Or its like video stores needing a signed parental approval to rent R rated videos to kids you come in with their parents account. Or requiring similar things from the movie theaters. Or any of the legislation around the V chip in TV's. When entertainment providers (and thats largely what these are) are required to take some reasonable steps to protect its customers from unwanted sites it actually frees them of liability. A clearly spelled out liability is far better than the current undefined state that ISP's are in. This will actually close a great deal of law suit possibilities.
With Microsoft Exchange becoming less favored in many corporate datacenters, and the threat of open source PIMs coming to Windows, like Evolution or Chandler, this change has the appearance of Microsoft making an effort to convince people to use servers they control to store PIM data and messages.
What color is the sky in your world? MS Exchange is growing in popularity and has no serious competition. Notes and Groupwise have been trying to steal marketshare but have not been making serious sucess. Certainly no Open Source PIM is even close to giving it a serious run for its money.
Don't get me wrong, I do not like MS or Exchange but they do have a very impressive feature set for a business group and very few solutions can challenge them. This is the big missing peice of the open source puzzle for business.
Heck, how hard would it be for malware to add a certificate authority?
Much harder than simply using malware to install a key logger and getting data that way. But now you are talking about exploiting the local OS through user carelessness and have bypassed the subject of a rouge wireless access point and the related subject of end to end SSL security. You are now saying can I hack the persons box and install malware to get data, which is way off topic since it no longer has any bearing wether they are using wireless or not. Read squiggleslash's comments they are some good explainations of how it works and very precise.
This is kind of like supporting free speech for people who agree with you.
The whole point of Open Source is that the code is free and not dominated by any political or marketing strategy to support only one vendor/platform. Microsoft has done some great things and this program is a direct clone of one of its popular products that Linux users aspire to imitate. Lets get off the righteous bandwagon of Windows users aren't cool enough to use our cloned applications. If Windows can run all the same apps as Linux with as enjoyable a user experience then maybe it is the equal of Linux. Lets port the apps both directions and let Windows and Linux stand on their merits. Have some faith in the penguin.
Information wants to be free, anthropomorphized and cross platform. Choice is always good.
I think Wikipedia is a great source of information and is largely acurate but I have also ran into the problem articles that are way off. Or the facts that just simply turn out to be made up. But there has to ba an answer to fix it.
Why can't we use a little less anonimity in the articles. Allow senior users to watch over or sponsor certain articles and keep them in line. Publish these users names on the article page and provide some sort of accuracy rating for users that can be made by their peers. There will always be inaccuracy but this would allow you to judge the trustworthyness of each article based on the rating of its sponsor and contributers.
Actually there are more like 10,000 years of recorded human history going back to the ancient cities of Elam, Ur and Akkad in Mesopotamia. Not to mention that our species appears to have about 1.5 Milion years on this planet in less developed forms, these statistics do seem a bit off.
jail should be for murderers, rapers, corrupted politicians, etc.
Of course it is. That's what make it a fun to send a spammer in there with them and see how long he lasts. This should be the most fun since the Romans fed Christians to lions.
Goodness man! Without IP law we could be as uncreative as they were just after the dark ages. That would be like putting us back to the Renaissance! Who would want that.
Sure it has its flaws, but it's certainly better than nothing at all.
As a father I share your feelings but this idea is incorrect. If students trust this system to identify others as also being kids their own age it can reenforce the pedophile scam and make it more believable. This can have the opposite effect as what they are trying to do. Then young Tommy thinks "Wow! this really is a 16 yr old girl from the next county who thinks my pic is hot and wants to meet me for some heavy snogging. She says her dad can pick me up after school to go on a date with her!"
On the other hand, if students do not trust the system what does it solve?
Ultimately either kids will need to be wiser (something that by definition is not possible) or a system needs to be reasonablly effective at protecting them.
