It is unfortunate that you got treated like that. However, without access to your system, it's unlikely anyone could just fix it.
Like any production service, upgrades like that should be tested in a lab environment before being rolled live. It's not like commercial upgrades never break systems. You rolled the dice and got unlucky. At that point, undoubtedly, you're in an emergency situation and no level of free support is going to fix your problem fast enough to suit.
Configuring Apache - a server-side daemon - has nothing to do with a GUI or a mouse. It has to do with editing a few text configuration files. Anyone who actually knows Apache will do that with a text editor. They are the people you want help from. They won't know how to use whatever widget your distro puts in between you and editing that file.
I happen to agree that the multitude of distros and their differing ways of managing the system makes it exceedingly unlikely that any company will ever offer effective end-user tech support for Linux, but that has nothing to do with Apache.
End users should never, ever have to do a configure, make, make install on any modern distro. That's why there are package managers, and that's why there are end-user friendly distributions like Ubuntu with a friendly point-and-click interface to the package manager.
Telling a user anything about configure, make, make install is telling them to make their system unmaintainable and eventually unusable.
I remember recalling a story out of General Motors about 6 months or a year ago saying that they estimated that not having to contribute to medical insurance for their employees in Canada saves them something like $800 per vehicle.
Sure, even unions haven't figured out a way to make GM pay their personal income taxes for them.
So, do you feel like you're justified in trading 10mpg for "nicer," or do you wonder if you're committed to the environment?
I'm not a real big environmentalist, I'm just practical. The Sprint was my first car ever, and I bought it because it was cheap. I bought the TDI when I last needed a newer car, because I need to do a fair amount of highway driving and it was the most fuel efficient vehicle I could buy that wasn't a hybrid (which are, IMO, overrated). I don't have kids, so a sedan is as big a vehicle as I ever need.
I do believe in peak oil, and I think that $5/litre gas isn't far around the corner, so it's also just preparing for the inevitable.
Technically, without fully signed messages, theres no way a business can determine if YOU signed up for a mailing list or if somebody else did it for you. There is no way round this with current practices.
Confirmed opt-in is the industry standard. Send one message with a cryptographically strong token that must be clicked on or returned to confirm that the addressee wants to be on the list. If you don't get confirmation, you never email that address again. It's been available forever and works fine. "Marketers" may not like it, because it doesn't integrate with their CRM crap spamming software, but it has to be done.
really am frustrated that we've allowed the Feds this power -- there really is no Constitutional or reasonable allowance for letting them disturb trade. The "secrets" everyone is so adamant in protecting are already all over the world, almost nothing is secret anymore.
If the US government obeyed its constitution and the intentions of the framers, there wouldn't be a DoD or an FBI at all, so it wouldn't be a problem. There wouldn't be "Feds".
You live in a country that takes over 35% of GDP in taxes and supports a massive government that intrudes in all aspects of your life and the lives of people around the world. Stop worrying about little things like the Constitution. Congress hasn't for at least 145 years.
The only thing my Windows partition is used for is playing games, and that has been true for at leat 5 years. My work system doesn't even have Windows partition. So go troll somewhere else.
I tried to call the police on something other than a 911 line. I got told by a voicemail system to "call back during business hours". I could not get a human on the line.
I was trying to report some asshat who just tried to sell me a home theatre system, from the side of a van, while stuck in rush-hour traffic. It's not exactly an emergency, but it is time-sensitive. So I didn't call and the thief is undoubtedly still out there ripping people off.
My (high school) class time goes from 8:30 to 3:15
My work time goes from 7:30 to 4:30, sometimes later (like tonight at 6 still waiting for a script to finish so I can see if it works). Add 2+ hours commuting, house work, walking the dog, doing laundry, shopping for groceries, teaching classes 2 nights a week and some Saturday mornings, and I may have 8 hours a week for gaming. Assuming my wife doesn't kill me first.
You have no idea how easy you have it in high school. And I don't even have kids.
Postgres has archive logging, replication, and you can buy support. Recovery can be a problem, but the only time it matters is if your disk hardware dies or is flakey. PITR makes recovering from virtually any disaster just a matter of restore/replay time.
Replication is limited to master/slave async, for now, as far as I know.
We also have a Senate, which actually has some power, and performs roughly the same role as the House of Lords, which would be a better comparison if you actually knew anything about how our government works and had RTFA.
People using CentOS may, undermine some of RedHat's business. However, they also help maintain a vibrant RedHat-based server ecosystem that encourages third-party packagers (like Dag, etc.) to support RHEL distributions, indirectly making RHEL much more usable.
Most people who use CentOS _like_ RedHat, they just don't want to pay RedHat for support they will never need. If they didn't have something like CentOS, they'd probably use Debian or some other free distro. They almost certainly would not pay RedHat support fees in any case.
