honestly what's wrong here? Intel are the ones who have control over their product. They get to sell their products and define how much it sells for. Why are governments getting involved?
Obviously if a company is buying more of a competitor's products then they're buying less of yours, so your own are more expensive to them because they are buying in lower quantities. that is simple grade school economics.
Having governments butt their noses in like this only forces lowest commen denominators to win and means someone could come along and sell a piece of cheese as a CPU and anyone who tries to sell a real CPU could get labelled a monopoly.
This is an option for some people but not others. In the late 1980s I used a device with a thumbwheel much the same and man a scroll thumbwheel after 5 minutes is hell on tendons more so than any other mouse I used.
But I can use a normal mouse all day long and not have a problem and have been doing so for years now.
It's still debatable whether or not global warming can even happen with the amount of gas we are putting into the air.
And so how would you expect that to make any difference on mars? You would be have to be sure of the results to start. Until we know we are global warming here I say we hold off and not try experiments over a whole planet.
> I'm surprised to hear that Microsoft's refusal to adopt > international standards in their browser actually thwarts a > potential phishing attack rather than aiding it.
The thing is this is another carry on effect where MS refusal to follow standards only hurts others. Now when a phish attack that can take advantage of this problem appears it will be designed to hit other browsers say firefox on linux or opera or konqueror. So because it only breaks on these browsers it will mean any attacks on them will be tailor made for their kinds of users, which is linux users.
So when a phish attack comes along attacking linux users it might phish for cvs passwords and other open source type things instead of just banking details. I consider this a big risk to some open source projects. I wonder what browser Linus uses??
If MS had followed standards they could not allow phishers to attack just a specific group like this, and phishers would have to act blindly like they are now only looking for generic things that affect most of the population.
Another thing as well, this can't really be counted as a Linux vulnerability, if you look at the source code either in an email message or in the browser, it's clear as day that it's not going to the real paypal.com
I got those numbers wrong. I meant when in the article he says Windows boxes cost up to $230 LESS with dell and 100 to 150 LESS with HP then over 99 computers that is a saving of $14,850 to $22,770.
so twenty two thousand dollars saved by going with linux.
> It takes time and effort to create an install and then mirror it > to a hundred systems. The business pays for that time and > effort. Even if it's an in house tech doing the job, at the very > least his salary for the time spent doing the install should be > factored into the cost.
Well then you can buy 99 Windows PC's for $400 and one Linux PC in the same configuration and mirror the linux PC configuration and put it on all the Windows PCs then. So then you save $99 times $20 or $1980 doing this. And you didn't have to spend on creating an install!. And when in the article he says Windows boxes cost up to $230 LESS with dell and 100 to 150 LESS with HP then over 99 computers that is a saving of $1450 to $2270.
> He's talking about corporate purchases; where the company > buys off the shelf, simply re-buying "their standard > configuration" each time another cubicle needs filling. These > kinds of customers don't build their PC from bits, you fool! > Get a brain before using your keyboard, FFS.
Well sorry you are an irrelevant answer. You corporate buy a few dells in the standard configuration with windows or with linux whichever is cheaper and then put the linux mirror back on it. total time spent like minutes? And you don't have to pay to be locked into MS again! So your benefitting twice.
So either way if windows is cheaper then linux is the same price And if linux is cheaper then windows is more expensive.
This guy is trying to make a fair TCO analysis of Linux Vs. WIndows and part 1 doesn't look good for Linux. Now it is time for slashdotters to say that businesses should Install all their systems from scratch or Buy the Walmart systems.
Well it might not look good to start when you can buy a windows dell for $400 but the same Linux dell costs $420
But DUH you can buy the Windows dell for $400 and install linux FOR FREE ON IT
Even then if you needed to deploy a hundred of them through all a company then you can make one main install of linux and mirror it everywhere.
So Linux actually can never be more expensive than windows even if windows is the 'cheapest' to buy from the store.
Well he ignores one fact here by only comparing buying windows with IBM DELL or HP and finding sometimes machines with windows are cheaper through them than with linux, they are in Microsoft's pocket!
he completely ignores when you can order your computer piece by piece and put it together not only cheaper for the hardware but there's no price fixing with windows included. in fact the price of a computer with no operating system like this is the same as one with linux!
So he purposely misstates any facts and says that windows is cheaper because some pricey manufacturers choose to sell windows for less than linux installed machines. This is silly too because you can just buy the chjeaper windows default install and put linux on it with a burned CD you downloaded for no cost. And then throw away the Windows CD!