While I think the idea is seriusly flawed, I believe the main idea here is not really to prove the kids ID but to keep predators from posing as kids. Let's face it there are lots of sexual predators, more than 90% of them are male and online they pose as all sorts of things they aren't. Many with a hankering for young men will pose as "Hi! I'm Tammy. I'm 14! Want to dance naked in front of your web cam for me." I don't think it will be hard to get these keys on ebay, but adding gender does make it even harder for predators to pretend to be who they want. And lets face it everything that a 16-22 yr old does is ultimately hoping to end in sex. Still the biggest flaw is not just selling these keys, its that no one will use them or care.
Arthur: The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest sunlight . ..
And these people want to give us advise on how to run an election?! Strange women lying in lakes is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives it authority from a mandate of the masses not from some farsical aquatic ceremony! Help! Help! I'm being repressed!
You are very uninformed. East has often been used as the top of the map becasue it was the sacred direction from which the sun would rise. You may have heard of "the orient" it means the east and people would orient a map. It is of no small significance to europeans that Jerusalem was there.This goes back through many cultures.
North was also a common choice since the north star was a major navigational point and the only still part in the heavens. In many esoteric understandings the north star was the peak of the cosmic mountain where the Gods dwell. Refer to Isaiah's refereces to "Har Tzafon" or the mountain of the north. Since about 3/4 of the dry land on earth is north of the equator, particularly those areas that developed advanced cultures early, this was also a common model in many cultures.
In every ancient culture maps were designed around spiritual, navigational and astronomical conciderations not on lighting.
As much as slashdotters like to dismiss religon they should really learn to recognize its place in developing almost every aspect of our culture rather than thinking that people of the ancient world centered their lives on which way the light would look best.
Perhaps it is merely a matter of us not doing them well yet.
I think the Civilization series is quite good as well as many of the SimCity style games. These games do not cover a topic in depth but they are good for getting kids to think in serious terms about the complexities of running a society or a city. It introduces important concepts and backs them with game play. Despotism is very good for military power but people get unhappy easy and economy and science suck, etc.
Many of the new games also have a history theme around WWII or the Civil War. While these games don't exactly cover the details or the sociopolitical causes, they familiarize the kids with the names of the generals and battles in very concrete way.
As far as the articles statement that we must prove "that games are better than other learning alternatives" I must disagree and say that educational games must be better than PacMan or Halo in educational value because they will be competing with video game time instead of school time. I don't think anyone has suggested that we dedicate time already designated for learning to playing video games, but merely that we capitalize on the time already being spent on video games to bring more value to the kids.
Good point. But I see the difference as the New York Times is putting out addresses of places where you used to be able to get crack. If the address is in the paper I bet there not still selling it there. On the other hand if crack dealers could advertise in the classifieds to peddle their wares, I would bet NYT would be held accountable or at least forced to remove the ads.
I have to agree with the parent. The test of our laws is in what the courts decide, not what threats a lawyer can make.
The system is broken however when it is too expensive and difficult to get the courts to step in and make a ruling allowing the little guy to loose simply on the basis that the big corporate lawer can beat up his low budget/pro bono/fresh out of law school lawyer.
Yes but linking to DeCSS would be contributing to a crime (in the view of the court). They were not told they could not do so because it voliated the IP of others. It would be like prohibiting a site from linking to kiddie porn. It is contributing to people distributing illegal material. I disagree about DeCSS but the legal principle is sound.
This case is about not being able to review _legal_ articles without paying a fee and getting permission. That means thay could silence any nay sayers, and it contradicts previous rulings on fair use.
I thnk pocketpctools has a pretty solid stance. If they cannot give a short quote with a reference then why is it legal for me to do the same in a research paper? How will anyone ever be able to do a book review? This type of useage is what makes research and debate possible. I mean Bush can quote Kerry (and often does) in order to make a logical debate, and he does not need a license from Kerry. This is an example of our failed system, where corporate thugs can make any demand and win because the system is too difficult and costly to use to defend one own legitimate rights.
PS Any one who laughs at Bush being logical should get -1 offtopic. Of course, I should get +5 funny for saying it:)
Prochial might be a bit hard. I am sure he is quite an intellectual. But you are right in that his interests do not represent the full spectrum of what space offers.
I am particularly suspicious of his political criticism of the Bush administration. The timing of this seems like a political gambit more than an honest dialog about space exploration.