Personally, I have CentOS installed on 28 servers, currently. I recommend to consulting clients who can afford it to buy RHEL subscriptions, and some of them do. I value the work RedHat puts into the stability of their distro, especially the kernel and compiler chain. However, I don't think using CentOS undermines RedHat any more than using Fedora Core does; you just get a more stable server environment that you don't have to upgrade every 6 months. If RedHat didn't want projects like CentOS to exist, they wouldn't give away SRPM's. Doing so makes them even better guys in my book.
The ice on Antarctica is an average 2 km deep and covers an area bigger than the US and Mexico combined, totalling something like 30 million cubic km of ice. When it melts, the ocean levels will rise. A lot. Like 60 metres, world-wide.
Actually, in this case, you're really only paying for support. If you wanted a copy of RHEL, IIRC you can get the binaries from RH free of charge. However, there is a disclaimer saying that you gree to expect no support from RH should something go wrong.
Actually, you can't. Redhat does generously provide all their source RPM's for free, however.
Mainly they used superior weaponry and military tactics, and I think we're pretty covered there.
So were the Romans. However, it got to the point where something like 3000 people owned essentially all of the land in the Western Empire. It became very hard to convince Romans to actually fight to defend themselves. After all, who really cares to fight solely for the benefit of a bunch of rich people? So the rich people started to hire these nice German fellows to fight for them instead. It didn't really work out.
No, because they refuse to steal money from Peter to pay Paul. You don't get Paul to vote for you that way. And everyone seems to think that they either are, or should be, Paul, even when 30% of their paycheck is getting stolen.
The Republicans were originally a third party. You just need an issue important enough to get people to vote, but scary enough that the major parties won't touch it.
>If North America or Europe would have done the same, about 2-3 billion people would live in >Europe and we would see the same famine there.
North America and Europe both did the same, they just did it over a slightly longer time period. They also did it under political and economic systems that created enormous amounts of wealth in the process, rather than millions of starving villagers.
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It is unfortunate that you got treated like that. However, without access to your system, it's unlikely anyone could just fix it.
Like any production service, upgrades like that should be tested in a lab environment before being rolled live. It's not like commercial upgrades never break systems. You rolled the dice and got unlucky. At that point, undoubtedly, you're in an emergency situation and no level of free support is going to fix your problem fast enough to suit.
Configuring Apache - a server-side daemon - has nothing to do with a GUI or a mouse. It has to do with editing a few text configuration files. Anyone who actually knows Apache will do that with a text editor. They are the people you want help from. They won't know how to use whatever widget your distro puts in between you and editing that file.
I happen to agree that the multitude of distros and their differing ways of managing the system makes it exceedingly unlikely that any company will ever offer effective end-user tech support for Linux, but that has nothing to do with Apache.
End users should never, ever have to do a configure, make, make install on any modern distro. That's why there are package managers, and that's why there are end-user friendly distributions like Ubuntu with a friendly point-and-click interface to the package manager.
Telling a user anything about configure, make, make install is telling them to make their system unmaintainable and eventually unusable.
Actually, if you had read TFA, you would have noticed he's using lighttpd, not Apache.
I remember recalling a story out of General Motors about 6 months or a year ago saying that they estimated that not having to contribute to medical insurance for their employees in Canada saves them something like $800 per vehicle.
Sure, even unions haven't figured out a way to make GM pay their personal income taxes for them.
So, do you feel like you're justified in trading 10mpg for "nicer," or do you wonder if you're committed to the environment?
I'm not a real big environmentalist, I'm just practical. The Sprint was my first car ever, and I bought it because it was cheap. I bought the TDI when I last needed a newer car, because I need to do a fair amount of highway driving and it was the most fuel efficient vehicle I could buy that wasn't a hybrid (which are, IMO, overrated). I don't have kids, so a sedan is as big a vehicle as I ever need.
I do believe in peak oil, and I think that $5/litre gas isn't far around the corner, so it's also just preparing for the inevitable.
They have been known to get the local Sheriffs to come in and seize all the computers for an involuntary "audit".
I doubt they get away with that in most locales.
What kind of car would that be exactly? If I could find one of those I would certainly be inclined to make the switch.
Has to be a Chevy Sprint, which became the Geo Metro. My Sprint got well over 60 mpg in 1988.
OTOH, my Jetta TDI gets about 50 now, and it's a much nicer car.
Use of nuclear engines should be a lot more palatable on the Moon, too.
Technically, without fully signed messages, theres no way a business can determine if YOU signed up for a mailing list or if somebody else did it for you.
There is no way round this with current practices.