One thing should be noted, is, OSX aqua quartz isn't vector based it is still bitmapped, as many people are under the apprehension that it is all vector when it is just good bitmaps.
it is live compositing like postscript on screen but it is not yet vector.
> Also, there are lots of TV shows that are only shown on > premium channels, like stuff from HBO or Showtime, that gets > pirated along with all the other "free" TV.
And since then regardless of being paid television or free to air, it is not being shown near me. So the producers are losing what, nothing at all? Not like I am going to pay for it anyway because that is impossible.
Since they make it impossible for me to pay for it then I do have the right to get it for free, no ifs no buts about it.
> It's fucking illegal, people. Who cares how this illegal piracy > "community" is affected
Well if you think about it you'll see there are many television shows that aren't shown in my country so I want to watch them. Also, many movies shown overseas that are not released in my country immediately
Are you saying I do not have a right to watch these? or follow them with my friends who might get them first? I will have to wait and wait months maybe a year to see them, by the time spoilers are posted everywhere? It should be illegal that they are forcing us to pirate (no I won't say theft!) these videos just to keep up with what other people are able to see. The internet is the great equalizer.
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No wonder slashdot posts dupes and shit summaries!. It's because it wouldn't matter if they did post good ones!. People don't read past the first line of the article summary, let alone the article!.
> So, all that running Xen would do is to allow you to have an > install of Linux or *BSD solely to run Wine - which would > provide no real benefit to running Wine. Well still you can do it better and get better state separation anyway but its a tradeoff of one against another. depends what you see as important.
> How exactly does Linux in a VM run Wine better than Linux
> not in a VM?
Well separation of states and state flow for one
one of the things that xen does also help is running WINE so much better. You might get some incompatibility problems but generally it's much better.
Also, combined with other code like emulators it can even go further than just virtualizing x86 software.
Why does everyone insist on making every boneheaded decision by a government department the fault of george bush himself?.
Wow you must be really putting a lot of stock in his abilities to put his nose in every pie like that, so really what you're doing is saying how intelligent he is. He has to be if he can run everything!
Can someone tell me honestly what's wrong here? Intel are the ones who have control over their product. They get to sell their products and define how much it sells for. Why are governments getting involved?
Obviously if a company is buying more of a competitor's products then they're buying less of yours, so your own are more expensive to them because they are buying in lower quantities. that is simple grade school economics.
Having governments butt their noses in like this only forces lowest commen denominators to win and means someone could come along and sell a piece of cheese as a CPU and anyone who tries to sell a real CPU could get labelled a monopoly.
This is an option for some people but not others. In the late 1980s I used a device with a thumbwheel much the same and man a scroll thumbwheel after 5 minutes is hell on tendons more so than any other mouse I used.
But I can use a normal mouse all day long and not have a problem and have been doing so for years now.
So your mileage may vary.
> Don't bother giving my what ever phony story you have. I've
> heard them all and I've seen the real data.
perfect mach of a closed mind.
It's still debatable whether or not global warming can even happen with the amount of gas we are putting into the air.
And so how would you expect that to make any difference on mars? You would be have to be sure of the results to start. Until we know we are global warming here I say we hold off and not try experiments over a whole planet.
That's nothing, Apple managed put a G4 mac into a Sonos case!!!
If they don't "understand" something they shouldnt "use" it. would you give your 3 year old your net banking details to use them?? NO!
> I'm surprised to hear that Microsoft's refusal to adopt
> international standards in their browser actually thwarts a
> potential phishing attack rather than aiding it.
The thing is this is another carry on effect where MS refusal to follow standards only hurts others. Now when a phish attack that can take advantage of this problem appears it will be designed to hit other browsers say firefox on linux or opera or konqueror. So because it only breaks on these browsers it will mean any attacks on them will be tailor made for their kinds of users, which is linux users.
So when a phish attack comes along attacking linux users it might phish for cvs passwords and other open source type things instead of just banking details. I consider this a big risk to some open source projects. I wonder what browser Linus uses??
If MS had followed standards they could not allow phishers to attack just a specific group like this, and phishers would have to act blindly like they are now only looking for generic things that affect most of the population.
> I wonder if there's a quick and easy fix for this for Safari users
Look at the source, its obvious there
You can't blame the browser when people refuse to use features that can protect them.