Wasn't it more likely that the motivation was hunger, so people followed the food?
AC, this shows such a limited view of history I am amazed that people can think this way. I suppose because your own motivations are centered on doing only what you must to survive, you assume all of mankind has done the same since the dawn of humanity.
What was the motivations of building the Pyramids of Giza? Why did people build boats? Why did they develop writing? Astronomy? While nessessity have been the source of some discovery, curiosity and a desire to do the impossible has been much more of a driving factor in human history.
The first nation to develop a strong and stable, manned presence in space will have a substantial tactical advantage over the rest of the globe.
I am having trouble seeing this one. Satelites and weapons systems provide advantage, but a manned space station?
The orbital area above earth is huge so its not like you control territory.
Manned stations in space are no better at reconnosence, attack, or defense than unmanned stations unless you accept the strategy of "let's taunt them and perhaps they will get so cross they will make a mistake."
I like the rest of your post but a manned space station is not like a fort on a major river system was in the early 19th century.
Why are we competing with Windows? Windows sucks. Look at Apple. They are interested in being the best, not in getting the biggest share of the market. Linux should be the same. We have this terrible confomist mentality that if 95% of the people don't believe as we do then there is something wrong with us. Linux is great and does not need to try to be Microsoft to get ahead.
Personally I am CLI junkie and don't want a Winodws replacement GUI. Both Gnome and KDE are too bloated. I like Enlightenment and Fluxbox but they have such poor support for decent looking fonts I tend to use Gnome just so things will look a little nicer. So I wind up with a bloated system that I use almost no features of. I really wish we could get Flux and Enlightenment just a little more polished.
If I am missing something about font support in Flux and Enlightenment please feel free to flame me. I honestly haven't spent a lot of time on it.
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Or its like video stores needing a signed parental approval to rent R rated videos to kids you come in with their parents account. Or requiring similar things from the movie theaters. Or any of the legislation around the V chip in TV's. When entertainment providers (and thats largely what these are) are required to take some reasonable steps to protect its customers from unwanted sites it actually frees them of liability. A clearly spelled out liability is far better than the current undefined state that ISP's are in. This will actually close a great deal of law suit possibilities.
With Microsoft Exchange becoming less favored in many corporate datacenters, and the threat of open source PIMs coming to Windows, like Evolution or Chandler, this change has the appearance of Microsoft making an effort to convince people to use servers they control to store PIM data and messages.
What color is the sky in your world? MS Exchange is growing in popularity and has no serious competition. Notes and Groupwise have been trying to steal marketshare but have not been making serious sucess. Certainly no Open Source PIM is even close to giving it a serious run for its money.
Don't get me wrong, I do not like MS or Exchange but they do have a very impressive feature set for a business group and very few solutions can challenge them. This is the big missing peice of the open source puzzle for business.
Heck, how hard would it be for malware to add a certificate authority?
Much harder than simply using malware to install a key logger and getting data that way. But now you are talking about exploiting the local OS through user carelessness and have bypassed the subject of a rouge wireless access point and the related subject of end to end SSL security. You are now saying can I hack the persons box and install malware to get data, which is way off topic since it no longer has any bearing wether they are using wireless or not. Read squiggleslash's comments they are some good explainations of how it works and very precise.
This is kind of like supporting free speech for people who agree with you.
The whole point of Open Source is that the code is free and not dominated by any political or marketing strategy to support only one vendor/platform. Microsoft has done some great things and this program is a direct clone of one of its popular products that Linux users aspire to imitate. Lets get off the righteous bandwagon of Windows users aren't cool enough to use our cloned applications. If Windows can run all the same apps as Linux with as enjoyable a user experience then maybe it is the equal of Linux. Lets port the apps both directions and let Windows and Linux stand on their merits. Have some faith in the penguin.
Information wants to be free, anthropomorphized and cross platform. Choice is always good.
I think Wikipedia is a great source of information and is largely acurate but I have also ran into the problem articles that are way off. Or the facts that just simply turn out to be made up. But there has to ba an answer to fix it.