Confirmed opt-in is the industry standard. Send one message with a cryptographically strong token that must be clicked on or returned to confirm that the addressee wants to be on the list. If you don't get confirmation, you never email that address again. It's been available forever and works fine. "Marketers" may not like it, because it doesn't integrate with their CRM crap spamming software, but it has to be done.
really am frustrated that we've allowed the Feds this power -- there really is no Constitutional or reasonable allowance for letting them disturb trade. The "secrets" everyone is so adamant in protecting are already all over the world, almost nothing is secret anymore.
If the US government obeyed its constitution and the intentions of the framers, there wouldn't be a DoD or an FBI at all, so it wouldn't be a problem. There wouldn't be "Feds".
You live in a country that takes over 35% of GDP in taxes and supports a massive government that intrudes in all aspects of your life and the lives of people around the world. Stop worrying about little things like the Constitution. Congress hasn't for at least 145 years.
The only thing my Windows partition is used for is playing games, and that has been true for at leat 5 years. My work system doesn't even have Windows partition. So go troll somewhere else.
I tried to call the police on something other than a 911 line. I got told by a voicemail system to "call back during business hours". I could not get a human on the line.
I was trying to report some asshat who just tried to sell me a home theatre system, from the side of a van, while stuck in rush-hour traffic. It's not exactly an emergency, but it is time-sensitive. So I didn't call and the thief is undoubtedly still out there ripping people off.
My (high school) class time goes from 8:30 to 3:15
My work time goes from 7:30 to 4:30, sometimes later (like tonight at 6 still waiting for a script to finish so I can see if it works). Add 2+ hours commuting, house work, walking the dog, doing laundry, shopping for groceries, teaching classes 2 nights a week and some Saturday mornings, and I may have 8 hours a week for gaming. Assuming my wife doesn't kill me first.
You have no idea how easy you have it in high school. And I don't even have kids.
Oracle - proven recovery tools, support, rollbacks, archive logging, replication
Postgres has archive logging, replication, and you can buy support. Recovery can be a problem, but the only time it matters is if your disk hardware dies or is flakey. PITR makes recovering from virtually any disaster just a matter of restore/replay time.
Replication is limited to master/slave async, for now, as far as I know.
We also have a Senate, which actually has some power, and performs roughly the same role as the House of Lords, which would be a better comparison if you actually knew anything about how our government works and had RTFA.
People using CentOS may, undermine some of RedHat's business. However, they also help maintain a vibrant RedHat-based server ecosystem that encourages third-party packagers (like Dag, etc.) to support RHEL distributions, indirectly making RHEL much more usable.
Most people who use CentOS _like_ RedHat, they just don't want to pay RedHat for support they will never need. If they didn't have something like CentOS, they'd probably use Debian or some other free distro. They almost certainly would not pay RedHat support fees in any case.
Personally, I have CentOS installed on 28 servers, currently. I recommend to consulting clients who can afford it to buy RHEL subscriptions, and some of them do. I value the work RedHat puts into the stability of their distro, especially the kernel and compiler chain. However, I don't think using CentOS undermines RedHat any more than using Fedora Core does; you just get a more stable server environment that you don't have to upgrade every 6 months. If RedHat didn't want projects like CentOS to exist, they wouldn't give away SRPM's. Doing so makes them even better guys in my book.
The ice on Antarctica is an average 2 km deep and covers an area bigger than the US and Mexico combined, totalling something like 30 million cubic km of ice. When it melts, the ocean levels will rise. A lot. Like 60 metres, world-wide.
Actually, in this case, you're really only paying for support. If you wanted a copy of RHEL, IIRC you can get the binaries from RH free of charge. However, there is a disclaimer saying that you gree to expect no support from RH should something go wrong.
Actually, you can't. Redhat does generously provide all their source RPM's for free, however.
what would a windows machine do that would be unused for 5 years
Send out a LOT of spam.
You give no reasons as to why it's "unfortunate"
I'll give you one. If it keeps growing, I may eventually have to work on the piece of crap again in order to find work.
Mainly they used superior weaponry and military tactics, and I think we're pretty covered there.
So were the Romans. However, it got to the point where something like 3000 people owned essentially all of the land in the Western Empire. It became very hard to convince Romans to actually fight to defend themselves. After all, who really cares to fight solely for the benefit of a bunch of rich people? So the rich people started to hire these nice German fellows to fight for them instead. It didn't really work out.
No, because they refuse to steal money from Peter to pay Paul. You don't get Paul to vote for you that way. And everyone seems to think that they either are, or should be, Paul, even when 30% of their paycheck is getting stolen.
The Republicans were originally a third party. You just need an issue important enough to get people to vote, but scary enough that the major parties won't touch it.
>If North America or Europe would have done the same, about 2-3 billion people would live in
>Europe and we would see the same famine there.
North America and Europe both did the same, they just did it over a slightly longer time period. They also did it under political and economic systems that created enormous amounts of wealth in the process, rather than millions of starving villagers.