Another thing as well, this can't really be counted as a Linux vulnerability, if you look at the source code either in an email message or in the browser, it's clear as day that it's not going to the real paypal.com
This is just more FUD people
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They say "the price of freedom is eternal vigilance" and it looks like that is how europe is having to work to defeat patents.
You know well they will try again to introduce patents again and again but keep being vigilant and we will keep winning. thank you poland!!
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I got those numbers wrong. I meant when in the article he says Windows boxes cost up to $230 LESS with dell and 100 to 150 LESS with HP then over 99 computers that is a saving of $14,850 to $22,770.
so twenty two thousand dollars saved by going with linux.
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> It takes time and effort to create an install and then mirror it
> to a hundred systems. The business pays for that time and
> effort. Even if it's an in house tech doing the job, at the very
> least his salary for the time spent doing the install should be
> factored into the cost.
Well then you can buy 99 Windows PC's for $400 and one Linux PC in the same configuration and mirror the linux PC configuration and put it on all the Windows PCs then. So then you save $99 times $20 or $1980 doing this. And you didn't have to spend on creating an install!. And when in the article he says Windows boxes cost up to $230 LESS with dell and 100 to 150 LESS with HP then over 99 computers that is a saving of $1450 to $2270.
That is latteral thinking!
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> He's talking about corporate purchases; where the company
> buys off the shelf, simply re-buying "their standard
> configuration" each time another cubicle needs filling. These
> kinds of customers don't build their PC from bits, you fool!
> Get a brain before using your keyboard, FFS.
Well sorry you are an irrelevant answer. You corporate buy a few dells in the standard configuration with windows or with linux whichever is cheaper and then put the linux mirror back on it. total time spent like minutes? And you don't have to pay to be locked into MS again! So your benefitting twice.
So either way if windows is cheaper then linux is the same price
And if linux is cheaper then windows is more expensive.
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This guy is trying to make a fair TCO analysis of Linux Vs. WIndows and part 1 doesn't look good for Linux. Now it is time for slashdotters to say that businesses should Install all their systems from scratch or Buy the Walmart systems.
Well it might not look good to start when you can buy a windows dell for $400 but the same Linux dell costs $420
But DUH you can buy the Windows dell for $400 and install linux FOR FREE ON IT
Even then if you needed to deploy a hundred of them through all a company then you can make one main install of linux and mirror it everywhere.
So Linux actually can never be more expensive than windows even if windows is the 'cheapest' to buy from the store.
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Well he ignores one fact here by only comparing buying windows with IBM DELL or HP and finding sometimes machines with windows are cheaper through them than with linux, they are in Microsoft's pocket!
he completely ignores when you can order your computer piece by piece and put it together not only cheaper for the hardware but there's no price fixing with windows included. in fact the price of a computer with no operating system like this is the same as one with linux!
So he purposely misstates any facts and says that windows is cheaper because some pricey manufacturers choose to sell windows for less than linux installed machines. This is silly too because you can just buy the chjeaper windows default install and put linux on it with a burned CD you downloaded for no cost. And then throw away the Windows CD!
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One thing should be noted, is, OSX aqua quartz isn't vector based it is still bitmapped, as many people are under the apprehension that it is all vector when it is just good bitmaps.
it is live compositing like postscript on screen but it is not yet vector.
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> Also, there are lots of TV shows that are only shown on
> premium channels, like stuff from HBO or Showtime, that gets
> pirated along with all the other "free" TV.
And since then regardless of being paid television or free to air, it is not being shown near me. So the producers are losing what, nothing at all? Not like I am going to pay for it anyway because that is impossible.
Since they make it impossible for me to pay for it then I do have the right to get it for free, no ifs no buts about it.
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> It's fucking illegal, people. Who cares how this illegal piracy
> "community" is affected
Well if you think about it you'll see there are many television shows that aren't shown in my country so I want to watch them. Also, many movies shown overseas that are not released in my country immediately
Are you saying I do not have a right to watch these? or follow them with my friends who might get them first? I will have to wait and wait months maybe a year to see them, by the time spoilers are posted everywhere? It should be illegal that they are forcing us to pirate (no I won't say theft!) these videos just to keep up with what other people are able to see. The internet is the great equalizer.
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Here it reported my PC's HP printer drivers as p2p software.
Go MPAA, I maybe I could print out a flickbook with every frame from LOTR and give it away to friends.
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