Why can't we use a little less anonimity in the articles. Allow senior users to watch over or sponsor certain articles and keep them in line. Publish these users names on the article page and provide some sort of accuracy rating for users that can be made by their peers. There will always be inaccuracy but this would allow you to judge the trustworthyness of each article based on the rating of its sponsor and contributers.
Actually there are more like 10,000 years of recorded human history going back to the ancient cities of Elam, Ur and Akkad in Mesopotamia. Not to mention that our species appears to have about 1.5 Milion years on this planet in less developed forms, these statistics do seem a bit off.
jail should be for murderers, rapers, corrupted politicians, etc.
Of course it is. That's what make it a fun to send a spammer in there with them and see how long he lasts. This should be the most fun since the Romans fed Christians to lions.
If you want a more acceptable one (by your terms): Good guys finish last.
:)
How 'bout "God hates you."
I like it as an explanation because it has that whole vindication of the righteous thing going for it
Goodness man! Without IP law we could be as uncreative as they were just after the dark ages. That would be like putting us back to the Renaissance! Who would want that.
Sure it has its flaws, but it's certainly better than nothing at all.
As a father I share your feelings but this idea is incorrect. If students trust this system to identify others as also being kids their own age it can reenforce the pedophile scam and make it more believable. This can have the opposite effect as what they are trying to do. Then young Tommy thinks "Wow! this really is a 16 yr old girl from the next county who thinks my pic is hot and wants to meet me for some heavy snogging. She says her dad can pick me up after school to go on a date with her!"
On the other hand, if students do not trust the system what does it solve?
Ultimately either kids will need to be wiser (something that by definition is not possible) or a system needs to be reasonablly effective at protecting them.
While I think the idea is seriusly flawed, I believe the main idea here is not really to prove the kids ID but to keep predators from posing as kids. Let's face it there are lots of sexual predators, more than 90% of them are male and online they pose as all sorts of things they aren't. Many with a hankering for young men will pose as "Hi! I'm Tammy. I'm 14! Want to dance naked in front of your web cam for me."
I don't think it will be hard to get these keys on ebay, but adding gender does make it even harder for predators to pretend to be who they want. And lets face it everything that a 16-22 yr old does is ultimately hoping to end in sex.
Still the biggest flaw is not just selling these keys, its that no one will use them or care.
Arthur: You don't vote for a king!
.
Peasant: Well how'd you become king then?
Arthur: The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest sunlight . .
And these people want to give us advise on how to run an election?! Strange women lying in lakes is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives it authority from a mandate of the masses not from some farsical aquatic ceremony! Help! Help! I'm being repressed!
You are very uninformed. East has often been used as the top of the map becasue it was the sacred direction from which the sun would rise. You may have heard of "the orient" it means the east and people would orient a map. It is of no small significance to europeans that Jerusalem was there.This goes back through many cultures.
North was also a common choice since the north star was a major navigational point and the only still part in the heavens. In many esoteric understandings the north star was the peak of the cosmic mountain where the Gods dwell. Refer to Isaiah's refereces to "Har Tzafon" or the mountain of the north. Since about 3/4 of the dry land on earth is north of the equator, particularly those areas that developed advanced cultures early, this was also a common model in many cultures.
In every ancient culture maps were designed around spiritual, navigational and astronomical conciderations not on lighting.
As much as slashdotters like to dismiss religon they should really learn to recognize its place in developing almost every aspect of our culture rather than thinking that people of the ancient world centered their lives on which way the light would look best.
Perhaps it is merely a matter of us not doing them well yet.
I think the Civilization series is quite good as well as many of the SimCity style games. These games do not cover a topic in depth but they are good for getting kids to think in serious terms about the complexities of running a society or a city. It introduces important concepts and backs them with game play. Despotism is very good for military power but people get unhappy easy and economy and science suck, etc.
Many of the new games also have a history theme around WWII or the Civil War. While these games don't exactly cover the details or the sociopolitical causes, they familiarize the kids with the names of the generals and battles in very concrete way.
As far as the articles statement that we must prove "that games are better than other learning alternatives" I must disagree and say that educational games must be better than PacMan or Halo in educational value because they will be competing with video game time instead of school time. I don't think anyone has suggested that we dedicate time already designated for learning to playing video games, but merely that we capitalize on the time already being spent on video games to bring more value to the kids.
Good point. But I see the difference as the New York Times is putting out addresses of places where you used to be able to get crack. If the address is in the paper I bet there not still selling it there. On the other hand if crack dealers could advertise in the classifieds to peddle their wares, I would bet NYT would be held accountable or at least forced to remove the ads.
I have to agree with the parent. The test of our laws is in what the courts decide, not what threats a lawyer can make.
The system is broken however when it is too expensive and difficult to get the courts to step in and make a ruling allowing the little guy to loose simply on the basis that the big corporate lawer can beat up his low budget/pro bono/fresh out of law school lawyer.
Yes but linking to DeCSS would be contributing to a crime (in the view of the court). They were not told they could not do so because it voliated the IP of others. It would be like prohibiting a site from linking to kiddie porn. It is contributing to people distributing illegal material. I disagree about DeCSS but the legal principle is sound.
This case is about not being able to review _legal_ articles without paying a fee and getting permission. That means thay could silence any nay sayers, and it contradicts previous rulings on fair use.
I thnk pocketpctools has a pretty solid stance. If they cannot give a short quote with a reference then why is it legal for me to do the same in a research paper? How will anyone ever be able to do a book review? This type of useage is what makes research and debate possible. I mean Bush can quote Kerry (and often does) in order to make a logical debate, and he does not need a license from Kerry. This is an example of our failed system, where corporate thugs can make any demand and win because the system is too difficult and costly to use to defend one own legitimate rights.
:)
PS Any one who laughs at Bush being logical should get -1 offtopic. Of course, I should get +5 funny for saying it
Prochial might be a bit hard. I am sure he is quite an intellectual. But you are right in that his interests do not represent the full spectrum of what space offers.
I am particularly suspicious of his political criticism of the Bush administration. The timing of this seems like a political gambit more than an honest dialog about space exploration.
Wasn't it more likely that the motivation was hunger, so people followed the food?
AC, this shows such a limited view of history I am amazed that people can think this way. I suppose because your own motivations are centered on doing only what you must to survive, you assume all of mankind has done the same since the dawn of humanity.
What was the motivations of building the Pyramids of Giza? Why did people build boats? Why did they develop writing? Astronomy? While nessessity have been the source of some discovery, curiosity and a desire to do the impossible has been much more of a driving factor in human history.
The first nation to develop a strong and stable, manned presence in space will have a substantial tactical advantage over the rest of the globe.
I am having trouble seeing this one. Satelites and weapons systems provide advantage, but a manned space station?
The orbital area above earth is huge so its not like you control territory.
Manned stations in space are no better at reconnosence, attack, or defense than unmanned stations unless you accept the strategy of "let's taunt them and perhaps they will get so cross they will make a mistake."
I like the rest of your post but a manned space station is not like a fort on a major river system was in the early 19th century.
Why are we competing with Windows? Windows sucks. Look at Apple. They are interested in being the best, not in getting the biggest share of the market. Linux should be the same. We have this terrible confomist mentality that if 95% of the people don't believe as we do then there is something wrong with us. Linux is great and does not need to try to be Microsoft to get ahead.
Choice is a _good_ thing.
Personally I am CLI junkie and don't want a Winodws replacement GUI. Both Gnome and KDE are too bloated. I like Enlightenment and Fluxbox but they have such poor support for decent looking fonts I tend to use Gnome just so things will look a little nicer. So I wind up with a bloated system that I use almost no features of. I really wish we could get Flux and Enlightenment just a little more polished.
If I am missing something about font support in Flux and Enlightenment please feel free to flame me. I honestly haven't spent a lot of time on it.
I agee! "GoneMe" how are you supposed to even say that without sounding stupid. Why not stay with the same basic theme and use "Troll"?
I vote against Hatch every year.
You really need to learn how to use the ballet then. He's a senator. Check your constitution for what this means..
he's part of the local political system
Technically he's part of the Federal system
and the LDS Church loves him
That's way over generalized since most of his opponents have also been LDS.